Canucks Recall Chris Tanev
by Sean Zandberg on Jan 18, 2012 5:03 PM PST
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PrintMike Gillis announced today that the team has recalled the 22 year-old defenceman from the Chicago Wolves. Tanev has no goals and 12 assists, 25 shots and is a +5 in 25 games with the Wolves this season. NM's Wolves insider Ggooglyboogly mentioned this week:
Chris Tanev is just solid, probably should be in the NHL, i can’t say enough good things about him.
And that is what most Canucks fans think of Tanev after seeing his composure in a Canucks uni last season. Tanev only played 3 games for the Canucks at the beginning of this season before being sent down for developing. The Canucks already had a plethora of defencemen on their roster, with
Andrew Alberts and Alexander Sulzer being the 7th and 8th defencemen.
So now, with no Canucks games until Saturday, we have plenty of time to speculate. Gary Valk said after the Canucks-Kings game that Sami Salo was fine, or close to being ready, or something like that. I'm not aware of any other injuries to the Canucks' D. Does Sulzer get sent down now? Is a defenceman about to be traded? Or is this just the team trying to ice the best 6 defencemen possible, as the current group has been struggling mightily? As I said earlier: we know what Tanev brings to the table, which is a very composed and effective game for such a young guy. That is something that has been lacking from the D in recent games.
When Keith Ballard struggled in Game 4 of the Stanley Cup Finals, Tanev was called in for Game 5. He was so cool that Kevin Bieksa quipped:
"He could have played with a cigarette in his mouth. Everyone saw the way he played — very cool, very consistent with the puck."
That's high praise from an NHL veteran.
-Tanev has no goals in 37 NHL games, but he did score this one in preseason:
Tip of le chapeau to Daoust501 for the heads up on the Tanev Recall.
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'sabout effin time
The D has looked mostly craptacular of late.
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first in the league goal?
complete!
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by Yankee Canuck on Jan 18, 2012 5:47 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
oh my god
romance explosion
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jan 18, 2012 9:32 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
this is just an aside
but people who rank Edler ahead of Juice and Hamhuis on our depth chart are being.
Hamjuice is the top pairing.
The people who voted
For him to go to the All-star game would disagree. Our teams defensive depth chart is hard to rank and I don’t think puting any of Hamhuis, Edler or Salo at the top would be being silly
by Canuckelhead on Jan 18, 2012 6:43 PM PST up reply actions
i sense
a common thread there…
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Edler + Salo is gold though
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 18, 2012 6:21 PM PST up reply actions
ah I see. I am thinking too much in the present
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 18, 2012 6:26 PM PST up reply actions
Is it possible
People are remembering Tanev being a little better than he is? I mean, there’s a reason he’s been playing on the farm and the minutes he played last year were mostly sheltered. Promising defenseman? Obviously. But, presently he doesn’t really solve any problems and anyone who expects him to is setting up for disappointment. A depth dman but I’m not even so sure he’s a big upgrade on Alberts and if Ballard sits after he’s played pretty solid the last few games I may poop my pants.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 18, 2012 6:47 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
He was always so calm under pressure and made simple plays. Very crisp, precise passes too. I certainly don’t think he is a step down.
If nothing else, if gives us something interesting to talk about over the next few days. It does seem to suggest a trade is coming though.
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and if Ballard sits after he’s played pretty solid the last few games I may poop my pants.
I want some of the drugs you are on :) He has not been that good at all.
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 18, 2012 8:14 PM PST up reply actions
Considering the short leash he's on
I think he’s played pretty well most games. Including last game. Much better gap control than Alberts and he has the ability to get back in position in a way that Alberts and Rome can’t.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 18, 2012 9:38 PM PST up reply actions
You cannot speak ill of Aaron Rome! I forbid it!
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 18, 2012 10:48 PM PST up reply actions
I apologize
I don’t know where my head was at. That blasphemy will be my last.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 18, 2012 11:02 PM PST up reply actions
it was a weird game
we saw the best and worst of Ballard in his first game back in.
I vote he is in with Tanev, for what that is worth, but I have also noticed the last few games that Bones will change up the pairings in the third pretty easy.
Tanev Edler in the third when they go to two pairings?
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PIM
0 minutes in his career? nice. try to stay that way!
so we have two rookies who are potential lady byng winners.
oh and on rosterbating...
edler + raymond + 2nd rounder for weber sounds about right. haven’t looked up Left vs Right side D-man though. maybe someone can make a table for the canucks.
nope
I don’t think the Preds would go for this.
by Kelownakid_2000 on Jan 18, 2012 8:09 PM PST up reply actions
probably
but the weber camp has been less than enthusiastic in committing to nashville. yes he’s RFA so nashville can keep him around, but maybe they decide ryan suter is the one and end up selling weber.
price is negotiable ;)
I think you really try to avoid trading Eddy
but his value is high, what with being great and an AS now. His contract is up in a year I think right?
Weber is right side. Eddy plays both, but is better on the Left. I think you try to keep Edler and make that your superpairing, with Hamhuis ?Juice the second, and Tanev whomever your third ) because you you do have to move some $$$ to fit in a top priced D’man.
Man. That pairing would obliterate guys in the corners!
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I don't think they would go for that
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
by Semi_Colon on Jan 19, 2012 4:44 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I don’t think they would either, and I’m not sure the Canucks should in any event.
As much as it pains me to say this, I think Weber is getting a little bit overrated. Would love to have him, but if we can have Edler for cheaper (plus Raymond, etc) I think you go that route.
I’d much prefer to try to sign him when he goes UFA year after next.
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also
Edler is left , Salo and Tanev are right. Weber is also right side
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by Semi_Colon on Jan 19, 2012 4:45 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
From Canucks.com "Letters to the Editor"
I was at the Canucks game in Ottawa routing on Vancouver as I always do! Every year I go see the game in ottawa and wear only body paint to the game. This year was different. I was approached during the warm up skate by someone who worked at the arena and they told me that If I did not have proper shorts on I would be ejected from the game…… this was ridiculous to me because I had on proper shorts. Apparently an ottawa fan had complained about me. I quickly approached the glass behind the vancouver bench which was where I was seated and spoke through the glass to the Vancouver Canuck equip manager explaining my situation. To my surprise, he went to the dressing room and threw me a pair of shorts over the glass so that I could stay in the game! The Vancouver Canuck fans went nuts and I was able to stay in the game and cheer the Canucks on!!! Just wanted to say thank you again!
That’s awesome.
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by raincity on Jan 18, 2012 7:53 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
that is awesome indeed!
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 18, 2012 8:15 PM PST up reply actions
only thing more awesome
would be if that person were a girl.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jan 18, 2012 9:34 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
AV: Salo is feeling much better. He is starting concussion protocol and everything is on track.
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I was surprised seing Tanev “demoted” to the minors after being in last year’s final. He looked so calm and promising out there.
Now I think that this was the plan all along. Play Ballard, build up his confidence, so that his value gets at least close to the 4 mil that he is paid, and then trade him, while bringing back Tanev. Sounds like a sound plan to me, although I still believe that Ballard has the potential to become a great defenseman. But Ballard and AV just don’t mix well, so I guess he will get his chance somewhere else.
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Ballard’s offensive style could be useful to other teams. He’s a pretty good D man. He just doesn’t fit in the current makeup of our D. Edler/Ballard as a 2nd pairing is not a good combo…Edler needs someone more steady and safe to balance him out (like Salo). And Ballard would have been playing on his off side. He’s also too expensive to be our 5th or 6th D man.
I think the Ballard vs AV thing is a bit overblown. He doesn’t fit in the top 4, and he’s not the steady, plodding safe D type one usually has in their 3rd pairing.
I feel bad for him. He seems like a great guy, who’s on a team where he doesn’t quite fit roster-wise. I hope if he is traded that he finds success.
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I agre he doesn't fit on this team
But why on earth would you want a “plodding” dman on the third pairing if you didn’t have to? If you have 6 great dmen you play all of them.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 18, 2012 9:37 PM PST up reply actions
The problem with Ballard is that any possible role he can play that suits his strengths is being filled by someone who does it better.
The problem is actually that the coaches don’t want him to play the game that made his successful in the past and that’s been well documented by both player and coach. Whether av is right or not is a different discussion but that’s the problem. For whatever reason he’s being told to play a game that doesn’t suit his strengths.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 18, 2012 9:41 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That’s because they’re using him as a 3rd pairing d-man and putting him in 3rd pairing situations. His game is high risk and not great in those situations at all.
I don’t want you to take this the wrong way, but I don’t know how to discuss this with you without getting it out of the way: I know you really dislike AV, and I can’t help but think the only reason you’re saying you like the way Ballard plays is because it gives you something to rag AV on. And yeah, that’s why I was a dick to you the other day (and I was wrong to do that)
I just can’t for the life of me see how Ballard has been good for us. He just doesn’t fit.
How could I take it the wrong way
Youre absolutely right. Here’s the thing tho. I started as an AV fan. Maybe hard to believe, but it’s true. I think he’s a great coach but I’ve come to realize he’s, in my opinion, the Canucks weakest link and the Ballard scenario is one example why. I think we can all agree GMMG is a pretty good GM, so why would he pick up a dman who demands 4 million a year in the cap era but can’t even get into our lineup? The answer is he wouldn’t. Ballard is a good NHL caliber dman but for whatever reason AV doesn’t like his style. His style is a guy who moves the puck well but can also carry it out of the zone. Great qualities in a dman. He’s capable of getting back if he gets caught because he skates so well. He also brings an uncommon physical aspect to the game for a guy his size. What’s happened to him in the last two years is he’s been over scrutinized by a coach (and now the fanbase) to the point of lunacy and as a result he’s not nearly as effective as he once was. I’m not creating any of that, it’s well documented. He’s admitted how hard last season was for him. Here’s the thing that gets me. Ballard has always had a shorter leash than any dman with AV, coaches have always and will always do that with certain players, but the part that put me over the edge was in the finals last year when he put Ballard in the top pairing. From the press box to the top pairing? It’s like AV wants to prove to everyone how right he is regardless of what’s best for the team. Now that relationship has soured to the point that he’ puting in Sulzer before ballard? How is that justifiable? Sulzer is a fringe AHL dman. So no, you’re right he doesn’t fit but stop and think for one second what could have been if he’d ever really been given a shot with this team. Also, a good dman is a good dman whether he’s playing 1st pairing minutes or 3rd pairing minutes and Keith Ballard was/is a good dman and when he finally gets moved everyone will see that. People will say he wasn’t a “fit” with the team. But the truth is he isn’t a “fit” with this coach and he never was and that ego bs is one of the reasons I’m not AV’s biggest fan. It was the same thing to a lesser degree with coho this season until hodgson made it impossible to sit him.
P.S. forget about what happened the other day if anyone is a dick to me I’m sure I deserve it and if I’m going to be a guy who presents argumentative opinions I better be able to handle it. So, all good by me.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 18, 2012 10:58 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Woa woa woa. Think of it this way: AV answers to Gillis. Gillis answers to ownership. You can’t just knock AV for misusing a $4 million asset. This “misusing” is understood from the top-down. You don’t think they have management meetings and discuss it? Damned rights they do. It’s a $4 million asset / cost!
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 18, 2012 11:30 PM PST up reply actions
Then why misuse him from the very beginning?
Guys like Alberts, Tanev and Sulzer (and he who shall not be named) are given every opportunity to make mistakes and are nurtured along. Why not Ballard? He has the best pedigree and upside by a mile. From the very start of last year Ballard was treated oddly. People said it was because he was coming off surgery and probably still injured. Then when it became apparent that excuse wasn’t the answer people started questioning the relationship with the coach. But to some that can’t be the answer now? When it’s the only logical one? Ballard was a high first round draft pick who showed a lot of promise and was rewarded with a big contract, too big I’ll admit, but still he was a dman on the rise in a league always short of dmen, then suddenly he comes to the Canucks and any promise he showed completely evaporates within a season and a half? I don’t think that’s a coincidence.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 19, 2012 12:18 AM PST up reply actions
Look
My problem is not that AV is a bad person because ballard is in his doghouse. I can’t stand when people pretend this is something else because coaches have odd relationships with players all the time and I’m sure he has his reasons and they probably make more sense than I can understand. My problem comes from AV puting the team behind him having to be right about Ballard. Like throwing him to the wolves in the SCF, benching him for things all players do and then puting him in the press box for any warm body like say Sulzer. Really, Sulzer? I’m sure some of that stems from showing the boss he’s right about a missed investment but it reeks of ego and it’s bad for the team.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 19, 2012 12:29 AM PST up reply actions
I think
that there was probably something we don’t know, as to how far a guy like say , Bieksa ( the guy they would probably have thought Ballard replaced in the line up, being that they play a similar game ) might have been close to moving on at some point around when they got Bally.
He stayed, and now you have a guy that does not fit on the third pairing.
The rest has just been AV and Ballard being as pro about it as they can. I totally see AV not wanting a swashbuckler on the third pairing, when they are usually out against lower level guys whose first option is hit. he wants the puck out “easy and early”, as he says.
Ballard is a solid d man, and I am reasonably sure that he could help another team. Its all about what they need. I think you see Tanev move onto the right in Salo’s absence, and the other three make up the bottom pairing until Sami comes back.
As well, if we are not privy to shit like maybe Sami’s concussion is really bad, then yeah, perhaps a trade is coming.
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Ballard is not a swashbuckling dman
Im not even sure what gave you that idea. He is a dman with offensive upside who plays solid in his own zone. Guys who are simply swashbuckling dmen dont get 4 million dollar contracts, in fact very few of them exist in the NHL. He’s fine playing third pairing minutes as he proved with Chris Tanev last year. This whole concept of first pairing and third pairing as you see it is flawed. Sometimes you have a guy with no offensive upside in your top pairing, like Willie Mitchell. The only reason you don’t offen see dmen with offensive upside in the third pairing is because they tend to be expensive and rare so you see a guy who only plays one end of the rink cause that’s what you can afford there. GMMG knew the Canucks weren’t going to have a top pairing and so he went out to build defensive depth so that you dont have a significant drop off from the first to third pairing and so you don’t have to make one guy log big minutes he cant handle. If Ballard had been handled better that’s exactly what they’d have. As much as you say I’m critical of AV, you are blind to the fact that the man could and does make mistakes. He’s human. So, in the interest of finding common ground lets do this. I’ll say one big positive that AV brings as a coach and you say a big negative. I’ll go first; AV has always handled the very difficult media in Vancouver with grace and intelligence. That’s huge for any coach in this market who wants to last and it makes a big difference for the team. The man is calm, cool and collected in front of a blood thirty media and when he’s gone that aspect of him as a coach will be missed.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 19, 2012 8:57 AM PST up reply actions
dude
now you want to argue with me over semantics?
Come on now.
Ballard has been handled fine, but your huge blind spot prevents any conversation on this subject, so don’t bother responding there either.
Its just too much. 1st, you have a problem with a word I have used to describe him (honestly, if you look at any highlights of his time in Florida and Pheonix, it is an apt word for him )
Then the assumption that Ballard has been used wrong. THEN, the part that just astounds me, the attempted defense of AV as being “human”. Of course people make mistakes….all of us do.
I, for one, don’t think my opinion is infallible…but I don’t have a negative thing to say about AV, so I wont to assuage you.
You are critical of AV, and most everyone here has read it. Thats fine, I respect your opinion, and its valuable to have dissenting opinions to keep the conversation lively. I also get that there is a kernel of truth here and there.
The thing is, it gets so tied up in hyperbole and over the top rhetoric that it is not fun any more.
You see, there are many ways to respond. I hope I don’t get the "you must be crazy, wrong, whatever if you disagree, but seeing as I get it often ( its not a point scoring thing mon frere, lets just talk ) it gets boring. Like the way you put it in there that “when he is gone”. Another huge assumption. It also presupposes failure, and I just can’t go there. Its an ugly side of Canuck fandom ( and one that I grew up around, and have seen in people my whole life. I can spot the warning signs. Its a disease. You have the best team in the West, possible, and all (not just you, but that segment of the fandom ) the rampant negativity and overblowing every little thing gets to be so…well, tiresome.
Like, for instance, the assumption from some that “AV has lost the room” or there is a “rift” over what happened with the overblown Kes comments.
Predictable, and not just lumping you in with that. But it is tough to not see the similarities.
I’ll try. Lets see, I think AV could be better at the way he tries to defend his players. Sometimes it is a product of the French mind trying to express itself in English, but things like the Marchand comment did not further his team.
But really, the assumption that one of the statistically top pairings last year ( combined +/-, for instance ) of Bieksa and Hamhuis is not a top pairing on any team in the NHL is just not shown to be true by the facts.
My thoughts is that the man wanted to have as many options and plans as possible. It seems to be his way of doing business.
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Easy
Like it or not AV is not going to be coach of this team one day, i mean if nothing else the guys gonna die at some point right? ;). I wasn’t puting a time table on when he was going to be gone just that he will be one day.
You’re right, let’s get rid of the hyperbole. You say Ballard has been handled fine and I disagree. I think he’s been treated unfairly and I’ll give you one specific example that i feel is the most glaring and indefensible. Why would you take a guy from the press box and put him in the top pairing in the SCF? How is a player supposed to come in cold to that incredibley hostile environment? There’s not an NHL player in the world that you would expect that from but somehow it’s ok for the Keith Ballard?
by Canuckelhead on Jan 19, 2012 9:29 AM PST up reply actions
I know
I honestly don’t know how to put things with you bro’, without getting harangued for it.
Sorry if I went over the top.
Yes, I do think Ballard has been handled just fine. In a hockey mad town….with everyone having an opinion, AV has dealt with him fairly and honestly.
Just my opinion.
I do think, Sean, that his confidence is down, but that is natural. I do think that his skills are underrated here as a result of…well, the results!
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As an aside
I never once commented on AV “losing the room”. All I ever said about that was negative to Kesler and in fact I think AV handled that tough situation better than most would have. So, it’s a little frustrating that you would even bring that up, especially since it has zero relevance to what were talking about.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 19, 2012 9:35 AM PST up reply actions
I just don’t know why you say Ballard is solid in his own zone. I have seen a lot of unintellectual plays from the guy when under pressure or not. I think he is blunderous even. You say that is from lack of confidence….well, I won’t disagree or agree because I don’t know for sure. All I know is that given his contract and his quality of play it’s gonna be hard to move him.
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 19, 2012 2:37 PM PST up reply actions
Well I can certainly agree with that. I don’t know how they move him at this point. Speaking of blunderous that trade is a black mark for GMMG on an otherwise pretty spotless record.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 19, 2012 3:32 PM PST up reply actions
yes, it is a black mark
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 19, 2012 8:09 PM PST up reply actions
that was NOT you
actually. That was just my disapproval of the media in this city, as I heard that kinda unsubstantiated over reach from fans there ( and weirdly, Marty McSorley…someone with no real ties to Vancouver except an assault charge )…
It was taking the shit to an Nth level, by them, and that was what I was talking about, not you.
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I get it
I just want to point out that if I was a blind AV hater, like some, I would have used that opportunity to pile on but I didn’t because I’m not.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 19, 2012 5:16 PM PST up reply actions
We used to have a blind AV hater here and Mike Gillis told me to get rid of him
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 19, 2012 8:10 PM PST up reply actions
heheh
no comment?
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 19, 2012 9:46 PM PST up reply actions
I think..
The problem I see is that no one would have made a trade where Ballard replaced Bieksa because the Canucks biggest weakness is right-side D and there’s no point getting rid of arguably your top right-side D (Bieksa) for a left-side D on a team that’s already overloaded with left-side D.
Ballard for Suter
PREPARE YOURSELVES, ITS COMIN’.
Also, Tanev was money during the playoffs last year. Glad to see he’s back.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jan 18, 2012 9:35 PM PST reply actions
Glorious trade
But I don’t think that’s gonna happen.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 18, 2012 10:08 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
But while we're rosterbating
Weber would bring size and real toughness that this team sorely needs.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 18, 2012 10:59 PM PST up reply actions
you...
shut up!
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they are both left side unfortunately
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by Semi_Colon on Jan 19, 2012 4:47 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I don’t know that any preds will be available as rentals while they’re in a playoff spot.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 18, 2012 11:06 PM PST up reply actions
If Ballard ever gets traded
and that’s a big if, the Canucks will get the short end of the straw in that trade. He is not worth $4 million. And the dream that some team grabs him to keep above the salary cap floor is silly.
And do you know why all this will never happen, because Ballard does not play top 4 minutes and not many teams will take a chance that he can be a top 4 defenseman with their team. $4 million is a big risk for a maybe.
Besides, the Canucks philosophy the past few years has been, “You can never have too many d-men”. And this has been proven with the amount of injuries we have had in past years.
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totally doubt that
for a couple reasons. GMMG is a guy all about asset management. This guy is no Bernier, an out and out mistake. he is just a high risk Dman in a low risk position.
I can totally see him being a significant piece, but maybe he gets thrown in as the clincher for a REALLY top pairing guy.
Juice and Hamhuis become your second pairing, and Tanev and whomever handles the scraps. Or, you have the Salo option on any other pairing as the Bomb on the PP ( can you just see Salo and say Weber moving back and forth from the magic shooty spot, or just bombing from whereever on the 1st unit?)
Niiiicccccceeeee
The other reason is I really don’t think that GMs around the league that have seen Bally, know him, or had him on their team would discount him because of his time in Vancouver. He plays and gets his value up, and is probably traded if the young guy ( Tanev is right side, but has filled in better as a rookie on the left better than Bally has went the other way. he is a strong Left guy, but just is not great on the right. Some can, some can’t!)
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Agree to disagree
I think Ballard is stuck here. Although I wonder if Winnipeg would consider Oduya for Ballard, or is Ballard’s contract too rich.
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of course he is stuck
but the problem is a square peg in a round hole, not his talent.
The contract is a bit of a misnomer, but thats OK to think about it as too much. it is for the 3rd pairing. It is not for the player though. Thats the only distinction I am making there.
Oduya is alright. Winnipeg is a team that needs a defenseman like him. If you traded with them though, you make up a packjage and get Buf’ , just for the tasty irony!
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On his side?
Clearing out? Watching from the other end the tasty bite of irony as he sets up in front of Crawford on the PP?
Make it happen Gillis! ;-)
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The Canucks
can always pick up part of his contract. Say….half a million or so. That will count against their cap hit, but if they find a great fit in someone else, it may be worth for them to carry a small part of Ballard’s contract.
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