Thursday's Numbers: Malhotra's role is more important than Hodgson's
I got into another Twitter debate on Cody Minutes v. Manny Minutes today.
I guess doing research that shows that Hodgson scores at a higher rate when he plays 14:28 or less isn't enough to satisfy some folk. The important thing is that Alain Vigneault clearly doesn't know how to run a hockey team because Cody Hodgson is so talented.
Obviously, nobody would prefer to put Hodgson on the ice in lieu of Ryan Kesler or Henrik Sedin. Even as a second line winger, the Canucks' current set-up of Kesler-David Booth-Chris Higgins drive play like no other line on the team can do.
Irrefutable fact #1 - Cody Hodgson has been playing more minutes than Manny Malhotra lately
I tallied up every Vancouver Canuck 5-on-5 situation from January 1st on (although timeonice.com skips the Phoenix game for some reason. The numbers didn't want a part in that one) and Hodgson has played 169.5 minutes to Malhotra's 139.
Irrefutable fact #2 - Cody Hodgson gets offensive zone minutes. Manny Malhotra gets defensive zone minutes.
Check out where both players have been sent out for faceoffs since January 2nd against San Jose:
| Offensive | Defensive | O-Usage | D-Usage | Ozone % | |
| Hodgson | 57 | 17 | 23.1% | 7.5% | 77.0% |
| Malhotra | 5 | 133 | 2.0% | 58.3% | 3.6% |
The O- and D-Usage rates imply the percentage of total faceoffs that both players have been sent out for in that situation. So Malhotra has been out for 58.3% of all Canuck defensive faceoffs since January 2. Hodgson has seen 77% of his starts in the offensive zone relative to the defensive zone.
Irrefutable fact #3 - Manny Malhotra can drive the play forward
| Minutes | Corsi/60 | D Starts/60 | Adjusted/60 | |
| Hodgson | 169.5 | -7.4 | -14.2 | -18.8 |
| Malhotra | 139.5 | -20.6 | 55.1 | 23.4 |
Using possession metrics from timeonice.com, I calculated that Hodgson has been out for 21 more shot attempts against his own net than the opponent's, while Malhotra has been out for 48 more against his own net. That makes it seem like Hodgson's been the better player, but when you adjust it for both minutes played and offensive zone starts, you'll find that Malhotra is actually a plus player.
If both players had equal zone starts at either end, Malhotra would carry the play much better.
Finally, check out these graphs:
via behindthenet.ca
via behindthenet.ca
Since Game #572, which was the first the Canucks played in January, you can see Hodgson's zone starts creep up towards 50. Keep in mind he had a good month in box cars but the team's possession rank dwindled. His Fenwick rate (shots and missed shots) dwindles while Malhotra, dipping from about a 25% rate to just under 15% now, has kept his Fenwick rate relatively steady despite this.
If you want to give Cody Hodgson more minutes, go right ahead. But don't take more seconds away from Malhotra, is doing a damn good job on the Canucks' fourth line, or whatever you want to call it (I prefer to call it the 1st Defensive Line).
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What I take from this
Is that neither is more important. That both are needed for this team to be successful. Manny is needed for defensive minutes but he’s not as offensively potent as he once was so hodgson is needed for that all important depth scoring.
Same. Great stuff, Cam!
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by Sean Zandberg on Feb 16, 2012 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
Or, Malhotra no longer has to put up those same points. He’s playing with Bitz and Lapierre, with the sole responsibility of preventing goals against.
Why do fans not understand that as a great responsibility, and that he’s doing a damn good job at it?
If anyone thinks Lappy has any offensive upside, based on some of the numbers he put up at the start of the season, they really don’t understand anything about sample sizes, statistical anomalies.
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by Vancouverguy on Feb 16, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
And even though I won’t lie and pretend I understand all the stats stuff, still great stuff by Cam. I read these number charts, even though I don’t spend any time trying to understand what they mean. =D
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by Vancouverguy on Feb 16, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
I get it
It’s just that being defensivly responsible and scoring points aren’t mutually exclusive.
by Canuckelhead on Feb 16, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions
Fair. Just seems like he’s tasked to do exactly what he’s doing… and doing really well too.
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by Vancouverguy on Feb 17, 2012 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah
But it’s exactly what he was tasked to do since he was acquired. Difference being, in past years he was expected to shoulder some of the offensive load as well. That role has now entirely been given to hodgson.
by Canuckelhead on Feb 17, 2012 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
A rough picture of current ice-time
Twins: 14.5 ES, 3.5 PP
Kes: 13.5 ES, 3 PP, 2 PK
Booth: 13 ES, 2 PP,
Burr: 14 ES, 1.5 PP, 2 PK
Higgins: 13 ES, 2 PP
Hodgson: 10 ES, 2 PP
Jank: 12 ES, 2.5 PK
Mace: 13 ES, 1 PP, 1 PK
Manny: 10 ES, 2.5 PK
Lappy: 10 ES, 1 PK
That’s our 11 best forwards; AV clearly feels pretty comfy rolling 4 lines at evens. Additional minutes for Coho almost certainly have to come at Manny’s expense, unless Coho were going to be bumped up a line (which: eh). I’m pretty happy with that breakdown.
unless Coho were going to be bumped up a line
…to play winger. Finish the thought.
by Passive Voice on Feb 16, 2012 6:29 PM PST up reply actions
None of these graphs look like penises
I was promised penis graphs.
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