The noon number: 15
by camcharron on Sep 23, 2011 12:00 PM PDT
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That is 15 games in suspensions already dished out by new NHL Senior VP of Hockey Ops and Player Safety Brendan Shanahan, 5 to Pierre-Luc Letourneau-Leblond for his hit on Vancouver's own Matt Clackson and 10 to Jody Shelley for a hit on Darryl Boyce.
It wasn't a secret last season that the NHL tended to be lenient in dishing out player suspensions. When a guy was hit with a heavy amount of games, it was a random occurrence. The penalties never matched the crime, but, for once, it now looks like the NHL is on the right track with Shanahan.
If you haven't seen them, check out the two videos posted on the NHL.com webpage by Brendan Shanahan and linked to his Twitter account. They give very detailed run-downs of what the rule is, what happened on the play, and all the factors that went into the amount of games Shanahan suspended the player for.
This is all very important for the Canucks, since they play a style of hockey that banks on their powerplay to succeed. They don't use a goon to deter players from hits (evidently, it didn't work for Toronto, because Jay Rosehill was on the ice with Boyce when Shelley made the hit) and instead focus on the best powerplay in the league last season. A good powerplay is your best enforcer. Players who have little value more than their fists and the odd dirty hit will end up seeing a lot less ice-time for their infractions.
In the Shelley case, it's been speculated that, being out for the remainder of the pre-season, he won't be able to hold onto his job, and for cap purposes, Philadelphia might have to let him go. I can't think that the situation with PL3 is much different in Calgary except he won't get let go to cap purposes. Calgary have a lot of marginal forwards jockeying for those depth spots, and, as a MoneyPuck advocate, I hope that they find another Tim Jackman instead of dressing a goon each night. (As a Canuck fan and therefore a Flames hater, I hope they dress PL3)
Shanahan, with consistent rulings, is ushering in an era which I hope will continue to systematically eliminate the specialized fighter. Despite their being four fights in the Canucks tilt with the Oilers last night, I think we're on the right track. More fans and media are questioning the worth of the hockey pugilist, and that sort of thinking is already on the minds of a few heads in General Manager's offices. It won't be long until the rulebook gurus catch hold of the new mentality as well.
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Darcy Hordichuk's fluffer over at Sportsnet begs to differ
A good powerplay is your best enforcer.
WARNING: Vomit inducing sucking up and idiocy lies beyond this link
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by ShiftySC on Sep 23, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Derek Zona
really thinks it was a good signing for the Oilers. At least that’s what he keeps telling himself. Check their game thread lol.
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He was totally kidding with you
He’s not a fan
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by Yankee Canuck on Sep 23, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
rec'd for TinTin ref
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In the end, mite was right as Boston won the Cup
Is he saying the Bruins beat the Canucks by playing like children?
by meetyourmako on Sep 23, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Good.
Eliminate the fights. Once the fights are eliminated, the goons will be gone, and most of the dirty hits will also be eliminated. A side effect will be that the majority of after-whistle cheap-shots will also be eliminated, with the proper rules in place.
(….not to mention that the life-span of the average hockey player may slightly increase, once the goons are gone)
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I'm all for the goon going.
But a fight that comes out of the play, like Kesler and Iginla a few years ago, when Jarome just could not take the blanket coverage no more!…that should stay. Make it totally go away, and I honestly am not trying to promote hockey Luddite opinion, but stick fouls and such will increase exponentially.
Look at how upset Hall got at a totally clean hit from a smaller guy last night( Duco hits far above his poundage, from what I have seen. Bang for the buck there )…if you don’t have that final steam valve, I do think you would see guys getting stuck in some dangerous places “accidentally on purpose” a lot more.
I don’t want to see that either. But yeah, I hope to see less goonery ( and that is what I want out of the game more than fighting.) What Shelley did is textbook. Shanny called him on it, and told everyone else, when you can have the time to think about it, don’t be an idiot. Both suspensions were for the same kind of stupidity . In both explanations he mentions the “guy had time” to not hit or minimize the hit. Calling out goonery is fine for this Canuck fan. Like Cam’s astute point on how this can only be good for a great PP team like ours.
intimidation won’t be gone, and there will probably always be the after whistle get togethers to “discuss” controversial plays.
But two guys fighting right after a big hit that was not called a penalty, or the 4th liners coming out the next shift and dropping them before the faceoff…that can be gone now and I would not miss it.
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well well...
Rumblings that Theo Peckham left the bench during that dustup between Duco and Hall/Smyth last night. Our good pal Bruce McCurdy is pretty upset with Duco over what he perceives to be a cheap hit on one of their young stars, and seems miffed that it’s an Oiler facing suspension… Problem with this is, the hit was nowhere near suspension worthy, whereas leaving the bench is an automatic 10 gamer if I recall correctly. Got a problem with the hit and situation that evolved (in which Hall was hardly innocent as he did his part to prolong it)? Fine. Kind of early to be complaining about these kinds of things but whatever, I get the feeling Oilers fans are more hyper-sensitive about their kids getting hit than we are about Sedin abuse. But you can’t bitch and moan when a guy cheats. And leaving the bench to join a fracas, especially as the 3rd (you could even say 4th) man in the altercation is stupid, and indefensible. Don’t get me wrong, I like and respect Bruce a lot. But methinks this has more to do with residual anger over the perceived slight of the Canucks and the lineup they iced than anything that actually transpired.
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Our good pal Bruce McCurdy is pretty upset with Duco over what he perceives to be a cheap hit on one of their young stars
Sigh.
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I understand his frustration, but really: it’s a long season. Getting this worked up over something so inconsequential, it’s not good for one’s health.
Also, I may need to completely eliminate Boston media from my follow list, because their game tweets right now are so nauseating it’s ridiculous. References to Game 8 and all that. Retribution is coming, my friends.
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I guess the thing that pisses me off
is that everyone says the Canucks didn’t have the grit to win the cup, yet the moment they try and establish some, they’re crying foul. I have a suggestion to any hockey fan who doesn’t like the Canucks standing up for themselves this season: if you took a stand and called out Brad Marchand for what he did to Daniel, I will take you seriously. If not…
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I’ve resigned myself to the fact that nearly everyone will hate the Canucks and everything they do this season, in a slight increase from last year’s post-season. It won’t be easy to stomach, but it’s going to happen. And I might as well ignore it or laugh at it. That was a great hit on the perfect target from a guy trying to crack an NHL line-up; quite frankly that’s exactly what I want to see from that player in the regular season. Did anyone wonder why that exhibition game had more intensity than most? It’s because most of the players in our lineup had something to play for. And that’s what pre-season games should be for the most part.
Anyone who had a problem with that play had their head up their ass.
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Amen. I still don’t understand the complaining that what the Canucks are doing is “shameful”. Vets don’t even try during the pre-season anyways, at least everyone playing for Vancouver last night was actually playing.
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
We're still winning games
so our line up can’t be THAT bad
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Exactly!
Problem with this is, the hit was nowhere near suspension worthy,
that was the only thing I read that made me go “hmmmm” in the convo…
Because it was a perfect hit. He faced up a guy perfectly, and had both arms down. It was perfect the way he exploded through a bigger guy.
Taylor Hall was the one that prolonged it…but whatever. That “hate” was minor compared to what we are resigned to. But whatever, I think I will keep the Ghandi sig all season…it does about sum it up. We did the first three.
The final piece, and 2012 is a cooler year to be considered a champ. Just think, if the world ends, the few survivors that build it up again will start out as fans of the Cup Champs of 2012!
;-)
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What??? That was a cheap hit? Jesus, better take all hitting out of hockey then.
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
tweet of the night
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This could be Rick DiPietro’s comeback year.
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Tomorrow, Tomorrow
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cuts cuts cutscutscutscuts cuts
Vancouver, B.C. – Vancouver Canucks President and General Manager Mike Gillis announced today that the Canucks have reduced their pre-season roster by 11 players.
The following players have been assigned to their junior club:
Kellan Tochkin, Right Wing (Medicine Hat, WHL)
The following players have been assigned to the Chicago Wolves:
Anton Rodin, Wing
Taylor Ellington, Defence
Alex Friesen, Centre
Prab Rai, Centre
Adam Polasek, Defence
Stefan Schneider, Defence
The following players have been released to the Chicago Wolves:
Matt Clackson, Left Wing Nathan Longpre, Forward
The following player has been released:
Manny Legace, Goaltender
huh, didn’t even know that Rai and Ellington were there…..
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That Nathan Longpre is getting a chance to make the Wolves too. He impressed enough in his time here to keep getting a chance there. There does seem to be some skill there…
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He kind of reminds me of Raymond
has some streaky scoring ability, good wheels, but small
except Raymond was a high draft pick.
Longpre was leading scorer
but it was a like, Tier 2 NCAA team, and Raymond went to a more respected hockey school. I think he gets a little dirtier than Mase, but that was changing before the broken back, and its all relative right.
Everyone finished every check this year!
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finishes!
I think you see that from our team, especially early when teams come in and try to play that style to show they can do what Boston did.
They will realize that, outside of Nashville, they don’t have a good enough defensive team for that.
So, I expect the PP to be #1 early again too, I guess!!!
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I like the video format. It shows how he’s actually coming to a decision as opposed to Campbell’s throwing darts at a board way of deciding suspensions.
by marcness52 on Sep 23, 2011 9:13 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Although a video of Campbell throwing darts would have been pretty funny as well
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
at least it would
eliminate the corruption claims
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