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A pledge. Not so much a promise, because there's got to be some reasonable excuse to have to say something. But I wish to say to all of you at Nucks Misconduct: I hereby pledge to stop talking so much about the Boston Bruins. It's not that I wanted to, most of it was entirely necessary, and we pride ourselves on not just giving you what we think is the best damn blog covering the Canucks but one that ensures you keep up to date on the other teams in the NHL. This season however, the Bruins have gone out of their way to ensure people have to talk about them, intentionally or not. I cannot recall any team, let alone a team that was defending champions that continuously looked as bad as the Bruins have this season. The crescendo of it all came yesterday with their visit to the White House. The sporting world, including many who normally couldn't give a squirt about hockey are talking about Tim Thomas and his desire to express himself politically by making a statement that had nothing to do about politics. And as much as this was the kind of gift that writers, columnists and bloggers pray for, for me at least it signals an opportunity to break free. The ring is being tossed into the fires of Mount Doom. They didn't just jump the shark, they retired it's number and sewed a patch on their jerseys.

Star-divide

Tim Thomas is more than able to say what he wants about anything. He lives in a country that prides itself on freedom of speech. He exercised that right yesterday, more or less. He told his team, on a day where they are, as is tradition for all sporting champions honoured by the White House, that he would not join them on their visit. His political beliefs, so strong that he could not put them aside, meant that an occasion not just for the team but their fans was not as important as expressing his disgust with the country's state of affairs. As someone who believes one should stand up for your beliefs, I can empathize with this. I also think that if you believe in something strong enough, when given an opportunity to voice your beliefs, you take it. Now I am not saying that Tim Thomas should have got all up in Barack Obama's face and raged. Far from it. But to people of a similar political inkling, it would have sent a huge message if he would have shook his hand, looked him in the eye and said something, anything even, about his feelings about the President and the job he is doing. What 'Free Citizen' ever gets such an opportunity? Yet Thomas chose not just to waive his right to do this, but also chose to hide from the media on this, offering up a disjointed manifesto on facebook, and then stating he won't answer further questions on the matter.

It reeks of cowardice. It's an utter embarrassment to the NHL and the game, which prides itself on having a better quality of people involved in the sport (let's face it, there are far less incidents in hockey that involve criminal or other embarrassing behavior than baseball, football or basketball). In a season where we've heard from the Bruins management a lot, constantly defending the actions of their players on the ice, we now hear them defend Thomas for his actions off the ice. And while they were quick to state that Thomas' views were not shared by the team or it's ownership group, they also stated that they would not punish him for missing this team function, despite sitting Tyler Seguin earlier in the season for missing a team breakfast. I can't speak for them. And maybe for them, sitting Thomas would send a bad message in the room. At the same time, anyone who thinks that there isn't someone in the Bruins organization who questions Tim Thomas after this, you're kidding yourself. He put himself over the team. There's no other way to look at this. Was he the first player to feel this way? Likely not. Yet they all managed to swallow their contempt, pride or whatever and shake the man's hand. As the only American on their roster, it certainly presented a bizarre image. And with the team playing against the Capitals tonight, one can expect we will hear a lot about this. You think the Bruins will start Thomas tonight? Not a chance. And then we can make a choice, the high road or we can act like the Boston media and spew out things like 'Why is Tim Thomas ducking the Washington Capitals?' Now I get why they do that kind of stuff. It's fun. But I think we haven't begun to hear then end of questions about Thomas and his commitment level to his team, which is apparently not where even his team thinks it should be.

And speaking of the Capitals, they're in the midst of a media shit-storm themselves as they've announced that after being suspended for 3 games yesterday for a hit to the head of Pittsburgh's Zbynek Michalek, Alex Ovechkin has decided he doesn't want to play in this weekend's All Star Game in Ottawa. ''He really doesn't feel like he deserves to be there and doesn't want to be a distraction,'' McPhee told TSN Hockey Insider Pierre Lebrun. ''When he came in this morning, he said, 'I'm a suspended player and I don't deserve to be there.''' The NHL has already announced they will not discipline Ovechkin for this. He's already being punished, and let's face it, his likeability is taking yet another hit. Instead of shrugging it off and looking at the All Star Weekend as an opportunity to do some patch work PR, he's instead gone the prima donna route, and acted like a spoiled child. Mr. Big? More like Mr. Big Baby.

(Inhales deeply) Okay, glad I was able to get that out of my system. On to more important matters. The Canucks play their last game before the All Star break and have a little momentum heading into tonight's matchup against the Edmonton Oilers. The Canucks are coming off a 4-3 win over the San Jose Sharks Saturday, and the Oilers needed a shootout to defeat the Sharks last night. The good news for the Canucks is that Sami Salo's health has improved faster than originally thought and he is a go tonight, when it was first thought he wouldn't return to the lineup until after the All Star break.

The Canucks seem to be finding their feet once again after struggling through the last days of December and most of January. They face an Oilers squad that has scored a whopping 9 goals in it's last 8 games. Despite their somewhat prolific scoring ability, the seemingly age old Oilers issues are seeing them creeping towards the NHL basement once again. Their defence is poor and their goaltending not nearly good enough to keep them in games. Sure, they get the occasional game out of Nikolai Khabibulin and Devan Dubnyk like they did last night, but not on anything resembling a consistent basis. This team needs far more than just their young guns, and may need to part with some of them in order to build an actual team that can win hockey games. It makes the rumours that the Oilers are going to extend the contract of GM Steve Tambellini mind-boggling to say the least. His tenure has seen the Oilers bottom out and stay there, despite grabbing top rated draft pick after top rated draft pick. The patience of Oilers fans is running out, and one can hardly blame them.

LEFTOVERS

As bad as Thomas ends up looking in all of this, the ridiculous tweet from TSN's Dave Hodge yesterday, implying Thomas was a racist because his 3 children's names begin with K threatens to overshadow it all. Hodge is a living legend in the world of hockey broadcasting, from his work with NBC and Hockey Night In Canada to his more recent stint at TSN, and it's pretty sad to see him seemingly toss this away for a comment that at best is an ill-advised joke in extremely poor taste. Thomas' political views are fair game right now, but implications of racism? A step over the line, Dave. An apology can't come fast enough... If you want a couple really good reads on Tim Thomas (and details on how this selfishness is hardly a new thing) here's a couple fine pieces from Kevin Paul Dupont and Stu Hackel of SI... Scott Hartnell of the Philadelphia Flyers will replace Chicago's Jonathan Toews at the All Star Game, as Toews bows out due to a wrist injury. Toews hopes to return to the lineup when the Blackhawks play the Canucks on the 31st...

CLASSIC METAL SONG OF THE DAY

The fact this band was able to achieve the success it has is remarkable in and of itself. Rising from the slums of Belo Horizonte, Brazil to become one of the biggest metal acts of the 90's and still going strong today (in spite of losing founding members Max and Igor Cavalera), Sepultura combined thrash and death metal with the cultural sensibilities of their homeland, running this music through a filter that gave them a unique sound. Hugely inspirational, they laid down some memorable tracks over the years, few as devastating as this one.


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about a pledge: the canucks have helped lauch mindcheck.ca in loving memory of Rick Rypien, and now I’m crying after seeing Bieksa interview…
way more interesting than the B…

by BECanucks on Jan 24, 2012 11:10 AM PST reply actions  

ditto

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by Twitchy2010 on Jan 24, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

The organization handled the situation so well in putting Rick Rypien the person above Rick Rypien the hockey player. And their continued support of mental health initiatives makes me proud to be a fan.

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by nucksandpucks on Jan 24, 2012 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Come to think of it,

the Oilers are likely to write off this current season, and look forward to the coming one, with their promising young squad. But there may be one area where they really need an upgrade, and that’s their goalie. Khabibulin is not exactly spring chicken. Wouldn’t Schneider fit in nicely with the rest of their young players. If I were their GM, I would give and arm and a leg to get Corey from the Canucks.
But what can the Canucks ask in return?

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by AttilaS on Jan 24, 2012 11:19 AM PST reply actions  

they have lots to choose from but...

why arm a rival?

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by Kent Basky on Jan 24, 2012 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Rask isn’t going anywhere, he’ll be replacing Timmy when the time comes.

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by cyxj on Jan 24, 2012 6:29 PM PST up reply actions  

well

The Canucks would not trade him there, I do not think. There are plenty of non divisional rivals to trade with.

I, for one, always smirk when I hear the “promising young squad” thing, like this is the Hawks or Pens 2.0. Both those teams built strong teams around their stud rookies. Plus, both those teams rookies ( not just the #1s, but the other guys too ) all performed better and better year to year.

Has this team? It sure looks like a no again this year. This “lets all nod knowingly” BS about how good the Oilers are going to be ( my fave is the Canucks better win a Cup soon, before they all get older and take it up the pipeline from the young Oilers that are going to dominate everyone soon ) is pretty funny.

They have not shown the same as the other teams mentioned, their young “stars” are still on a losing team that could compare more with the Blue Jackets and Islanders ( a team that actually looks to be doing a better job of becoming that team of “potential” )…and none of this even mentions the very real possibility that some of these young guys get sick of losing and abandon ship at the end of their entry level deals…eager to get out of the destination city of Edmonchuck.

So, no to giving them the best goalie not starting in the NHL ( him and Tukka, anyhow!)…and no to this team of “potential” being anything but another heaving ship of inequity on the waves of the NHL, either!

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by vancitydan on Jan 24, 2012 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Well

as a Canucks fan, I surely hope that you are right in that they are “overvalued” (using a stock market term). But you have to admit that there were times (mostly at the beginning of this season), when they looked really good, if not brilliant. The thing with young players is that they lack resilience and lose confidence easily. So, as the season winds down, their enthusiasm winds down as well.

I understand that the Canucks don’t want to give them a gun that can backfire (Schneider), but from the perspective of the Oilers, getting Scheider could be sweet. And although the Canucks don’t want to give their closest rival ammunition, everything has a price. If the price is right, they couldn’t refuse a trade.

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by AttilaS on Jan 24, 2012 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

The thing is

that the Oilers can wait a few more years to get better. The Canucks cannot.

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by AttilaS on Jan 24, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

If you look at Boston, Detroit, Pittsburgh and Chicago

Something they all have is high end D-men. I won’t worry about the Oilers until they shore up their blue line. If they somehow manage to wrangle a trade or throw an offer sheet at Nashville and steal Weber (or some similar d-stud from another team) away then I’ll begin to worry.

The up and coming teams that looks scary right now are LA and the Blues. LA especially has an intimidating mix of scoring power and high end blue line talent, not to mention all star goaltending. Now that Anaheim is rolling, if they can squeak into the playoffs they’re going to do some damage too.

As for the assertion that the Canucks are running out of time, I disagree. Their team is in their prime, and as the Sedins inevitable age and decline, Kesler and Hodgson will move up the ranks and fill their shoes. Gillis will acquire whatever he has to to keep the top two lines competitive. (Don’t forget about Niklas Jensen waiting in the wings) I think it will actually be a natural and pretty seamless progression.

by Sandwich76 on Jan 24, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Just wanted to point this out.. http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL/Western/Pacific/Anaheim.html
Unless they somehow win 25 out of their next 35 games, they won’t make the playoffs

by seedvt on Jan 24, 2012 5:33 PM PST up reply actions  

oh yeah?

look at Columbus, they have it much worse.

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by missy on Jan 24, 2012 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Anaheim have won 8 of their last 10, 5 in a row

and they’re 11 points out of a playoff spot. If they can maintain that momentum past the all-star break, i wouldn’t discount them from contending for 8th in the conference.

by Sandwich76 on Jan 24, 2012 6:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not sure

How you can keep assessing their young talent as not improving when none of them have played two full season in the NHL and the least talented of the big three just played his way into the all-star game. That is a very talented and very young group and comparisons to the blue jackets and Rick Nash are less accurate than comparisons the the penguins.

by Canuckelhead on Jan 24, 2012 12:50 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I mean don't get me wrong

I hope you’re right but you have to be able to, at the very least, acknowledge the fact that they have three very impressive, very young hockey players who haven’t even started to hit their stride and already look like the real deal. I’m not sure where you get that they haven’t lived up to potential yet? Don’t you feel it’s far to early to make that assessment? Especially since they all seem to be constantly improving. Bottom line, I hope youre right but to me all indications are that’s a crazy scary looking first line

by Canuckelhead on Jan 24, 2012 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I can acknowledge they were all worthy of their draft status

and that Eberle could have been higher. That they are talented, for sure.

But really, if you are just going to ignore the facts, that misses the point.

The BJs suck after years and years of great picks. The Pens built a Cup winner with some youth at the heart of it, but there is no way that anyone on the Oilers, even the Nuge, is a generational talent like he is.

No, I don’t feel it is too early. The Hawks and Pens both showed improvement. The Oilers have not.

What did Sid do his first year? A helluva lot more than any of those kids.

Look, they have some talent of course. The kids definitely have that. But all three of them are also lousy in their own end ( Nuge the best there too ).

You can believe that because everyone says they are going to be great that they are going to be. I have seen nothing yet to make me feel comfy with that assertion. Of course they are talented, but thats not the point. The point is do they make their team THAT much better?

Not yet, and maybe never. Taylor Hall has shown that Seguin should have got the #1 pick, and Eberle is a sniper that disappears in his own end. The Nuge is talented, for sure, and the closest to that high mantle everyone wants to put them on.

But he is 18, got hurt once, and could very well get blown up before he fills out and can better handle the rough treatment. Because make no mistake, he will get belted around even more than before.

Very impressive? No. But that is just me. I also think the Canucks will still be a Cup contender after the Twins retire, because the GM here, and the draw of wanting to play on a contender is going to be better than a bunch of kids that have shown flashes, but have not made their team improve as hoped for. Their coach and GM crowed about the playoffs this year, for instance!

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by vancitydan on Jan 24, 2012 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

BTW

I agree that they COULD be a scary 1st line. They have shown that in flashes. I have my doubts because they have not shown they ability to do more than that, like Toews and Kane did…

Or the ability of Tamby to build around them, and not have at least one bail when his entry level deal is done…

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by vancitydan on Jan 24, 2012 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah they need to be built around

But hall is nearly a point a game player in this his second season and eberle is an all-star in his so I don’t know that you can perceive them as doing anything but improving. I get what you’re saying, that the team needs to show improvement and any thoughts of timelines for the Canucks are faulty but a team with that much talent can make huge leaps in one season if they add a few of the right pieces. But they have a few more seasons to get it right and don’t be surprised if they do. I’m sure tamby has a plan

by Canuckelhead on Jan 24, 2012 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

thats the thing!

Tamby is the weak link.

Look at this year. Everyone that watches, is in the game, or even has more than a passing interest could see they needed defense.

Instead, he got Smyth. Whitney is a 3-5 guy on any other team, and has some talent, but he is not a #1 defenseman.

Tamby signed a 38/39 year old goalie to a multi year deal he did not deserve. He hired the WORST enforcer in the NHL in Hordy to protect his guys, and forgot he cannot play. Eager? Only slightly better.

Horcoff is still there, and make a little more than the Sedins?

I know its Lowe too…but until they clean house at a higher level than coach, I just don’t see that jump.

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by vancitydan on Jan 24, 2012 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

To be fair

It was a tough offseason to acquire a dman and I think maybe they felt they had a big enough window that they didn’t need to overpay.

by Canuckelhead on Jan 24, 2012 2:49 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Just when I think

that I couldn’t be more proud of my team, they launch mindcheck.ca. WTG Canucks! And thank you.

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by canf on Jan 24, 2012 11:38 AM PST reply actions  

Absolutely terrific initiative by my favourite team

http://mindcheck.ca/

Could not be more proud

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by jabraham on Jan 24, 2012 12:29 PM PST reply actions  

Speaking of mental health

Check out letstalk.bell.ca

For every text message sent and long distance phone call made on Feb 8, Bell will donate 5 cents to mental health programs.

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by jabraham on Jan 24, 2012 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

glad to see they're doing Let's Talk Day again this year

I featured it here when I came out and talked about my own battles at the time.

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by Kent Basky on Jan 24, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

heartbreaking for Juice, yet I am proud of this organization

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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 24, 2012 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

and....

quoted on Puck Daddy today :)

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by Kent Basky on Jan 24, 2012 1:26 PM PST reply actions  

sheesh

here

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by Kent Basky on Jan 24, 2012 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice

You deserved it. Perfectly stated and eloquently put.

by Canuckelhead on Jan 24, 2012 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

thanks

Always good when the best hockey blog on the interwebz gives you a stick tap

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by Kent Basky on Jan 24, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

and the comment section is about to go off...

I love that some of them are actually spouting the ‘Luongo hid from the Bruins’ meme. Fucking hilarious…

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by Kent Basky on Jan 24, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I lost a lot of respect for Tim Thomas

Personally I think it reeks that you, as an athlete, have to bring your political opinion into this arena. If every douchebag professional athlete in the NBA, MLB, NFL and NHL did this, roughly half of all players would resist shaking the hand of the president any given year. I think the US has enough people making moronic political statements, both from left and right, so why not just be man enough to say thank you and be on your merry way??!! Just be happy you can live there and make the millions you do, doing the thing you love.

by patrik e on Jan 24, 2012 1:35 PM PST reply actions  

dammit. I could have said it all in a tweet
bruce_arthur Bruce Arthur
Just realized Tim Thomas basically posted his worries about Big Brother on Facebook.

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by Kent Basky on Jan 24, 2012 2:49 PM PST reply actions  

omg

that may be the single best thing ever written on this blog. I have actual tears running down my face as I laugh. I tip my hat to you, Miss.

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by Kent Basky on Jan 24, 2012 4:37 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

so glad that someone turned it green

went for the silent rec’d this time, but that should in no way take away from how much I mirror Kent’s words.

If I could rec again, I would!

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by vancitydan on Jan 24, 2012 4:44 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Dances With Wolves unrecs that!

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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 24, 2012 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Awwwww!

Okay, well if Dances With Wolves Kostner is there, instead of directing he’s sitting at the editing booth yelling, “No, no, no this is all wrong there are way too many cuts. Use ALL the footage!”

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by Pseuccubus on Jan 24, 2012 6:58 PM PST up reply actions  

It wouldn’t surprise me if Obama used this incident strategically, by inviting TT to the WH for beers and a friendly tete a tete.

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by Bobby Canuck on Jan 24, 2012 3:41 PM PST reply actions  

really?

u have an odd view of the president’s priorities, i’d guess.

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by Twitchy2010 on Jan 24, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Could be I'm mistaken,

but I kind of remembering him doing that type of stuff a couple of times with folks who disagreed with him publicly……but maybe I saw it on some tv show.

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by Bobby Canuck on Jan 24, 2012 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes he did it

during an incident where police bashed in someone’s door and there was a suggestion it was because he was black. Obama had the police officer and the “burglar” over for beer to talk it over.

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by Canuckles on Jan 24, 2012 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

that’s awesome

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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 24, 2012 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Most likely

the guy would say no thanks but that wouldn’t matter that much to Obama. What would matter most to him would be that he invited the guy to try to mend fences.

Hodgson on Hansen--
"I've never played with a guy who creates so many offensive turnovers.
I really enjoy playing with him."

by Bobby Canuck on Jan 24, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

S'up?

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by vancitydan on Jan 24, 2012 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

The Dallas losing streak.

by Canuckelhead on Jan 24, 2012 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

u vague, bro?

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by Kent Basky on Jan 24, 2012 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

clearly you aren't from around here

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by Canuckles on Jan 24, 2012 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

that awkward moment

when a former Bruin hits Lucic with a hip check, and then they see that what Marchand did really wasn’t a hip check after all…

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by Kent Basky on Jan 24, 2012 5:02 PM PST reply actions  

And Rask just let in a softie. Yes!

by Canuckelhead on Jan 24, 2012 5:03 PM PST reply actions  

I share this dream

but you know they simply won’t barring an injury

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by Kent Basky on Jan 24, 2012 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

If the fans get crazy enough

I might get some small satisfaction if not the full “happy meal”

by Canuckelhead on Jan 24, 2012 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

was disappointed

I haven’t seen a single reference to Thomas hiding from Caps media or fans on twitter. That’s a tap in and they missed it.

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by Kent Basky on Jan 24, 2012 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Honestly

I think people are still trying to decide how this will play out. It’s too complicated to take cheap shots like they did with Luongo and it transcends being about sports, it’s about American politics now but I’m sure he’ll get his.

by Canuckelhead on Jan 24, 2012 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Also

The way a lot of people perceive Thomas has changed dramatically in 24 hours that’s gonna take some time to sink in.

by Canuckelhead on Jan 24, 2012 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

McQuaid

can’t fight his own battles, can he? This time Chara is right there as Chimera tries to get him to engage.

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by Kent Basky on Jan 24, 2012 5:11 PM PST reply actions  

McQuaid is a tough dude, surprised Chara needed to step in.

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by cyxj on Jan 24, 2012 6:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Since when would you call out McQuaid?

We’ve just gotten over three weeks about the Bruins doing nothing but brawl.

by 13_Legion on Jan 24, 2012 7:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Canadian Media in Ottawa.

In all honesty, will they care that much about this stunt that Thomas pulled when they interview him at the ASG?

The only two blogs I’ve seen other than SCoC covering this are you guys and the Habs, and I would gather that has much more to day with the recent history between the Canucks and Bruins and the long history with Les Habs. More laundry than politics, and in this case, foreign politics.

by 13_Legion on Jan 24, 2012 7:44 PM PST reply actions  

What?

You’re fooling yourself. Every blog I visited was talking about it and the Canadian media is eating it up coast to coast.

by Canuckelhead on Jan 25, 2012 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Meant to reply, it’s posted right below.

by 13_Legion on Jan 25, 2012 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, we’ll see at the ASG then.

I’m honestly curious, but if you’re saying it’s on other blogs, ok. However, I checked the Fanposts and articles on the Flyers, the Sabres, Tampa, Montreal, here, Pittsburgh, Blackhawks (as the President is from Chicago), and saw little if anything.

While on the other hand here and the Habs blog dedicated articles.

That’s all I’m saying.

I myself wish Thomas had gone, but he’s entitled not to, and can’t be beckoned. He said nothing violent or racist, so I just put it in long line of atheletes declining the invite.

by 13_Legion on Jan 25, 2012 1:23 PM PST reply actions  

Maybe not articles

But the comments sections were filled with discussion. In any case the Canadian media is hockey story crazy and a star goalie puting politics before his team is news with all the major papers in this country. You say athletes have declined the invitation before, which is true but for some reason it never felt as political as this and it never seemed as selfish. Fair or not.

by Canuckelhead on Jan 25, 2012 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

the Canadian media is hockey story crazy and a star goalie puting politics before his team is news with all the major papers in this country.

Can you imagine the shit storm here if Luongo pulled a stunt like that?

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by Canuckles on Jan 25, 2012 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

It would never happen

Because there’s no way he would get more than five feet from his house if all he gave was a pithy little statement and he knows it.

by Canuckelhead on Jan 25, 2012 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

That's just it tho

I get you’re joking but those are real things to protest and drawing attention to something you’re passionate about is understandable. What exactly was Tim Thomas protesting? I mean, what I got from his letter was. Politics are bad, America is screwed up, so I’m gonna sit in my mansion until it gets better.

by Canuckelhead on Jan 26, 2012 8:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Also

I thought the letter was a cop out. I think he didn’t want to go to the white house specifically because a democrat is the president. Someone pointed out how incredibly petty that was so he made a blanket statement about the downfall of America. What a brat.

by Canuckelhead on Jan 26, 2012 9:02 AM PST up reply actions  

The anti Obama sentiment is quite extreme among tea party Americans.

They, as the Arizona governor did yesterday, have no problem confronting him in public. Anything to humiliate him. Thomas’ act was as much an attempt to humiliate as what the rest of the tea party does publicly against Obama. Gandhi figured that humiliation is the first step toward violence. Go figure.

Hodgson on Hansen--
"I've never played with a guy who creates so many offensive turnovers.
I really enjoy playing with him."

by Bobby Canuck on Jan 26, 2012 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

The other thing

Is because Thomas said so little and nothing to the media it created a vacuum and the media likes nothing more than to fill that vacuum with speculation. The whole thing was just handled so arrogantly and thoughtlessly. As if he can just make that choice and not be expected to answer for it. Hey Tim, you’re not getting paid all that money to stop the puck. In fact most of it is paying you to be in the public eye. Yes, that includes simply playing hockey on t.v but the real big money comes because people relate to you from interviews and stories the press write.

by Canuckelhead on Jan 25, 2012 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

One last thing

I was bit of a closet Tim Thomas fan before all this. I hated him for beating the Canucks but I secretly admired his story and how hard he battled. I also have to admit I thought it was kinda cool when he hit hank in the SCF even if I did scream for a penalty. But any of that is gone from this. I could care less about his politics and I don’t even really care that he didn’t want to meet the president. The way he handled the whole thing just reeks of self serving arrogance and I have zero respect for the man and will continue to until he mans up and owns his actions.

by Canuckelhead on Jan 25, 2012 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

He's also a bit hypocritical

when he’s against taxation while his entire college career was funded by tax dollars.

Hodgson on Hansen--
"I've never played with a guy who creates so many offensive turnovers.
I really enjoy playing with him."

by Bobby Canuck on Jan 25, 2012 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Great article Kent

I can’t believe how long it took me to come over here for you guys POV on this thing.. any attempt at discussion about this on SCH just turns ugly, so we’ve stopped. But, that’s pretty much how I think about the TT thing.

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by mightymike D on Jan 26, 2012 4:44 PM PST reply actions  

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