Morning Buzz: Canucks/Bruins aftermath, Arniel on the outs, more grounded Pens
by Jordan Clarke on Jan 9, 2012 7:58 AM PST
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What a great weekend. On Friday I saw Rise of the Planet of the Apes, which ended up being a great movie. Then on Saturday morning, I got to watch the sequel. The animation on the primates wearing the black and yellow jerseys sure was lifelike! Are they really that violent in real life?
Kudos to the Canucks for coming out, playing a level-headed game, and answering a lot of critics. Even if you ignore all the pre-game hype and the post-game controversy, the Canucks beat a team with a record of 22-3-1 in the last two months, and scored four PowerPlay goals against the league's 7th best PK. It was an impressive accomplishment by any measure.
Zandberg did a great job of sifting through the aftermath of this game with his links post on the weekend. More fallout from the game, a very interesting "Today in Canucks History", and headlines from around the NHL coming right up!
Vancouver Canucks news & notes:
Marchand's low-bridge on Salo was a cheapshot that has spawned much debate. Here are a few different takes on it: PITB looks at the events leading up to it, Canucks Army breaks down the difference between it and a legitimate hipcheck, and the Vancouver Sun's piece features this quote from Kevin Bieksa:
"It's very, very cheap...I can't think of a cheaper hit you can do on the ice. That and a slew-foot kind of go hand in hand. Twenty seconds before that, [Marchand] and Sami have a pretty good collision in the exact same spot. Sami probably gets the better of him. Then second time, Marchand comes back and loses his will and goes down low. A cheap shot from him, and I hope he gets a phone call from the league."
- Salo reportedly has a concussion from the hit. Marchand has a phone hearing with Shanahan today, meaning he can't be suspended more than four games. Here's hoping Salo's concussion is a mild one, and Marchand gets the max four game ban. [TSN]
- The other controversy was Milan Lucic leaving the bench to join the line brawl a few minutes into the game. Lucic won't be given the automatic 10-game suspension that usually accompanies a player leaving the bench, since the NHL immediately rescinded the game misconduct after the game. But based on this evidence, shouldn't he be? [Canucks Hockey Blog]
- There's a new phenomenon in the world of sports, and that is the reaction of fans and media types on Twitter when a wild game like the one between the Canucks and Bruins is going down. Here's that game according to Twitter. [Canucks Hockey Blog]
- Who was the under-appreciated 4th star of Saturday's game? [Legion of Blog]
- It's official: Mike Duco has been called up to replace the injured Andrew Ebbett, who broke his collarbone taking a Dennis Seidenberg hit. This is perfect timing for Duco, as the Canucks play his former team tonight. I liked what I saw from Duco in the preseason. [Canucks.com] Looks like he's already set for the playoffs:
- The Blue Jackets have fired head coach Scott Arniel. Most writers have had this headline ready since October. [TSN]
- The Canucks play the Panthers tonight, who may be the surprise of the league so far this season. Are they for real? [Sporting News]
- Ryan Lambert explains why the Canucks vs. the Bruins is the best and worst of hockey, plus a recap of the week that was in the NHL. [Puck Daddy]
- Ilya Bryzgalov, for better and for worse, was the breakout star of this year's season of HBO 24/7. Here are his 10 best quotes from the four episodes. [Puck Puck Goose]
- Speaking of Bryz, looks like he lost his train of thought in his post-game interview last night:
- The Penguins continue to take it on the chin. Jordan Staal is out 4-6 weeks with a knee injury and James Neal is out indefinitely with a broken foot. The timing couldn't be worse for a team that has lost four in a row and is starting to slide in the Eastern Conference standings. [TSN]
- Clint Malarchuk was CBC's guest on After Hours on Saturday, he of the horrific throat injury in 1989 that nearly took his life. [CBC]
- Shane Doan scored the first hat trick of his career on Saturday against the New York Islanders. [Puck Daddy] It was a good night for good guys...
- Jarome Iginla finally notched his 500th career goal against the Wild. Not the prettiest of his career, but he's never been the most flashy superstar in the game. Congrats to Jarome:
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Ian MacIntyre takes on the narrative of 'Cowards'...
http://blogs.vancouversun.com/2012/01/09/cowards-in-boston-fact-or-fiction/
Love that he called NESN ‘TASS’… Have a read for some insight into Weise’s refusal to take on Thornton. Turns out we all got fooled by more Boston spin…
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Holy crap. Look at Rome!!- Sean Zandberg
I was going to link you guys to that one too. Interesting. I was under the impression that he tried to goad Thorton into a fight, and then backed off, which would look bad, but if he was challenging someone else, and Thorton butted in, that’s a whole different story.
Certainly, McQuaid didn’t have to entertain Wiese, and had every right to say no, but this makes me feel much better about what he did.
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by Vancouverguy on Jan 9, 2012 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
4 Games?
Everything I’ve read says a phone call from Shanahan gets a player 5, max.
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I was under the impression the suspension had to be less than 5 games, so 4 max. Could be wrong.
by Jordan Clarke on Jan 9, 2012 9:34 AM PST up reply actions
its 5 max
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OK, I know this guy is a homer so don't shoot the messenger:
@HackswithHaggs
Claude Julien up in stands today watching practice w/Cam Neely/Peter Chiarelli today. Chiarelli fired up about Vigneaults comments yesterday
Julien on Vigneaults comments: “Pretty hypocritical w/everything thats gone on. Sometimes you have to look in own backyard. So hypocritical”
Julien on Canucks mindset: “I guess we’re stupid. We’re idiots. Theyre so much more intelligent than everybody else. Thats the way they act”
by CdP on Jan 9, 2012 9:40 AM PST up reply actions
Ah, Julien
You are a smart guy. Smart enough to get fired in Montreal and New Jersey. Imbecile.
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by Smoboy41 on Jan 9, 2012 9:43 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
finally they get it
Julien on Canucks mindset: "I guess we’re stupid. We’re idiots. Theyre so much more intelligent than everybody else.
Who cares. Just digging a deeper hole for themselves.
Julien should go to business school
The leadership courses tell you one thing: it all comes from the top. If his team is a bunch of idiots, he made them that way.
bruins fan so do with it what you will
you can call me a troll if you want but i dont think either side can say the other side is especially dirty considering:
hamuis hit on lucic in the finals was exactly what marchand did to salo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJRZULaUF-8
so in that sense it is hypocritical to call marchand a dirty player… there seem to be a lot of canuck fans cheering that play
and the aaron rome hit is still one of the dirtiest plays ive ever seen.
not saying the bruins are choir boys… they clearly arent. but the canucks shouldnt talk so much.
To claim those are the exact same hits is dishonest.
To pretend Marchand was doing a hipcheck is dishonest. He goes as low as he possibly can, makes Salo doesn’t even have the puck. Hamhuis’ hipcheck was well executed and Lucic lands safety. What Marchand did is what they called submarining, and is traditionally one of the most dirty hits hockey play. Back in the day when hipchecks were more common, submarining was considered its evil cousin.
And if Rome’s hit on Horton is the dirtiest thing you’ve seen, you watch Bruins games with your eyes closed.
In closing you are dishonest and should go away and feel bad.
im dishonest?
well executed hip check where lucic lands safely? if by well executed you mean as low as you can go and by safely you mean almost on his head and then on his back.
look i get this is part of hockey. there are gray areas and each side calls out the other side. but again, to say the fingerbiting canucks do everything the right way is dishonest
Not a grey area
Marchand and Salo were in the corner fighting for a loose puck. Totally different scenario
by Canuckelhead on Jan 9, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
One bite, one time.
When Bergy stuck his fingers in Burr’s mouth. I’m not going to totally enter this debate, but calling the Canucks “finger biters” is the same as calling the Bruins “those dicks who throw people into stanchions and break their necks.”
hey now
everyone knows that hockey gloves are thin as paper and also are lined with spikes inside. So if you get bitten while wearing one, it will totally give you a severely sprained pinky, and you can see why their man would be really upset by that.
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come on
If you don’t understand what a hip check is, and what Marchand did was not a hip check…there is no point.
But, I can sum it up for you. The puck. Looch had it, and was coming up to the guy on the boards. Every hockey player since 12 knows that a hip check is a possibility, and might be coming. Its right in front of you.
What Marchand did was fake a guy on the puck ( and the narrative from Boston is funny as hell there…Salo was pinching to hold the puck. The guy has not “run a guy” in 15 years in the NHL! ) and low bridge a guy’s legs.
Every hockey player that has ever played can tell the difference immediately.
Puck. No puck. Simple…see?
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about that choir boys stuff
we realize that both teams can play dirty.
our problem is with the way the media painted the bruins as angels and the canucks as demons in the finals
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fuck em
what goes around comes around indeed
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I’m kind of tired of all this. From a purely statistical standpoint, the odds of meeting again are remote.
by CdP on Jan 9, 2012 9:41 AM PST up reply actions
It’s only slightly better when there is a disparity between talent levels in teams.
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by Vancouverguy on Jan 9, 2012 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
once again
zero personal responsibility. if the Bruins had shut their damn mouths instead of trying to make the hockey world look like fools with this ‘self-defence’ bullshit, AV wouldn’t have even bothered with this.
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Holy crap. Look at Rome!!- Sean Zandberg
exactly
instead, Julien and Chiarelli will get their whine on, the Boston puck “media” ( you have to use quotation marks for those guys from now on…bunch of myopic cheerleaders!) will lap it up and write more fiction.
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They keep being distracted
by what a coach is saying three time zones over and they’re going to have bigger fish to fry. I’m surprised they’re still talking about it rather than focusing on Winnipeg.
You mean the comments that basically say “what goes around, comes around,” and if you dish out that kind of hit regularly, someone’s likely to do the same to you?
they're comparing what he said
to the direct threats issued against Steve Moore back then. Not the same. If they were due to play them again, I could see how it could be thought that way. But let’s face it: in all likelihood, these two teams will not see each other til next season.
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Holy crap. Look at Rome!!- Sean Zandberg
AV
said the biggest tru-ism ever. The entire NHL knows he is a dirty player. Telling him to smarten up or someone might hurt him is not exactly a newsbreaking statement!
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Well, at least with the new alignment we'll see each other twice a year now
This should stay enjoyable for a while.
Thats not happening
At least not next year
by Canuckelhead on Jan 9, 2012 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
thanks to the NHLPA no. I find the grounds on which they disputed this to be despicable, but on the other hand I thought the realignment plan was totally unfair, and as per usual-NHL completely favorable to eastern seaboard teams.
Ray Ferraro mentioned that this was likely all NHLPA posturing. And, there’s really no way NHL can afford a lockout. If NBA was out of the public limelight for the 3 months it was locked out, the NHL might disappear from the USA after a similar one.
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by Vancouverguy on Jan 9, 2012 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
He's wrong
The re-alignment would have meant less travel for the Canucks. A lot less.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 9, 2012 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
Agreed. I think some Eastern teams were initially hesitant exactly because of the travel arrangement. They now have to make cross-country teams to every Western city at least once a year.
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by Vancouverguy on Jan 9, 2012 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
2 Questions
1. Can we refer to the Boston game as the “Hodgson Game?”
2. Do we need a fighter who can play? I still like the idea of a Konopka-type to at least deploy strategically, certainly not every game.
OK, 3 questions
3. How did Thornton not get an instigator penalty for dropping his gloves when no opponent did?
I think they gave 2 to Wiese for unsportsman like conduct, which makes it off-setting.
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by Vancouverguy on Jan 9, 2012 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
1) Agreed. That might just be the game that puts him on the map to the rest of the league.
2) I don’t mind a fighter/player for futures deal, and no, they don’t have to play every game. But the cap is stretched mighty thin as is.
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by Vancouverguy on Jan 9, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
Off Topic...
Is this cold, or what? The Thrasher’s old locker room probably still smells like game-worn knee pads, and already this candy company is taking pot-shots at them. :)
Look how they spelled the name in my kid’s holiday chocolate calendar thing:
That’s an OFFICIAL NHL product right there! :)
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I'm missing something
cause i don’t get it
by Canuckelhead on Jan 9, 2012 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
um
1: it’s spelled “Trashers”
2: they’re no longer a team.
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it occurs to me
that my sarcasmometer needs a tune up, maybe…
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Maybe
I did not explain or photo it properly. It would not be the first time I thought a joke was obvious but it turned out not so much actually.
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no i think it was obvious
i think that canucklehead was being sarcastic and i missed it, hence my second comment.
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ah!!
Okay I’ll go in with you for that tune-up then, if that’s ok. :)
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nope
my brain just kept seeing an h I guess. I really didnt see it. It is me who needs the tune-up to something.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 9, 2012 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
Never noticed!
I have a calendar too … I’ll check mine later :P
This morning on Team1040
Also, Ray Ferraro had some great input which is pretty much my sentiments 100%. I’ll try to link it later today once they upload the podcast onto the net.
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When are they going to announce Marchands suspension?
Or lack of suspension. His hearing was over an hour ago.
He’s probably trying to convince them he was protecting himself again
Have you accepted Aaron Rome as your Lord and Savior?
He was protecting himself
by turtling under a check. I don’t see how they can not suspend him after the hard stance they’ve taken on protecting players heads
by Canuckelhead on Jan 9, 2012 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
Vigneault could meet Julien sooner than we think...
From NHL.com
If the Vancouver Canucks defeat the Florida Panthers, Canucks coach Alain Vigneault will be behind one of the benches at the 2012 Tim Hortons NHL All-Star Game in Ottawa.
If the Canucks lose in regulation or overtime, it will be San Jose’s Todd McLellan earning the final coaching spot in the All-Star Game.
The spot is determined by which team has the greatest points percentage in the Western Conference through Monday’s games. Rangers coach John Tortorella wrapped up the Eastern Conference’s spot Friday.
Boston’s Claude Julien is guaranteed a spot by virtue of the Bruins winning the Stanley Cup in 2011. Julien will be joined by his assistants in Boston, while Tortorella and either Vigneault or McLellan will coach the other team.
Ahahahahahahahahaha, oh wow.
This stuff out of Boston is too good. Nope, don’t accept any responsibility or anything… You’re right Chiarelli, those evil Canucks are launching a PROPAGANDA campaign. As if that’s needed to make people dislike Brad Marchand. I don’t think Julien even knows what he’s talking about anymore.
It really is a shame to see Dan Shaughnessy well… I’m not going to bother talking about that any more. As a RedSox fan, I consider myself much more versed in Boston media than the average Vancouverite, and I’m finding it very difficult to keep reading these guys. Anybody who knows who Bill Laimbeer or A-Rod are knows just how ridiculous that comparison is, and it was nice to see Shaughnessy gleefully celebrate Salo getting a concussion.
Hey, does anyone remember what the reaction was out of Julien, Chiarelli, and Boston media when Savard got concussed? Hm…….
I did find the "propaganda"
quote pretty rich from a guy that used the exact thing to work the biggest suspention in Finals history.
“Severe” concussion my ass. Mother Teresa must have laid hands on then, for a guy so afflicted to be in the crowd two days later, whooping it up, and on a plane and on the ice for Game 7 practices.
Thanks Pete…reminded me that it is not just the media in that town that sling the shit…
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During the finals...
I was almost more offended by the liberal use of “severe concussion”. For them to diagnose a guy who is out for a week as having a severe concussion is kind of.. disrespectful, I think, to the likes of Mueller, Perron, Crosby, Staal, SAVARD, etc… But this is just fantastic now. Bruins just embarrassing themselves on a national stage.
you know
I like to think I have moved on from the Finals, but that Nathan Horton BS from then is the one thing that can get me from 0-60 in no time flat.
Disrespectful, lying, and out and out wrong to use something that is there to protect players and use it to get a guy thrown out of the Finals.
Still grinds my gears!
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are you suggesting
he wasn’t concussed?
by Canuckelhead on Jan 9, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
I am suggesting that, as far as I know (not a Dr., so I could be wrong), there is no way to determine the severity of the concussion less than 24 hours after it was sustained. Which is what happened. And to claim it was a severe concussion, when he was cleared the day after game 7, is flat out false and there’s no way they could have known that. I do, however, believe he had a concussion. I’m not going to pull a Bruin and claim he was faking it.
He was laying on the ice
Looking into the abyss. Of course he wasn’t faking it I agree about judging the severity of it is just posturing. It’s my understanding that doctors can’t even judge that and as it turns out it wasn’t something that kept him out very long.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 9, 2012 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
Just to clarify.
I am in no way saying Horton was “faking it” or anything. That was a jab at the Bruins’ continued insistence that guys like Miller and Patches were “faking” their concussions. Horton was concussed, no doot aboot it. Just thought the way it was handled by the organization was very lame.
I was NOT saying he was not concussed
but by the NHL guidelines, and medical guidelines for concussions ( and they go from a Grade 1 to a Grade 3 or “severe” concussion )…a “severe” concussion should be treated with an entire week of no exertion, and staying away from flashing lights. Definitely no flights across country.
I am saying they used that to work a bigger suspension.
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Oh
Well that I can agree with. Although I don’t know that I have a huge problem with it. The problem for me would be with the NHL.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 9, 2012 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
the diagnosis
and designation came from the team. He was gone from everywhere until the suspension came down….and then in the crowd doing their “whoop it up” thing for Game 6, and THEN on the plane and rumoured to "maybe " start in Game 7.
That is all on the Bruins, and to hear them try and talk of “propaganda” after that is annoying, you know?
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Meh
propaganda or gamesmanship depending on your perspective. I’m sure teams in all sports have done much shadier stuff to win a championship.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 9, 2012 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
true dat
just because of that….does not mean it is not a little annoying.
“Meh” is right though!
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Meh to all of Boston
I can’t wait to be done with this game. It’s all gotten so repetitive and boring. I wish they would just announce the Marchand suspension already so we could get on with our hockey watching lives.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 9, 2012 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
Shanny
has a sense of the dramatic, thats for sure…
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I find myself
strangely conflicted. My hatred of all things Bruins has burned so strongly for these many months, and yet now – they are providing so much entertainment as they self-destruct in the media. How can I hate something that provides so much amusement?
by PeaceJo on Jan 9, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
There's this sickening photo from the Bruins game....
Sami is lying prone on the ice, Marchand is standing there looking like the cat that ate the canary, and above them are Bruins fans in the stands, almost all of whom have these gleeful smiles on their faces at the sight of a Canuck who is injured. Canucks fans have always applauded when an opposing player gets up and leaves the ice after a prolonged period of lying there, post collision. Fans of other teams show the same compassion as a group as well. Bruins fans? I’m guessing NO.
Hodgson on Hansen--
"I've never played with a guy who creates so many offensive turnovers.
I really enjoy playing with him."
Come on
This is getting out of control. Bruins fans as a whole are no more or less evil than the rest of the population. It was a heated game and a player just went ass over tea kettle. Like we haven’t cheered the exact same thing, especially in the last year. If Ballard had sent Horton over his hip we would have stood up and cheered our faces off and if he got up and threw his stick we would have laughed at him. I’m not making a comment about the hit itself, that was as dirty as they come. But, the rhetoric of these two fan bases is out of control.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 9, 2012 11:26 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
this
any one of us would have had the same smile on our face as it happened. When the severity of it came through, we probably would have changed our opinion and possibly even felt bad that we thought it so awesome. That close after a hit you can’t blame the fans for grinning. We all smiled and cheered when mitchell levelled toews as it happened… when he was looking braindead on the ice we all went ‘ohhh…shit, hope he’s ok’
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Too right.
So, let’s shut up about the Bruins, and focus on the Panthzzzzzzzzzzzzz………
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by Smoboy41 on Jan 9, 2012 12:26 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
VOR this.
I won’t lie. When Rome levelled Horton in the SCF, I loved it. I thought he was late, I thought he was going to get a penalty, and it killed my joy a bit, but I was really happy to see a Bruin get levelled. But I wouldn’t want Horton to suffer a long-term injury like he did, and that was the “Oh Shit,,, hope he isn’t hurt too badly” phase that Twitchy mentioned.
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I'm torn
I know the photo you are talking about, and as a Sami fan – it looks bad. But I don’t think those fans would not have had the perspective to see Salo on the ice – just that a hit had gone down. And while I think most of us knew something was off with Salo when he got up like that – I doubt the Bruin fans know him well enough to know how out of character that was. I thought concussion as soon as I saw how he behaved – but to an outsider – it probably just looked like he was upset.
However – after the “flopper” debacle last year with MayRay, I would hope they had a bit more compassion they next time an opposing team’s player is down like that …
What I found quite strange – the Boston commentators did not once mention Salo was down/injured/hurt – nothing. They completely ignored the fact he was down on the ice, that the trainer came out, that he threw his stick – all of it. No expression of concern at all. It was all about the rat. Even on the replays – did not refer to Salo or a potential injury once. It was bizarre.
So, just to recap
the last 3 games with Boston.
During these three games, we lost Salo, Ebbett, and Raymond with very serious injuries: broken spine, broken collar-bone, and concussion.
Can anybody believe that Boston is not clearly playing to injure? Shouldn’t somebody draw the attention of the NHL, in case they haven’t noticed it?
And shuldn’t that prompt Shanahan to dish out the largest suspension allowable under these circumstances, to Marchant?
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I don’t think there’s an intent throughout the team to injure our guys. Marchand’s a douchebag: no doubt about it. The Ebbett hit, I thought is probably innocuous. A huge hit by Seidenberg, who’s known to deliver big hits. It’s unfortunate, more than anything. Raymond….. I shall reserve my thoughts on this. I’m still undecided whether he was a victim to ill will, or just unlucky circumstance.
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You're
probably right.
It’s just a strange coincidence, though. We have hard-fought and intense games with Chicago as well, but you don’t see nearly as many “accidents”
Too bad that we don’t play them at least twice in a regular season. I believe that the Canucks could learn and adapt to this kind of physical game. We don’t get these types of games here in the West, and that leaves us unprepared, when we meet them in the finals.
I want the Canucks to play the Bruins, Rangers, Flyers and similar types more often. That would give us a better idea about what it takes to to win it all.
Los Angeles, CA
I completely agree.
It seems like they’re starting to figure out how to play those teams now that we’ve done it a bit more.
As well, I agree on the comparison between Chi and Boston. I don’t think the Bruins, as a group, are necessarily trying to injure people, though given the way Lucic and Marchand play, I’d put them in that category.
It’s part of why I find it hard to truly hate the Blackhawks anymore. Toews, Bolland and Careerbomb are all annoying in their own way, but (for the most part) that team plays the game with a certain level of respect and dignity, and the matches between the two are more about quality hockey than whatever it is the Bruins try to do.
interesting
a google search of Marchand suspension brings up this preview:
Bruins’ Marchand gets XXX-game suspension for dirty Salo hit
The Province – 53 minutes ago
A telephone hearing assured it wouldn’t be stop-the-press news and when Brad Marchand was assessed a XXXXXX-game suspension Monday for his low-bridge hit that concussed Sami Salo on Saturday — the maximum allowed for that form of discussion with NHL
From Elliot Friedman and his 30 thoughts
“One of the reasons Brad Marchand will get suspended is that, with all of the concern about hits to the head, the NHL absolutely does not want “low-bridging” to creep back into the game. It’s so dangerous. "
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