Morning Buzz: Hodgson shows SuperSkills vs. Sharks; Luongo sets win record; 3 games for Ference
by Jordan Clarke on Jan 23, 2012 8:00 AM PST
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After a couple weeks of mediocrity, the Canucks really brought their 'A' game 5-on-5 against the Sharks on Saturday, didn't they? With the forwards healthy, hopefully this marks the start of them getting into a comfortable groove. I'm still attributing the special teams struggles to the natural ebb and flow of a long season, so I'm not losing sleep over it. To me, it's the way the team controls the puck and manages the game at even strength that sets them apart.
Videos, links, photos, and a new generation of Kesler-bombing all after the jump!
Vancouver Canucks news & notes
The Canucks held their annual SuperSkills event yesterday, here are the highlights:
The next generation of Kesler bombing has already begun. This is from the Canucks SuperSkills yesterday, and made me LOL hard. Already has the trollface perfected.
Roberto Luongo became the all-time franchise leader in wins with his 212th in a Canucks uniform, passing Kirk McLean's old record. Congrats Bobby Lou! You have to think that if Luongo does end up playing out his entire 12-year contract in Vancouver, his wins record will be pretty much unattainable. [The Hockey Writers]
Zandberg gave Luongo some much-deserved love in his post yesterday.
Cody Hodgson is the toast of the town after Saturday's big win, and Gord McIntyre sat down for a little Q&A with the Godson a few days ago. [The Province]
Is Hodgson working his way into the discussion for the Calder Trophy? [Vancouver Sun]
Cam Charron has the advanced stats from Saturday's win over the Sharks. Unsurprisingly, they're almost all positive. [Canucks Army]
The Game According to Twitter: Canucks vs. Sharks. [CHB]
The Rock reviews the Sharks at Canucks. [Legion of Blog]
Kevin Bieksa blows. No, really. [PITB]
From Jeff Angus, Alex Edler is on pace for 12 goals, 58 points, only 28 PIM, and 222 shots on goal this season.
Sami Salo continues to fight his way back from his concussion. [Vancouver Sun]
This is a good read by Botch on what Dan Cloutier is up to these days. If not for some horrible mismanagement by the Kings organization, he could still be playing. They signed him to a 2-year extension before he even played a game for them, and then expected him to play through a hip injury which eventually forced him to retire. [The Province]
NHL news & notes
Andrew Ference has been suspended 3 games for his hit from behind on Ryan McDonagh.
Alex Ovechkin could be next on Shanahan's hit list, as he left his feet to deliver what looked like a hit to the head on Michalek yesterday. [Puck Daddy]
Michalek himself also had a questionable hit in the game. He'll have a hearing with Shanahan today. [Sportsnet]
Henrik Zetterberg took the first major penalty of his career on Saturday. According to Darren Dreger, though, he won't be receiving a call from the Shanahan office. [Kukla's Korner]
John Tavares scored the OT winner for the Isles over the Canes on Saturday, batting his own rebound out of mid-air past Cam Ward. He's done this before, remember?
Taylor Hall has had a rough week, and it didn't get any better on Saturday. The Flames blew out the Oilers, and Hall was visibly angry about Tom Renney's decision to pull the goalie when they were already down 3 goals. [Backhand Shelf]
Ryan Lambert with "What We Learned" over the past week. [Puck Daddy]
Ollie Jokinen has had a mini-resurgence the past couple of seasons, and he credits giving up the sauce as the major reason. It doesn't sound like he would just have the occasional beer, either, it sounds like he used to get "plastered up pretty good". [ProHockeyTalk]
Kevin Klein scored on a flip-in from centre ice against Corey Crawford.
It was a home game for Nashville, but there was a large Chicago contingent in attendance. Barry Trotz celebrated his club's big win by rubbing it in their faces a little bit. Always love seeing the Hawks get chirped. [The Examiner]
Today in NHL History
The Detroit Red Wings really like Jan 23. In 1943 they scored a record 8 goals in 1 period, and in 1944 they beat the Rangers 15-0, which set the record for most consecutive goals and most lopsided win.
Also on this day in 1981, Mike Bossy became the first player in NHL history to score 50 goals in 50 games.
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news out of edmonton
has the Oilers giving Tambellini a 4 year extension. Insanity if this is true…
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Insanity? What?
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 23, 2012 8:58 AM PST up reply actions
the reactions of Oilers fans this morning
a wonderfully schadenfreudic (I love making up words) way to start the week :)
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At this point, the only reason for the #Oilers to extend Tambellini for four years is so that all of their critics will finally stop caring
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New #Oilers drinking game: Drink. Heavily.
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Haha, well, I think Tambo has done a swell job tanking that team for high draft picks. Where is the love?
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 23, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
With
more high draft picks to come. Maybe a D man, perhaps?
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ibleedoil Ian Wood
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@mlse too busy planning to firebomb every Rexall drug store, actually. After I finish this sixth bottle of rye.
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MikeHeika Mike Heika
Stars announce 4 year extension for Alex Goligoski. 18.4 million.
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Just how many
Sandman hotels are there?
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NHL_Oilers Edmonton Oilers
#Oilers forward Jordan Eberle has been added to the 2012 NHL All-Star Weekend.
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 23, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
another reason to hate tummy thomas
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oh and in addition to tim thomas, jay feaster has given good-sized campaign contributions to sarah palin and john mccain. he’s the worst.
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@chrismpeters IRL tim thomas is a tea party nutjob
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@GlobeFluto Wrapping up at White House. Didn’t see Tim Thomas.
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by reggiedunlop on Jan 23, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
this day in history
wasn’t Bossy #2 to hit 50 in 50, after the Rocket?
"He'll play, you know he'll play. He'll play on crutches if he has to... and he'll play at Madison Square Garden on Tuesday night! This game is over!"
fack I didn’t know that
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 23, 2012 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
It was
Bossy’s bithday yesterday, methinks.
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Quick question
Will Luongo be #2 or perhaps higher on the NHL all time wins list when he retires?
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Quenneville hoping to have Toews back after all-star break for Jan. 31 at Vancouver. It’s believed to be left hand/wrist. #blackhawks
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Left hand/wrist?
I’m not going there, although every fibre of my being says GOGOGO!
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heh
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Glad to see
another Boston player suspended.
But I am also surprised that Claude Julien din’t claim this time that Ference was protecting himself from a violent reverse check. The situation looked very similar to the Marchand on Salo hit, both players going for the puck, and the Boston player predictably using a dirty trick to gain unfair advantage.
By now, the whole League is expecting Boston to be the cheater on these type of plays, so we will probably see a surge of suspensions in the near future.
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Zata shouldn’t have even gotten a boarding call for that play. Yeeesh
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@ToddSullivan Tim Thomas refused to go to WH with Bruin’s today bcz he’s a Republican?? Is that true?? If it is….what an ass
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He’s not just a republican – he’s one of the crazy, uber-conservative nut job republicans.
by sunshine and lollipops on Jan 23, 2012 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
All that aside
Just go get your picture taken for your teammates rather than turn this into something about him.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 23, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
Interesting…if it’s true (that politics is the reason), that’s lame to put politics in the way. It’s an honour to go to the Whitehouse. And really, show some respect. I strongly dislike Stephen Harper, but I wouldn’t refuse to meet him at Parliament if my team was invited. Respect the office….put personal feelings aside.
They once made a Kevin Bieksa toilet paper, but it wouldn't take shit from anybody.
That is what any rational person would do, but when you’re a big fan of Glenn Beck, you’re not rational.
by sunshine and lollipops on Jan 23, 2012 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
I continue
to be selfishly amused every time a Bruin gets knocked down a peg. My personal feelings on Timmy’s decision aside, I kind of love that it happened and is stirring up controversy, especially among Bruin fans. I’m petty like that.
It also makes me wonder … what would the reaction be if one of the non-American Bruins refused to attend because they didn’t agree with US politics in general. That would have been some fun fall-out to watch.
From bruins fans? the same. Selfish to put oneself and one’s politics ahead of the crest on the front of their jersey, and should be punished by the team for abandoning a team function. Doesn’t make a difference the issue or political stripe. Just suck it up and take the photo op
Yep. It would be another thing if this was in a country with corrupt leadership, or a leadership that has done something seriously wrong (Middle East, Africa). That would be taking a brave stand. Last I checked Obama isn’t a dictator or anything of that sort, so this ends up looking petty. I respect TT right to free speech, but I’m not going to refrain from criticising how he chose to exercise it in this case.
This was just a celebration of the teams achievements…it’s not like he was asked to attend a rally. Nor is this a special case…teams routinely visit the White House.
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Right.
This is not about politics. One may disagree with the president on many issues, but still has to respect the institution. But I am referring to rational people.
There is a certain kind of hatred that transcends rational behaviour, and it must be obvious what kind I am talking about.
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Pretty much
how I feel. The Bush administration was in office for 8 years, four major pro sports = 32 championship teams who made the visit during those years. I’m going to go out on a limb and say, during those years, there was one or two athletes who had moral objections to the practices of that administration, but I never heard of anybody actually not going to the White House in protest of it.
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thomas not present due to poor people in attendance. RT @NaokoFunayama Bruins visiting Boys and Girls Club of Greater Washington.
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"He grabbed my right so I used my left," Ballard smiled. "I have to try to get both of them in there and at least pretend I know what I’m doing."
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Chiarelli said he knew of Thomas decision months ago. Also said he won’t be suspended despite skipping team event.
They once made a Kevin Bieksa toilet paper, but it wouldn't take shit from anybody.
DaveLozo Dave Lozo
With Roberto Luongo’s style, he can make stops at the White House that Tim Thomas can’t.
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Proteautype Adam Proteau
If an NHLer with anti-Bush views didn’t go to the White House, the reaction would’ve been: TRAITOR! SUPPORT OUR LEADER/TROOPS! Etc.
They once made a Kevin Bieksa toilet paper, but it wouldn't take shit from anybody.
Apparently TT is going to release a statement later today via Facebook….according to Wysh.
They once made a Kevin Bieksa toilet paper, but it wouldn't take shit from anybody.
but
Seguin get suspended for missing BREAKFAST!!!
Nice double standard there Petey.
Ugh…hate talking about this team. They seem to do something every day!
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Pancakes are more important than the Commander in chief.
"Thank you very much fans and let’s go for the next game together!"
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I rec’d that shit.
There's a Dustin penner
Joke in there somewhere.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 23, 2012 1:45 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
#HowTimThomasSpentHisDay
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What a fool this Tim Thomas is. When I was invited to the White House to meet a president, the thrill was BEING INVITED TO THE WHITE HOUSE
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I actually defend Thomas’s political stance. But what kind of teammate is this who can’t suck it up and has to overshadow a team honor?
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What if his teammates didn’t care?
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 23, 2012 2:07 PM PST up reply actions
They will
When they are asked about it for the next week
by Canuckelhead on Jan 23, 2012 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
From what I’ve gleaned, Andrew Ference is about as much of a lefty as TT is a tea partier. It was reported that some of his teammates did care.
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by Bobby Canuck on Jan 23, 2012 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
I thought
olbermann was a hard core left-leaner?
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I hope so
Cause this shouldn’t be a political issue as much as an issue about a selfish guy taking the easy road.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 23, 2012 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
I guess that's it
Does the team really care?
I don’t have an issue with Thomas skipping out on the White House visit. Just like I refused to say grace in public school (before they took it out), people should stick up for what they believe (or in my case don’t believe) in. He shouldn’t have to conform for the sake of conforming.
Cmon
This isn’t sticking up for what you believe and I can’t believe people are saying that. It’s not like he’s organizing a rally or quitting hockey to run for office. This is him taking the easy way out. All the people around him will celebrate his decision and people in the press will be split. All he’s done is create a story where there didn’t need to be one and taken away from a day that was supposed to be a fun harmless thing for the team. Let’s not start comparing him to rosa parks
by Canuckelhead on Jan 23, 2012 2:24 PM PST up reply actions
Actually
All he did was not show up to meet someone who’s views he didn’t agree with. It’s the media that’s making it a big deal. He took the quiet road and just didn’t go because he had different political views. What’s wrong with that? Now I’d have an issue with it if he was all over the media pressing his political views and trumpeting his absence, but as far as I can tell, he’s not trumpeting his views, he’s merely expressing them in a quiet manner.
And these pro-sports trips, it’s not just going to the Whitehouse, it’s going to the Whitehouse to meet the president. They don’t just go to the Whitehouse to look at the scenery.
I was invited to an event with Gordon Campbell way back when and I refused to go because I thought, and still think, the Liberals and Campbell were terrible rats. So I took the easy way out by not going? What was the hard way? Go up to Campbell and tell him he’s a two-faced liar?
You don’t think he knew this would make a big stink in the media? With all due respect you not going to meet with Gordo doesn’t make international news. This is and he had to know it. Otherwise I would agree with you but in this case the tough choice would’ve been to sacrifice for your teammates because this event shouldn’t be about politics and it sure as hell shouldn’t be about Tim Thomas.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 23, 2012 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
Thomas' absence
turned a team function into a story all about himself and his personal politics. I guess he’ll be stumping for Romney next.
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Probably he’d stump for Gingrich, as would all fans of Glenn Beck, before he would Romney.
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by Bobby Canuck on Jan 23, 2012 4:48 PM PST up reply actions
Everything
makes a stink in the media. So I’m sure that he knew. But it’s the media who makes it out to be bigger than it is.
And I brought up my example to highlight because I wasn’t sure what your definition of hard way vs the easy way was. Not because I’m all hyped up on self-importance because I didn’t meet some political shtick…
Ultimately, how is this not about politics? The whole point of pro-sports teams going to meet the President at the White House in the nations Capital is so he can be seen chumming it up with a sports team that is celebrated by an entire city that has a mix of both republican and democrat. The entire event is a campaign stunt.
But
yours is just another way of saying that everything that the White House ever does, in any moment of the day, is self-serving politics.
It’s pretty callous to think that way, me things. I know that there is politics everywhere, but there must also be respect and decency in a few things that the White House is involved in. Could this be one of those? To honor sportsmanship? A thing that America highly values, according to the popularity of this activity.
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Using an example...
As Boston still seems to be the topic of the day / week (lol).
Take for instance that rat Brad Marchand visiting sicks kids in a hospital. I would never say the Bruins including Brad Marchand going to visit sick kids is all just self-serving publicity. I’m sure Marchand does care and that he does want to give back to the community. But you can’t tell me the team doesn’t take it as an opportunity for extra publicity as well?
I think the key point we disagree on is that there’s more than one agenda involved here. It’s not just about honoring sports, which I’m sure the White House visit is a part of. I’m sure part of it is. However you can’t just leave it black and white because nothing is ever that black and white, especially with politics.
There’s a reason why they go to the White House to visit the President, two of the biggest symbols of politics in the US. There’s a reason why these visits are all publicized and splashed across sports pages with the President beaming a smile and shaking hands with players.
So while it may not all be a publicity stunt, some part of it still is. And unlike sick kids whom everyone should lend a hand in helping, the President and the White House are entities that some may not like.
That’s why I think it was fine for Thomas to reject the visit. If his teammates were true teammates, they would have respected his views because he’s their teammate.
It's not a campaign stunt
It’s a tradition that happens election year or not and as you say your political leanings shouldn’t play into it at all. Put aside for a second that the president is the elected leader of his country and just consider the fact that he took an event that should transcend party politics and be simply an American celebration of sports and dragged it into the ugly mud slinging of a two party system. Completely unnecessary.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 23, 2012 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
But that's where again we disagree
IMO, it doesn’t transcend party politics because every administration that’s held office has taken it as an excuse to further their political image.
And who exactly are the ones slinging the mud? Thomas simply decided to refuse the invite. It’s the ones who took that as a major affront to a needless ritual that are doing the mud slinging.
Ultimately, this should be a non-issue. But some media / people made it out to be as such because they think Thomas should simply conform and obey.
I agree
It should be a non-issue because were talking about petty party differences but make no mistake, Tim Thomas made this an issue, not the media.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 23, 2012 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
If the media hadn't reported it
you wouldn’t have known about this. Tim Thomas didn’t pay for a section of the sports page to declare he wasn’t going, the media did that.
So it most definitely was the media who made it an issue.
Also
See what happens when the Canucks have so few games to play lol. We start having discussions on Tim Thomas not going to the White House…
Haha
Yeah exactly. Especially when Ballard and Coho are both getting their fair share of ice time and the Canucks are coming off a good game.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 23, 2012 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
My point
And I think we can both agree, is that Tim Thomas did this knowing full well that it would get picked up by the media. Therefore he knowingly created a media shitstorm. Therefore he is responsible.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 23, 2012 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
I mean
He planned a statement which he recently released. It’s not like this took him by surprise.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 23, 2012 4:25 PM PST up reply actions
the random CAps
are my favorite.
Its a shame that they are talking about this in the hockey world and in the American media ( CNN, etc ) instead of a nice traditional visit with the Champs, like happens every year.
Have to think its a little selfish myself. The team just got overshadowed by TT’s political views.
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Try wearing a Lu jersey. Holy hell, the razzing I got during the SCF. I even got shit from a homeless guy…
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Shit from a homeless guy?
I hope you don’t mean literally.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 23, 2012 4:47 PM PST up reply actions
Bahaha.
It was after Game 6 I believe, and I was walking through downtown. He started shouting Boooooo Luongo! Choker!
No loonies for him. Jeeeeerk.
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Haha
I have a picture in my head of a typical Canadian with a strong Canadian accent muttering “no loonies for him” as he walks away. not that that’s how I picture you, just it would be hilarious.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 23, 2012 5:33 PM PST up reply actions
I’m with Exand on this one.
Oh, and fuck what the media thinks.
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 23, 2012 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
The media will be spilt
On their opinions depending on their political leanings. The point is its all unnecessary and selfish.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 23, 2012 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
Or, maybe his teammates don’t give a flying fuck about what the media says and respect Timmy’s stance….leaving everyone else in the stupid world to dissect the hell out of it
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 23, 2012 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
They'll be a part of that dissection though
And for what? So Timmy could say to the world that he supports a political party? F him.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 23, 2012 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
Why does Tim Thomas get to drag hockey into politics and ugly American politics at that?
by Canuckelhead on Jan 23, 2012 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
zealotry
has more weight than not being hungry in that organization. To me, I’ll never be able to think of thomas as anything more than crackpot tea partying hypocritical prick. And frankly, although it may be incorrect in reality, my image of tea partiers also includes racist leanings.
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. racist leanings.
My first thought was that Thomas may have something similar in mind.
Using the term “political reasons” is a common blanket excuse in their quarters.
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Easy
Lets not turn this into a bigger thing than it is by jumping to the worst possible conclusions
by Canuckelhead on Jan 23, 2012 2:25 PM PST up reply actions
You know
if it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck….the conclusion is not too difficult.
But it’s obviously just my opinion.
Los Angeles, CA
Quacks like a duck?
I’ve never heard him say anything racist.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 23, 2012 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
What actions?
He’s a selfish a-hole but he hasn’t done anything racist.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 23, 2012 2:32 PM PST up reply actions
It may be off the topic
but we have a close friend in Seatlle, who is a Washington Superior Court judge. He told us some incredible stories about how rampant this is, amongst “perfectly nice people” that one would never even suspect.
Los Angeles, CA
yeah, I don’t think it’s fair to make that leap. There is absolutely no indication that TT has those tendencies and that is a pretty huge accusation/label to give someone
I don’t agree with his whole not attending the WH function (or his politics) but that doesn’t make him a racist. Pretty big leap to make
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Well,
I didn’t say that I think Thomas is a racist. I said my view of the tea party is that it has an undercurrent of racist leanings. I also tempered it with ‘it may be wrong, but…’, because that is how I view the tea party. It’s a movement that left it’s original ideology of ‘lighter government’ and replaced it with one that seems to get more airplay by preaching hate.
I’m not saying my view is accurate, i’m saying this is how the optics appear to me. The optics of the ideology, not the individual.
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No need to justify what you've said.
I know that you were talking in general terms.
After all, Canadians are supposed to be nice and proper, in polite society :=)
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I know Twitchy :) you did temper what you said :) I was more replying to different comment(s) that made the leap that because the Tea Party may seem to have racist leanings (and I don’t know enough to say that it does or not) then TT is likely a racist (guilty by association)
and I could have read too much into the other comments that I was responding to :)
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Granted
The Tea Party is also the ones who are less in bed with Hollywood trying to pass things like SOPA / PIPA and push ACTA on Europe, so they’re not all stuck in the dark ages lol. Of course their reasoning behind opposing those acts are far from ideal in modern society, but at least they’re opposing them.
SOPA/PIPA
is not an ideology, it’s one act. No one political party will support or oppose every law proposed to the liking of every person; it’s impossible, and frankly the world is only that black and white til you’re 12 years old. I would imagine that even within a party itself there would be dissension on particular subjects… but a political group’s holistic ideology is what attracts it’s members. Tolerance of peoples race, creed, religion and preferences with SOPA/PIPA is preferable to intolerance without it, in my mind.
And another note on SOPA/PIPA, until you’ve actually been an artist who’s livelihood depends on selling product, you can’t have the slightest idea how damaging copyright violation can be. The idea behind SOPA/PIPA is not egregious, although their execution was. I don’t know what the answer would be, but the reality is that the longer piracy is allowed to continue unchecked, the more it hurts the entertainment industry and thus the quality of product released. I’m not talking about Sony pictures losing 10 bux to someone downloading a particular film specifically, cuz it’s hard for us to put ourselves in a place where we can see the any hurt. But try to be a jr. or even mid-level musician who owes the record company/bank/your parents and friends thousands (or hundreds of thousands) of dollars for recording costs and see how piracy affects you. These are hard costs that need to be recouped… and it falls on the artist themselves to pay back those moneys. It’s a real problem that requires a real solution, and nobody’s found one that makes sense yet. SOPA/PIPA obviously aren’t it, because they go past piracy and into censorship, but there does have to be some kind of change.
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oops
sorry got a little ranty there…
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I never said (raaaaaaant incoming :P )
the idea behind SOPA / PIPA were wrong. I realize you think I wrote that because you probably think I’m one of those idiots who chirp that piracy and sharing is A-OK as long as people aren’t profiting from the pirated / shared works, but that’s definitely not what I think. Piracy and copyright laws do need to be revised and looked at.
Having said that, letting the MPAA and RIAA declare someone guilty before proving them innocent is simply wrong, and extending their already long reach to countries outside the US with their own self-serving rules (ACTA) is wrong as well. And when you add in people who clearly have no idea how the Internet works drafting up legislation (PIPA….) or how their absurd legislation could do more damage than not (DNS blocking… really?), I’m sorry but most of what is in SOPA / PIPA / ACTA is a bunch of garbage.
And the people behind those acts knew it as well. They loaded it up with a whole slew of inconceivable bits because they figured they could just drop a bit here and drop a bit there until the acts passed. While ACTA did go through because there was barely any public consultation process for opposition to mount, there was no way SOPA / PIPA would go through with the way the acts were structured.
Also just to add, I assume you didn’t mean anything by saying I don’t know how it feels… But I’ve worked in the creative media industry for decade(s) and I know full well what it feels like to have my work ripped off. In fact even in my younger days writing video game FAQ’s that I uploaded for free, I had my work ripped off by publications that charged money for their content. Heck, just the other month, I had to go after an online site that published a translation of an article I did for a fan site (which I gave the original site for free) because they ripped off my translation wholesale without giving any sort of credit back to the site (it wasn’t for me, it was for the small fan site so they could get credit for the work). But key there is I gave my original work out for free because I’m not all about making a buck. There’s a difference between compensating the creators and lining the pockets of corporate big wigs, and SOPA / PIPA was more about the coporate big wigs than helping the creators.
"declare someone guilty before proving them guilty"
Lol, freudian slip?
I’m still steamed I lost a large archive of files at Megaupload that I no longer have access to (files that belong to me and I was distributing through Mega).
If you follow American politics it’s as plain as the nose on my face that, to a fair extent, the tea party is tinged with racism. I receive many anti Obama emails from my high school graduating class in Brooklyn, N.Y., sent by the webmaster of the class website, and the out and out hatred and racism expressed in many of these emails is astounding to me. It’s like when Morgan Freeman was playing all those prezs in the movies, that was ok, cuz it wasn’t real. When the reality hit, all the closet racists came out of the woodwork. These people either belong outright to the tea party or at least sympathize completely with it.
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by Bobby Canuck on Jan 23, 2012 5:06 PM PST up reply actions
MolinariPG Dave Molinari
No fine or suspension for Penguins D Zbynek Michalek for hit on Washington’s Matt Hendricks Sunday.
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twolinepass ryan lambert
if opposing fans don’t rain “obama” chants down on thomas from now on im going to be very disappointed.
That would be pretty comical. Caps-Bruins game tomorrow…
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Also, Lambert is in his element right now. In fine troll-lololing form. Dude loves to bate people over twitter.
They once made a Kevin Bieksa toilet paper, but it wouldn't take shit from anybody.
Just
imagine the Bruins playing in Vancouver, and the crowd chanting “Obama”.
Just like the Bostonians were chanting Luongo’s name when Schneider was in net.
Los Angeles, CA
Or better yet
“four more years” or “yes we can”
by Canuckelhead on Jan 23, 2012 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
They would be mostly pro Obama tho wouldn’t they. Isn’t mass one of the more democratic states? If not the MOST pro-democratic states.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 23, 2012 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
JSportsnet John Shannon
NHL suspends Ovechkin for 3 games for hit on ZMichalek.
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gotta say
No problem with the length of the suspension. He’s dirty. Deal with it. I do however have a HUGE issue with Michalek getting ZERO for his headshot in the same game. Garbage.
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That is huge.
In the past, stars were kind of exempt from suspensions. Ovi probably has the second biggest star-power in the league.
May be the Maya’s were right, and the world is coming to an end.
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Good, that was definitely a bad hit
Hopefully this also keeps the “the NHL is biased to superstars” troglodytes in the woods where they belong.
Meanwhile:
The NHL is discussing the possibility to advance money to the New Jersey Devils so that they can continue to operate through the season, the New York Post has reported.
WTF happened to New Jersey? I could see a sun belt team having financial troubles, but Jersey?
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they've been scraping by
for years and years. Not the first time the NHL has had to jump in and help.
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It is unbelievable.
The second largest hockey market after the Toronto area, and they are in danger of bankruptcy?
Los Angeles, CA
The market
is saturated. Phi/NYR/NYI/NJ just comes down to too many teams in that area, population be damned. The Devils haven’t been welcomed there, no matter how long they’ve been around. Cups or no Cups.
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they also moved to an unpopular location for their fanbase – mostly burb-based, making driving into Newark a pain – and the team was also forced to carry more of the cost of the arena when the political climate changed out of their favor and lost a lot of their subsidy.
The thing is, most of us in Vancouver are burb-based too. It’s a bitch and a half to get to the games. Especially since we are on of the few (only?) big cities in N America that doesn’t have a highway connected to downtown. But I would assume downtown Vancouver has slightly more allure than Newark… ; )
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With the NBA Nets moving to Brooklyn
Does that leave the Devils as the only major franchise in the Prudential Center? I wonder what their deal with the arena is like.
Woohoo Quebec City Devils!!!
Too soon?
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So, the
Coyotes go to southern Ontario. The world is as it should be.
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by Smoboy41 on Jan 23, 2012 5:51 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Bah
if they go anywhere, I want it to be Seattle. :)
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Balsillie
Got canned though
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 23, 2012 7:11 PM PST up reply actions
Tim Thomas's
statement about not attending.
They once made a Kevin Bieksa toilet paper, but it wouldn't take shit from anybody.
Thomas’
poo punctuation…
They once made a Kevin Bieksa toilet paper, but it wouldn't take shit from anybody.
Statement in full
I believe the Federal government has grown out of control, threatening the Rights, Liberties, and Property of the People.
This is being done at the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial level. This is in direct opposition to the Constitution and the Founding Fathers vision for the Federal government.
Because I believe this, today I exercised my right as a Free Citizen, and did not visit the White House. This was not about politics or party, as in my opinion both parties are responsible for the situation we are in as a country. This was about a choice I had to make as an INDIVIDUAL.
This is the only public statement I will be making on this topic. TT
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Get ready
for the Tim Thomas Militia. Fucking nutbar.
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I dunno
That kinda lessens his dickishness to me
by Canuckelhead on Jan 23, 2012 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
He’s from the same city as Michael Moore.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 23, 2012 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
I always
think that even if you don’t respect the guy currently holding it, you ought to at least show respect for the office itself if it’s something that you think is important. After all, someone you respect may actually be sitting there one day, and you’re kind of a hypocrite if at that point you expect other people to act like it should have some meaning…
However, it looks like Tim doesn’t respect the office no matter who’s holding it at the moment, so I guess his stance kind of makes sense. Though I’m not sure what the point is in grandstanding about an office you feel is irrelevant, I’m also currently distracted by this cute picture of a gecko, so whatever!
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I honestly don’t buy it. If there was a republican president in power, I think he’d go. I can’t prove that, so whatever.
Ultimately he’s still making it about himself when it should be about his team.
My feeling is you’re probably right, I just can’t bring myself to care enough to try and make an educated guess as to what he’s really thinking. :) So It’s easier to just go, LOLThomas and move on.
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I don't
particularly care, either. I just like getting angry about random things.
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by Smoboy41 on Jan 23, 2012 5:53 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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C'mon
He doesn’t want to be let be. He wants to make a political statement and that is inevitably going to stir discussion. That’s the goal when you make loud political statements.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 23, 2012 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
And how's that
the fault of the White House, more than of the Senate, the Congress, etc, etc.?
Blah, blah,
Los Angeles, CA
all you need to know about this...
stevelepore Steve Lepore
Mike Milbury called Tim Thomas’ decision “kinda nuts to me.” I really hope Tim Thomas sees that, and takes a good, hard look at himself.
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I really hope
This divides the bruins room, if even subtly. They are hinting at it on 1040 and I don’t think it’s crazy.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 23, 2012 5:31 PM PST up reply actions
yup
and it should be pointed out, Thomas missed an appearance at a Boys & Girls Club. So his ’non’political statement also saw him pass on a visit with poor kids. Can’t see how that’s something at least one person in their room looks at and thinks ‘good god, what a douchebag’.
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Especially since when you bring politics into a place it doesn’t belong like this inevitably someone has the opposite opinion.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 23, 2012 6:24 PM PST up reply actions
great point Kent
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why would it?
he’s the only american on the team
welllll
Ference for one is pretty left leaning guy…and they have all lived in America most of their Pro lives, a lot of them…
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because he placed himself over the team
should one stand by their convictions? sure. but he had an opportunity to meet face to face someone he thinks is harming his country. Instead of intelligently presenting his concerns, whatever they may be, he stayed at home and fired off a confusing, Unibomber-esque rant on facebook. surely someone has to have that seed of doubt there about Tim and his priorities.
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The placing yourself in front of the team thing. For something as trivial as political leanings. Using what should be a fun team event to get on your soapbox and they might only be a little irked but that might be a little more when they start having to answer unending questions about it tomorrow.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 23, 2012 8:46 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
A baby gif to offset the political discussion...
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by raincity on Jan 23, 2012 4:11 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
and if that doesn't work for you
http://devastatingexplosions.com/
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i keep waiting
for little keslet to take lappy into the boards hard for smirking at him.
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Or telling Lappy
that Kelley’s a hell of a girl.
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by Smoboy41 on Jan 23, 2012 4:55 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Or Lappy sticking his fingers near Kes Jr’s mouth to see if he bites
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 23, 2012 7:14 PM PST up reply actions
dont wanna see
little kes slappin wood?
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by Twitchy2010 on Jan 23, 2012 5:29 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I am a bad man like you.
So…+1!!
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 23, 2012 7:14 PM PST up reply actions
it's the littlest beastmode ever!
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so cute
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Sorry to steer this back towards the Canucks
But I was looking at zone starts and saw this:
1 – Manny Malhotra 13.3%
2 – Maxim Lapierre 17.4%
3 – Dale Weise 19.9%
That’s in the whole League. The 4th line is basically defensive zone specialists. And that’s a pretty good line for a defensive unit
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by Semi_Colon on Jan 23, 2012 5:58 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Sorry
Im confused what this has to do with the White House and Tim Thomas ;P
by Canuckelhead on Jan 23, 2012 6:12 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
In all seriousness
That’s pretty impressive and that’s a pretty sick fourth line. Now if we could just trade Raymond for some size that can play on the second or third line the Canucks will have a team that can roll four lines.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 23, 2012 6:25 PM PST up reply actions
They already can
Our 2nd line is dominant along the boards and Raymond compliments Hodgson and Hansen well IMO.
by Jordan Clarke on Jan 23, 2012 6:27 PM PST up reply actions
I'm still concerned
That the forwards might not have enough grit when it comes to playing a team like the kings (or a couple eastern teams) in the playoffs.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 23, 2012 8:49 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Seriously
The depth on the forwards this year is so much better than last year
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This is a solid blog from a Sharks wroter
that makes a strong case for why you don’t trade Mase.
Nice to see it from the opposing viewpoint as well.
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Nice article
I think the writer undervalues the Canucks fans’ appreciation of Mason Raymond’s importance to the team in general. I think most people here agree that his shot could be better and that he can work on that aspect, and I think there’s a sense of excitement as to the incredible possibilities a line of Raymond, CoHo and Hansen can bring to the team dynamic.
As to a power forward, was he excluding Booth from the discussion because he hasn’t seen him play that much pre and post injury? He gives the 2nd line two power forwards, each of whom is killer fast, strong on the puck, has great shot and skill and can stand in the crease and screen and tip. Combined, the 2nd and 3rd lines have fantastic intensity, skill and smarts. We are so luckin’ fucky.
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by Bobby Canuck on Jan 23, 2012 10:49 PM PST up reply actions
The thing I like about Raymond is that he’s so fast but also that he can pretty much turn 180 degrees on a dime which pulls defenders out of position and he’s able to create a lot of space. We were missing that when we started the season and I really think his return helped the team return to form. At least it was a contributing factor in the return to form for the team.
Wow, nice article!
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by Big Blue Whale on Jan 24, 2012 1:38 AM PST up reply actions
https://twitter.com/#!/iamjohnnycanuck/status/161640615354974208/photo/1
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Imma steal that
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 23, 2012 7:15 PM PST up reply actions
lol
good thing I know him, but make sure and give Johnny Canuck credit, eh?
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 23, 2012 7:17 PM PST up reply actions
no
the guy from the youtube video. he made that.
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