Morning Buzz: Off the Stanchion Part II; more NHL to Seattle talk; Scott Gomez hits a milestone
by Jordan Clarke on Feb 6, 2012 8:00 AM PST
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Here's a crazy theory: is the listless play we've been seeing from the Canucks lately a sign of a lack of motivation? The club sits 11 points clear of the second place team in their Division. Barring a disaster, they have home ice advantage in the bag for the playoffs. Or is it just a matter of this team finding ways to make things hard for themselves? Earlier in the year, the team couldn't buy a save, but on Saturday Luongo stopped 44 of 46, and now the skaters are in disarray. The special teams and even strength play have alternated dominance throughout the season, but now with mostly everyone healthy, both have fallen flat. In pro sports, I guess nothing is that simple.
News and notes from a sunny February weekend following the jump!
Vancouver Canucks News & Notes
We start with a milestone: The Stanchion celebrating his 2nd career point as a Canuck, going 59 games in between assists:
Some good post-game stuff from Saturday: The Game According to Twitter, three quick notes, and The Rock's reaction to The Stanchion's clutch assist.
It sounds like David Booth played through a pretty tough neck injury against the Avs. [Vancouver Sun]
As is being noted more and more, the Canucks have been collecting some ugly points lately. [Vancouver Sun]
In fact, the late-game heroics we've been seeing — especially Saturday's off-the-stanchion game tier by Kevin Bieksa — are starting to approach those of Tim Tebow on the miracle scale. As usual, it's all Kesler's fault. [PITB]
Byron Bitz played his first game with the big club on Saturday, notching a big hit and a good scrap. It was a promising showing in what's been a tough year for Bitz. [The White Towel]
What do you mean, Bitz has bite? Johnny? [The Province]
Marda Miller's latest "The Good, The Bad, and The..." [Canucks Army]
Kevin Bieksa's middle name has been changed to "Francesco" on his Wikipedia page. Good work by all involved to make this happen. [Fort Nucks]
Today in Canucks History
[Feb 6, 2004] Longtime Canucks employee Norm Jewison is named the 2004 NHL Alumni 7th Man. The 7th Man Award is awarded annually to a member of the NHL family who has contributed behind the scenes for a significant period of time. In Norm's case, he began working for the Vancouver Canucks prior to the 1977-78 season. He was formally presented his award at the NHL Alumni All-Star Awards Dinner in Minneapolis, Minnesota.
[Feb 6, 2006] Henrik Sedin is named the NHL's Offensive Player of the Week for the second period ending Sunday, February 5, 2006. He recorded 7 points (2-5-7) in three games played.
NHL News & Notes
Sam Gagner's incredible story continued Saturday night, as he was in on three straight Oiler goals in the first period. Gagner's mark of being in on 11 straight goals actually broke Wayne Gretzky's record of 10. [PHT]
Elliotte Friedman mentioned in between periods that the longest streak of a player being in on his team's goals is 15, set by Jaromir Jagr in 1997. The most points in back-to-back games belong to the Stastny brothers, who I believe Friedman said had 14. Gagner didn't break either of those, but he was a part of the play on Jordan Eberle's tying goal in the 3rd.
Is an NHL team in Seattle still a viable option? Sounds like it. [Seattle Times] The Sedins even get a mention in the article:
Most important, imagine parents and children having the same opportunities my father had when he took me to my first NBA game; having the chance to take their kids to Sodo to see Blake Griffin and Derrick Rose, or the NHL's Sedin twins and Marian Gaborik.
Scott Gomez has now officially gone more than one calendar year without scoring an NHL goal, while making over $7M in salary. As Harrison Mooney explains, he almost fell shy of the milestone. [Puck Daddy]
Of course, there is also a Facebook page dedicated to Gomez's goal futility. If you're having trouble keeping track of Gomez's (lack of) progress, there's always this awesome page, too.
Two years ago yesterday, the hockey world lost its first openly gay player, when Brendan Burke passed away following a terrible car accident. MLHS takes a look at the impact both Brendan's coming out and his passing have had on the hockey world. [Maple Leafs Hot Stove]
Watch as a KHL goalie gets scored on from the faceoff dot...at the opposite end of the rink. [Puck Daddy]
Today in NHL History
[Feb 6, 1986] New Jersey Devil Peter McNab becomes the 42nd NHLer to score 350 goals.
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if he makes it up the list to us
he would have to get through about 26-28 teams first!
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Yes
lower seeded teams get first dibs
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notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
It's Monday
and Boston fans must have a miserable morning, following their team losing the Superbowl. For the Canucks fans, this must be a good morning then. :=)
Los Angeles, CA
I'm listening to Avenue Q's "Schadenfreude"
and smiling.
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notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
not a huge fan of Broadway, or plays in general...
…but Avenue Q was right up my alley!
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NHL in Seattle
Obviously I would love to see it! I’m sure it would be a better hockey market than 5-10 that currently exist.
Obviously my first choice would be in Canada (I truly believe that Hamilton, Quebec City, Saskatchewan and Halifax could all support NHL teams), but Seattle would be my number one American destination.
Considering that Quebec City is the only Canadian market with a chance at the Coyotes, I might even choose Seattle over them…I mean look at what’s going on in Montreal right now. Hockey is an international cosmopolitan game. There’s no room for language Nazi’s. If you don’t like it, we don’t need you.
However, should the Coyotes end up in Quebec, don’t be surprised to see the Chicago Wolves relocated to Seattle. the Wolves owner is from there and expressed interest in getting an arena built. He also saw how True North managed an excellent AHL Franchise, paving the way to NHL relocation. If Seattle doesn’t get a team at first shot, they may go after the AHL!
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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Feb 6, 2012 11:01 AM PST reply actions
Wait...
saskatchewan? The whole province has less people than Edmonton…one of the smallest markets there is. And halifax is even smaller.
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I would put Milwaukee as the top American destination
But that’s just me. Fewer people, but much more of a hockey culture AND an NHL-ready arena. You could move the Admirals to Seattle maybe. The name already fits!
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by kentcheesehead on Feb 6, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
re the Wolves:
I want them to move to Abbotsford.
Hodgson on Hansen--
"I've never played with a guy who creates so many offensive turnovers.
I really enjoy playing with him."
agree
gotta kill the bucks first, though.
by Passive Voice on Feb 6, 2012 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
While I would absolutely love it if Seattle got an NHL team...
I’m not quite sure it would be so successful. It wouldn’t see the ready adoption that the Sounders got in MLS. THe reason people adopted the Sounders so quickly was because of the void the NBA left, and MLS has filled it. And then some.
With 17 home games (plus 3-6 club competition games & friendlies), Seahawks Stadium fills up to at least 25-30k for all games. (Officially, 2011 average was 38,496). Thats double what an NHL team in Seattle could get with sellouts every night. Seattle could realistically average MTS-Centre sized Winnipeg in attendance every night (15,004). Its a little disappointing that 15k a night is considered a mild success.
Seattle obviously has the corporate cash needed to support an NHL team, I just don’t know about the ability for this market to also successfully hold an NBA team that would also make its way here with a new market. Hell, the news reports focus more on the idea of Sonics 2.0 than Metropolitans 2.0. I don’t think Seattle is a 6-team market. (MLS, NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL, UW Football)
ITs a damned shame that the Canucks have done absolutely nothing to appeal to Seattleites. The arrogance of the organization towards their American neighbor is the most frustrating thing for me. Vancouver doesn’t need the Seattle market, but Vancouver should WANT the Seattle market. The Canucks could dominate the Northwestern US as San Jose and Calgary are at least 700 miles away from both Seattle and Portland. I can hear a Flames game in the South Sound (Olympia) loud and clear, but I can’t pick up 1040 from the tower in Vancouver, even with a ginormous mountain range “in the way”.
The TV coverage is somewhat saved by having CBC on Cable in North and Western Washington and some games on a 3rd-Tier regional sports network. A Seattle NHL team would be as low as 5th on the radio totem pole during the season, even around playoff time
Come March, it’d be 1) Sounders 2) Sonics 2.0 3) Mariners Spring Training 4) Seattle NHL/March Madness
In April 1) Mariners 1a) Sounders 3) Sonics 2.0 4) Seattle NHL
September, October and November would be just brutal.
1) Seahawks 2) Mariners 2a) Sounders 2b) UW Football 5) Seattle NHL
I honestly believe Seattle NHL would be an afterthought for all but one or two months of the season.
The Canucks could arguably be blamed for this. Their (willful) ignorance to hockey in the US Northwest could be viewed as an attempt not to raise competitive interest. Instead of co-opting this market (ESPECIALLY after the Sonics skipped town), they’ve essentially blown it. Hopefully I’m wrong.
For what its worth, I’m partial to the WHL too. Its not unreasonable that a middling NHL team in Seattle would kill the SilverTips, T-Birds AND Winterhawks. The Thunderbirds would be dead for sure (and good riddance to greedy, short-sighted ownership), but the SilverTips and Winterhawks are great, well-run franchises. I’d hate to see them go in exchange for an undersupported franchise.
Although I have NO doubt in my mind Seattle would do better supporting the NHL than LA, Anaheim, Phoenix, Columbus and Miami.
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by The Canuck Fan on Feb 6, 2012 8:12 PM PST up reply actions
well
Quebec City it is then, and another rival for the Habs.
I can’t speak to an arrogance by the Canucks, and it sounds like they are underserved on TV down there, but what can they do to blow that market up apart from TV. They can’t play at the Key instead of their continually oversold bigger arena right?
You don’t get SNET there? I would think they could be talked into getting on a Fox Sports channel down there. I see their stuff up here.
Too bad you can’t get that and TSN, you’d get most games with that and CBC.
Interesting insights though, thanks
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The Canucks don't need to play games here.
They’ve already made it clear that the only way they’ll give up lucrative preseason games at Rogers is if they are the visiting team. So it’d be a matter of appealing to the s—thole Sun Belt teams that draw EVEN LESS during preseason (Phx, Anaheim, Tampa, etc) to play a home game in Seattle/Portland/Everett/Spokane against the Canucks. An annual preseason game in Seattle/Portland/Spokane (pick one) would be amazing. I just want better media coverage.
The Canucks have 27 games on Comcast SportsNet Northwest. CSN-NW is a 3rd-tier channel only available on one of the most expensive cable packages, or the “sports pack”, which just gives you the sports-themed channels (but not NHL Center Ice or anything like that). CSN-NW is not available on any non-Comcast system. Meaning its not available on DirecTV. Its not available on Dish Network. Its not available on the smaller cable distributors (Click! Tacoma, Time Warner, etc.). It has VERY limited distribution. I imagine its about as well distributed as Sportsnet ONE or Sportsnet Vancouver Hockey.
Of the 27 Canucks games ‘available’ in the US
0 in October
2 in November
2 in December
6 in January
9 in February
5 in March
1 in April
How do you blow up this market? You advertise here. You let people know in the newspaper with an ad. “hey, we’re on TV this weekend on CBC, check your local listings”. You get on TEam 1040’s ass to pump a stronger signal or figure out why the FLAMES radio home comes in louder than the Canucks radio home. Promote the Canucks in seattle during the offseason. The Jays get their tires pumped in Vancouver as much as the Mariners do.
Actually, there’s my point right there. What is Mariners coverage like in Vancouver? What is Seahawks coverage like in Vancouver?
An isolated island of blue awash in a region ignored by the Canucks.
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by The Canuck Fan on Feb 6, 2012 9:12 PM PST up reply actions
Mariners
are on regionally when the Jays aren’t on SNET
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^Hit it right on the head
Canucks get some radio time if they’re in the playoffs, but that’s about it.
I think that the Canucks organization should have more interviews with the sports programs in Seattle, whether it be phone interviews or talking to Paul Silvi on Northwest Sports Tonight (that is replayed on NWCN- which has broadcast in tips of N California throughout Idaho, Oregon, Washington). You get a Sedin talk here or there in the season in sports radio programs, but the coverage of NHL is weak here.
Just remember kids
Vancouver: 2 riots in 17 years
Boston: 5 riots in 8 years, 3 dead
/narrative’d
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by Kent Basky on Feb 6, 2012 11:46 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
more or less
yeah
<3 Boobies!
notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
It's not a fair comparison
Boston fans have had many more chances at rioting. So, if you look at it in percentage terms, we’re still more “riot-prone.”
But the more general point you’re making, with which I agree, is that riots happen as the result of major sporting events. Vancouver is from from alone in witnessing this type of social misconduct.
@NYP_Brooksie Told there will be no league action against Sestito for pulling Prust’s hair in fight. Of course not.
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NYP_Brooksie Larry Brooks
Rinaldo on slewfoot of Parise Sat: “Someone had to stir the pot.” So now a premeditation is worthy of $2500 fine but no suspension?"
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Brooksie is funny
but he has a point both times.
Its on top of his head, but its there
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yeah
Overall Shanahan is a huge improvement, but Rinaldo seems to be rubbing his face in it, and instead of a Shanaban his reaction is more akin to the Campbell ‘boys will be boys’ mentality…
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Jagr? 1987?
I don’t think so.
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by Beer Leaguer on Feb 6, 2012 12:46 PM PST via Android app reply actions
Kobasew fined for taking out Hamhuis Saturday
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=615519
NEW YORK, N.Y. – Colorado Avalanche forward Chuck Kobasew has been fined US$2,500 for his trip on Vancouver Canucks defenceman Dan Hamhuis in Saturday’s game. The NHL announced the fine Monday.
The incident occurred at 13:20 of the second period. Kobasew received a minor penalty for tripping Hamhuis as the Vancouver player touched the puck on an icing call.
The fine, which goes to the Players’ Emergency Assistance Fund, is the maximum allowed under the NHL’s collective bargaining agreement.
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Oops
I read that as “talking about Hamhuis”.
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by Beer Leaguer on Feb 6, 2012 2:17 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Rule #1 About Hamhuis
Don’t Talk about Hamhuis
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notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
by Canuckles on Feb 6, 2012 2:34 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Interesting that Hansen wasn’t fined though after doing the same sort of thing in the Wings game.
Kobasew’s was a more aggressive trip, I guess?
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BradZiemer Brad Ziemer
Luongo to start against Preds. AV says Schneider likely to get start on trip. My guess would be Thursday night in Minny.
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Maybe this is jumping the gun, but
Its looking more and more like the Canicks can’t count on Higgins.
The staph infections arent a new problem, the doctors haven’t been able to cure the ailment, which is often the case for staph problems, and even if there is a miraculous recovery, his fitness will be suffering from these repeated infections and bouts of medication.
Imo
by Hogibogi on Feb 6, 2012 3:50 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Well
this time is a reaction to the medication, not the affliction itself. Its plays havoc on the immune system.
Its all about finding the right meds, I guess. The guy is a fit athlete, and if they get the right meds, he should be fine.
it does become an “if” though…
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yeesh
kausatoday Kevin Allen
Oilers score 21 seconds into tonight’s game. The second assist: Sam Gagner.
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sportsnetbroph Mike Brophy
Grabovski has 2 assists and is flying tonight
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i think there's a Nucks-Canes trade coming.
http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=387096
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Pass on Ruutu
Not at the price of a top prospect (I read Schneider or Hodgson). Especially at his salary level, 4.4M is way too much for a third line centre. I just don’t see where he would fit in. Maybe as a second line winger? That pushes Ballard to the third and Raymond or Hansen to the fourth. That would be a ridiculously deep, fast and gritty forward core. Of course Gillis has pulled off magic tricks before, I guess we’ll see how this one plays out.
I will take Brandon Sutter though. Line him up with Hodgson and Hansen. He can take tougher draws, and backcheck like a fiend.
NO WE NEED MOAR DEPTH AT CENTRE NOW
RIGHT NOW
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notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
@GenePrincipe: RNH will not return to tonight’s game
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Ryan Nugent-Hopkins we meet again…….
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RNH has skills
to be sure, he just needs to mature physically.
Warm winds blowing, heating blue sky, and a road that goes forever...
Thing is
Did you see the hit tonight? Mike Brown is a hard hitter ( I hated when we traded him to the Ducks ), but this was not in any way a big hockey hit, relatively speaking.
I would say, myself, that even though he can play at this level, I am wondering if they might not have been better served letting him grow in junior and win a Gold Medal ( they would have destroyed everyone with RNH in the lineup )…work out like a demon, and come in a 19 year old man.
because at this rate, if he cant take a hit like tonight, he might not be able to work out this offseason, instead rehabbing.
We know what that is like here, right?
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TEAM1040 TEAM Radio
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins left the #Oilers game early & didn’t return after re-aggravating his left shoulder
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aka more time for Cody to take the rookies scoring lead.
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Yotes 2-1 up on the Wings with 10:50 to go.
"Either you give it right back or the next thing you know everyone and his brother will be trying you on for size." - Doug Harvey
yet somehow an obvious penalty was missed on Holmstrom
a 4 on 2 nullified by the Wings bench telling the linesman offside when it was not, and now they are on a late power play for a call that could have easily been let go.
Poor Yotes. I guess they are playing to the crowd of Wings fans there.
Its hard not to jump on the “Wings get all the breaks” bandwagon sometimes
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5:37 left..Doan penalty..please make it swift and painless, Pavel ;)
"Either you give it right back or the next thing you know everyone and his brother will be trying you on for size." - Doug Harvey
great PK
now we have an interesting finish!
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Man
Datsyuk had the puck on a string that last chance
1:24 left, icing, and a Yotes T.O
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Bertuzzi tries the Sedin slap-pass redirect..denied…
"Either you give it right back or the next thing you know everyone and his brother will be trying you on for size." - Doug Harvey
empty netter
Handzul
and the Canucks are …what, 2 points back with 2 in hand?
Nice
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Just listened to the Puck Daddy podcast for today. They were talking about the Calder and Marek was saying he thinks Hodgson should win, since he’s made the most of the circumstances he’s been given.
However, the risk is that he might be obscured by playing on “team awesome”. Heh.
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We should send them the phonetic under the name like they do on NHL.com
Hod-sin.
I would imagine making points per a huge thing would help Cody, his PPM ( points per min ) has to be a lot higher than the others. Apart from the increasingly frail RNH, I would guess no one is even close.
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