Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Blake Griffin Slam Dunks: NBA Jam Style

Tuesday's Numbers: Do we REALLY know the Chicago Blackhawks?

Sure, he's good, but he isn't necessarily clutch.

It seems like we've really gotten to know the Chicago Blackhawks over the last few years, but how much do we really know the Chicago Blackhawks, man? Do we really know anybody? Do we have a mock-up of their powerplay and penalty kill structures, their breakout strategy, and know exactly the role that Joel Quenneville has for each of his players?

Do we know Patrick Kane's favourite movie?

I don't think we ever knew Chicago. Last year, they were an 8-seed against the 1-seed Vancouver Canucks and should have, by traditional measures, been a heavy underdog. The Hawks, however lucky they were to get into the playoffs based on them failing to win Game 82 to enter, we're also extremely unlucky to be on the edge. They were the 3rd best team in the league in Fenwick Tied, one spot ahead of the Canucks (who had the advantage in Corsi, if I recall correctly) and 7th in the NHL in goal differential.

Chicago, unfortunately for them, weren't higher in the standings simply because they apparently weren't clutch enough (that's a total lie, because clutch isn't an actual thing). They were 16-13-9 in one-goal games after being 25-9-8 a season before, dropping them from 6th to 25th in one-goal game winning percentage. Either clutch isn't a real thing, or the guys they lost after their Stanley Cup run were the real clutch guys.

Anyways.

Star-divide

What happened to Chicago in the playoffs was pretty well what happened to them over the full season. Despite Vancouver being dominant in the score-tied measure (Behind The Net has the Hawks at 41% during last season's playoffs, so the Canucks won that battle 59-41). But what really afflicted Chicago, again, was those damn close games. The Canucks took 3 of the 4 one-goal games after Chicago had won the only other one-goal game in recent playoff series history (2009's Game 4).

Pythagoras tells us that Chicago should have taken 5 of the 7 games in that series, and that Chicago ought to have won 47, not 44, games.

So, we know that Chicago was better than they were last year. This season, the one-goal games have evened out, and Chicago is 7th in the league and 4th, again, in Fenwick Tied. The other thing we can see is that, as a team with even strength, their opponents have stopped 90.9% of shots, giving them a 9.1% shooting percentage, and they've stopped 91.1%, which means their PDO (adding those numbers together) is 100.2%, so they're right around the league average. Where Chicago falters compared to their elite rivals is that their even strength save percentage runs at a pretty low rate. St. Louis, Nashville and Detroit have all gotten great goaltending this season, and Chicago's had a question mark in goal for the last several years. Despite winning a Cup, they've had six different starting goaltenders in four seasons.

Now, how have the Canucks played them? Well, quite well. Continuing from the 59-41 thrashing with the score-tied Fenwick measure from last year's playoff run, the Canucks this season have taken it to them in the two games they've played:

Events For Events Ag. Fenwick%
Vancouver 22 14 61.1%
Chicago 14 22 38.9%

It's just two games, but it's a continuation of the seven-game playoff series from last year. I don't have a way to tally up each event without parsing through the play-by-play charts, but I'm quite convinced that Vancouver has had Chicago's number since the 2010 second round series. So why have Chicago out-scored Vancouver 18-13 at even-strength in their last nine games? Because Vancouver has put 5.4% of the pucks past Chicago goalies.

Call it shot-quality or whatever you want, but no team only shoots 5.4% sustainably. If the Canucks continue to dominate the Hawks, this will turn around.

Tonight will be an interesting game. After all the crap we took around the time of the Boston game and the stupid side show that made hockey not fun for a while, it'll be nice to be able to return to a rivalry that means something, where the players respect each other enough to not break out into a fight every three seconds because TOUGHNESS.

Comment 16 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

So

Above average shooting, below average goaltending (except against Van at 5on5).

They kind of seem like Washington a few years ago, where the Caps just tried to out score their defensive problems.

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Jan 31, 2012 12:26 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions  

Or it's a function of playing an open game

susceptible to a lot of rushes. When you outshoot teams, it’s probably best to open up the play and try to get more quality shots both sides. The Canucks and Bruins do it (hence their high Sh%) but they also have the goaltending to keep the PDO over 101%.

Drop at line at The Backhand Shelf or any of the fine Nations Network blogs: Canucks Army, Jets Nation, The Leafs Nation

by camcharron on Jan 31, 2012 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

whoa Cam

Did you just say “quality shots”???

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Jan 31, 2012 12:50 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Well, you open the game up...

…you have more 2-on-1s. But you’re also giving up a lot of 2-on-1s. You can’t have an open game on offensive and a closed game on defense, which is usually a “shot quality” argument.

So if you have an average goaltender, and your team plays a wide open style that shoots 15%, damn straight your goalie is only stopping 85% of the shots behind the team.

Drop at line at The Backhand Shelf or any of the fine Nations Network blogs: Canucks Army, Jets Nation, The Leafs Nation

by camcharron on Jan 31, 2012 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Every smart Chicago fan knows this team is outscoring serious defensive issues.

And if those issues aren’t addressed, they won’t go far in the playoffs.

Blackhawks bleed Red & White.
Nothing is true. All is permitted.
SBNation will only let me choose one favorite team.

by mhsilver on Jan 31, 2012 1:32 PM PST reply actions  

Why?

They are outscoring the defensive issues. All you should care about is winning, who cares if it’s 6-4 or 2-1?

Drop at line at The Backhand Shelf or any of the fine Nations Network blogs: Canucks Army, Jets Nation, The Leafs Nation

by camcharron on Jan 31, 2012 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Could be wrong on this, haven't looked at any numbers...

But it seems to be a lot tougher to score 5-6 goals in the playoffs than it does in the regular season.

by RogerFenway on Jan 31, 2012 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I think what he is trying to say is that we need to fix our D issues

so we don’t have to worry so much about scoring – that bit us hard last year

SCH moderator. I'm the nice one. Really, I am. (you can quit laughing now)

by stacie7 on Jan 31, 2012 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Goal scoring declines in the playoffs.

And it’s one thing to feast on weak pacific and northwestern divisions and ride a hot home record, but once you’re playing 7-game series against the league’s best, simply counting on goal-scoring talent to make up for stupid, lazy, or sloppy defensive play is a BAD strategy.

Blackhawks bleed Red & White.
Nothing is true. All is permitted.
SBNation will only let me choose one favorite team.

by mhsilver on Jan 31, 2012 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice post, but I'll quibble with the following:
Continuing from the 59-41 thrashing with the score-tied Fenwick measure from last year’s playoff run, the Canucks this season have taken it to them in the two games they’ve played:

Both of those games were shitshows, so only 40 minutes total were played with the score tied, and even less of that was even strength. Wouldn’t put too much stock in that.

by zacked on Jan 31, 2012 2:31 PM PST reply actions  

yes but that's the point

when the score IS tied, who’s playing better? The point of counting that Metric is that it gives the best head to head comparison of how teams are playing, since the scales are equal at that point.

<3 Boobies!
notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal

by Canuckles on Jan 31, 2012 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

"Sure, he's good, but he isn't necessarily clutch."

Are you talking about the guy who tied with a short-handed goal a playoff Game 7 with two minutes left in regulation ? Really ?

by Burt N. on Jan 31, 2012 3:01 PM PST reply actions  

Cam is making fun of the concept of clutch, not Toews. He doesn’t believe in it.

by Wisp on Jan 31, 2012 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Burrows must be pretty fucking clutch too right?

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Feb 1, 2012 6:06 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Sooooo clutch

Although isn’t he the guy who only scored empty net goals in the playoffs until last year?

Drop at line at The Backhand Shelf or any of the fine Nations Network blogs: Canucks Army, Jets Nation, The Leafs Nation

by camcharron on Feb 1, 2012 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Welcome to the Nucks Misconduct community! We scour the web to promptly bring you all of the Vancouver Canucks news when it happens in highly-opinionated fashion.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recent FanPosts

Small
AV is back, will he last long?
P5205184_small
You just can't make this stuff up!  Vigneault-Kesler-Gillis-Luongo
Elmo1_small
The Role of the Coach
Small
I had a dream
Small
Sell High on Hansen?
Small
If Vigneault Does Not Return?
Dsc01373_small
Let's Stop Maligning the President's Trophy
Small
Luongo? Schneider? How about trade both?
Elmo1_small
Many issues wrapped into one…
Small
Individual Canuck Projections

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >

Nucks Misconduct Store

Nmstore_thumb_medium
Your clothing sucks. Go fix it.

Canucks Stats

Stat

Forwards

Defense

Points

H. Sedin (72)

Edler (45)

Goals

D. Sedin (30)

Edler (11)

Assists

H. Sedin (59)

Edler (34)

Shots

D. Sedin (229)

Edler (212)

Hits

Lapierre (217)

Bieksa (148)

Blocked Shots

Kesler (56)

Edler (120)

ES TOI/G

D. Sedin (14.46)

Bieksa (18.22)

PP TOI/G

D. Sedin (3.21)

Edler (3.25)

PK TOI/G

Malhotra (2.42)

Hamhuis (2.88)

Corsi Rel QoC

Pahlsson (1.008)

Bieksa (0.875)

Zone Starts (OPCT)

D. Sedin (80%)
Malhotra (12%)

Edler (58%)
Alberts (40%)

Updated: March 24


Bartenders

Jasonmask_small Yankee Canuck

Stfulou_small Sean Zandberg

Keslerbomb2_small Kent Basky

Pub Regulars

Edlermirrorreversed_small missy

Rnxbd00z_small vancitydan

Img_8090_small nucksandpucks

Screen_shot_2011-11-27_at_11 Jordan Clarke

299352_525780999561_106000039_30560322_1772728798_n_small Ggooglyboogly

4-eyes_small DanTheStatMan1