Morning Buzz: George Parros, Kesler vs. AV, Tanev Time, and the return of the KB?
by Jordan Clarke on Jan 17, 2012 7:35 AM PST
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The media machine surrounding the Canucks was churning out an unusual amount of nonsense for an off-day yesterday. We had some attempts to create a coach/player controversy, and Doug MacLean crying for attention by flat out inventing trade rumours.
Links for all that and more contained herewith, plus be sure to read Zandberg's Canucks vs. Kings preview to get you set for tonight!
Vancouver Canucks news & notes:
- The rumour of the day yesterday was that the Canucks were close to trading for George Parros. Here's why it would be a bad idea. [Canucks Army]
- The nontroversy of yesterday was Ryan Kesler's response to AV's post-game comment on Sunday that Kes should be using his linemates more. Clearly Coach V has lost the room! No seriously, Rogers Arena is very big and sometimes he gets turned around. [The Province]
- Is it Tanev Time? I vote yes. I'm fine with one of Rome/Alberts/Sulzer in the lineup, but not two. [Legion of Blog]
- Andrew Eide makes a similar plea. [The Hockey Writers]
- Botch indirectly announced on Twitter last night that the Kurtenbloggers (now of NBC Sports) will be returning to the TEAM 1040 airwaves for a Saturday afternoon show starting in February. Excitement! I'm bleating like a baby goat.
- Daniel Wagner takes a crack at solving the mystery of whether or not the Canucks play down to their opponents. [Pass it to Bulis]
- What do the advanced stats say about the Canucks struggles in the past week or so? Hint: it ain't pretty. [Canucks Army]
- PITB with some important Canucks stats. I learned a few things, such as Kesler's declining PK time and no other team being in the top 5 of both special teams. The team's 2nd period stats are so different than the 1st and 3rd that it has me convinced they do it on purpose. [Pass it to Bulis]
Today in Canucks history: [Jan 17, 1999] Canucks acquired Ed Jovanovski, Dave Gagner, Mike Brown, Kevin Weekes and a first round draft pick in the 1999 or 2000 NHL Entry Draft from Florida in exchange for Pavel Bure, Bret Hedican, Brad Ference and a third round pick (in the year that Florida exercises the right to convey the first round pick to Vancouver).
Also, on this day in 2008, Markus Naslund played his 1,000th NHL game. Watch the tribute video.
NHL news & notes:
- The Red Wings won a club record 15th straight home game last night, blowing out the Sabres 5-0. [CBC]
- Ryan Miller was pulled from the game, and had some stuff to say afterwards: "If you guys really think there's going to be any kind of trade made anywhere that's going to affect this team any more than we can affect it in this locker room, you guys are just ... I don't know what to think, because there's no such trade." [Puck Daddy]
- Sidney Crosby had been traveling and skating with his team, but has left to visit the chiropractic neurologist that treated him in the summer. [Penguins]
- Cam Charron's latest "Don Cherry Confused Me". [Legion of Blog]
- Nicklas Lidstrom will be the next player featured on NHL 36, a series which follows an NHL player around for 36 straight hours. I imagine a "24" style series where Lidstrom has to thwart terrorists and yell "DAMMIT!" a lot. [Kukla's Korner]
- Brian Burke gives some poignant career advice. Quote taken out of context: "Assume you will fail." Que the "that's why he's a perfect fit for the Maple Leafs!!" jokes. [MLSE]
- Timeonice.com is a tool that many of our favourite hockey bloggers use to analyze advanced stats such as Corsi and Fenwick. The site doesn't come with any clues on how to actually use it, so thankfully Red Line Station has written an instruction manual of sorts. Dive in if it interests you!
- Columbus Blue Jackets forward Dane Byers has been suspended for three games for a head hit:
Today in NHL history: [Jan 17, 1989] Al Arbour wins his 600th NHL game as a head coach.
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I wish the whole AV / Kesler thing would go away. It’s so blatantly manufactured that it’s just plain stupid.
I think Tanev (as much as I love the guy) needs to stay in the minors and log big minutes. The existing D should be good enough to make things work for the time being. Make them sort it out themselves.
The return of KB radio is awesome news and much needed on 1040. That station is like a vacuum most days.
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Tanev
I wouldn’t mind seeing him get some time in the NHL this year. See how he does, re-acclimatise him to the pace/physicality, etc. Chances are if we have any kind of deep playoff run there will be injuries, and we will probably need him at some point. Might as well get his feet wet midseason so he’s not thrown (back) into the fire in the spring.
(And yes, I realize he played in the SCF last year – just thinking he could use more than three NHL games this season before the playoffs)
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by nucksandpucks on Jan 17, 2012 8:09 AM PST up reply actions
I’d like to see him get some time in too, but I’d wait til later in the year when we inevitably have 2 of our top D out.
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Yeah fair enough
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by nucksandpucks on Jan 17, 2012 9:43 AM PST up reply actions
I don't think we need a post, a stat or a quote to tell anyone what a horrible idea Parros is
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by Yankee Canuck on Jan 17, 2012 8:26 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions
He’s not worth it if he’s not as good a player as Weise. However, if he’s a better player than Weise, and if it takes only a draft pick, and 4th round pick, or whatever, I don’t see how it hurts.
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by Vancouverguy on Jan 17, 2012 8:29 AM PST up reply actions
Problem is, he’s not as good as Weise. I have no problem upgrading on Weise, but Parros is most definitely not the solution.
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Not as good as Weise at what?
I’m not all gung ho that they should go get parros but let’s not overvalue Weise here just cause we see him everyday. He has below average hands and he’s not a great fighter. Parros would be an upgrade in that department. I think the more pressing need in any case is our d. Our third pairing is an embarrassment for a team that claims to be one of the best in the league.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 17, 2012 8:49 AM PST up reply actions
I didn’t overvalue anything. Saying Weise is a better player than Parros is not exactly a ringing endorsement. Fighter? Of course not.
I think between Duco, Bitz and Mancari, upgrading him will happen within the org.
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I hope not
Thats really the only place GMMG can improve on offense, so I hope he does. I think the booth trade handcuffs the Canucks top nine don’t you?
by Canuckelhead on Jan 17, 2012 9:11 AM PST up reply actions
If Raymond is movable it changes things. Just don’t know if there is much of a market for him right now.
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He's another guy that could use a change
As great a playeras Kesler is I don’t think his style helps Raymond.. I think Raymond might really improve if he gets a chance to be more of “the man”
by Canuckelhead on Jan 17, 2012 9:27 AM PST up reply actions
Grabnered
Packaged with Ballard I would have no issues with trading him. It’s starting to look like he really doesn’t fit anywhere here and if he can be used to get rid of Ballard’s contract I’m all for it. Higgins deserves 2nd line time, Booth will hopefully earn the same and Raymond is not a third liner.
by Diehardnuck on Jan 17, 2012 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
grrrrrrr
fuckin mark lee…
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by Twitchy2010 on Jan 17, 2012 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
I was referencing
Brian Burke calling Kevin Weekes the “goalie of the future” when they made that trade referenced above.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 17, 2012 10:09 AM PST up reply actions
…and we all know how that turned out – how bad do you have to be to lose your job to Dan Cloutier?
by Diehardnuck on Jan 17, 2012 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
hindsight is 20/20
I remember Weekes looking pretty damned good at times and thought his future was very bright
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 17, 2012 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
Didn't he like
miss practice or something and come up with some bullshit story about being mugged or carjacked or something like that? Can anybody help me with this?
Yes!
I remember something like that too. Just not the specifics. My favorite thing about Kevin Weekes used to be the vaguely racist comparisons to grant fuhr and pokey reddick
by Canuckelhead on Jan 17, 2012 1:33 PM PST up reply actions
I believe
it was carjacking. Imagine if twitter was around back then. #KevinWeekesExcuses
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by Canuckelhead on Jan 17, 2012 2:41 PM PST up reply actions
zomg
someone on NM listens to Belle and Sebastian.
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by mechanixfetch on Jan 17, 2012 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
oh cmon
there were worse.
500 Days of Summer is good if you’ve ever been burned very badly by a girl.
Young Adult is pretty much useless but passes the time.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jan 17, 2012 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
I liked
500 days of summer damnit. I liked it a lot and if that makes me pussy or whatever so be it ;)
by Canuckelhead on Jan 17, 2012 4:54 PM PST up reply actions
I loved that movie
Watched that shit like 10 times.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jan 17, 2012 5:23 PM PST up reply actions
ha
I don’t even remember them being in that movie. Been listening to them for years!
by Jordan Clarke on Jan 17, 2012 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
Not really too worried about the recent struggles. I see it as what Detroit seemingly does every year, and while I definitely expect a higher level of play than what we’ve been getting recently, if it means the team is any fresher in May and June, I’m all for it. Something to be said for turning that switch on sooner rather than later though.
My apologies if this has been posted, but I feel it needs to be;
And hey, apparently it snows in Victoria! Who knew!?
by RogerFenway on Jan 17, 2012 11:45 AM PST reply actions 5 recs
my only problem with this
you forgot a title.
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 17, 2012 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
You shall pass!
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 17, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
How the hell is this not greened?
So awesome!
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 17, 2012 1:09 PM PST up reply actions
well well...
lookit the new kid all getting quoted on Puck Daddy
Good stuff, Jordan
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