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Morning Buzz: Mini-sticks and sick dangles; recapping All-Star Weekend

Henrik Sedin runs out of room, gets confused, passes it to the net.

That's a wrap on All-Star Weekend, a healthy mix of awkward, entertaining, embarrassing and hilarious, with some memorable moments sprinkled here and there. Mostly, it felt like a victory lap for Daniel Alfredsson and the great career he's had in Ottawa. Everyone wanted to see him score that hat-trick goal and take home the MVP (except Tim Thomas, who made a few big saves in the 3rd and has now pissed off people in two national capitals in one week).

Links from the weekend's festivities and more ahead!

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Vancouver Canucks News & Notes

The ASG was not without its share of Sedinery. Take a look:


Joey the Junior Reporter was let loose on All-Star Weekend, and he spoke with the Sedins amongst others. [PITB]


Remember when Tim Thomas laid out Henrik Sedin in his crease in last year's SCF? Well it may have taken 7 months, but Henrik got his revenge (I think).

The stats for our All-Stars: Henrik tied for his team lead with 3 points, Daniel had 2, and Edler finished with the goose egg, despite playing the 3rd most minutes of any player in the game. Cody Hodgson was completely invisible out there. [Boxscore]

I think we can say that they held their own pretty well. [The White Towel]

Travis Moen appears to be a depth target for the Canucks. Here Thomas Drance breaks down his interesting underlying stats. [PITB]

Sportsnet's Mark Spector claims that Manny Malhotra could be on the move because Cody Hodgson has stoled his job. Anyone who has even glanced at Canucks zonestart data knows this isn't true, and Jonathan Willis explains. [Canucks Army]

He has supposedly lost his job taking defensive zone draws, killing penalties and winning faceoffs to Cody Hodgson, who a) doesn't take defensive zone draws b) doesn't kill penalties and c) doesn't win faceoffs.

Today in Canucks History

[Jan 30, 1992] The Canucks defeat Chicago 4-1 at home to post the first winning record (7-3-1) in the month of January in club history.

NHL News & Notes

Fun stats from the ASG: Chara and Campbell were +7; Yandle, Michalek, and Spezza were -5. [Boxscore]

The highlight of the night had to be Alfredsson undressing Suter and Timonen and scoring on Price, with Scott Hartnell doing the play-by-play:


Adrian Dater believes the All-Star Game has lost its appeal because today's superstars are overexposed. [Denver Post] I didn't see his point, until I saw Brian Campbell's ballsack...

What's that? Oh, yeah, as of this writing Getty Images has Campbell's berries on display for all to see. I'm sure you won't have to look hard to find it. [Puck Daddy]

All-Star weekend offered the opportunity for the NHL to showcase some of its more interesting personalities, one of them being Carey Price, who has reemerged as one of the league's best goalies after an up-and-down start to his career. [Backhand Shelf]

About 5 seconds after I tweeted that the NHL needed Dwight Howard and his Superman cape to save the ailing breakaway challenge, Patrick Kane answers the bell.


The second highlight of the challenge was undoubtably Corey Perry's mini-stick. Between that and Campbell's shirtcock, it was a tremendous weekend for headline writers and bloggers alike.


Victoria boy Jamie Benn took advantage of his opportunity to showcase his skills over the weekend. [Sporting News]

Here's his winning round in the accuracy shooting competition:


Apparently if he had the choice, Jason Pominville would take no one from either All-Star team on the Sabres. This almost echoes what Ryan Miller said last week about no trade helping their team. Very odd. [PHT]

It was announced over the weekend that Columbus will be the destination for next year's All-Star Game. [National Post]

It was reported on Saturday by Sportsnet's Bob McCown that Sidney Crosby has previously undiagnosed injuries to his C1 and C2 verebrae. The good news: it's treatable and he should return before the playoffs. The bad news: he's not happy with Pittsburgh medical staff. How does an injury like that get missed? [Sporting News]

The Fame Makers stopped by the Los Angeles Kings' practise facility to help team Mike Richards, Anze Kopitar, Matt Greene and Drew Doughty how to be famous. [Puck Daddy] Take a look:


Today in NHL History

[Jan 30, 1920] Quebec's Joe Malone sets NHL record of 7 goals in a game.

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Thank gad the All Star stuff is over with. I wanna see some Canucks hockey.

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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 30, 2012 11:35 AM PST reply actions  

Agree 100%

I think the lack of discussion today shows that most are sick of hearing about it!

by Jordan Clarke on Jan 30, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

However, I did enjoy the skillz competition

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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 30, 2012 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Things I learned from the all star game

1) Brian Elliot is riding the trap in St Louis. Can people stop praising him now? Cory Perry scored a goal on him with a stick the length of a stapler and he surrendered twice as many goals as any other goalie in the game
2) Tim Thomas IS a lone wolf in Boston. He didn’t seem to have blood hatred for Daniel or Henrik, laughing it up with both of them and even hugging Henrik in the third period
3) Scott Hartnell = win, on just so many levels
4) Daniel and Henrik have earned a lot of respect in the league. “Sedin goal” is apparently part of an NHL player’s vocab
5) Henrik Lundquist is one of the most likeable hockey players I`ve ever seen who doesn`t play for the Canucks
6) Joey the junior reporter has more journalistic skill and integrity than the entire MSM combined

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by Canuckles on Jan 30, 2012 12:02 PM PST reply actions  

2) Tim Thomas IS a lone wolf in Boston. He didn’t seem to have blood hatred for Daniel or Henrik, laughing it up with both of them and even hugging Henrik in the third period

See this is why I don’t give 2 shits about his political stance or his aggression in the net. He seems like a cool guy, and joking it up with the Twins is just proof that the media has a harder time getting over shit than the players do.

Oh and today Chiarelli completely shot down any rumors of Thomas being traded. Naturally. The whole angle of his non White House stance causing rift was such fabricated BS.

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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 30, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

personally speaking, I think Boston MAY trade Thomas in the off season

but because they think they can win with Rask and a lesser backup, but make their team overall better and because of his expiring contract. Not because of any other reason at all.

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by Canuckles on Jan 30, 2012 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

The B’s are gonna win another Stanley Cup this year and then Timmay is gonna retire.

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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 30, 2012 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

don't say that

please

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by Canuckles on Jan 30, 2012 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

SOMEONE GET THE BANHAMMER!!

Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.

by Jevant on Jan 30, 2012 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

dude

Sean IS the banhammer.

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by missy on Jan 30, 2012 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

The conch is MINE, bitches! Muahaha

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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 30, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s the joke ;)

Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.

by Jevant on Jan 30, 2012 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Not gonna happen. We’re going to stop them.

by Wisp on Jan 30, 2012 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I hate to agree with you

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Jan 30, 2012 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

THEN DON'T

GOSH. What is WRONG with you people today?

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by Canuckles on Jan 30, 2012 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Glad I got your blood boiling a bit. I wouldn’t say I was serious about what I said about the Bruins. BUT, if the Bruins would win the Cup again my guess is that Timmy would hang them up.

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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 30, 2012 8:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe

Sure, they’re are one of the favorites but they’re no powerhouse and they could just as easily lose in the first round. Besides I think the best goalie in the world plays for the Rangers this season.

by Canuckelhead on Jan 30, 2012 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

and last season. And the season before

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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 30, 2012 8:09 PM PST up reply actions  

but the team in front of him

is a lot better now

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by Canuckles on Jan 31, 2012 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Wake me tomorrow when hockey is back.

I’m getting withdrawal shakes.

- '94 was epic. Nothing but a cup will make me change my name. Kill the bird!

by canuck94 on Jan 30, 2012 12:02 PM PST reply actions  

Hey Jordan

how did you write your morning buzz the day after the all star game without a single reference to “suck it Phaneuf” ???

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by Canuckles on Jan 30, 2012 12:07 PM PST reply actions  

haha! This is true! Is there any video of that out there?

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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 30, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

all over the place!

part of the highlights of Henrik’s goal

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by Canuckles on Jan 30, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

As you can tell I wasn't paying too much attention

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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 30, 2012 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha! “That was a true Sedin goal. Tick tack toe…..SUCK IT PHANEUF”

awesome. Thanks for the link

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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 30, 2012 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

the sedin triplets!

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by Canuckles on Jan 30, 2012 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah

I’m starting to realize I missed a lot of stuff, including Chara’s 108.8 MPH clapper.

by Jordan Clarke on Jan 30, 2012 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Jamie Benn…now there is a heck of a hockey player

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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 30, 2012 12:14 PM PST reply actions  

Sooo....

Can we please get Hartnell? Somehow? Any way?

by RogerFenway on Jan 30, 2012 12:14 PM PST reply actions  

yeah

no

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by Canuckles on Jan 30, 2012 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

he’s $4.2m per year until end of 2013, and has some form of NTC/NMC according to capgeek.

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by missy on Jan 30, 2012 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Plus

He’s the heart of the flyers.

by Canuckelhead on Jan 30, 2012 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

If Bryzgalov keeps sucking/driving his teammates insane, ginger trade?

by Wisp on Jan 30, 2012 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

if Bryz is having trouble in Philly, what makes you think he’d survive Van?

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by missy on Jan 30, 2012 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

If we can sign him

and just let him talk to the media but not actually play, I’m all for it. With all the weed and psychedelics in Vancouver, Bryz would love it.

by RogerFenway on Jan 30, 2012 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Dude doesn’t even drink alcohol. I doubt he’ll partake.

by sunshine and lollipops on Jan 30, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Well at the very least I’m sure he’ll fine more than a few folks willing to join him in discussions about the universe…

by RogerFenway on Jan 30, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

WHOAH.

I don’t want Bryzgalov. I want Schneider for Hartnell.

They can find another sucker for Bryz.

by Wisp on Jan 30, 2012 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Annnd

He’s the rare combo of size and skill that everyone in the NHL is looking for.

by Canuckelhead on Jan 30, 2012 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Rec'd

like every goaltender who passes through Philly’s career

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by Canuckles on Jan 30, 2012 4:14 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

And everyone who has passed through Vancouver in recent years, until very recently. And yet we are constantly trying to get rid of them.

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by Jevant on Jan 31, 2012 6:46 AM PST up reply actions  

haha yeah

I’m just saying, we can mock since our graveyard is dead

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by Canuckles on Jan 31, 2012 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Except

I have a hunch that the problems in Philly aren’t actually in goal. There’s a reason Bryz started looking bad around the time pronged went down and the fact that we have two great goalies is only partly due to the fact that they are both talented. In short I think size that can play is more valuable than a goalie who’s looked food on a great team.

by Canuckelhead on Jan 30, 2012 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

goalies looking food

is always overrated

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by Canuckles on Jan 31, 2012 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

So.....

we sign him at the end of 2013?

by RogerFenway on Jan 30, 2012 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

How could an injury like that be missed?

We don’t even really know what the doctors thought or think his injuries were or are, other than what is stated in comments like these in the Montreal Gazette (the capitals are mine):
"Crosby’s agent, Pat Brisson, said the injuries were POSSIBLE fractures"
""Dr. Bray reports that the neck injury is fully healed. Those findings will be evaluated by independent specialists over the next few days."

Rather than ask how could the team doctors miss fractures (when in fact it may be Dr. Bray’s opinion that is not correct), why not ask how Dr. Bray knows that whatever it is that he observed was the result of Crosby’s recent injuries rather than some past injury? Or, if he had fractures, given the type (which must be obscure for the initial doctors, both medical and chiropractice that Crosby was seeing not ot have diagnosed them) would the treatment have been any different? Or, why not ask, if the injury is indeed fully healed, why is Crosby still having symptoms? Of course these questions won’t stir up controversy in an attempt to increase online readership or sell more newspapers so no one asks them, although they are far more important from Crosby’s point of view, and thus the hockey fans who hope to see him play again.

I feel sorry for Crosby, and all the people who have had neck injuries who continue to have symptoms the basis for which multiple doctors have different opinions. There’s lots that goes on in our bodies that modern medical science cannot explain.

by VBS6935 on Jan 30, 2012 12:27 PM PST reply actions  

FYI a little info

OK. Fractures are diagnosed through the use of x-rays, et al. Some fractures can be missed by less experienced radiologists. Some x-rays require specialist radiologists to read them. Older healed fractures can be distinguished from newer healing/healed fractures by the bone growth. The vertebrae are difficult to visulaize. Angles etc can play important roles in “seeing” the fracture. Plus there may be swelling of soft tissue obscuring the pictures. AND maybe the fractures were “hairline” meaning not as dangerous or traumatic to his neck as they could be.

Not only bones are involved in fractures. Soft tissue damage includes muscles, tendons and maybe nerves. Swelling places pressure on nerves. I had a mild whiplash from a car accident in which I lost my balance for a while and suffered headaches. No fractures (that I know of). Muscles, tendons and nerves take a while to heal. Symptoms can last for a while.

I am a retired RN and this is just kind of basic info for you guys not a medical treatise. Sidney is from my home province and well loved back East. I wish him well.

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by canf on Jan 31, 2012 1:29 AM PST up reply actions  

rabblerabblerabble

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by Kent Basky on Jan 30, 2012 12:28 PM PST reply actions  

C,mon

I get where the guys were coming from who wrote the counter piece but they kinda missed the point. COHO is playing the third line center where Manny would have played before his injury, thus taking his job. I get that Malhlotra is a valuable defensive specialist now, but that’s not what Spector was talking about and everyone coming out of the blogging world to pile on and say “see he’s wrong , he knows nothing about the Canucks” just ends up looking bratty.

by Canuckelhead on Jan 30, 2012 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

that’s probably why Kent put “rabblerabblerabble” in the subject line….

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by missy on Jan 30, 2012 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought it was implying Spector is a rabble-rouser

All Spector said in his article was that Manny might be expendable now with the emergence of Hodgson and that he might be one of the only peices we could move to get defensive depth and he’s absolutely right. Then all the stat heads go crazy about manny’s zone starts etc. and prove him right about one thing, Vancouver fans are a bit spazy since he never even implied Manny had no value. In fact, he was suggesting he did have value but if all he does is win faceoffs and skate off like the stat heads say wouldn’t we be better off with defensive depth like Spector suggested?

by Canuckelhead on Jan 30, 2012 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Did you know the stats guy who wrote the counter point to Spector is actually from Edmonton and usually covers the Oilers? As is Tyler Dellow who promoted the article?

How does that prove Vancouver are are spazzy?

Hodgson only stole Malhotra’s job in the strictest of senses – in that on a chart there is a line with 3 written on it with Hodgson’s name in the center. Malhotra’s still doing what he was signed for.

by Wisp on Jan 30, 2012 9:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually no

Malholtra is not doing what he was signed for. He was signed to be a third line center and contibute offensively. Now he’s a specialist in the strictest sense and therefore expendable, in my opinion, if it means getting defensive depth. That was all Spector suggested and people jumped all over him.

by Canuckelhead on Jan 31, 2012 12:08 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Nope

The Spector article was right only in the most specious sense. Like, the number of the line.

He was signed to win faceoffs and be a leader. He was never signed as an offensive threat.

All that has happened with the rise of Hodgson is that Money has been pushed into one side more than the other by the fact that the team is deeper with Cody being far more skilled offensively.

No offense to you, but I am getting really sick of people deeming one of the best defensive forwards, and one of the best draw guys as “expendable”.

To say its to get defensive depth is ridiculous. The man is more important to the defense than any depth defenseman. You do know what happens when he wins those 63% of the draws …mostly in his own end right?

Most the time the puck is out. Thats the whole point.

No one “jumped all over” Spector, mon frere. They pointed that very salient point, and were talked down to by Mr Spector, because he was wrong.

He was wrong.

So, sorry bud, but Wisp is right. Only in the most strict od senses has he “replaced” anyone.

I do challenge you to show me any clip from any article when Malhotra signed where he was going to “contribute offensively” and I will apologize.

Hell. when he signed, the talk was being sure that he could shift to the wing to play with Cody FFS!

They knew what they were getting, and I know Manny can contribute a little offensively. But that was never a selling point on him signing here, compared to his defensive skills and leadership.

Manny does a very tough job very well, and I will , for the life of me, never understand how come some folks call him “washed up” and ready for the scrap heap!

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by vancitydan on Jan 31, 2012 3:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow

You might wanna read the article in question before piling on. Spector was writing about the Canucks need for defensive depth, that’s it. Are you telling me that you disagree with that? Cause it seems to be pretty common knowledge around here. He mentioned one of the way’s for the Canucks to acquire defensive depth would be to trade Malhlotra because contrary to what you might think, other GM’s expect something of value in return. That was my only point in defending him but you just seem to wanna do what everyone else did, which is run to Manny’s defense. Here’s the thing, I’m not interested in arguing about Malholtra’s value, I get that he has value and I agree. Completely. One other thing, Im not sure if you’re trying to make it friendly but the “mon frer’s” and “bud’s” come across as a little condescending.

by Canuckelhead on Jan 31, 2012 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Jesus Christ dude

I thought we were getting to a good place, and then you revert right back to type.

Fine. Are you telling me that I am the kind that would comment on the article without reading it? I read it just fine.

The “defensive depth” and the fact that Manny has lost his job to Cody are two entirely different things. So, don’t try to obfuscate and bullshit.

Thats not what the article said that anyone is posting here with a problem against, and you know it.

For fucks sake, if you want to have a discussion around here, its better when you just take the others ideas and then respond without the condescending bullshit. The fact that you could trade Manny for a defenseman as an argument is ridiculous. You could trade Raymond, Booth, or anyone one else if you so desired.

Glad you see Manny;‘s value, but if you want to have discussions dude, its called give and take. I could care less if you took offense with trying to be nice to you, because, honestly, its easier to have a conversation with you without the attitude that suddenly jumps out above, but here it is…if I don’t throw in the things like “My friend” or whatever else, you jump down the throat and take offense. Now you are taking offense at trying to be nice?

Fine, consider that tact in the past.

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by vancitydan on Jan 31, 2012 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

If i took it wrong my bad

I thought the “mon frers” were meant to be condescending, if not my bad. The article in question is here. As you can see, it’s one sentence in the whole big chunk that people are taking issue with. Most of it dealt with how the Canucks need defensive depth at the trade deadline. He didn’t mention Raymond and Booth, probably because he doesn’t think they have enough value to fetch the kind of Dman the Canucks need i.e. Luke Schenn.

by Canuckelhead on Jan 31, 2012 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Ps

I can’t believe I’m defending him. I hate the guy.

by Canuckelhead on Jan 31, 2012 12:15 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Sorry, but I can't agree

He’s very literally taken the third line centre’s job. But Manny’s role in the team, taking defensive draws and playing tough minutes against quality competition, shutting them down and moving the puck forward, is still Manny’s and an important role. He’s just doing it from the “4th line” now. I can’t agree that he’s become expendable either. He plays the hardest assignments and does a great job. Those stats about his zone starts and qualcomp babble babble babble are useful because they show just how important his role on this team is. He’s doing a great job protecting his own end and enabling the offensive stars on the team (including hodgson) to play in situations where they can score.

In a sense, Spector’s right: he’s taken Manny’s offensive duties, but, I mean, really? That makes him expendable? Relying on Manny Malhotra for scoring is about as smart as relying on Bryzgalov for sanity. The Canucks didn’t bring him in because he was second coming of Wayne Gretzky. They brought him to do what he is doing right now; shut down the opposition.

Manny is a key component to their defensive depth, playing as one of the leagues best shutdown/defensive specialists. I don’t see the Canucks trading him for “depth” though if he was demanded for a stud maybe and provided his NMC allows it.

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by Canuckles on Jan 31, 2012 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

BTW, Tim Gleason’s off the market (presumably). Weak sauce.

by Passive Voice on Jan 30, 2012 5:14 PM PST reply actions  

interesting...
patersonjeff Jeff Paterson
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by Kent Basky on Jan 30, 2012 5:30 PM PST reply actions  

Apparently Schneider is gonna start tomorrow

Since he was able to workout through the all-star break because he didn’t have family commitments. Still an interesting choice and I’m sure will spark some discussion.

by Canuckelhead on Jan 30, 2012 5:32 PM PST reply actions  

groan

it makes perfect sense. I just look at it as a sign that a) Lui has been playing well so b) Schneider hasn’t been playing much and needs to get some games in c) The Canucks trust him enough to put him in at home and against Chicago and thus d) They let Lui spend some time with the family and take a rest so he wouldn’t have to come back right away.

Nothing more. Can the universe please end the controversy now.

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by Canuckles on Jan 31, 2012 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Joey, to Henrik: Which one are you?

That kids a winner.

And yeah, I’m sick of this non-hockey period. I almost cracked and watched basketball. Yuck.

They once made a Kevin Bieksa toilet paper, but it wouldn't take shit from anybody.

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by raincity on Jan 30, 2012 6:38 PM PST reply actions  

You must read this

If you’re a hockey fan and you visit this blog you have to read this, agree or not I think it should give everyone pause. It’s a bit long winded and reeks of self importance but well worth the time.
http://www.theagentsofchange.com/2012/01/ritch-responds-press.html

by Canuckelhead on Jan 30, 2012 8:10 PM PST reply actions  

P.S.

It’s written by Coho’s agent and talks a bit about the Canucks.

by Canuckelhead on Jan 30, 2012 8:11 PM PST up reply actions  

PSA

It may take you like an hour to read and digest and comprehend the stream of consciousness rambling

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Jan 30, 2012 8:17 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah it is really long and a bit rambling

a few decent points but quite rambling lol

Go Canucks Go!

by BW79 on Jan 30, 2012 9:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I’d been reading for an eternity and saw my little blue scrolly button thing was halfway down the page and so I bailed.

by Passive Voice on Jan 30, 2012 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Unrelated: I can’t imagine a better name for a hockey agent than “Ritch Winter”.

by Passive Voice on Jan 30, 2012 9:50 PM PST up reply actions  

my take

while it’s a cool thing to get an agent’s take on things, was this war and peace of blog posts necessary? especially when you factor in that Winter completely misses the fact that Wagner is in fact a blogger and not part of the Sun’s staff. Honest mistake though, they should really label the whole PITB as a blog. The scary thing? He talks about being so busy… I shudder to think what he would have wrote with time to kill…

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by Kent Basky on Jan 30, 2012 9:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Lord is it ever ramble-y. But very interesting.

He really roasts Wagner. On the one hand, I want to defend PITB, because they do alot of good work, but that particular post he refers to was not Wagner’s finest work. The guy has a point. And blogs are growing in influence…if you are attached to a newspaper, as PITB is, you probably should call the source before writing that kind of post. Doesn’t help that Wagner’s main reference in that article was old crazypants Gallagher.

This made me Lol:

In fact, every time Tony and I speak I am surprised at how much angst Cody’s ice-time is causing him.

Yep, that sounds like TG.

They once made a Kevin Bieksa toilet paper, but it wouldn't take shit from anybody.

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by raincity on Jan 30, 2012 9:03 PM PST up reply actions  

3. “Management folks” seem to really, really lead reporters astray according to Winter; thank goodness player agents never do.

Heh.

They once made a Kevin Bieksa toilet paper, but it wouldn't take shit from anybody.

#37 Ryp

by raincity on Jan 30, 2012 9:14 PM PST up reply actions  

the issue here

is that Winter is saying PITB is on the same playing field as the guys who get paid to write for the Sun. It’s so mind boggling that he doesn’t understand this is wrong. Guys & guys like those who write for PITB, Canucks Army, LOB and some blog called Nucks somethinorother… we would love to be on a level playing field as far as access to the team. So for Winter to attack Wagner and not only misconstrue and misrepresent his post and even go so far as to decree that reporters exhibiting clear bias be called ‘The Wagner Effect’ is lunacy. On the one hand, it’s always a compliment (IMO) to be compared to a journalist. When one considers your work equal to those who make their living at these, it’s a good thing. But implying that the biases of reporters are the same as bloggers (and yes, we have them… we all have them) is wrong. And it’s all because of things like access and money. It doesn’t necessarily mean all journalists have sold out or that bloggers are the gospel truth. What it does mean is that there are certain biases that bloggers usually don’t have because of the situations we don’t find ourselves in. Very few of us will ever get stared down by a GM. Or an owner. Hell, even a player. It gives us a bit of freedom, even if we tend to be a bit naive about what goes on behind the scenes. It’s their access that plays a role in shaping their biases, and our lack thereof that helps shape ours.

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by Kent Basky on Jan 30, 2012 10:38 PM PST up reply actions  

To be fair

When a “blogger” is hired by a newspaper to write that line gets a little fuzzy.

by Canuckelhead on Jan 31, 2012 12:11 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

That’s really what I took from that whole thing. That the line between blogger and reporter is getting increasingly thin. As reporters get increasingly shorter deadlines to meet the publics need for information as it happens and as blogs start to make more money that line will eventually become invisible.

by Canuckelhead on Jan 31, 2012 12:14 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

'hired'

is even fuzzier if the person isn’t getting paid for it.

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by Kent Basky on Jan 31, 2012 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

You know better than me

But I assumed the PITB people were paid by the sun. The response from today seems to indicate they are. That response is perfectly put btw.

by Canuckelhead on Jan 31, 2012 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  


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