Morning Buzz: Canucks can't match Kings; Crosby's ongoing saga; 30 stitches & 30 thoughts
by Jordan Clarke on Jan 18, 2012 8:00 AM PST
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PrintIt's a snow day here in Victoria, with all the schools and many businesses closing shop. If you're one of the lucky few who gets to stay indoors, why not grab a fresh Canadiano (or whichever caffeinated beverage you prefer in the morning) and settle in with some links?
Vancouver Canucks news & notes:
Nucks Misconduct got a quote in Puck Daddy yesterday, in the piece about Ryan Kesler. Check it:
It was called an "overblown media mess" and "much ado about nothing" in the Vancouver Province. Nucks Misconduct joked "Clearly Coach V has lost the room! No seriously, Rogers Arena is very big and sometimes he gets turned around." Legion of Blog turned it into a Top Gun parody.
Someone placed a bottle of Aunt Jemima behind Dustin Penner on the Kings bench last night. Awesome. [Twitter]
David Booth scored in his second game back on a beauty pass from the Honey Badger. And hey, Mike Richards didn't end his season with a vicious headshot. Bonus!
(Notice the sweet little pick play by Hodgson on Mitchell to free up space for Hansen.)
Three quick thoughts from the game last night. [Head to the Net]
Well, we know there's one opposition player on a rival that has nothing but respect for the Sedins. Thanks, Willie! Interesting bit on the 2003 playoffs, especially since the twins have been oft-criticized for their past playoff performances. [The White Towel]
PITB explores all the reasons why Shea Weber would look awesome in a Canucks uniform, and all the reasons why it's so unlikely to happen. [Pass it to Bulis]
A bike shop based in Surrey is designed a Canucks-themed motorcycle in an effort to win the 2012 Vancouver Motorcycle Show. [Canucks Army]
Today in Canucks History: [Jan 18, 1998] NHL All-Star Game held in Vancouver for the first time since Jan. 25, 1977. The North American All-Stars defeated the World Team All Stars 8-7. Mark Messier played for N. America and recorded a goal and an assist. Pavel Bure played for the World Team and recorded an assist.
NHL news & notes:
Taylor Hall's face was cut in a freak collision with teammates during warm-up. He received 30 stitches but it sounds like he's doing well.
Kris Letang has been cleared to play after his concussion and is hoping to return before the All-Star Game. [CBC]
Martin Brodeur is considering the possibility of coming back for one more season after his contract expires next summer. [TSN]
To the chagrin of John Tortorella, Rangers owner James Dolan grabbed the mic last night and announced that he believes his team is "pretty close" to winning its first Stanley Cup since...that one year a while ago. [ProHockeyTalk]
Ryan Miller hasn't been himself since the Milan Lucic hit. In fact, doesn't it feel like he's been just a tiny bit whiny since? He was rightfully choked about being run over, but with last night's rant to the media, he's on a bit of an indignant streak. [The Hockey Writers]
Speaking of goalies unraveling, Ilya Bryzgalov has been downright brutal since his star turn on HBO's 24/7 series. Look at his stats before and after the infamous "universe" speech. [Puck Daddy]
Cam Cole wonders if Sidney Crosby's clock is ticking. [National Post] The stress some in the hockey world are carrying about whether or not Crosby will ever be dominant and healthy again is almost palpable.
Elliotte Friedman's latest 30 Thoughts has more on Sid's recovery. [CBC]
Patrice Bergon, Crosby's good friend and the one player who has managed to turn his career around after a string of devastating concussions, is having an All-Star worthy season. [CSNNE.com]
The NHL All-Star Game has lost a bit of its luster over the years. Here are 10 ways to improve it. [Puck Puck Goose]
Today in NHL History: Willie O'Ree became the first black player in NHL history, suiting up for the Boston Bruins in a game against the Montreal Canadiens. The story.
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Camosun, UVic and Royal Roads still open
and i still have my 8:30 class.
plus, i might have to go straight to work after class.
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the gf goes to Royal Roads and was told her classes are cancelled. I just made it into work. Be safe out there!
by Jordan Clarke on Jan 18, 2012 8:58 AM PST up reply actions
followed bctransit on twitter
they shut down the royal roads section of that bus route.
helmcken is getting it bad, apparently.
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Just as an opposing teams fan who likes to hear from the opposition
This is just my opinion, but I feel it damages the credibility of your blog when the writer who writes the recap complains about the pick the Kings set on their second goal and defends Hodgson as not a pick and then one post later you commend Hodgson for a sweet little pick. I have no problem with the second, you identified a good discreet hockey play. I just think the first may be why Canucks fans have a reputation.
by klink3115 on Jan 18, 2012 8:51 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
A reputation for what?
You mean rioting after we lose? Or having ridiculous expectations of our star players? Or maybe you’re referring to our reputation for not being loud enough in Rogers arena? Perhaps you’re talking about our reputation for knee jerk reactions in call In shows? Or is it more of a general Canadian thing, like our reputation for being too polite. Wait a minute, I think you’re just talking about a home team bias. Which every fucking fan base has. Thanks for your help in trying to sort out our “reputation” but that would probably sort itself all out when we have a some losing seasons and people stop caring. Kinda the way nobody cares about the Kings, even in L.A.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 18, 2012 9:20 AM PST up reply actions
I Might Very Well Be Biased...
But the play with Hodgson occurs quite frequently during the course of any given game. It’s an inherent part of the cycle game, which is a significant part of what the Kings do quite well. The problem wasn’t the pick, the problem was Voynov was really, really slow to react to the play and as a result is completely out of position. Watch his reaction only during the replay. You can see him standing still, looking back over his shoulder to see if someone is cutting into the slot, then having an “Oh crap” moment when he realizes he hasn’t switched over to the puck carrier after Mitchell switched to Hodgson. If you re-watch the entire game on DVR, I’m sure you’ll see both teams do something similar several times throughout the game.
What you won’t see more than once is a full body check delivered on a player who is nowhere near the puck to open up a shooting lane and create an excellent scoring chance on the powerplay, which ends up in the net because of excellent finish on the part of the King’s shooter. The atrocious call on Richards soon after is kind of telegraphing that the refs feel they blew it.
It’s not so much potato po-tah-to as potato tomato,
Hodgson deserved being commended for that play, it was a subtle and effective check by a smart player. It’s a borderline penalty, but you rarely see something that “light” get called.
The Kings’ pick play was different, as Brown knocked Burrows to the ice with force. I didn’t complain about it though, because I felt there were some weak calls on LA in the game, and generally feel that these calls and non-calls even out over the course of a season.
by Jordan Clarke on Jan 18, 2012 9:50 AM PST up reply actions
So no other blog complains about things then?
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
by Semi_Colon on Jan 18, 2012 9:58 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I am sorry
If your reading comprehension skills are lacking then. I explained clearly how one is a pick and one is a penalty.
But honestly, I could give a fuck what you think about Canuck fans and their reputation. Read it again if you need to…slowly, and then try again.
Hint…when you knock the guy down, thats a penalty…when you just turn to the net that is not!
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Hint…when you knock the guy down, thats a penalty…when you just turn to the net that is not!
This is false (also, I don’t think a penalty should have been called on Hodgson)
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by Nut on Jan 18, 2012 6:01 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Brandon Yip is on waivers.
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ocho's going to be crushed
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
by Semi_Colon on Jan 18, 2012 9:57 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
oh god
someone shield 87’s eyes.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jan 18, 2012 9:37 PM PST up reply actions
not sure why the miller hate
i think he got it spot on there. It does come from within the room, and no single trade will change that.
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Miller should have kept his rant to 1 paragraph instead of a babbling essay
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 18, 2012 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
That’s what I mean. Maybe I just haven’t been paying attention, but Ryan Miller seemed like a pretty quiet guy before the Lucic hit. Now he’s got an opinion on everything and every interview is an “airing of grievances”.
by Jordan Clarke on Jan 18, 2012 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
Well he has been playing shitty lately. I wouldn’t be sunshine and lollipops if my game started being shitty after some jackass bodychecked me.
I’m just talking about style points in his interviews. He comes across as a babbling fool. “Trades don’t help teams” or whatever he said. It was BS. He came across as a baby. Shoulda kept it short and sweet.. Maybe take lessons from Tortorella
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 18, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
hahaha
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 18, 2012 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
god...nontroversy hits its stride
good job willes and co…good job…
Hockey Break @HockeyBreak There are whispers that tension is growing between Ryan Kesler and the Vancouver Canucks. Not sure how much truth there is to these rumors.
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stupid account is stupid
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
by Semi_Colon on Jan 18, 2012 10:16 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
'how to remove all credibility from yourself in one tweet'
"Planet Earth is blue, and there's nothing I can do."
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by Twitchy2010 on Jan 18, 2012 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
Especially
In the following tweet where he says he really hasn’t heard anything. So you’re just rumor mongering then?
by Canuckelhead on Jan 18, 2012 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
When Murphy interviewed Willes last night I am surprised he didn’t bring up what he said on Twitter: that the media left out the positive stuff AV said about Kesler and painted a BS picture. But no, Murph let that idiot Willes spout off like an arrogant prick
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 18, 2012 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
watching willes last night
made me want to punch the tv. I’ve gotten used to the other douche but willes needs to go away.
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by Twitchy2010 on Jan 18, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
Mute
every time I see that "expert "panel
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I saw someone on twitter last night
Say Willes has a face for radio and a voice for print
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
by Semi_Colon on Jan 18, 2012 10:31 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
...and an intellect for
…uh…
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by Twitchy2010 on Jan 18, 2012 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
So Alfredsson and Chara named All-Star captains
I want to see Chara pick Weber to have the scariest F’ing D pairing ever
Have you accepted Aaron Rome as your Lord and Savior?
I want to see Chara pick the Sedins
And the 3 of them have a sobbing embrace on the stage.
by Jordan Clarke on Jan 18, 2012 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
Pretty sure
We’re going to see a Sedin-Sedin-Alfie line
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
by Semi_Colon on Jan 18, 2012 10:22 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Haha
Yes! Followed by chara falling to his knees, looking them both in the eyes and just saying “I’m sorry, I’m sorry” over and over again until it becomes incoherent blubbering.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 18, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
In fact
They should just script the whole day of the All-star draft and call it “keeping up with the all-stars”. Want new viewers in the US NHL? I just gave them to you.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 18, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
The Canucks
gave away the game to the Kings in the first, then Luongo snatched it back single-handedly (which he can sometimes do). If the story ended here, we would have won the game. We may say that we didn’t deserve the win, but actually we did, because of Luongo. The goalie is part of the team, no? He alone would have deserved this win.
But then, the refs took away this game from Lu, and gave it back to the Kings, as a gift.
It’s sad when this happens, but it does. If Doughty was on the receiving end of that pick, the Kings would have had a 5:3 power play, make no mistake about it.
So, we just have to live with this, and fully expect the same kind of calls in the future, until Burrows and Kesler stop the fucking acting and yapping, and just play hockey. I don’t care if other teams do it. I love both players, but they have a reputation for a reason.
You have to be stupid not to know this: when you have a reputation, you actually need to play much cleaner than other players, if you want the reputation to go away. You have to be extra-careful, and try to stay on your feet even when you can’t help but fall. You have to go out of your way to deny the fact that you were high-sticked, tripped, or whatever.
Unil they start playing like that, I expect the refs to make these biased calls against us. We can’t have it both ways. Bad reputation comes with biased calls. Improve your reputation, and the calls get more fair, in time. Isn’t this the obvious?
Los Angeles, CA
And, by the way
when we are bitching and complaining about these bad calls, we make everybody else happy. That’s exactly what the rest of the hockey world wants to see: that we are frustrated and hurt. The more we complain the more they love it. It makes us look worse, like whiners and sore losers.
I am not saying that we should cheer for the blown calls. But just imagine what would happen if the refs took away a game from us, and instead of complaining, we just gave credit to the other team. People would be stunned and confused: what, they don’t mind being robbed?!!! This is not right. How come they are not complaining?
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dude
I gave so much credit to the Kings in the recap, I should have been writing for Jewels.
Once in a blue moon, and clearly explaining the differences ( and really, in the context I put it, I said it was more “tainted superficially”, and used words like “not the reason the team lost,”…etc etc. I was making a point about the nontroversy with Kes more than that ( about two three paragraphs on the shitty puck media, and one blurb on that play )
So, I think you are being a bit over the top, and really, have you read other SBN blogs when a controversial play happens? There is far more bitching than one blurb where the writer explains why its not the reason his team lost.
Entitled to your opinion, I guess, but thats how I feel.
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for instance Attila
I just read the Jewels game thread, and about 70% of the posts in it were ref bitching.
I don’t complain the calls usually, except to point out (“that may have been a bad call”) at all in the recaps. Today, I thought the offense was egregious enough to warrant it.
But honestly, anyone that read that and thinks I was complaining about the call too much….maybe I need to take a class on making my point clearer.
Because I was REALLY bitching about the way Kesler will get portrayed, and was portrayed in our puck media recently. That was the whole point of the song title. hell, I even use that play as only “superficially” worthy of being called tainted.
I guess I can always do better though. Thx for the insight.
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Dan
sorry for coming across as if I was criticising your recap. Not my intention AT ALL.
I was as frustrated as you were, about the calls last night, and you did what comes natural to all of us: to expose the mistakes that the refs made. Rules do not differentiate between those who “embellish” and those who don’t. And Burrows did not embellish at all, last night.
My post was a general comment about what happens when you build a bad reputation, and then point out the bad calls. Both the bad reputation, and the disagreements with the calls, work against us. A legitimate complaint causes as much schadenfreude as one that is unfounded. Your calling out the refs was a legitimate one, but the result will still be the same: they will call us whiners.
And this is frustrating. The only way out of this, is to change the way some of our players play the game. And I don’t see that happening. Hence my lashing out at AB and RK.
Los Angeles, CA
....and to make my point even clearer
you should keep doing exactly what you’ve done so far. Even as a fan of the Canucks, you are more than forthcoming to acknowledge the points of the opposing crowd. Not too many I know could do a better job.
Los Angeles, CA
thanks bud
I thought I was getting all deep and having levels to my shit on this one. I guess I should not be surprised it went over the head of some…
The TMZ generation! LOL No worries my friend
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It looks like this whole SOPA thing would really limit my morning blog posts if it goes through. I always feature videos and article excerpts which is technically copyrighted material. Go here and vote against it.
A Message About SOPA From The SBN Mothership
http://www.sbnation.com/2012/1/18/2715811/sopa-legislation-sb-nation-vox-media-statement
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don't know why a simple campaign in the US hasn't started yet
whereby people can commit to not vote for a particular politician in the next election if he/she votes yes. Given the size of the opposition, I’m sure a list showing thousands of potentially lost votes would give any politician considering voting in favour of the legislation pause.
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I'm pretty sure there is.
Saw it on Reddit awhile ago. (I’m not a USian, so my interest level was not very high.) Because of the blackout protest though, I can’t go look for it. :P
haha, and from that thread:
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 18, 2012 3:43 PM PST up reply actions 6 recs
SOPA would have direct implications with the streams that are so often posted in game threads also.
I noticed Pension Plan Puppets already has banned the posting of streams for games, presumably because of pressure from some group that owns broadcast rights. It’s my understanding that if this bill passes anyone who owns content being shared or posted illegally will be able to lodge a complaint with those SOPA peeps and have the sites DNS entry completely erased / blocked for the entire country.
The golden age of the internet is nearing it’s end it seems…
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Skynet
Its plan is coming together.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jan 18, 2012 9:38 PM PST up reply actions
IS it self-aware?
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 18, 2012 10:53 PM PST up reply actions
I think
it is.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jan 20, 2012 11:27 PM PST up reply actions
front paged. Thanks!
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