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Kings At Canucks Recap ; Tainted Love (3-2Ls/o)

Not that you expect a win every time your team comes out. But, in sports, you expect your heroes to do their best. In a game where there was every reason to come out and try to "make a statement", it was the Kings that came out strong early, got a definite break in the middle, and held on late to come away with a shootout victory.

We knew this opposing team was good, and the rancher has all them little dogies towing the company line. But it still feels like this should be desrcibed as a tainted win for the visitors. Maybe its the all consuming passion for this team to do well all the time ( a pretty illogical feeling when you think about it. ) that is tainted by the continual blah blah blah that will follow this one, as all the "experts" tell you this and that. Maybe just the breaks that occurred in this game, or just the way that this team gets presented to the customers by the puck media. ( I heard on TSN and SNET today differing BS stories about Kesler where you would not believe the assumptions! And no, I won't propagate it by repeating it. Lets just say they got a helluva lot from one sentence and an out of context question!) Maybe I am just finding a wordy way of saying "We Wuz ROBBED!

Meh, stuff happens... watch the video ( its the only Marilyn Manson I have ever really liked ) and read after the break.

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- Alright. Full stop everyone. Yes, this is another loss, albeit in the tiddlywinks, dice rolling, log rolling, coin flipping, cow tipping shootout, but one in which they are only the sixth team in seventy eight games to do so against the Kings. They are now 72-0-6 when leading after two. After a shoddy beginning, the entire team showed some battle against a team that is really playing well right now. So, some perspective.

- OK, I will get it out of the way right away. Tainted could very superficially describe how this game is tainted for the victors because they were simply given a goal on the power play. The Canucks won every face off, and cleared the puck like champs that entire penalty kill. The only reason there was the room and the puck even got to Justin Williams is because Dustin Brown threw a block on Burrows in the slot. The fact that it was a blatant pick was apparent to everyone in the rink ( including the Kings, the sheepish look on a few faces afterwards at the bench told the tale ) except the only man that can do something about that is just one of the mysteries of this sport we all love. It was a blown call, plain and simple. But thats life. It is OK to point that out. I am not saying it was the only reason the visitors won. There were far too many other plays that could have turned the tide. But it is not too much for a lifelong observer of the sport, who spends his time and treasure supporting it, to point out when the one aspect of the game that the players themselves cannot control is suspect.

- Last point on that. The same penalty that was called on Maxim Lapierre on that goal was committed by Drew Doughty on Henrik Sedin only a minute before. Just sayin'! The sad thing is, the refs will say "well, we gave you four power plays and them only two". That is true. But make up calls ( and you think they did not know they made a mistake? The make up call came on a slash from Mike Richards on Mason Raymond that was the weakest thing that that $%^#er did all game, and it came the very next shift!) are not goals, and while it is something we all have to live with, that it is a fast game and they make mistakes like any human being on this planet, it does not mean I have to like it. Nor does it mean that it is whining to acknowledge that it was a factor. It was not the only factor. Moving on.

- The first period was all Kings, and it would have been a far different result if Roberto Luongo was not in net. He ended up making at least 8-9 fantastic saves on the 15 shots that the Kings had in the first. The Canucks tallied 10, but I would bet that maybe 3-4 were serious chances. Yes, there were two that got by him in the shootout. So what? There are no shootouts in the playoffs, the only goals to beat him were a tip ( where Aaron Rome decided Dustin Penner was OK hanging out there in front, inexplicably ) and Justin Williams after Luongo had made the initial save. He almost got that one, but the shot was in just the right place. No, even though Quick made some saves in this game as well, and especially in the third, where even though the shots were 12-12, I thought the Canucks had the edge in play...even then, without Luongo doing his thing, this game would have been long out of reach.

- Keeping with the slightly edgy tone tonight, STFU about Ryan Kesler people. Yes, he finished a -1, being on for the Penner tip in, but he was solid all night. He was strong on the puck, and in his 22:31 TOI, had 3 shots ( and they were KesLord type shots, a howitzer that Quick somehow got a glove on, and another bomb that forced a huge save.) He was using his linemates, even after Raymond went into Booth's spot ( keep that AV, I like Booth on CoHo's line ), and he won 14 of 21 draws, in addition to blocking a shot. His screen was perfect on the Daniel Sedin goal, and honestly, we have better things to talk about than some imagined rift or some made up "problem" only created to sell papers. The man was fine tonight. I am sure the TEAM guys will try to milk that storyline for another day at least. But that does not make it so. Ryan Kesler did everything but score tonight. He was not the KesLORD quite yet, but lets just say that he is a lot closer to that exalted status than you were told over the past couple days.

- Keith Ballard had an interesting night. He had a fight he won, and at the end, was up with Edler on what looked like the second pairing to me. ( yet only had a little over 15 minutes while Rome had almost 20. Edler playing a team high 28:17 TOI explains a fair amount. Whomever they felt was going out with Eagle got the tap. Alberts finished up with a little over 11 minutes himself, yet had 3 hits, as well as one great pinch and drive to the net that made him look like a power forward!) But Ballard also had 4 giveaways to lead his team. He recovered pretty well on them, but it cannot be a good thing for the coaches to see on the stat sheet. Kevin Bieksa had another "interesting night". He was solid on plays in his own end, but had 3 giveaways on his own. Let us just say, once again. Get well Sami Salo. Get well soon.

- The Canucks won the face off battle 38-28, while the Kings had the edge in hits 36-28. Where this game went hinkey was in the stat that the Canucks gave the puck away 13 times to only 3 for the L.A team. Even when you control the puck often off the draws, you cannot just give it back. Not for a puck possession team like ours.

- For all that, I was happy with the response in the second and third periods after a less than dazzling opener. The Canucks got back into a game against a team that plays defense pretty damn well, and one that just plain does not give up a lot. While Justine Williams was solid, and Dustin "don't call me Pancakes" Penner was noticeable, I liked Mitchell's game. Big Stick Willie was on when Booth tied the game, but he was a force in keeping the Sedins at bay tonight.

- The high standards we place on the Twins makes us spoiled around here. They were not that great in the first, like the rest of their team early. But they were the line that forced play first, and the one the rest followed. Daniel Sedin had a goal, 7 shots ( 2 more missed, including a great set up early that would have changed the entire momentum ), and Burrows had 2 to go with Henrik's one. They were not a "problem" tonight folks. We just have high standards for the quiet superstars, and their underpaid Quebecois triplet.

- That being said, I think the most consistent line is whichever one Cody Hodgson is on. He had another assist tonight on a play that was all puck guile against bigger guys. His subtle turn to the net took two guys out of the play and gave Hansen some room for the pass ( and no, it was NOT a pick Kings fans. It was a turn to the net at the right time. You can tell because he did not knock anyone down on the way there! ;-) ...that found David Booth for the empty netter. Mr Booth also looked pretty good. I expect to see the line up changes stay, and I expect to see a lot more cohesiveness out of those lines on Sat afternoon, after they have multiple days to practice here.

- No, not a bag skate, either. The team came back against one of the hotter teams in the NHL, and gained a point when few others do against them. Did I want the win? Damn skippy. Did I see things that can be better? Of course. But, even though we have all this time until the next game, I beseech you fellow fans, keep the armchair coaching and the wild trade ideas to a dull roar, OK? I would suggest you not listen to TEAM 1040 for a little while too. I know I am going to avoid them for a bit. Maybe it is just me, but the way they not only manufactured a story one day, but then took the other side and threw Ann from News 1130 under the bus today in their coverage was just too much "talking out of both sides of your face" for me. (EDIT: maybe its just too much listening to TEAM, and my BS meter got broken. Its usually more dependable than my sarcasmometer too. Have to hit reset?)

I am sure there will be plenty of noise after this one, but really, just like a Marilyn Manson cover, it looks worse than it actually is! Your favorite hockey team did not all of the sudden lose their way. The talent they all have did not evaporate. Keep the faith, relax, and think up some fun things to pick apart in this one tomorrow. But use your own minds ( I know our SBN writers and readers are a smart bunch!), and remember that the "tainted love" the guys in the media will be feeding you is just so they can get you to come back to them time and time again. Like the whole manufactured angst with Kesler over the last forty eight hours, sometimes the whole story is not the real one. I have no doubt that Sekeres, Price, B'Mac et al will have the passive aggressive knives sharpened by tomorrow, when I am sure they will tell you that your team is in a "slump" or some similar language. They may even have a point or two. But it is not as bad as they are going to tell you it is, of that I am pretty sure. Just like it was not as good as it was when they went into Beantown and won.

(Final EDIT ; A perfect example of the above when Jeff Paterson intoned that "its a loss like this one that is going to be the difference....in them not getting the 1st or 2nd seed at the end of the season" in the post game show. I never got that stuff. Isn't a loss to the Hurricanes or the Oilers the same as a loss to the Kings? Does this one count extra now? )

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Something to think about: on the twitters it was pointed out that Hodgson ‘picked’ one of the LA D on the Booth goal. I haven’t seen the replays, but that’s what was said.

The 1st period was horrendous, but the team improved as the game went on. No more excuses for the D though. They have to play better. This likely won’t be the only time Salo misses time, so they better learn to cope. At least until Gillis pulls off some wizardry at trade deadline. The whole team has to play better. Perhaps this little break will be a good opportunity for guys to work on their fundamentals and heal up any nagging injuries.

Lu was awesome though.

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by raincity on Jan 17, 2012 11:39 PM PST reply actions  

Something to think about: on the twitters it was pointed out that Hodgson ‘picked’ one of the LA D on the Booth goal. I haven’t seen the replays, but that’s what was said.

Yes, he picked Willie Mitchell on that goal. It was just more discreet than the Burrows one

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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 17, 2012 11:44 PM PST up reply actions  

nope

that is never called, because that is not a pick.

Whomever said that on the Twitters was just being a wag. That is a play the Sedins, and everyone else that is copying them now, does at least a half dozen times a game, and is a variation on the give and go.

He, in hockey parlance “went to the net”. The effect was of course boxing out ( think of it like getting a rebound in basketball), and gave Hansen the room. But it is not a pick. A pick is when the other guy gets knocked down ( again, that is what happens in hoops too on the same play ), like what Brown did to Burrows on the PK.

It was not more discreet, because it was not really the same play. You are entitled to your space on the ice, and that is all Cody was doing there. It was a smart play, it had a similar effect. But it was not a pick.

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by vancitydan on Jan 18, 2012 12:04 AM PST up reply actions  

although

that sounds like semantics, and in hoops, you can pick without knocking someone down. Maybe blocking in football is more what happened with Brown/Burr, and a “rub” ( love that football term…sound dirty a little too!) is more what Coho did and the Sedins do.

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by vancitydan on Jan 18, 2012 12:10 AM PST up reply actions  

thanks for doing my dirty work for me, dan!

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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 18, 2012 12:33 AM PST up reply actions  

You gotta watch who you rub though. Things could get interesting if you did that against Clitsome.

by marcness52 on Jan 18, 2012 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

personally I think

the whole group outside of the net needs to be bag skated and get some intensity back. Like, 60 minutes per game worth. And extra bag skates for for the D. When Alberts is your steadiest d man, there’s a problem.

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by Twitchy2010 on Jan 17, 2012 11:44 PM PST reply actions  

I can’t believe he actually made a good pinch and then had a power move to the net. Where did that come from?

by marcness52 on Jan 18, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Nobody covered him! Loved it. It’s almost as if the Kings thought “oh it’s Alberts. He’ll just dump it into the corner”

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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 18, 2012 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

sedins

throw picks all the time.

and yep, just less discreet. their hits also tend to be less discreet which explains why they get credited for like 30 hits each a season.

now if only their hooking and tripping are less discreet.

by Lingyis on Jan 17, 2012 11:51 PM PST reply actions  

discreet

i ended up saying “less” every time i should have said “more”, probably because i had in mind it meant the opposite of what it means somehow.

by Lingyis on Jan 17, 2012 11:56 PM PST up reply actions  

sucks we lost

but at least this is a game they can build on.

I actually prefer this effort over another St. Louis game.

by Wisp on Jan 17, 2012 11:58 PM PST reply actions  

I liked the 2nd and 3rd too

actually. I liked Bally stepping up to Fraser too. That all started earlier, but good for him to settle him down. I did not notice too much after the whistle stuff after that either, whether that makes any difference.

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by vancitydan on Jan 18, 2012 12:27 AM PST up reply actions  

You know why the 2nd and 3rd looked good

because the 1st period was fucktrocious. Too many King 2 on 1’s and some terrible passing through the neutral zone. Lu stood on head in the first to keep it close. I wonder how many times a Canucks defenseman said “Oh fuck…” last night as they scrambled back.

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by westy99 on Jan 18, 2012 5:28 AM PST reply actions  

The Look Bieksa Gave Hamhuis...

…in the third was priceless after a terrible cross-ice pass in the Kings end. The Canucks played a solid third, and in the end it’s a bad bounce (call) that leads directly to overtime. I honestly think Burrows would have blocked the shot if he hadn’t been picked. If the first period didn’t exist, I’d be happy with the game.

by Alcibiades on Jan 18, 2012 7:25 AM PST up reply actions  

fucktrocious

Yeah, that sounds about right.

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by raincity on Jan 18, 2012 7:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Lu definitely gave the team a chance to win last night. It could’ve been 3 or 4-0 before the game was 5 minutes old.

by marcness52 on Jan 18, 2012 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I am not saying it was the only reason the visitors won
But it still feels like this should be desrcibed as a tainted win for the visitors

You know as well as I do that Burrows got no call because he dove. You guys like to point out Doughty’s dives (rightfully so) so what’s good for the goose…

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by Nut on Jan 18, 2012 11:38 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Give me a break Nut

are Canuck fans inundating you with smarm? No, I was just there, no one is even there. Burrows dove is hilarious though. A guy just standing his position gets bowled over and he dove. Good lord…we point out when a Burrows dive happens all the time around here…

But that was not one. Jesus. I suppopse you are going to try and tell me that its OK because Hodgson did “the same thing” later right?

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by vancitydan on Jan 18, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

BTW

thanks for entirely taking a line out of context. The paragraph after, as well as the theme video and title, give you clues. The entire piece was more a complaint about the puck media and the overwrought fans in a city that expects 82-0 seasons.

The description of the actual play is apt, and makes it clear that it is NOT the reason the team lost, but a bad break.

Thanks for going all TMZ on that though.

Believe me, if Doughy dove last night, I would have pointed it out. he just got away with the same play Lappy got penalized for to give the above PP.

If you read that whole paragraph, thats not complaining either, but rather absolving the refs in a tough job.

But hey, take whatever you want out of context there too…if it helps further whatever you are here to further!

Peace bro’

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by vancitydan on Jan 18, 2012 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

He also changed angle/direction whereas Brown never shifted from his skating lane.

As for the dive, true. FYI, LA is having the same problem with Doughty…beginning to establish a reputation.

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by USHA#17 on Jan 18, 2012 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

The Mirror has Two Sides

I am a little taken back…the video clearly shows Burrows changing angles to deliberately interfere with Brown. Brown never changed direction, stayed in his skating lane.

Granted it was a veteran move insofar as it did not (at first) appear as egregious as it clearly was upon video review. A call either way may have resulted had a ref not paid close attention.

The joke was on Kesler however, when between periods he began whining about the contact and goal. He should have consulted with Burrows first. But could Ryan have really expected a player who stoops to kidney punching a helpless player in the back to take responsibility for a fail?

By the way,I have viewed numerous blogs and it appears fans across the west are asking how the Canucks managed to get a diving platform installed at their training facility.

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by USHA#17 on Jan 18, 2012 3:03 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

thank you

trolololololololololol…kidney punching? Wowzers, thats bad huh?

News flash friend…you’re not as funny as you think you are…perhaps you were looking for Jewels or the other Cali blog?

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by vancitydan on Jan 18, 2012 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

dan...u gonna get upset

by the genius who wrote this brilliant post of awesomeness?

Ryan Kessler
Fucking whiner…go suck mouths with the twinkle brothers. Their Van Dykes are tapered to make their faces look likes assholes just for you, Ryan.

Come on…he’s obviously just a kid, and not an overly intelligent one at that…let him have his troll-y fun.

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by Twitchy2010 on Jan 18, 2012 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

not even breathing harder twitch

I just thought it was bad trolling. Needs to up his game to get to funny!

Who knows twitch, he might surprise us with the follow up!

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by vancitydan on Jan 18, 2012 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

kinda what i was hoping for

my expectations are pretty low tho

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by Twitchy2010 on Jan 18, 2012 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

is it bad that I laughed at his tweet? haha

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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 18, 2012 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

We might be underrating the poor guy though

he did get the beard name right. Most say “goatee”.

Kudos!

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by vancitydan on Jan 18, 2012 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Hardly poor, I am rich with the laughs and smiles invoked by your responses. Thanks.

The Van Dyke…certainly over the top and for that I apologize to all…Kesler’s on camera whining, or anything else for that matter, is no excuse… I stand properly chastised.

The kidney punching is neither invented nor exaggerated…review the game tapes from the prior LA game. The very behavior one would have expected from one of the Durbano Brothers.

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by USHA#17 on Jan 18, 2012 5:01 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Sigh

We gave you a chance son. The responses are mocking and laughing at you, you know that right?

No one is taking anything you say seriously, but here’s a tip young man. Here. we are quite willing to have a conversation on puck with anyone, who cheers for any team.

We don’t really get why you hate the best American player in the NHL, but hey, thats your choice.

But when you just come and be a dick, than you get the same response, followed by a ban if it continues.

I won’t reply to any of the biased trolling shit you are trying to shovel, however, because honestly, what’s the point?

You must be the most observant hockey watcher ever though. To pick up on this “kidney punching” that no one else saw in this game or the one before.

Perhaps we were blinded by our displeasure at the trying to run the best set up guy in the NHL, you know, the one that has a Hart and Ross trophy. Like, after the goal by about 7 seconds.

I would expect such an insightful and astute hockey mind would have picked up on that. Perhaps the fact that, deep down inside, you’re just trolling might account for that.

So, talk puck from another viewpoint? Fine. But if you are just going to come here and be a dick, the responses you crave wont come further than this one.

I just don’t have time to educate children these days…

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by vancitydan on Jan 18, 2012 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Again, I won’t debate the tasteless nature of my comment.

I hoped to add another view of the game. I am still laughing that you would use a cheap shot to defend a cheap shot artist. Touche.

As for the rest, I don’t care how many trophies he has, his whining was unbecoming…about a proper call no less.

I was thinking. In respect to the “only I saw” cheap shot, I imagine a hockey maven such as yourself would have a basement filled with Canucks game videos…Oh, wait, I think it was a Vancouver loss…perhaps you don’t have that one. Just kidding my friend, just kidding. ..hold on there…no need to go searching for more quotes.

Excuse me, the bell is ringing, lunch is over, have to head back to class. It’s building blocks this afternoon, won’t want to miss it!

Till the next match….Peace.

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by USHA#17 on Jan 18, 2012 9:15 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Are Teemu Selanne and Melanie Griffith Twins?

What? How? More like Teemu and Buzz Lightyear

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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 18, 2012 10:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Thank you Dan

I’ve a really old, messed-up laptop and no satellite TV so don’t get to watch many games. Tried Team 1040 but they either irritate or depress me and they’re a minute behind so I’ve been getting game info from Twitter. Better than nothing! Beginning to discern the more thoughtful twitterers. Some tweets were really bad last night. But there were a few “voices” that reassured me. Your post is reasoned and thoughtful and fits with my own general take on the team. I am a “true blue” fan though I’ve only been following since 2010 (used to be a Leafs fan – grew up in a staunch Leafs home in Nova Scotia) but fell in love with the Canucks. I look forward to your posts. Today’s was really helpful. Thanks!

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by canf on Jan 18, 2012 10:35 PM PST reply actions  

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