#EmbraceTheHate ; ASG Corporate Schmooze Edition
In the orgy of sports coverage that has enveloped those of us of the hockey persuasion, there has been a veritable feast of things to follow these last couple days. Starting with a somewhat underreported story of an NHL goalie and his President, (when is the last time the NHL got in the Christian Science Monitor?) and basically gathering steam, its been glorious for hockey fanatics.
There have been a few things to come out of media day today. Ryan Suter stating on the record for the first time that he was not going to talk contract and play hockey at the same time was fuel for rostabatory fantasies in many a market. ( though, in a classic case of burying the lede was the news that the Ying to Suter's Yang Shea Weber had basically said the same thing a long time ago...being an RFA its slightly different, but he also will not be talking about $$$ and sense during a stretch run. )
There's Gary and his views, Big Bad Don and his "getting to know you" meeting with 28 superstars of the game. It is a corporate event, after all. When you get everyone together and every puck media person from across North America, its expected.
But buried in all that was a very solid interview with one Daniel Sedin by James Cybulski and Co on TSN Radio Toronto. More on that ( and more!) after the break.
The guys got right from the brother joke to the whole Boston / Vancouver rivalry thing. Daniel was his usual polite self, but then the Co' today asked a great question about the Wings model. The answer was honest and solid, and its so cool to see how confident Daniel sounds about things. His immediate follow up answer about his coach doing a "great job" was solid too. Don't forget, these are two pretty smart guys, in addition to being the Deluxe Sedinerie Wizards and all around great guys we know them to be.
It does not matter, really, what people think of them, where they were picked, or whatever Alyonka Larionov was trying to say about them here...
@AlyonkaLarionovAlyonka Larionov @KMaximick I think it a compliment. Women are beautiful & gentle & have grace. That is the Sedin's style of hockey. If u think it's negative
It is the above sentiment that I know pisses off Canuck fans, but what can you do? I tried to understand where she was coming from, but there is no "feminine style" in the NHL. I respect the hell out of women's hockey, but the follow up to earlier "Sedin Sisters" comments on OTR was the clue to the above.
Cylbuski ( best thing you can say about a guy in that business is I want to see more of him. I am saying that about the one time West Coaster. ) of course did not go down that road, but I did like the way he asked about the "Marchand Incident". His point about star players was not lost on this Canuck aficionado, and Daniel's answer about it being something that occurs when the score is that way was a variation on the "damned if you do, damned if you don't", and really, the way TSN and others use that one incident to describe a seven game series that was intense and wonderful, terrible and profound every damn shift is just plain old wrong. I do understand that it is a pretty provocative image to sum up that storyline, but it is still annoying.
It was a great series that has rightly became memorable. Whatever your views on the two teams this year or before, after that series made every Bruins game to come must see TV, It expanded the view of the team and the already impressive and far flung reach of Canucks Nation. I am more than OK with how this team got so close, and feel pretty good about their chances this year. Perhaps they finally win that silvery chalice and put the doubts and haters to rest ( though, I guarantee that, in the joyous summer that would follow, someone calls TEAM with a Luongo trade proposal).
Like Peter Parker learned, with "great power comes great responsibility". There is a lesson for we the fans in there somewhere as well. I am spoiled by the fine folks here at SBN anyhow, where the level of discourse is at a more ( most the time...) "learned" level. But it sounds like the team, at least, is not even thinking of last year, and is focussed solely on this year, if I may be so bold as to shamelessly dissect Daniels words for my own rationalization.
In any case, Daniel did not take the bait any more than "playing whistle to whistle". The money question for Leaf fans came next, as James tried to give his Leafs fans a sop with the question about Burkey being in Sweden on his trip to snag a "Monster", but Daniel did not take the bait at all. "Vancouver is my home" is a phrase a lot of us have said, at one time or another, and it sure drove home for me how lucky we are to have these two guys. " As long as they showed they wanted us". For 6 mil a year. Two identical superstars, Art Ross winners and Lindsay and Hart trophy winners and / finalists. So glad that "wanting us" was worth only 6.1 mil a year.
Sounds like Alfredsson is going to be their line mate, or at least that the Twins would like that. I know I saw Alfie on the NHLN answer the query reciprocally, so we'll see. Listen to the rest, as they delve into the media scrutiny, favorite "Triplets",(Carter and Klatt got some love before Burrows, of course ) and just remember how much you enjoyed Todd Bertuzzi's post game interviews, Pavel's and others that can't hold a candle to these two for honesty. I'm sold.
So, ( and I have to say, although maybe I just don't follow those kinda fans ) while I have seen a marked uptick in the Twitter timeline of a more mature and "not sweating the little stuff" attitude to the various "snubs" ( Can you believe Daniel went in the 9th and Hank in the 13th? He is a captain and a Hart winner FFS!!!), its not that big a deal for me. For me at least, I am proud to be a fan of this team. I think most every player on the team is a solid individual that tries to give back to the community and also play breathtakingly exciting to watch hockey for us to enjoy. If someone chooses not to see their talents and skills as how we fans see them, thats fine too. ( Though I do think Alfie missed a big one by not including Alex Edler in the hardest shot. ) If others choose not to see that, its fine. Though, after Toronto fans listened to TSN1050 today, they can only imagine what would have been, and, even if there might have been a few on the 401 trying to deny it, admit to themselves that things like "sisters" is just stupid. I won't even get into what female hockey fans must have thought of Igor's progeny's comment above.( Read the timeline as she debated her thoughts. You would think that the daughter of a superstar would know how something like that can be misconstrued as possibly not a positive thing! )
If it seemed that there was a lot of eastern players on the media day frenzy, its because there was. It is the Toronto Sports Network ( What is TSN, The Sports Network? ) after all "It is what it is", some player once said, and they are just addressing their local market(lol). The few times I saw Sedins ( and I may have missed it, but I did PVR through a bunch of guys, but I did not see an interview with Hodgson and Edler. ) they were everything that we have come to expect and even overlook. Great players and representatives of the NHL and Vancouver.
How good is that?
#LetEdlerShoot
#EmbraceTheHate
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Another score Dan!
I so look forward to your posts. Thanks!
"Truth is, everybody is going to hurt you; you just gotta find the ones worth suffering for." -Bob Marley
Another score Dan!
I so look forward to your posts. Thanks!
"Truth is, everybody is going to hurt you; you just gotta find the ones worth suffering for." -Bob Marley
doubly thanks!
Nuck’s Misconduct Bishop, 1st United Church of Luongod. "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." Gandhi. I think he was a Canucks fan...
@Vancitydan Writer at Nucks Misconduct
he was so excited about these posts
he posted twice!
<3 Boobies!
notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
maybe he felt like he had to
cuz the first post only took like 20 seconds.
"Planet Earth is blue, and there's nothing I can do."
Dropping F-bombs since the early 70's.
'Nucks Misconduct Sr. VP of Inappropriateness and Questionable Conduct, second director of immaturity. @Twitchy67
by Twitchy2010 on Jan 28, 2012 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
He's a fan
AND a Marley fan! Thats enough for me!
;-)
Nuck’s Misconduct Bishop, 1st United Church of Luongod. "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." Gandhi. I think he was a Canucks fan...
@Vancitydan Writer at Nucks Misconduct
sarcasmometer fail
i was making a bad joke.
"Planet Earth is blue, and there's nothing I can do."
Dropping F-bombs since the early 70's.
'Nucks Misconduct Sr. VP of Inappropriateness and Questionable Conduct, second director of immaturity. @Twitchy67
by Twitchy2010 on Jan 28, 2012 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
need to work on that sarcasm
delivery. My meter is working fine. ;-/
Oh shit, I had it set to default….my mistake!
Nuck’s Misconduct Bishop, 1st United Church of Luongod. "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." Gandhi. I think he was a Canucks fan...
@Vancitydan Writer at Nucks Misconduct
either that
or it could have been a REALLY bad joke?
<3 Boobies!
notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
quite possible
I can’t say I’ve ever batted 1.000 on making funnies… Could also be it was too obtuse…
"Planet Earth is blue, and there's nothing I can do."
Dropping F-bombs since the early 70's.
'Nucks Misconduct Sr. VP of Inappropriateness and Questionable Conduct, second director of immaturity. @Twitchy67
by Twitchy2010 on Jan 28, 2012 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
can’t believe you didn’t put in a joke about it being set to the “missy” setting….
Nucks Misconduct writer, ambassador and prima donna.
Note to self: there's always a dirty joke somewhere in there....
@NM_missy
lol
I actually replaced “missy” with “default”!
LOL
Nuck’s Misconduct Bishop, 1st United Church of Luongod. "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." Gandhi. I think he was a Canucks fan...
@Vancitydan Writer at Nucks Misconduct
Great article, thank you.
The Taoist pedant in me wishes to point out it’s “Yin and Yang” not “Ying and Yang.”
just saw this on twitter
renhockey Renaud P Lavoie
Bill Daly:“Québec est une possibilité pour recevoir Phoenix l’an prochain, mais elle n’est pas seule.”
and the translation…
Quebec is an opportunity to receive Phoenix next year, but she is not alone.
One of those jerks from Nucks Misconduct
@KentBaskyNM
Holy crap. Look at Rome!!- Sean Zandberg
renhockey Renaud P Lavoie
Seattle, Kansas City et Las Vegas sont les autres villes. Seattle étant la seule avec Québec pour l’an prochain.
Seattle, Kansas City and Las Vegas are the other cities. Seattle is the only one with Quebec for next year.
One of those jerks from Nucks Misconduct
@KentBaskyNM
Holy crap. Look at Rome!!- Sean Zandberg
This is not new info though….CBC was discussing this on a Hotstove segment back in December. Quebec City deserves to have a team again, and should have first dibs IMO, but it would be so awesome to see a team in Seattle.
They once made a Kevin Bieksa toilet paper, but it wouldn't take shit from anybody.
http://www.mindcheck.ca/inonevoice <-- support mental health awareness
just interesting to hear this said again
when they are assuring everyone a buyer to keep Phoenix in place will be found, and in light of money being given to New Jersey to help them make payroll…
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@KentBaskyNM
Holy crap. Look at Rome!!- Sean Zandberg
JoeYerdonPHT Joe Yerdon
Teams the NHL has helped out the last five years or so: Phoenix, Dallas, New Jersey. Not helped: Atlanta. Hmm.
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@KentBaskyNM
Holy crap. Look at Rome!!- Sean Zandberg
dshoalts David Shoalts
Bettman says NHL “is not subsidizing” New Jersey Devils but implied league is advancing money to the team from its share of league revenue.
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@KentBaskyNM
Holy crap. Look at Rome!!- Sean Zandberg
Seattle’s arena is a huge problem, Kansas City simply cannot support more professional sports unless the Royals move, and I literally can’t think of a worse idea than Las Vegas.
by Passive Voice on Jan 28, 2012 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
(none of which is to say that the Board of Governors wouldn’t okay a move to any of those places. those guys are collectively retarded)
but so QC it is!
by Passive Voice on Jan 28, 2012 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
there is a movement
to build a new arena in Seattle, and if it was a temp thing and then an impetus to get both the NHL and NBA back, I could see it.
But QC has to be the fave
Nuck’s Misconduct Bishop, 1st United Church of Luongod. "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." Gandhi. I think he was a Canucks fan...
@Vancitydan Writer at Nucks Misconduct
Phoenix?
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
phoenix is like 2 times the size of vegas, and it’s not like vegas screams “hockey” where phoenix doesn’t. also nevada’s economy has been utterly assfucked lately.
by Passive Voice on Jan 28, 2012 5:48 PM PST up reply actions
I literally can’t think of a worse idea than Las Vegas.
O Rly?

<3 Boobies!
notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
title fail, dude
Nucks Misconduct writer, ambassador and prima donna.
Note to self: there's always a dirty joke somewhere in there....
@NM_missy
haha yeah sorry
I didn’t start out with the intention of putting an image, so I forgot
<3 Boobies!
notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
Interesting
None of the players at the ASG are willing to say anything contrary than support for TeaPartyTimmy, but they have no issue calling out Ovechkin, saying this was for the fans. Well, so was the White House visit, more or less. Makes me believe players were told exactly what to say so they didn’t get their own teams caught up in the shit storm.
One of those jerks from Nucks Misconduct
@KentBaskyNM
Holy crap. Look at Rome!!- Sean Zandberg
Yep
I am enjoying TT’s obstinate refusal to just be…you know, human about it all.
He knows that if he would just swallow his arrogance and issue the perfunctory ( and everyone would know by the language and delivery that he was just hitting the right notes for the story ) story on how it might have been a bad idea ( even with a nod to the …to the rest of us, extreme political views )…it would all go away.
Refusing to “talk” about it just makes the media take up the challenge more. Regardless of what platitudes teammates and TT mouth about it not changing the room…you know that it will have some affect, when in the 13th city on the road, some beat reporter asks the same questions about it again and someone snaps…giving another quote that will further it!
In an era of media coaching like you refer to Kent, its funny that TT won’t take the advice of the media types that are probably telling him every day to “get in front of this” and “control the story”.
It looks awesome on him, and I hope it provides a distraction that they will deny it is all season long!
Nuck’s Misconduct Bishop, 1st United Church of Luongod. "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." Gandhi. I think he was a Canucks fan...
@Vancitydan Writer at Nucks Misconduct
My hope
Is that at some point the fans in other arenas do their job and heckle him. Re-energizing the whole story and if not distracting the bruins at least frustrating them.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 28, 2012 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
Oh, that will happen!
Are you telling me the Flyers, Rangers,Caps,Islanders and all the other fans in that neighborhood, to say nothing of a pretty informed and passionate fanbase in not one but two Canadian cities will not have at leas t a few signs and a chant or two?
I will be honestly shocked if there is not at least one fan “reaction” story in the weeks afterwards.
maybe he goes on Fox for a tearful interview with O’rielly and ends it beforehand, but I doubt that is going to happen soon.
He seems really obstinate. The interviews at Media Day were all chin thrust way out, hands gesticulating annoyance on the issue.
Media guys, what do they do when you tell them there is something you cannot ask about? They find new and interesting ways to “ask” about it!
Looks good on him huh?
Nuck’s Misconduct Bishop, 1st United Church of Luongod. "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." Gandhi. I think he was a Canucks fan...
@Vancitydan Writer at Nucks Misconduct
He's such a politician
I wouldn’t be surprised if Americans see him involved in politics ina few years.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 28, 2012 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
The tea party never cries (or apologizes).
I expect TT to have his jaw thrust for the duration of his career and beyond.
Hodgson on Hansen--
"I've never played with a guy who creates so many offensive turnovers.
I really enjoy playing with him."
by Bobby Canuck on Jan 28, 2012 5:31 PM PST up reply actions
Proteautype Adam Proteau
Tim Thomas blaming his White House debacle on the media was a hoot. For our next trick, we’re forcing him to slow dance with Nancy Pelosi!
One of those jerks from Nucks Misconduct
@KentBaskyNM
Holy crap. Look at Rome!!- Sean Zandberg
I really think it must suck to be a Ducks fan
Overreaction of the weekend by a fanbase goes to…
WhatWouldJNDo Jen from AC
Guys, the Ducks didn’t submit a bid this year for the ASG. Chill out. The NHL isn’t constantly screwing Anaheim.
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@KentBaskyNM
Holy crap. Look at Rome!!- Sean Zandberg
I would think
if that is a prevailing thing in Anaheim, that the Kings would have a similar view on the issue.
The Ottawa fans have their chest out there this weekend, I am sure, and that is OK,. They’ve got a bunch of guys on the team that are having great seasons, so its partially worthy anyhow…
But even though I at first thought it silly that in the Skills comp, one of the harder shots in the West was shelved for Alfie to participate, its all about the fans, they are spending a ton of cash this weekend to help Ottawa ( which is why I am always going to say the ASG is a good thing, regardless. 30 mildo this weekend is the estimate, and thats pretty impressive )…so whatever.
Now, if it was here and Burrows was not an All Star…then we would have something to talk about!
Nuck’s Misconduct Bishop, 1st United Church of Luongod. "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." Gandhi. I think he was a Canucks fan...
@Vancitydan Writer at Nucks Misconduct
Burrows is a true All Star.
Hodgson on Hansen--
"I've never played with a guy who creates so many offensive turnovers.
I really enjoy playing with him."

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