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Canucks and Sharks Recap ( 3-4 ) - Bloom Off the Rose

The first games, even in preseason, are always fun. You wanted it back so much, you tend to view it all through a rosey pair of glasses.  The players seem to be faster, the goalies stop everything, and every hit sounds much louder.  But we do have to remember, this is the preseason, there is a reason some of these guys were not in the NHL last season, and even the sweetest smelling rose has some thorns.

Now, I am not saying that our heroes had one of those kind of games.  They did not. Hard work and the "Canuck Hockey" prerequisites of speed and pressure were well on display tonight.  But this is the mighty San Jose Sharks! Pierre Lebrun's pick to win it all.

Whatever.  Bottom line is the Canuck prospects and guys trying so hard to make the team were up against a team that looked very much like the same bunch we beat in the Western Conference Finals.

Let us see how they fared after the break.  

Star-divide

 

You knew this would be a tough game for the home team tonight.  I mean, the opening faceoff was Joe Thornton's line against Lapierre and two guys he played very little with before.   They were under pressure right away, but Lack made a save on Boyle, and the game settled in a bit.  Cody Hodgson's line had a strong first shift, and the same with Schroeder's, as the two 1st rounders battle for spots.  They have both been standouts in the preseason, and that continued tonight as well.

The Sharks will be scary offensively with Brett Burns and Dan Boyle, but one of the one time Wild player has never been the fastest at skating backwards, and he took a the first of what would be many penalties on the night, when he was beaten wide by Pinizzotto.  Unfortunately, this is no where near the #1 power play of the past season. ( If it was even close, the Canucks would have won going away!)

The only highlights of this one were a rush by Cody Hodgson, and a nice recovery play on Murray by Ballard to prevent a short handed chance.  The news did not get much better when Steve Pinizzotto went to hit Douglas Murray, and hurt his shoulder, not to return. (AV said later that he has a dislocated shoulder)  Shortly afterwards, the scoring sheet was to get its first entry when Sulzer took a nice wrister and beat Greiss through a screen to make it 1-0 for the home team.  

That was not to last long, on a bit of a controversial goal. Not to be pissy, because its preseason and who cares, but it looked like Lack had the puck under his pads long enough to get the whistle.  But the whistle did not come, and the defenders could not handle Brad Winchester, who forced it, ( and the goalie too!) into the net to tie the game at 1-1.  Lack recovered a bit and made a nice save on the next chance for Pavelski, but even there, he fought the puck and almost gave another one up on what should have been an easy freeze of the puck.

One of the best lines of the opening frame was the Lapierre and Volpatti combo, with mainly Duco on the other wing ( the lines were disjointed by injuries tonight. More on that to come ), and they forced the play a bit on a solid shift where Lappy got a solid chance. Winchester then thought it best that he try to impress the coach with an outright dumb penalty, going into a hit with Baumgartner with his elbow way too high, giving the kids another chance to practice the power play.  This one was pretty inept once again, not coming close to scoring.

Lapierre, Volpatti and Duco had another strong shift, but then the Shark vets once again showed their quality, and our favorite Swedish rookie goaltender another wart. This time, on a simple shot from Pavelski, he blockered the puck to no one in particular. Little Joe took the gift and made a nice pass to Tommy Wingels, who beat Lack trying to get back into position for a 2-1 score.

The line of Roussel, Ebbett and Nolan then had a solid shift for a change, almost scoring by just plain battling the puck to the net.  Owen Nolan then followed that up with a penalty at the line that showed his age a bit, as the defender breaking out went by him standing still, His elbow went up, and the ref's arm went up too.

Happy Eddy Lack did better on this one, settling down and making a couple nice saves on Burns. Then Lapierre showed another facet of his game, reading a Joe Thornton pass, breaking out shorthanded, and forcing Patrick Marleau to take a holding call that was a bit lazy.  While 4 on 4, the teams battled to a sawoff ( though CoHo made a nice checking play on Vlasic that showed his strength this year )  The other 1st round prospect on his next shift, Jordan Schroeder, went right to the net and almost tipped home a Baumgartner pass.

The short power play was as effective as the first two, and did not create much of anything.  The Canucks had a couple solid shifts late in the period, with Lapierre and his line banging and crashing, and then Hodgson and his line using their skills ( Niklas Jensen made a nice steal and a strong shot, and Hodgson was a bit unlucky alone in the slot when the rebound bounced over his stick.  Schredder then showed another aspect of his game, the speed, when he took a steal, broke away and forced a huge save from Greiss, getting just a piece of a shot that looked labelled.  

Owen Nolan's best period was the second tonight, starting out on Lapierre's line and getting a chance that he just sent wide.  Sturm followed it up with a nice pass to set up Alexander Sulzer ( the German can shoot it! ), which forced a huge glove save.  The refs then made a logistical mistake when Winchester took another dummy elbowing call, and the officials blew it down when the Canucks were on the rush.  

This PP was at least able to generate an actual shot, a good one from Schroeder off of a nice pass by Anders Ericcson. Another point shot forced a save, and Miko Dmitrakos almost buried it. he next unit continued the good feelings, with Nolan doing some nice work along the boards to get a good chance for Aaron Rome from the point.  Marco Sturm and Nolan made some good plays to finish off the power play, but the Sharks killed the rest off.  More pressure from the home team continued, with Jensen came out after the power play on Lapierre's wing, and set up Sulzer for another German Bomb, this one just wide.  Schroeder set up Mike Duco, but he was saved, with the puck also getting the post to boot.  After 5 minutes, it was 5-1 for the home team in shots, and they were carrying the play.  

It continued as Roussel set up Duco to force another save.  All of Revelstoke held their breath as Aaron Volpatti went for the big hit on Murray, missed, and crashed hard into the boards.  He would miss a few shifts, but did not leave the game.  The Sharks then decided to play a little Slapshot, as Murray was way late on an attempted hit on Lapierre.  Lappy only avoided injury because, unlike Horton when Rome did the same thing, he had his head up and was able to brace himself.  The ensuing kerfuffle, when Dan Boyle ( noted pugilist ...sticking his nose in ) and Murray both jumped Lapierre.  Antoine Roussel came to his teammate's defense, going at it with the much bigger Murray and standing in  for himself very well.  You could see that AV was aghast at how that was called, as his team somehow came out a man down ( lipreaders know he shook his head, and said "you fucking guys"...probably not loud enough for the bench minor!)  The PK picked up their guys though, with Sturm, Duco and Ericcson all making solid plays.

The momentum continued when Hodgson controlled the play, made a nice pass to Aaron Rome, who was saved. Cody paid the price ( he did touch it, he said in the post game ), diving to the net and getting crunched to tip it home and make it 2-2.  Winchester almost got it back right away, but this time Lack got the puck frozen, and Baumgartner stood up well to the physical to keep Winchester off a bit better than the first goal.  

The game was going back and forth, with Ebbett getting a chance, and then a Ballard turnover ( he did not have many, and did have a good game )giving Ferrioro ( I spell our guys correctly, mostly,  but excuse me for not looking this one up) a huge chance that forced one of Lack's best saves of the night.  

He had zero chance on the next goal though, as Hodgson and MacIntyre battled behind the net, and the puck somehow bounced up in the air, over everyone, and right on the stick of Lucky Tommy Wingels for an easy goal that was not the goalie's fault.

The Lapierre line drew another penalty, though two thirds of the line was off as well.  I guess they were just too much for the Sharks, and the refs saw it the same way, or something.  But Lapierre went off, Murray and Thornton went off ( all with minors ) while Duco got a reputation call ( pretty interesting, getting a rep call after only 4 preseason games) a misconduct.

The powerless play was a little better, with Nolan getting a shot on a rebound off of a Ballard chance, and Sturm almost tipping one home too, but that was about it.

Jordan Schroeder though, is definitely stronger on his skates this year.  He was hard to move on the power play, and then showed even more to his coach by physically muscling Joe Thornton ( just imagine that visual for a sec!) behind his own net very effectively.  The Sharks tried to push hard towards the end of the period, but Lack made a couple saves, and the Canucks could take solace that, even though they were down, they were the better team in the second.

The injury bug started biting early in this game, unfortunately. In addition to Pinizzotto, the news was not good for Aaron Rome, who was hit in the hand at some point in the second and broke a finger at the least.  So, we have more LTIR to deal with, and money and spots to spend too, at least at the start of the season!

Back to the start of the third, the Sharks seemed to be be sitting back a bit, and while the Canucks could not really break through, and the better talent of the Sharks on the ice started to show a bit, it was a pretty back and forth period.  Ebbett and Schroeder almost cashed on a nice chance, CoHo made a slick pass to Roussel ( after a great Baumgartner breakout pass )  Andrew Ebbett had  another chance, and a bad Parent pinch made led to another chance for Wingels.

Sturm and CoHo had another nice rush, but Greiss made another couple saves to keep the score where it was.  The youth of our team showed a bit too, with a poor Roussel turnover leading to a solid Ferrerio chance that Lack turned aside.  It continued with the oldest guy in camp being far too casual in his own end, leading to even more pressure by the Sharks.  Volpatti made up for his miss on Murray with a large hit at one end, before Marleau had a solid chance that Lack turned aside. 

Through it all, Hodgson was having one great shift after another.  He looks so much stronger on his skates this year.  But , even with that, the Sharks were the ones that got on the scoresheet with something other than a penalty.  This time, McCarthy beat a Ballard check in the corner, fed Desjardins. His shot was just directed at net, but it went off Baumgartner's hand/arm and past Lack for another lucky one.

Maxim Lapierre got back to work, and maybe was a victim of an iffy call, hitting Wingels as the puck went past them along the boards.  The Canucks refused to let the Sharks cash it in, and had maybe their best PK of the night.  

Lucky for us, the Sharks have Brad Winchester on a PTO. He went for another stupid penalty, this one hitting Dmitrakos after the latter was just cutting to the net, with the puck frozen anyhow.  It gave the home team their 7th PP of the night. Burns then made a bad hit on Ebbett to put his team two men down, and suddenly, it looked like the kids might have a chance against the mainly NHL ready Sharks.  Hodgson almost got to a rebound off of a Ballard shot, before Ballard and Baumgartner passed it around sharply. Baumer found a lane, made an accurate shot, and suddenly it was 4-3.

The Sharks killed most of the rest off, before Wingels highsticked ( lazily, dude, one hand on your stick like that?) CoHo to give the Canucks more power play time to end the game.  They had some great chances,( the best an Ebbett tip of a Baumgartner shot ) pulled the goalie to make it a  6 on 4 to end the game, but just could not cash in. You know the Sedins would have been all up in that for sure though!

Still, all in all, I was happy with the Canucks and their effort tonight. For instance ;

Cody Hodgson - a goal ( though he was a -1 ) a couple shots ( 2 more missed) and 7 of 16 against solid NHLer faceoff men ( Thornton is one of the best ). He has probably made the team.

Maxim Lapierre - auditioning fourth liners this preseason, he has shown that ability to get under people's skins, yet was strong on the puck all night. Only 3 of 9 on draws, and had 2 shots on and 1 off net, in addition to being credited with a hit ( thought he had more than that )

His linemates, Niko Dmitrakos and Mike Duco, both had solid games too.  Niko had an assist, but finished a -1, and was told by the team he was cut soon afterwards. Mike finished even, had a shot ( missed another ) and was credited with 2 hits. He is still here, I like that he is, but I also liked Zorba in the preseason. Maybe he will catch on with someone else.

Niklas Jensen - AV's favorite toy this camp was lauded by his coach once again after this one. With good reason. The 18 year old looked not out of place at all. he did finish a -1, but led his team with 4 shots. I can see why AV likes him. He seems to go to the right spots naturally.  He can't make this team as an 18 year old though, can he?

Jordan Schroeder - Schredder was only 1 of 5 at the dot, and only had 2 shots credited while finishing a -1.  But he was all over the ice all night. Strong in his own end. Made the power play go ( well, relatively, it did suck tonight ) when he was out there. Definitely a hell of a lot closer to making this team this year than he was last year!

Marco Sturm had a similar game.Same stats as Schredder, with a hit thrown in, but he seems to have a knack for making the smart play more often than not.

Aaron Volpatti - I have a soft spot for him, being as he is from an old hometown. He was fast and hard all night, leading the forwards with 3 hits, had a shot, and generally made the most of his 13 minutes of ice time.

Andrew Ebbett - I liked his game tonight. He might be in tough, but you never know, He does have some magic mittens, is strong on his skates, and has some speed. Killed penalties well tonight, had 2 shots, 2 blocks, a hit, a takeway, and was 7 of 16 in the circle. I know I sure mentioned his h=name several times in te recap, so he must have done something right!

I do feel for Owen Nolan though. You can see him thinking the game out there, and he can still do that.  But he was  a step slow most of the night, had only 1 shot, and, most tellingly, was not out at the end on the power play ( though they gave him plenty of chances there. He had 8:11 of PP time tonight ), when you would think that would be a strength of his game. He was released after the game. Good luck, noble warrior...

Antoine Roussel and the back up goalie Matt Climie were both sent to the Wolves after the game as well. Of the two, that represents something of a victory for Roussel, who was here on a tryout. Not sure if he has a contract down there or anything, but he definitely showed enough over his chance to get a longer look down there.

On the blueline ;

Keith Ballard  - finished a -1 tonight, but he looks very good this preseason. He led the blue line with 3 hits, had a shot, a block, and an assist, while being mainly on the right side of the puck all night.  His breakout passes were pretty good too.

Anders Ericcson - ended up with only 1 shot, and 1 hit.  But he made solid veteran plays most of the night, and ended the night an even.  Rome's injury keeps him in camp a while longer.

Aaron Rome - had an assist, 2 shots on net ( missed another) and had a hit credited before not returning for the 3rd.  An injury puts him on the shelf, but no doubt for the Canucks, that might be a blessing, kind of like Salo starting on the shelf. We have plenty of options on the blue line still.

Alexander Sulzer - had maybe his best game of the extended chance he has had to impress. A goal, and 2 of 3 shots on net ( all of them bombs. He can bring it!), and an even. Still needs to work on his play in his own end, but looked better tonight.

Ryan Parent is going to end up in Chicago, right? I thought he would be sent there right after this game. Credited with 1 shot and a -1. He shows flashes, but I counted another two ill advised pinches that put his team in jeopardy the other way tonight.

 

Happy Eddy Lack did not have a superstar evening. You get the feeling that it did not dim his smile at all.  He actually had a good game overall.  I mean, two of the goals tonight were on pretty solid luck for the other guys, pucks went off others on the other two.Finished with 30 saves on 34 shots.

 

I imagine we might see some more cuts and reassignments tomorrow. It is an off day, after 5 games in 6 nights.  A grueling grind, and understandable that the kids came up a bit short tonight. I thought they handled it like the well conditioned athletes they are.  For tonight though, when you ignore the score, and just watch how some of these guys can play...well...wow.  

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Nice summary.

I want to reiterate that Lapierre is a fantastic fourth line pivot. Heck, he’s a great third line center, too.

I’m glad he couldn’t get his shit together in Anaheim, because that team would be scary with him an actual third line pivot.

by Wisp on Sep 25, 2011 11:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Nolan

Was just released. On well, another one of Sean’s guarantees falls a bit short.

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by Canuckles on Sep 25, 2011 11:28 PM PDT via iPhone app reply actions  

what

are those guarantees?

by Wisp on Sep 25, 2011 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

that Nolan

Would play on the first line, that Manny wasn’t coming back in the playoffs… Those are two

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by Canuckles on Sep 26, 2011 12:13 AM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

oh! Right! Is he taking monastic vows yet?

by Wisp on Sep 26, 2011 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not surprised that Nolan was released. He had NHL puck handling, but didn’t have the speed for pressure or the tenacity in the corners. He’d likely be able to float in from the blueline and snipe the corners a la Mark Messier, but not much else.

I was impressed with Count Duco’s night amongst others. Roussel and Dimitrakos both had decent nights as well… but were cut anyway as they were long shots for making the big club. Volpatti looked okay too.

Based on performance thus far, I think Hodgeson and Shredder could both be in a Canucks jersey to start the season. They’ve both impressed every game and playing the wing as a centre is a lot easier than a wing playing centre (ask Raymond).

I think Sturm and Duco are also favoured to make the team. Sulzer has a bomb and looked decent at times, but didn’t look as solid with the puck in his own zone as Rome or Bomber. Ballard was the best defenseman for the Canucks all around.

 Lapierre was probably the best Canuck on the ice overall as he was showing what he could do in his own zone, offensively, in the corners, and under the skin.

Jensen played great for his age, but at 18, I don’t see him making the big club.

Lack had a solid night as a couple of the goals we nothing he could have done… also the difference in firepower and payroll in the lineups were… substantial.

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by SteveNux on Sep 26, 2011 1:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t forget… the Leafs and Flames will make the playoffs this year.

by splnwezel on Sep 26, 2011 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Boy some Sharks fans sure are bitter, lol. It’s as though they won a playoff series over there. Some people are still having trouble understanding the nature of tryouts, our 4th line and roster injuries.

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by ShiftySC on Sep 26, 2011 12:01 AM PDT reply actions  

Fear the Fin is not a friendly place anymore. I’m kind of sad, last year when we played, I liked to lurk there, then the playoffs happened. now it’s all vitrol. :(

if they want to see it as a measuring stick game then they should actually be concerned that they only narrowly beat a team that only iced one actual NHL defense men.

 

by Wisp on Sep 26, 2011 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

two

If you count Aaron Rome

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by Canuckles on Sep 26, 2011 12:14 AM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

lol.

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by ShiftySC on Sep 26, 2011 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I contemplated saying "Two if you count Keith Ballard"

but then I realized I’m not AV and thus see his value as a top 4 guy.

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by Canuckles on Sep 26, 2011 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol well technically I think Rome was higher than Ballard last year (at least for the playoffs) but on the plus side I thought that the boys put up a pretty good showing considering we dressed mostly tryouts and prospects :)

by BW79 on Sep 26, 2011 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

and actually even during the playoffs I didn’t have a problem going there but now the vibe is a bit too hateful for me. Angy and some of the others that visit here are great but I think I won’t be visiting there again – just don’t like the vibe, it’s similar to the vibe when visiting SCH lol.

lol a good natured rivalry is fun :) Bitter hate is just kinda sad

by BW79 on Sep 26, 2011 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was quite a den of repressed anger from what I could see. I was going to post the Sharks as babies photoshop but then I didn’t. :)

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by ShiftySC on Sep 26, 2011 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

i'm not here to start any kind of fight

(or serious debate as i’m heading to bed…) but I have to say that I find all this very hypocritical. I love coming over to the opposition’s site to check out what’s going on when we play and normally it’s filled with heated discussions or friendly trash-talking or somewhere in between.

When I came over here before this game and read the pregame material posted I admit I was taken aback at how hostile everything was. Filled with low-blow insults and unfounded insinuations. Maybe I’m being to sensitive to it, but the taunting nature of both main articles posted were obviously directed towards any sharks fans that happened to wander over here and were far from inviting towards any kind of interaction. Maybe that’s what’s humorous to you guys, and you would just rather not have us around… that’s fine. I don’t think i’ll be coming back so no need to worry. I just find it odd. i didn’t think there were such a thing a sore winners… clearly you have chosen not to take the high road and be gracious about winning. I guess I expect too much of anonymous people on the internet…

by you'vejustbeenCAINED on Sep 26, 2011 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

OMG

really? Wow. The pregame stuff was mean? ummm…OK, I don’t see it, but if you took it that way, sorry.

But I think you are reaching. Reaching a lot. I can only say you are wrong, both in the intent and the insinuation. No one has ever said you are not welcome…none of the articles were written that way either.

Yet you feel the need to call us sore winners, which is really rich. I find it odd you would drop such a steaming pile of doo doo here and say…“I won’t be back.”

You are welcome. But come here with an open mind, and perhaps a little less attitude.

Did you comment in any article and have some one call you names? No. Hate filled diatribes about your team? No.

In fact, there is plenty of respect for a good team. Not like other sites where all you guys do is engage in closeminded bashing of the Canucks, the players, and any fan that says anything.

So, good luck to the team you cheer for, and feel free to come back if you want to talk puck. But if its just going to be more closeminded whining and negative shots that have no basis in reality, then maybe you might be more comfortable elsewhere.

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by vancitydan on Sep 26, 2011 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I got the message

And its telling you find my response rude. I am basically saying, if you come over with a preconceived notion of things, you might find it negative. I go to other sites and expect some form of “Canuck hate” on the front page. Its written for a Canuck audience here, so maybe the pendulum swings too far the other way for you.

But yeah, if inviting you to talk puck without the attitude is “rude”, then guilty.

For what it is worth, that was not the intent, and if I offended you, well, then sorry. Enjoy what you can …whereever you are…

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by vancitydan on Sep 26, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno...

I had a look at fear the fin and it’s pretty crapnasty — “I fucking hate Vancouver”. Now THAT has a lot of intelligence and kindness attached to it, no? And seriously, what leg would any self-respecting Sharks fan be standing on anywhere if a team of Sharks first liners can’t beat the piss out of a line up of no-names, old guys, hopefuls and rookies? I’d be embarrassed instead of crowing about the win. It wasn’t much of a win at all. There was no “schooling” taking place by Sharks veteran star players. Thornton even got pasted and held behind the net a couple of times by a ROOKIE. So honestly, I’m puzzled by what you are holding up to be mean stuff on this page. Seriously. Take a chill pill.

by peanutflower on Sep 26, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

There was no "schooling" taking place by Sharks veteran star players.

Douglas Murray.

by meetyourmako on Sep 27, 2011 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

The writers at FTF are all class. Let’s get that straight.

There’s an intense dislike of the Canucks over there. It’s not all out hate. But at the same time, you can’t come over there and expect to be shocked to realize that fact every single time.

Personally, I dislike the Canucks. And if you guys don’t feel like coming over there, that’s fine. But by no means do you have to stay away because you think we’re going to get angry at you immediately. As you said, come over to “talk puck” (though I do find it ironic that you</em said that).

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by Bockerz on Sep 27, 2011 5:25 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

An article is the opinion of an individual and we were discussing the tendencies of a community. That’s the difference. As Wisp said, the place itself isn’t friendly, and articles are just articles. Generally, yes, game thread descriptions are combative because the teams are going to compete, but I just don’t see the hatred in the game thread here that I do at FTF. I invite you to scroll through the one tonight.

Of course, the post above mine doesn’t help my argument…

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by ShiftySC on Sep 26, 2011 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

And to be fair there was a lot of frankly incorrect trash talk coming out of your locker room in the playoffs. I think it would be fair if both communities hated the other equally, but it’s really, really lopsided. Embarrassingly so. That’s all.

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by ShiftySC on Sep 26, 2011 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Eh, trash talk and playoffs kind of go hand in hand, it rallies up even more irrational hatred and competitive fire for the players towards the opponent in the heat of battle. But I’m sure once the postseason is over most of the players could care less what may or may not have been said and would rather the rest of us just forgot it all as well. I’m sure Luongo would agree with me there lol…

by you'vejustbeenCAINED on Sep 26, 2011 1:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

That was my point. Why is it that you scroll through our game thread, an example of the community, and it isn’t hostile, and you do the same at FTF and it’s pretty angry? I don’t get it.

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by ShiftySC on Sep 26, 2011 1:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hows that?

Was I too mean? I thought he wanted some plain talk, and to tell the truth, I don’t have much patience for this kind of thing.

To each his own…if its just like I said, he might be more comfy at FTF or something. It is “my opinion” that it was negative whining out of proportion to anything said, but maybe I should not take offense to it…whatever…

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by vancitydan on Sep 26, 2011 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, yeah. I don’t think she really understood the point we were making and clearing that up is better than doing exactly what we hate seeing at FTF.

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by ShiftySC on Sep 26, 2011 12:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

as with any collection of people passionate about something there’s going to be some who are less courteous than others. I understand that when visiting other sites as well as when i’m on FTF. Obviously, no site can block out the blindly-biased who will argue about everything and anything. I guess I was just surprised when I came here to see it coming from the wriers of the main articles on the site, since I would think those people would try to discourage that kind of thing in favor of intelligent discussion. I didn’t come to post just to put people in a bad mood over here… I came to read other people’s opinion and then couldn’t help but express my own. I apologize for creating any kind of stir.

by you'vejustbeenCAINED on Sep 26, 2011 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mr. Planks game day threads are much more content heavy then most. Nucks Misconducts are more combative and photoshopy.

We’re talking about community nuances right now, and I think it’s clear that FTF is getting their hate on, and we’re not re-acting well to it.

Personally, I can’t stand the He-said-she-said that is going on, especially when I think of how similar the Sharks and Canucks actually are as teams.

by Wisp on Sep 26, 2011 1:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

no worries

I don’t think you’ve created a stir :)

Though I will address the comment that I made about the vibe I felt from FTF :). I don’t hate your site or your team :). I visited quite a bit during the playoffs and was treated well (as are visitors here for the most part – except severe trolls). I went to visit during the young stars and opted not to post because the vibe in the game thread madee me think I wouldn’t be welcome or well received and I went tonight and felt the same thing.

I can get what you are saying about some articles though I think that they are more intended as fun rivalry rather than hate but I didn’t write them so I don’t know lol. But as shifty said the articles don’t reflect the community and I think if you read some past game threads you’ll find we welcome visitors, the threads are not full of hate for the other team/players. (Even the scf game 7 thread where we lost the cup wasn’t) we generally like a good natured rivalry though ;). And teasing or sarcasm back and forth are pretty much always welcome :).

You’re welcome to visit any time :)

by BW79 on Sep 26, 2011 1:28 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I actually have read the game comments

and found most of what you said to be true. There seem to be some chill people here who would be very welcoming. Obviously, I would say the same thing about FTF. I always like talking to visitors who say hello over there. Everyone, is not going to be like that, but I’m sure every site has their bad apples. To briefly address tonight’s thread specifically, while I can’t speak for everyone else, I would say that as a fanbase we’re probably still bitter inside. Soul-sucking losses 6+ years in a row will do that. Something you guys probably understand as well as a fanbase. It’s probably a general feeling that instead of berating us, you should take your grief out on Boston, just as we’ll take ours out on you guys for the time being until the season gets going and the hope of a different outcome this year creeps in to overcome the bitterness.

Anyways, the only thing I was saying is that I found it strange and more harsh since the blatant abrasiveness was so prominent and came from the positions of power, so to speak, as opposed to random troll outburst in the comments. Just took me aback and gave me a bad taste in my mouth is all.

Anyways, I would love to come back and chat about actual hockey with you guys when our teams play again on thursday :]

by you'vejustbeenCAINED on Sep 26, 2011 1:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

let me guess: you didn’t like my gamethread, didn’t you?
just fyi, i just started doing the gamethreads this last week for the new season, taking over Yankee’s job. i still have yet to find a flow that works for me. (also doesn’t help with me juggling 30-hour work weeks with 3 university courses right now…..)
odds are that they won’t remain so vicious.

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by missy on Sep 27, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

high road

you’re doing a rather poor job of taking the high road yourself. My advice: pursue introspection with yourself and your community.

Fear the Fin is full on vitrol where the Canucks are concerned. I don’t think it’s lying or insult to point this out. You don’t have to look hard.

Also, how can we be sore winners when we didn’t win anything?

by Wisp on Sep 26, 2011 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

Because I’m sure when you guys play the Hawks it’s nothing but poop rainbows over here?

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by Evilducks on Sep 26, 2011 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

We may hate the Hawks (a lot less now) but the relationship with visiting posters from SCH, even in the most strained state of game 7 this past year, was mostly respectful. A lot more respectful than hilariously angry posts and misunderstandings of what the Canucks were trying to do with their tryouts.

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by ShiftySC on Sep 26, 2011 1:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh jesus I just read your Twitter feed. Nevermind.

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by ShiftySC on Sep 26, 2011 1:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh twitter, how I enjoy the lasting trouble you get me in.

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by Evilducks on Sep 26, 2011 7:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

actually

I wished we’d have more flame wars with second city. When we lose, we bicker with each other…

by Wisp on Sep 26, 2011 1:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's what you're gonna go with?

“Well, you do it TOOOOOO!”

What I read on Fear the Fin last night. . .wow. Just . . .wow.

That weird level of hysterical raging doesn’t make you sound confident in your team, it makes you sound threatened and insecure. The way some of you have overreacted, well, it honestly makes me feel kind of embarrassed for you.

It’s sad. I actually like the Sharks. I think they work hard, and deserve fans who believe in them. I hope none of them read Fear the Fin; it can’t be nice to find out your fans are more focused on your opponent than they are on you.

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by Pseuccubus on Sep 26, 2011 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol the uproar and crying about who we dress baffles me. Must be a slow news week in the nhl? Seriously I don’t get why they care who we dress. I know Edmonton was saying something about wanting to test their guys against nhl caliber players (well I don’t know that it would have made a difference which guys were on the ice). But really I think one of the reasons for the lineup is that AV wants to fill holes on the 4th line and dressing all of those tryouts and prospects and making them play a lot of minutes in each game gives him the best idea of who to keep. Seems like a smart move to me. And of course another reason is probably the short summer for our top players, giving them another week of rest and recuperation from the short summer and/or injuries from the playoffs. Again seems smart to me :)

But I still don’t get why it is such a big story and why people are complaining about it so much.

by BW79 on Sep 26, 2011 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s all common sense and you’ve got it exactly right. I just don’t know.

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by ShiftySC on Sep 26, 2011 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

What are you referring to when you say some Sharks fans are bitter?

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by Angy on Sep 26, 2011 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Like, they taste bitter. Need to put some sugar on them

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Sep 26, 2011 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

lol nice :) made me think about the time when I was little and my mom made a chocolate cake and forgot to put the sugar in lol. She tried to add lots of really sweet icing on top – didn’t help lol

by BW79 on Sep 26, 2011 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m going to have to read the thread from last night’s FTF now it seems.

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by Angy on Sep 26, 2011 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is what I’m referring to.

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by ShiftySC on Sep 26, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think I’ll keep my opinion to myself on this. I’m already not a favorite over there at times for my defending those from other sites. They would strip me of my Sharks fandom if they could.

I have to add – this is why I like the BoC format so much. Three fanbases that don’t like each other and we say so openly. And invite others to do the same. :)

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by Angy on Sep 26, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I enjoy BoC because no one takes things seriously, which is nice

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Sep 26, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

We do take our burritos seriously.

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by Angy on Sep 26, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

That might be the only thing. That and punctuation/grammar

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Sep 26, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s because we have Meg – an english major on one end, and then Spade. Just a recipe for disaster.

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by Angy on Sep 26, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

and so you should

good Burritos are serious business.

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by Canuckles on Sep 26, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Everyone we beat

is bitter.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 26, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess that means

our members are all extremely bitter

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by Canuckles on Sep 26, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

NM members?

I disagree.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 26, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

unless by members

I mean our Pensies

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by Canuckles on Sep 26, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

or even our Penises

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by Canuckles on Sep 26, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

wow

that was one whole thread of fail

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by Canuckles on Sep 26, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will

if you promise to stop beating it

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by Canuckles on Sep 26, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

i swear it was a 1 time thing

he pissed all over the floor the other day in the kitchen, so i had to put a good beating on him so he would learn

by free_raffi on Sep 26, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

...

Oh… well… that’s… nice…

crickets chirping

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by Canuckles on Sep 26, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

tsk you two!

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by Angy on Sep 26, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

mehhhh

This is why I don’t read certain blogs anymore. We’re not all that much better sometimes either though. No one should be claiming moral high ground over anyone

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Sep 26, 2011 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Community-wise it’s pretty clearly better. Kent has a hate boner though.

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by ShiftySC on Sep 26, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

STOP WHINING ABOUT US WHINING ABOUT YOU !!!!!

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by idunno723 on Sep 26, 2011 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

whine feedback loop…

by meetyourmako on Sep 27, 2011 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Laughing =/= whining.

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by ShiftySC on Sep 27, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes...

Let the hate flow within you!

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by PNK on Sep 26, 2011 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still don’t hate you. But that’s how I look this morning.

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by ShiftySC on Sep 27, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

ctrl-f: brett burns
replace with brent burns

:)

by yellowjack on Sep 26, 2011 1:47 AM PDT reply actions  

Given the injury situations for Vancouver, why not give Jensen the 9 games in the bigs before sending him back to Oshawa?

It won’t burn a year of his contract.

Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Sturm-Hodgeson-Jensen
Hansen-Malhotra-Samuelsson
Higgins-Lapierre-?
?

Bieksa-Hamhuis
Edler-Salo
Ballard-Tavev
Alberts, ?

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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Sep 26, 2011 5:43 AM PDT reply actions  

Proposal : Jensen is big AND skilled enough to play on the fourth line. Maybe AV gives him a look with Lapierre?

by Wisp on Sep 26, 2011 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Seems like a bit of a waste for him – he’s offensively minded

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by Semi_Colon on Sep 26, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Barring another injury I don’t think Jensen’s got much of a chance of making the big club. Not quite yet at least, but he does look a hell of a lot older than 18 on the ice.

by Babych_for_HOF on Sep 26, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Considering only the cap:

And, wouldn’t want to burn that year of eligibility, either. Unless you’re SURE you need him in the season. If not, why not bring him up just for the playoffs?

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by Vancouverguy on Sep 26, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

meh

I stand by what I said in my post yesterday. Last night’s game did little to sway my opinion of the Sharks, eg. Doug Murray with the late hit on Lapierre then fighting a guy about 2 and a half weight classes below him. Looking for respect for the team from me when we’ve seen this type of crap from them for years? Be prepared for a long wait.

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by Kent Basky on Sep 26, 2011 6:34 AM PDT reply actions  

I don’t know, I mean late hits happen sometimes – though if I saw it happen again the next 3 times we played them then yeah I’d probably form some strong opinions. People might say the same about Rome now and I don’t think he goes around purposely trying to throw late or dangerous hits.

by BW79 on Sep 26, 2011 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Do not act like Douglas Murray picked that fight.

by meetyourmako on Sep 27, 2011 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

The news did not get much better when Steve Pinizzotto went to hit Douglas Murray, and hurt his shoulder, not to return.

Doesn’t anyone warn guys to not hit Douglas Murray? It’s not that easy to come out better for trying so.

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by Angy on Sep 26, 2011 8:47 AM PDT reply actions  

I think hip checks are my fave :)

by BW79 on Sep 26, 2011 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Definitely

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Sep 26, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

go Hammer!

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by Canuckles on Sep 26, 2011 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

+1

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 26, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol yeah he was slippery last night :) people kept missing him when going for a check and getting injured :p

by BW79 on Sep 26, 2011 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Douglas Murray

is like the Big Wall you see in all army boot camp movies. :) Only the true heroes will be able to, uh, climb him I guess? Okay so the metaphor sort of breaks down there at the end, but you get what I mean.

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by Pseuccubus on Sep 26, 2011 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Entertaining game last night for sure.

Have to admit that I’m more than a little disappointed Nolan won’t be making the team. Was rooting for the guy, really thought he would fit in well on the 4th line, and thought his experience would come in handy down the road. Oh well.
Lapierre looked really good last night, and it’s sweet to see him coming into his own as a checking centre (in my opinion anyways). With he and Malhotra both signed through the next two seasons, I’m expecting Lapierre to gradually move up the depth chart into the 3-spot, maybe being sort of mentored by Malhotra? Could be good for Lappy.

As much as I disliked the guy and was rooting for him to fail, I cannot hold the grudge against Duco. Straight up love the guy’s game, and I legitimately see him as a quality 4th liner for the Canucks this year. Duco-Lapierre-Mancari perhaps? Maybe metal face or Oreskovich rotating in? Should be interesting to see but it’s already MILES ahead of Bolduc and Glass.

As well, wanted to echo a post I saw in the game thread; I thought Murray’s hit on Lapierre was about as late as Rome’s on Horton. Good thing Max looks where he’s skating.

by RogerFenway on Sep 26, 2011 10:45 AM PDT reply actions  

I like Duco’s game. He is feisty and works hard.

One thing to consider though is that he is 5’ 10" and 194lbs
while Oreskovich is 6’3" 225lbs

I like how Duco stands up for his team mates and gets under their skin. With Oreo’s size, it seems like he could really put the hurt on the other team, but doesn’t seem to do it as much as he should. Nice big guys like him and Bernier leave you wishing they had small-man syndrome.

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by SteveNux on Sep 26, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Totally agree. I really, really liked Oreo's game at one point, but at this point I think he might be

on the outside looking in. Oreskovich is 6’3" 225, and is a beast. He noticeably looks big and intimidating compared with other NHL players, yet he seems to sort of float around in a troublingly “Raymond-esque” way and sort of… not do too much of anything. Obviously way too early to give up on a guy, but I didn’t completely disagree with Gallagher’s harsh assessment of his play in the finals. More than a couple times I saw Bruins being Bruins with Oreskovich on the ice, and absolutely zero response. From a fourth liner. Who is a beast. If Oreo played with Duco’s edge, this wouldn’t even be a discussion. For the time being though, size considered, I’ll take Duco on my 4th line.

by RogerFenway on Sep 26, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed 100%

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by SteveNux on Sep 26, 2011 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brad Marchand is 5’9, 183lbs. Hard to argue that he wasn’t effective in the playoffs last year.

by splnwezel on Sep 26, 2011 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey don’t get me wrong, I prefer Duco’s play so far over Oreo, but just imagine if Oreo added some more edge to his game.

Small guys can do some things really well in the NHL, but it’s just better for hitting when you weigh more (generally)

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by SteveNux on Sep 26, 2011 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

#4

Mr Ballard looked sharp again last night, he’s been playing great so far this preseason – really limiting his WHATWEREYOUTHINKING type plays. I wonder if AV stlil hates him? His passing and skating have been pretty impressive, I hope he gets a shot on the PP (really, anything to keep Samuelsson off the point…)

by Babych_for_HOF on Sep 26, 2011 11:01 AM PDT reply actions  

I hope AV gives him a good long look, and more than just a short leash. He’s a quality player, he’s been that way pretty much every where he’s been. To think he sucked all of a sudden, is beyond my comprehension.

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by Vancouverguy on Sep 26, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hope he does also.

I never really understood the refusal to use Ballard. I know he did have some “what were you thinking moments” as Babych said but so did a lot of other players especially in the playoffs (Errorhoff anyone?) but it seemed like because of AV’s feelings on Ballard (whatever they are/were – lack of confidence, hate, indifference lol I don’t know) he was benched but others that messed up as much weren’t lol. I would love to see him get a chance this season with some decent playing time :)

by BW79 on Sep 26, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree completely, the preferential treatment was maddening at times last season. I think Ballard was up against it from day one however, he came in with a pretty serious injury so he got a pretty late start. Combine that with that fact that he wasn’t an “AV Guy” (meaning Gillis brought him in, AV didn’t have any history with him), and I don’t think he had much of a shot to begin with. I think the first few games will be telling, if Ballard doesn’t get significantly more minutes than Alberts then I’ll start to get worried.

by Babych_for_HOF on Sep 26, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bieksa had some serious WHATWEREYOUTHINKING type plays when we were eliminated but Chicago, but now he plays on the top pairing.

I don’t think AV has a hate-on for certain players as much as everyone makes it out. He believes in guys he trusts and players have to earn his trust no matter if they are try-outs or $4 million/year players.

Last year Hodgeson wasn’t where they needed him, where as this year he looks WAY better. Performance = ice time. Nothing to do with “hate” or whatever. That’s just the media talking.

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by SteveNux on Sep 26, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

How's Eddie Lack progressing?

Dude was a beast in last year’s (?) rookie tourney.

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by Bockerz on Sep 27, 2011 5:27 AM PDT reply actions  

well

he had an average game, so the entire city of Vancouver has turned against him and decided the isn’t our next goalie.

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H. Sedin (59)

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Shots

D. Sedin (229)

Edler (212)

Hits

Lapierre (217)

Bieksa (148)

Blocked Shots

Kesler (56)

Edler (120)

ES TOI/G

D. Sedin (14.46)

Bieksa (18.22)

PP TOI/G

D. Sedin (3.21)

Edler (3.25)

PK TOI/G

Malhotra (2.42)

Hamhuis (2.88)

Corsi Rel QoC

Pahlsson (1.008)

Bieksa (0.875)

Zone Starts (OPCT)

D. Sedin (80%)
Malhotra (12%)

Edler (58%)
Alberts (40%)

Updated: March 24


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