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by Kent Basky on Feb 2, 2012 9:48 AM PST
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'What the hell? They counted that? Who lets that kind of thing happen? How could this be allo... oh, right.'
He's not available? Well what about... oh, vacation, right. Well, who's left then? Colin Campbell? God help us all. Yes, there's controversy, kids and it involves the Los Angeles Kings. Turns out their scoreboard kinda sorta froze for around a second and a half. While it was stuck, Drew Doughty scored the game winner. It's official, I feel sorry for the Columbus Blue Jackets this season. While most teams deserve the season they get, when this kind of thing happens to you, how can you not feel bad? It's been a while since I had a cup of coffee with y'all so I will do my best to provide you with the links and witty repartee you've learned to love since The Stanchion and Jordan took over my old slot. So pour yourself a hot cup of whatever and settle in. We've got a bushel of links for you to check out as we prepare for what should be another barnburner of a game tonight, with the Detroit Red Wings in town. So in honour of Detroit Rock City, here's this:
CANUCKS NEWS:
- We all remember the last match against the Wings, which ended up being one of the best games the league has seen this season. Unlike some of our rivals, Detroit are not only wary of the Canucks, but free and easy with the compliments. So, they're the Anti-Blackhawks, basically. The Province
- We know you can't get enough of the 'goalie controversy', so what was Roberto Luongo to do after Cory Schneider sent tongues a-wagging across the NHL Tuesday night? Tell jokes, of course. Fortunately, this time they were legitimately funny and involved zero references to the word 'pump'. The Province
- We all know that Sportsnet's Mark Spector weighed in yesterday, putting himself squarely in the 'Trade Schneider NOW!' camp (personally, given his noted distaste for the Canucks, I still say he has ulterior motives in seeing the Canucks fail at all cost), today, Cam Cole adds his two cents to the difficult decision that may lie ahead for GMMG and the Canucks. Vancouver Sun
- The last time the Canucks and Wings met, Niklas Kronwall was kind of a dick to Ryan Kesler. In keeping with the Canucks preference to stay focused this season, Kes says it ain't no thang. I still think Kronwall might wanna think twice before launching himself at Kesler or any other Canucks player tonight, as he got off light last time. Pro Hockey Talk
- Speaking of the Keslordian One, Our pals at PITB have the latest in the Keslurking craze: A music video. PITB
- Another Cody Hodgson article? Another Cody Hodgson article. We know you love it, and friend of the blog JJ Guerrero has more on The Franchise, examining just how clutch this kid is. Canucks Hockey Blog
- In which Cam Charron finally admits 'clutch' is a thing. So he makes a stat to measure it. I love this. and of course, Hodgson leads the way. Canucks Army
- Canucks Army recently recruited none other than Team 1040's Jeff Patterson to their ranks, this morning he looks at the Canucks at the 50 game mark. Canucks Army
THE REST OF THE HOCKEY WORLD:
- Bittersweet news about Mr. Hockey. He was in my hometown of Kamloops last night for a Blazers game, while his family announced that the greatest hockey player of all time (yes, I said it) is now showing signs of dementia, the same disease that killed his wife, Colleen. FAN 590 (h/t PHT)
- That buzzer beater by Drew Doughty? I have a feeling this one isn't gonna make people happy no matter what happens. Here's a nice breakdown of what happened. Puck Daddy
- Scott Howson, Columbus Blue Jackets GM is not too happy, as you can imagine. He lays down the gauntlet to the NHL as it prepares to investigate the matter in a frank and honest appeal for justice. Sure, the Blue Jackets are the laughing stock of the NHL and Howson continues to amaze us all by still being employed, but they truly do deserve better than this. Blue Jackets Official Site
- Meanwhile, the investigation continues as Colin Campbell has already conceded the goal should not have counted. Now it's about finding why the clock stopped. The Globe And Mail
- And while we anticipate the triumphant return of our buddy The Stanchion to Nucks Misconduct next week, here's his breakdown of the video from last night's controversial goal. Magic? Or more of the same in LA? Legion Of Blog
- Puck Daddy's man in Russia, Dmitry Chesnokov tweets that the families of the Lokomotiv tragedy have filed a suit, disagreeing with the findings of what caused the tragic Sept 7 crash. @dchesnokov
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For the kings game, my opinion is
They should call it a tie, and make them do a shoot out for a point after the next game they play vs each other.
by Hogibogi on Feb 2, 2012 10:07 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
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nice catch by @stevemay on twitter
Problems with the clock in LA aren’t new
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Elliotte Friedman with more
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/article678018.ece
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1817&dat=19971126&id=sTsdAAAAIBAJ&sjid=JaYEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6733,5371276
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Please, I don’t think there is any NHL conspiracy here. This was LA-Columbus. The NHL only keeps Canadian teams from winning. Duh.
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I do love how Kings fans are trying to downplay cheating
But if I was the Sharks, Stars, and the other teams near 8th, I’d be pissed.
Its not the team’s fault, but the timekeeper should be fired at the least!
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Check out Lombardi's explanation
from and ESPN article. Some Grade AAA bullshitting right here!
“Those clocks are sophisticated instruments that calculate time by measuring electrical charges called coulombs — given the rapidity and volume of electrons that move through the measuring device the calibrator must adjust at certain points which was the delay you see — the delay is just recalibrating for the clock moving too quickly during the 10 – 10ths of a second before the delay — this insures that the actual playing time during a period is exactly 20 minutes That is not an opinion — that is science — amazing devise quite frankly.”
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Clocks surely do not
calculate time by measuring “coulombs”. I have to think he was saying this tongue in cheek. Nobody is that stupid…right? Right?
Why not?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coulomb
Seems to me a clock “could” measure time in that way.
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A coulomb is just a measure of electrical charge in the same way that a metre is a measure of distance or a Volt is a measure of electrical potential.
Standard clocks measure time by counting oscillations of some sort. Quartz crystals vibrate at a very specific frequency when “hit” with a varying voltage.
Digital clocks use the 60Hz frequency and count polarity changes.
[There is a great Scientific American mag out right now all about time with lots of cool stuff about amazingly accurate clocks if anyone’s interested!]
If they can prove the clock was stopped
intentionally for the purpose of helping the Kings then I am all for looking into firings. But lets not call for someone’s head without all the facts. If you watch the tenths of seconds going by in the replay they actually do speed up and slow down before stopping so perhaps there is some merit to the explanation provided by the Kings. I’ve seen time keepers accidentally stop the clock before and I will see it again. I’ve never seen a time keeper intentionally try to help or hurt a specific team.
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It would reset after every stoppage, I imagine.
I’ve watched it a couple times, and I don’t see any slowing or speeding, just a tenth of a second number flashing too quick to see.
Pretty damning that it occurs on a power play where they need the extra second to score, pretty damning as well that somehow an extra second for “coulombs” somehow was found in that little of time.
As for not intentionally, it happened to the Grizzlies in that same arena years ago. Shaq miraculously had time to get the rebound and shoot when a clock stopped the same way.
Someone should be fired, but of course they have to prove it first, and there will be some kinda rationalization that will deny that firing
But that does not mean it did not happen.
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10 years ago
and we have no idea if it’s the same person or persons who were operating the clock on both occasions. In fact it’s HIGHLY unlikely it was the same person/persons.
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it happened
in the same fashion. The Lakers ( and I am not a basketball fan, at least not much of one, so this is just what I read today ) are reputed to have that happen all the time to their benefit.
I get what you are saying Mike, for sure, but you have to admit that is pretty damn suspicious, and that the explanation is pretty weak.
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I just know that I have never met a time keeper
who would do that on purpose.
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Been a huge NBA fan most of my life..
And I’ve never ever hear of that, particularly that it happens “all the time” for the Lakers. I really think it was an honest mistake; one the Jackets have a right to be furious over, but an honest mistake nonetheless. I’d need to see some pretty damning evidence to convince me otherwise.
Dan your point is taken
but how can you justify depriving someone from their livelihood without evidence of wrongdoing or gross neglect, especially when you consider the stakes: a hockey game outcome.
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Well
I am unemployed and looking, so I certainly get where you are coming from in relation to livelihood, but when we talk about a sport with total revenues north of, what was it, 2 Billion with a “B”?
If you don’t have the sense that the games are fair and above reproach from that shit, what is the point? To say nothing of the illegal gaming angle ( hell, and the legal one, the province is a bookie right now anyhow!)
For instance, one story Lebrun told today was in the Montreal of his youth, where they had a lotto that used the numbers of the first goal and the last goal as winners.
There was more than a few similar things like what happened yesterday.
its circumstantial, so someone probably won’t lose their job, but this is the same rink where “clock malfunctions” are relatively routine for the Lakers.
That “coulombs” explanation was silly too. I mean, the last stoppage of play was at 19:43. Is Wilson saying that it lost a second in the last 17 seconds?
really?
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Well
Who is going to be let go? Not the GM or high ranking officials who are making lots of money. Some poor plug like you or me, making $50 grand or less a year to press a few buttons will be the one who is let go.
I agree with you that games need to be above reproach for various reasons and the whole incident smells a bit fishy (It’s how the technology works, don’t worry it’s all good), but I really have an issue with firing someone over what was likely a mistake – at least we think it was. And that’s the point. We THINK it was a mistake – I can’t justify depriving someone from their livlihood and probably damaging their reputation as well, based on conjecture.
For the record, circumstantial evidence, at law anyways, is generally regarded with far more weight than most people realize. Saying a case is based on entirely “circumstantial” evidence isn’t as much of a knock as we might think.
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Good Babcock article..
The Wings are always one of my “B-teams”, and Zata, Dats, Lidstrom, and Babcock are a huge part of why. Class, through and through. The Canucks and Wings is a rivalry based on respect, and is usually my favourite match-up in the NHL. Can’t wait for the game tonight, particularly seeing as I missed the game against the Hawks the other night.
I was going to post this yesterday, but only just heard Ray making fun of Phaneuf now..
I love Ferraro. Best colour guy around.. If I could only listen to Jim Hughson and Ray Ferraro calling hockey games for the rest of my life, I’d be cool with that. Last year I was working construction jobs (and thus, driving to work every day very early), and Ray made listening to Rintoul in the mornings almost bearable. Almost.
My favourite Ray Ferraro moment though?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI0CFWPxdss
“PATRIK STEFAN, YOU SHOULD BE EMBARRASSED FOR WHAT YOU JUST DID.”
Actually, no;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plsD3deR6TU
Ray actually sounds like he’s going to hop over the boards and fight Lap himself. You can literally HEAR his blood boiling. I LOVE IT.
Also, in that second clip...
It’s pretty funny seeing Malhotra and Lapierre chirping each other and almost going at it.
I like how Lapierre
cross checked a guy approve the red line at the side of the net to make sure the guy didn’t score a rebound and Ray went nuts. If that wasn’t Lapierre and it was a big physically Western Canadian D man clearing the side of the net to make sure a goal wasn’t scored Ray would have been effusive in his praise of the hard nosed physical play.
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And by approve
I think I probably mean above
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Can't say I agree at all.
But then, we’re speculating about “what-ifs”… Usually doesn’t lead to anything constructive.
The only problem with that play
is that their momentum was heading towards the boards so I have no problem with a suspension on the play. I just don’t think it’s “garbage” nor overly dirty. It’s just clearing the net that happened to lead to an injury. If that’s dirty then it’s dirty every time a player is cross checked down in order to prevent a scoring chance.
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Huh?
He crosschecks him from behind 4 feet from the boards. That’s as dirty as it gets. Lots of ways to clear the net without crosschecking a guy in the numbers.
by Canuckelhead on Feb 2, 2012 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
So how far away from the boards
do you have to get for cross checking to not be dirty? I didn’t get the memo on the correct distance I guess.
Also he initiates the check prior to cross the goal line which is 11 feet from the end boards. So 4 feet is probably not accurate.
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cross checking is a penatly
It’s one thing for the dman to give a guy a little shot when battling in front of the net. Any other cross check is a dirty play. Especially when you’re going at high speeds, like they were there and especially when it’s completely unnecessary, like it was there.
by Canuckelhead on Feb 2, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
Cross checking occurs all the time around the net
especially when there might be a loose puck near by. I don’t call it dirty when that happens so I can’t call that play overly dirty either. Maybe you can. If you get upset every time someone is cross checked because it’s always dirty then that’s fine by your definition it would be a garbage play. By mine it really wasn’t. I’m fine with the suspension because they were moving towards the boards but I don’t think it was “garbage” nor overly dirty. More unfortunate that the guy got hurt than anything else.
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Yes around the net
But cross checking a guy head first into the boards is a very different thing. What constitutes a dirty play is a pretty subjective thing, like you say. That one, or any play where you’re driven into the boards seems pretty cut and dry to me, especially considering the outrage around here when Raymond was driven back first into the boards last June. If you thought that was dirty, i’m not sure how you could argue this wasn’t.
by Canuckelhead on Feb 2, 2012 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
Because that was right up against the boards
and he was ridden in. This happened at the red line and was a shove. If the player stays on his skates and doesn’t go down it’s never been heard of since.
And if that doesn’t constitute a cross check “around the net” I have no idea what does. Like I said because the guy was facing the boards and ended up injured I have no problem with the suspension. But that’s not an overly dirty play and certainly not “garbage” or “gutless”. It isn’t “gutless” and “garbage” when a big D men cross checks a forward away from the net. D men are supposed to put guys on their asses around the net.
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And I dont know that I do think
that hit on Raymond was really that dirty. He just rode the guy into the boards. He didn’t know he was gonna get hurt. Should have been suspended but probably not overly dirty.
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Big dmen
Are not crosschecking forwards who are traveling at high speeds towards the boards. They are moving guys from the front of the net, not helping them lose balance and go smashing into the boards. You must be able to see the difference. If not, I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree. In any case it’s a spilt second decision, so i’m not trying to paint anyone as “gutless”, just pointing out a dirty play but that’s what he got suspended for so I guess it’s not really worth discussing.
by Canuckelhead on Feb 2, 2012 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
I see exactly what I just described
He got suspended cause the guy was hurt. If he wasn’t that wouldn’t have been a suspension. But injury does not mean a play is or isn’t dirty.
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Yeah, I'm with you on this one.
I like Max, but that play, to me, is absolutely indefensible. Also, I can’t see how you can compare a shove/crosscheck at full speed into the boards to the shit that goes in between two guys battling for position in front of the net.
Because it's clear to me
that’s what he was trying to do. Clear that player away from the net to prevent him from scoring since Lappy wasn’t sure where the puck was.
A couple things to remember here. One, I said I was okay with the suspension. My problem is with calling the play “garbage” “gutless” or anything like that. As I said numerous times I don’t think it’s overly dirty. Just an attempt to do the right thing in the wrong situation and an unfortunate injury.
And I don’t get how comparing a shove/cross check with a shove/cross check is so hard for you to “see”. In one situation it’s okay and in another it’s not? Fine But if a guy is attempting the first and accidentally does the second that doesn’t make it a dirty play.
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Yeah, it is okay in one situation, and not in another.
When a forward and a defenceman are battling in front of the net, they’re usually stationary, or mostly stationary. A forward stands in front of the net, and the d-man tries to move him. The forward is looking to acquire, and maintain position; hence, he is not moving at full speed or anywhere close to.
So much of the criteria for determining dirty plays is whether or not a player is in a “vulnerable position”. When a forward has his ass parked in front of the net, his footing is mostly stable (he’s also usually facing in towards the play), meaning (in my opinion), he’s not in great danger of being seriously injured from a cross-check/shove by a d-man.
When two players, one in front of the other, are charging in towards the end boards at full-speed, and trying to get possession of the puck, the circumstances have changed enough from the net-battle described above that it becomes a very dangerous play.
So, here is Lap again;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plsD3deR6TU
Here is OV on Brian Campbell;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14oUVVTY05s
Here is Hossa on Hamhuis;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPrWbTqJE4s
Now, looking at these three plays, Lapierre initiates contact at almost exactly the same position as Hossa and OV do. Do you not think any of these plays are dirty?
Not really
I agree it can be dangerous but in both cases if the D man rode the hit better he’d have been fine. But because the guy shoving them was stronger they fell and went down heavily. Penalties on the plays? Sure. A game or two suspension? Sure. That doesn’t mean it’s dirty. Just like I don’t think Rome’s hit in the SCF was dirty yet he got suspended. If you are racing for a puck or trying to knock a guy off the puck and instinct takes over and a guy gets hurt cause the boards are close that doesn’t make it dirty in my opinion. I don’t just dirty or not based on where the boards are I judge it on intent. In all three of those cases I think the players thought they were making an honest attempt to finish their check. Dangerous? Sure. But again I don’t think something being dangerous makes it dirty. Taking a slap shot when a guy is down trying to block it could be considered dangerous but it’s not dirty.
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Funny, your Momma told me that too, but I think in a different context
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“Below the waist, Toews is huge!”
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RT @titchley @BrentButt, based on your extensive knowledge of the Canucks, who’s the most likely to get #Kronwalled tonight? << Kronwall
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Yup
"Either you give it right back or the next thing you know everyone and his brother will be trying you on for size." - Doug Harvey
From this picture, Kronwall is correct
that he didn’t leave his feet. By carefully counting the coulombs and resetting the metres in a vertical sense, I was able to determine that the arena and everything in it (other than Kronwall) dropped by 1 metre during this sequence. That happens from time to time to keep everything on the level.
by FormerHab on Feb 2, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
..the arena and everything in it (other than Kronwall) dropped by 1 metre
That also explains why my golf game is so inconsistent — it’s the damn course moving during my swing!
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rec'd
love the level of snark in this one!
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I don't wish injury on opponent
but if Kronwall were to try this again tonight and his intended victim target were to duck, causing Kronwall to slam violently into the boards, well… let’s just say I might have a hard time finding tears to shed…
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Remember though
it’s only dirty if the Bruins do it so we would be fine.
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Byfalupugus wishes you would all just pay attention to Clockgate
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SCIENCE!
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I want the coulombes thing to be true
simply because coulombes is basically just Columbus if you struggle with spelling.
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haha
It looks bad on the surface, it looks worse when you consider there was a stoppage 17 seconds earlier. I dunno… it’s just too weird.
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One thing I didn't understand.
This is a reviewable play. How come they didn’t review it?
Referees routinely review the time clock during the last minutes of the game, and sometimes they add a second or so to the clock. For instance, when there is a stoppage due to the goalie freezing the puck, they may add half a second, or whatever. So, in this case, they could have reviewed it, and instead of adding time, they could have taken away time. Which would have negated the goal.
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and...
the BJ’s have pulled Howson’s blog from their site. The clock thickens…
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stlmn39 Steven Liberman
If Parise to Canucks: #Devils should receive Mason Raymond, Cory Schneider, Christopher Tanev, a Prospect, 1st rounder.
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I remember
the Canucks trading for Alex Mogilny. I am not sure who they gave up, but the big star never got close to his potential, as a Canuck. The trade was a bust.
Look at Danny Heatley. How did that work out with San Jose.
I am always terrified of these blockbuster trades, when you have to give away half the farm to get the guy.
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Peca, among others.
Heatley, I don’t think is a fair comparison. Parise has the speed and athleticism that Heatley simply doesn’t, Parise is younger, and I think he’s a better/more talented player than Heatley in pretty much every conceivable category.
If this comes with the knowledge that Parise is signing here long term...
I would do that. I’m also reading that as “Tanev, a prospect”, rather than “Tanev and a prospect.”
Parise is fucking dynamite, and is I think the absolute best player the Canucks have any conceivable chance of getting, slim as it may be. I’d take Parise over Weber, Suter, Perry, Nash, Ryan.. etc.. But that’s just me. I’m hesitant to those huge moves unless I really believe it’s a game-changer, in the strongest sense. That would qualify.
I guess
if he is that good, then the only question is how serious is Parise about committing himself long-term to the Canucks.
The Canucks would give up a good chunk of their future, so this would only make sense if Parise would want to play a big chunk of his career with them. Otherwise, forget about it.
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Agreed.
Absolutely no fucking way if it’s a rental. But if it’s a sign-and-trade type situation, or if the trade is happening with the knowledge that Parise will resign here long term, I’d do it in a heartbeat. Half of a heartbeat, even.
close, pull the prospect or the 1st and that is a fair deal at that understanding
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too much for a rental...a little too much for a guy coming with the understanding of a contract already worked out...
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