Quiet? What quiet? Western Conference Preview
Hey, this is tomorrow, right? Close enough, in any case. I don't want too many days going by, or I won't be able to use the fact that I posted these predictions up before training camps got going as an excuse when I'm wrong on 90% of what's here. The joy of the internet: when it's out there, there's nothing you can say that will make it go away. Once an internet porn star, always an internet porn star!
And on that note, let's look out West:
ANAHEIMBiggest hello: Andrew Cogliano - possibly. If his hands ever catch up with his feet, he’ll give the Ducks the depth scoring they need.
Biggest goodbye: Ray Emery, a reaction goaltender with streaks of brilliance and tremendously improved mental toughness after injuries kept him out of the league for a full year.
Watch for: Ryan Getzlaf had his breakout season three years ago; Corey Perry had his last year; Bobby Ryan’s turn? Not that there’s anything wrong with hitting 71 points, but even so…
Watch out: Jonas Hiller missed a large portion of last season with vertigo, and his back up is Dan Ellis. Ellis did good stuff for the Ducks when he came over from Tampa Bay, but he lost the starting job there for a reason.
Note: Now that Satan has re-upped Teemu Selanne’s contract, the next question: how does one team have two defencemen who played the full season, one of whom finished at -25 and the other at +32?
CALGARY
Biggest hello: Lee Stempniak is slight and inconsistent, but can score in streaks and is younger and cheaper than Daymond Langkow.
Biggest goodbye: Daymond Langkow. His injury history and contract, plus the Flames modest depth at centre, made him expendable.
Watch for: Lots and lots of pressure on Mikael Backlund to show he can earn one of the top two centre spots, and not just have it handed to him.
Watch out: As much as Calgary wants a centre who clicks with Jarome Iginla, if they can’t find a winger who can finish for Olli Jokinen, they’re doomed.
Note: The Chris Butler for Robyn Regehr trade was looked at mostly as a salary dump, and to a large degree it was (goodbye, Ales Kotalik!); but Butler is a far better fit for Brent Sutter’s pursuit game
CHICAGO
Biggest hello: Penalty minutes, and lots of them. A bit of secondary scoring, too, with the addition of Andrew Brunette, but that wasn’t the focus of the off season.
Biggest goodbye: As overpriced as Brian Campbell was, he was also an effective puck mover.
Watch for: Corey Crawford has been handed the reins, but he’ll need a quality back-up, and the hope is Alexander Salak is that guy on his second shot at North American hockey.
Watch out: The Blackhawks were looking for a centre good enough to move Patrick Sharp out of centre and back onto the wing where he’s more effective. They didn’t find one.
Note: With Sharp being out for the season opener (appendecectomy, plus why rush him back?), Dave Bolland is getting all the ice time he could ever want.
COLORADO
Biggest hello: Seymon Varlamov has yet to play a full season as the starter, but after a year of Peter Budaj and Brian Elliott, the pressure is quite low.
Biggest goodbye: John-Michael Liles’ point production doesn’t have an obvious replacement.
Watch for: Number 2 overall draft pick Gabriel Landeskog is going to start with the big club.
Watch out: Unless Erik Johnson suddenly lives up to expectations, there are no puck moving defencemen in the line up, and that’s going to hurt.
Note: The Avalanche have handed the keys to Varlamov and Jean-Sebastien Giguere; goaltending could be either their strongest position or one with a lot of injury trouble.
COLUMBUS
Biggest hello: Hello, Jeff Carter! Not just a passer for Rick Nash, but a good finisher in his own right.
Biggest goodbye: Jakub Voracek, in an exchange of potential for proven.
Watch for: With a bit of luck, Carter and Nash should only ever play together on the power play. That means the Blue Jackets have two working lines.
Watch out: If the "biggest goodbye" is Mathieu Garon, then something has gone horribly wrong.
Note: There has been a clear change in philosophy here: instead of focusing on shutting down opposing forwards, they are going to try playing more in the opposing zone, and James Wisniewski is key.
DALLAS
Biggest hello: Michael Ryder is a finisher, but he needs a centre that can feed him. If he can find chemistry with Mike Ribeiro (or even better, Jamie Benn) then he’ll be back at 30 goals.
Biggest goodbye: Brad Richards is a top level scorer, something the Stars will have trouble with this season.
Watch for: Alex Goligoski has stepped into Sergei Zubov’s skates, giving an excellent push from the Stars own zone.
Watch out: That Ribeiro is now the #1 centre on this team is bizarre - his light, no-contact game is the antithesis of every other player on the team.
Note: The most important player could end up being Sheldon Souray for what he does or doesn’t do. He’s played passionate, aggressive hockey all his career; in Edmonton, that proved his downfall. Is he a calmer player after a year in the AHL, and can he produce if he is?
DETROIT
Biggest hello: Ian White is here to keep pucks away from Jimmy Howard, if not opposing forwards.
Biggest goodbye: Brian Rafalski’s 48 points in 63 games are numbers Nicklas Lidstrom is too polite to sneer at, but that’s a lot of skill lost to retirement.
Watch for: Pavel Datsyuk finished the season with 11 fewer points than last season - in 24 fewer games.
Watch out: If new arrival Garnet Exelby sees more than half the season in the NHL, then something’s gone wrong in a big way for the Red Wings.
Note: With Jimmy Howard, Ty Conklin, and Joey MacDonald manning the net, they’re going to want to keep the puck as far away from their end as possible.
EDMONTON
Biggest hello: Much as I like the return of Ryan Smyth, and as good as Ryan Nugent-Hopkins will be, Eric Belanger will do more for the Oilers with a solid faceoff ability and excellent defensive presence.
Biggest goodbye: Andrew Cogliano never quite reached expectations, but may have been misused as a defensive specialist.
Watch for: Only two of their top ten scorers last season managed 70 or more games. Starting healthy and staying that way could produce much better results.
Watch out: Sam Gagner is going to get every chance to seize the second line centre position; if he fails, there are few other options available.
Note: Strange to think of a team this young having "reclamation projects", but Gagner, Belanger, Cam Barker, Ryan Whitney, Gilbert Brule, Shawn Horcoff, and Nikolai Khabibulin are all looking to rebound from either failed expectations or just down years.
LOS ANGELES
Biggest hello: Getting Mike Richards cost a lot, but now the Kings have two top-flight centres, with another (Andrei Loktionov) on the way.
Biggest goodbye: Ryan Smyth was brought in to show the young guys what a never-say-die attitude was. Mission accomplished?
Watch for: While Dustin Penner didn’t do much on his arrival, he’s in a contract season and the talent is certainly there…
Watch out: …But is the drive? A complaint that’s followed him his entire career, he’s got to pick up his dedication for his own sake and the Kings’.
Note: LA needs goals. In addition to Penner, Jack Johnson has got to get more than the three power play markers he’s managed each of the past three seasons. Smyth’s nine PP goals led the team last year.
MINNESOTA
Biggest hello: Dany Heatley may have had the worst full season of his career, but his goal and point totals were still better than anyone on the Wild managed.
Biggest goodbye: Brent Burns’ transition from right wing to defense seems to have gone well, yes? Certainly well enough to earn a regular spot on Team Canada.
Watch for: Matt Cullen is going to line up with either Heatley or Devin Setoguchi - expect his numbers to reach the 60+ points mark.
Watch out: Josh Harding has to come back strong to spell of Nicklas Backstrom, who was burning out by the end of the year.
Note: Cal Clutterbuck has likely peaked as far as his offense: he’s going to lose some ice time to actual scorers coming back to health, including Guillaume Latendresse and Pierre-Marc Bouchard.
NASHVILLE
Biggest hello: Er.. Niclas Bergfors? If this light, gentle player doesn’t hit the 20 goal mark, then he will contribute nothing to the Predators.
Biggest goodbye: Steve Sullivan. Despite injury trouble, Sullivan was one of their few creative offensive threats.
Watch for: Fourth generation Blake Geoffrion (yes, that Geoffrion) will be pushing Cal O’Reilly for the third line centre position, but could end up on the wing if they both do well.
Watch out: If pending unrestricted free agent Ryan Suter’s contract isn’t worked out quickly, it will be a distraction off, then on, the ice. Shea Weber’s $7.5 million arbitration win, coupled with Ryan Ellis and Jonathan Blum looking ready, mean that someone is likely to get moved from this position of strength.
Note: Is Sergei Kostitsyn the real deal? He finally found his game after months of searching, but now with a big contract, will he continue to play as hard as he needs to, or coast? When the going got hard in the playoffs, he only managed 5 assists in 12 games.
PHOENIX
Biggest hello: The slightly erratic Mike Smith to replace the "Cool Bryz". Not an upgrade, but affordable.
Biggest goodbye: Ilya Bryzgalov’s absence leaves the Coyotes with a larger, if less talented, goaltending brigade.
Watch for: Oliver Ekman-Larsson and Kyle Turris were handled with kid gloves as far as ice time and situations went: the reins will be loosened this year.
Watch out: Smith’s back-ups include the short-burst capable Jason LaBarbara, Curtis "Meh" McElhinney, and the former Toronto Saviour Justin Pogge (seriously, they moved Tukka Rask to make room for him). This means Smith will play 50 games for the first time in his pro career.
Note: When discussion for Most Underrated Player came around, Lauri Korpikoski didn’t get any votes at all. THAT’S how underrated he was, but not any more.
ST. LOUIS
Biggest hello: Stanley Cup rings. Jason Arnott and Jamie Langenbrunner were brought in to keep the kids on an even keel and avoiding the massive swings young teams are prone to.
Biggest goodbye: Cam Janssen. Young players can get distracted, and his job was to keep those distractions to a minimum.
Watch for: As much attention as the forwards get (for good reason), the defense pair of Alex Pietrangelo and Kevin Shattenkirk will bring the Blues back to playoff contention.
Watch out: A lot of young players had great seasons last year, and there is a risk of some of those numbers coming down for a few of them.
Note: Injuries - everywhere - weren’t as bad as they seemed, but they hit at almost exactly the wrong moments for a talent-thin team. This year’s improved depth - everywhere - should make dealing with injuries easier.
SAN JOSE
Biggest hello: Martin Havlat. Or Brent Burns. Whoever stays healthiest, really.
Biggest goodbye: A season in which niggling injuries produced a sub-par season for Dany Heatley, meaning below 39 goals for the first time in six years.
Watch for: With apologies to those folks suffering anterograde amnesia, the Sharks are clearly past the "playoff choker" label, having played in six rounds of playoffs in the past two years.
Watch out: If Havlat gets injured (always a risk), the Sharks are reduced to a one+ line team. Again.
Note: You’d expect Antti Niemi’s confidence to be high after a fine season establishing himself as the clear #1, but a shaky series against Vancouver to end the season may have derailed that boost.
VANCOUVER
Biggest hello: The fast and versatile Marco Sturm is going to get a shot at the top two lines with the Canucks.
Biggest goodbye: Christian Ehrhoff’s surprising offense priced him out of town.
Watch for: Auditions are wide open up front, with both Mason Raymond and Ryan Kesler (and possibly Manny Malhotra) out to start the season.
Watch out: If no one seizes that opportunity, confidence in the team’s depth will be shaken.
Note: Arguably the most devastating injury could be the one to Malhotra: if he can’t recover his effectiveness as a premier face off man and defensive forward, Vancouver doesn’t have anyone ready for that role. This could force Kesler into playing as a checker, bringing his numbers down.
As for where they're going to finish, I flipped a series of carefully selected coins and came up with this:
1) Vancouver
2) San Jose
3) Chicago
4) St. Louis
5) Los Angeles
6) Detroit
7) Calgary
8) Columbus
9) Nashville
10) Colorado
11) Minnesota
12) Anaheim
13) Edmonton
14) Dallas
15) Phoenix
Done and done. So let's drop the puck already!
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Detroit behind St. Louis?
That must have been a hell of a coin flip.
Also, why the Jimmy Howard hate? I can only assume that in your Colorado preview you’re complimenting Varlamov, a guy who lost his starting job to Michael Neuvirth, but you think that Howard needs to have pucks kept away from him? Homeboy should have won the Calder 2 years ago but did have a slight sophomore slump. Expect a SV% around .915 this year with a GAA around 2.40. The fact he’s got a better defense in front of him will certainly help.
I think it's because we haven't met him in the playoffs yet...
because yeah, Howard’s pretty damn good. Third best goalie in the West (behind Luongo and Rinne obvs). Although Conklin stank last season, and Joey MacDonald isn’t really NHL-level, so unless Howard’s ready to play 70 games or so, it’s still a position of weakness.
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by Ghetto Defendant on Sep 19, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree that Conklin was awful last year in St Louis, but Halak didn’t fare much better overall. After the hot start, he was as mediocre as any goalie in the NHL until the final 10-15 games where the team got healthy again. I think both Conklin and Halak struggled behind a makeshift team that was missing a lot of parts.
MacDonald is the #3 guy, so barring injuries, he won’t see the ice at all. In his one season with the Wings, Conklin posted a .909 SV% and 2.51 GAA, not the greatest numbers, but stats that are good for a back up goalie.
Howard’s biggest enemy is consistency at this point. He’s got the tools to be able to go on an extended run and play lights out for a good chunk of the season, but he gets in slumps pretty easily and puts too much pressure on himself to immediately get better, rather than just relaxing and playing his way out of it. I think that’s something that experience can help him improve on.
by Amerinadian on Sep 19, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Whoa!
St Louis in 4th? That seems pretty high to me
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
after watching the internet pornstar clip
1- i was dissapointed i got tricked
and 2- lappi is a great guy, even after the loss hes out there as a volunteer firefighter fighting car fires, classy frenchman
Sorry!
Someone had to be there. The Coyotes could overtake Dallas, but I think the Stars are more improved than Phoenix, and I can’t imagine Edmonton going through that injury trouble again this year. Should Turris get it going this season… Well, they play the games for a reason!
Flying that Nerd Flag high!
Gotta agree the general clamour re: Detroit & St. Louis
No way is St. Louis as good a team as Detroit. All that young talent is great (and I really like Pietrangelo and Stewart) but stack those fwds against Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen and company? Not even close. I think the Blackhawks will win the division, but not by a walk and Detroit will be right behind them and finish either 4th or 5th in the conference. And I think Edmonton will be dead last with that D/G combo.
The team I’m really looking forward to watching (besides our own obviously) is the Kings. I think Richards will really shine this year. If only GMMG had been around when those two were getting shopped around by Holmgren…
Good job on the Preview.
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by cyclone's ghost on Sep 19, 2011 12:34 PM PDT reply actions
Couple of reasons:
1) Had to put something in to make it interesting. Predicting the Wings to finish first or second in their division again would have been boring.
2) I like the colour blue. It’s pretty!
Now the real reasons:
1) I’ll take St. Louis’ bottom nine forwards over Detroit’s: Datsyuk and Zetterberg are clearly the best of all the forwards, but Abdelkader and Bertuzzi are pencilled in for the second line. I’ll take Perron and Oshie before them every time (removing Backes and MacDonald as St. Louis’ two best forwards). Heck, I’d take those two, Berglund, Stewart, Steen and D’Agostini and probably Langenbrunner (I think he’s back up to 50 points this year playing with an offensively-minded team) before any of the other forwards on Detroit. Which of those Blues forwards would you take Dan Cleary ahead of? Holmstrom might hit 20 goals again, but I don’t think so. Filppula might break through this year, or 40 points may be his plateau. Franzen… Okay, I’d take Franzen ahead of Langenbrunner.
2) The defence. Lidstrom alone gives this one to Detroit, but it’s much closer than you might think. Ian White is not what anyone would call a step up from Rafalski, while Shattenkirk picked up 43 points as a rookie, and most of those with 29th-finishing Colorado. The Blues have shut-down guys, power play guys, and a fellah that can carry the play: Detroit happens to have those in one player as well as through the rest of the defence. It may be worth noting that Lidstrom did have the first minus year of his career last season, but I don’t see that stopping anyone from getting him in their pools if at all they can!
3) Halak is a better goalie than Howard is. Part of it is my bias, because I prefer better positional goaltenders (like Halak) over reactive ones (like Howard). Fewer dramatic saves on Howard’s part, and less streaky play, and his game will improve; but until then, Detroit’s best tactic is to keep the puck well away from him.
The whole thing could go sideways if St. Louis has the same miserable timing with their injuries, especially to Halak or one of their top D, but I don’t think that will happen this year.
Flying that Nerd Flag high!
Not going to judge your picks
But for me, I am more “show me” this year.
The Blues need to show me and everyone else. Detroit has earned that benefit of the doubt.
I would not put the Hawks so high unless they “show me” as well. Not saying this for the whole rivalry thing, but I honestly don’t get all the smoke being blown up their ass. They were an 8th place team last year. Sure, they have a great core, so what?
They also overplayed them too much, gave up far too many points in the third period, at home and away ( those core guys got played too much and made mistakes ), to just give them the top of the division, let alone the conference, like some are.
Bottom line, its a team that had a 25th ranked PK that hired a couple of PIM magnets in Mayers and especially Carcillo. Brunette and O’Donnell, and Montador are all serviceable players, but they are not the superstars the Hawk lovers are making them out to be. Finally, they are all on 1 year deals. If that team starts out slow, it is entirely possible that a lot of “me first” goes on, as guys think of their own stats and not the team.
They are a pretty good team, but I would flip flop them and Detroit in your rankings Thursday. Honeslty, the Hawks PK will be their Achille’s Heel until proven otherwise.
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Obligatory Hawks fan response
I would not put the Hawks so high unless they "show me" as well. Not saying this for the whole rivalry thing, but I honestly don’t get all the smoke being blown up their ass. They were an 8th place team last year. Sure, they have a great core, so what?
They were an 8th place team… that finished 2 points out of the 4th spot. This was in a year with:
- Little off-season rest
- Poor chemistry due to integrating so many new players
- Lack of depth, leading to guys like John Scott and Fernando Pisani playing significant roles (sigh)
- 29 games of mediocre Turco
- An admittedly down year from Duncan Keith
- Some untimely injuries to key players (which exacerbated the lack of depth)
We finally started to gel in February/March, right around the time we made our trades and were healthy, but then we struggled after Bolland, Sharp, and Campbell all went down. I think the team Vancouver saw in games 4-7 is much more representative of the 2012 Hawks. I am not making excuses for last year’s team—Vancouver was clearly better. I’m just pointing out that things like calling them an 8th place team is very casual analysis. Their two biggest problems were the PK and the 3rd period—both cases where the extreme lack of depth on D and the bottom lines hurt. They’ll be much deeper this year, plus they will have some money to add on at the trade deadline.
Thats great
I am still picking 5th. I would disagree with the post on the Blues though.
Thanks for agreeing with me on the weaknesses though.
Have a great season.
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because of course
thinking anything other than the Hawks are the bestest team ever is denial right? ;-)
Seriously. I don’t care to play this game with you. I stated my opinion and you stated yours. Leave it at that.
Once again, I bid you farewell, no animus, and hope you enjoy your team’s season as much as I will enjoy my team’s season.
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A couple of things
We’re all waiting for Filppula to break out offensively, but Jiri Hudler (who was a MAJOR disappointment last year) has 20-goal, 50-point experience and being back in North America for another season could see him break out again to those numbers. Dan Cleary was on his way to a 30-goal season last year before he got hurt, and can play on the power play, at even strength and kill penalties. Darren Helm is a checking line center who has gotten better each season, and could see time on the second line this year. I think you’re either grossly overrating St Louis’ forwards or didn’t really do any research about the Wings.
Ian White is not Rafalski offensively, but he’s better defensively, which is where the Wings need help. The Wings also have a good second pair in Kronwall and Stuart (who played with Lidstrom last year, but got hurt, leading to Lids’ first-ever minus rating). Ericsson is awful, but for some reason Wings’ management loves him, so we’re stuck with him. They can then throw out a rookie in the #6 spot, or put in Mike Commodore, who will play better and has something to prove. So, that’s a shut-down guy (Stuart), power play guys (Kronwall, White and Ericsson, who is a converted forward) and Nicklas Lidstrom. Detroit’s defense is better than St Louis’.
Halak may be better, but if you want to talk about streaky goaltending, look no further than the guy in St Louis. He had 1 playoff run where he was lights out and parlayed that into a trade. What has he done that suggests he’s a superstar goalie outside of the the 2010 playoffs and first 10 games of last year?
Let’s not forget that the Wings had injuries last year as well (not to the extent the Blues did). The Wings are a far superior team to the Blues, and will finish above them. Again.
Hahaha
The defensive matchup is close. Hahaha! The Blues don’t have a defenseman that’s even as good as Niklas Kronwall and we’re still trying to decide whether he’s the 2nd or 3rd-best D-man on Detroit’s lineup.
The forwards thing is ridiculous. The Blues are blessed with one top line and three third lines. I guess that mathematically works out to decent, but they’re going to fall behind as the lines roll.
by J.J. from Kansas on Sep 20, 2011 7:22 AM PDT up reply actions
St. Louis could, with a bit of luck on the injury front, have three players with 60 points on their second line. Detroit will have one. I am unconvinced Hudler will get above “frustrating” this year, and I am more inclined to believe Cleary’s previous years – I think his numbers will go back to that level rather than continue at last season’s, especially given his injury history. If both teams roll lines, the one with the better players team-wide has the advantage – that’s St. Louis.
As for the defense, I’d be quite happy with Pietrangelo or Shattenkirk instead of Kronwall, and both well before White, Stuart or Ericsson. Neither is as good a hitter as Kronwall, but both play a smart positional game and are more effective getting the puck out of the zone and onto the attack.
Halak isn’t a superstar, and either is Howard. I’d rather have Halak.
Looking at who has come and who has gone, I think St. Louis has made moves with an eye to correct their biggest weakness – a young team. Young teams are vulnerable to streaks of good and bad play, losing focus and running on emotion. The players they brought in target that. Detroit’s weakness (as much as they had one last year – that was a good year!) was goals against and penalty kill, and I don’t think they’ve addressed it at all. St. Louis and Columbus have improved over last year at this time; Chicago’s best players are their youngest (as are the Blues’); and Nashville… Well, you see where I put the Preds. Detroit’s record against the Central division was already mediocre, and I don’t think it’s going to improve.
It certainly could be that I’m a year early on this call (the Blues overtaking Detroit), but if I am it’s only by a year.
Flying that Nerd Flag high!
So Cleary’s injury history is a factor, but nobody else on the Blues’ is? The Red Wings’ forwards scored a combined 89 more points than the Blues’ corps did, but somehow the Wings lose that matchup? If you go back to your original talk about taking out the top two (Datsyuk and Zetterberg for Detroit, Backes and MacDonald for St. Louis), the rest of Detroit’s forward corps outscored the rest of St. Louis’ forward corps by a total of 62 points (and 36 goals) – that means that if you take Cleary’s numbers COMPLETELY out of the equation, the Red Wings forward corps last year STILL outperformed that of St. Louis’ Even if you add in Arnott and Langenbrunner’s combined 26 goals last year, the Blues still have not added the kind of scoring depth that Detroit has. Detroit had 11 forwards with 10 or more goals… that’s almost four entire lines. The Blues had 7.
Pietrangelo is a good defenseman; he’s going to be really good later. I’m not convinced that Shattenkirk can actually play defense. His points totals last season were impressive, but the Avs didn’t have that much of a problem putting up goals; they had a problem preventing them. The fact is that Shattenkirk and Pietrangelo are the Blues’ top two defenseman and they have to be compared to the guy anchoring Detroit’s 2nd pairing. That does not make a close defensive matchup.
Personally, I think Halak is a better goaltender than Howard. I’d give that matchup to the Blues. I don’t think Halak is so much better than Howard to make up for the fact that Detroit has a MUCH better defensive corps (I’d probably put at least ten teams between them in the rankings) and a deeper set of forwards in front.
If both teams stay healthy, Detroit’s the better team.
by J.J. from Kansas on Sep 20, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
As for the defense, I’d be quite happy with Pietrangelo or Shattenkirk instead of Kronwall, and both well before White, Stuart or Ericsson. Neither is as good a hitter as Kronwall, but both play a smart positional game and are more effective getting the puck out of the zone and onto the attack.
So if you do the same thing that you did with the forwards, and take out the top 2 defensemen from each team (Lidstrom and Kronwall for the Wings; Shattenkirk and Pietrangelo for the Blues), how do the Blues have a better corps?
You say that the Blues (and Blue Jackets) both improved, but both finished so far behind the Wings last year that they were mere blips on the Wings’ radar. What about their moves (outside of staying healthy) has them all of a sudden catching up to the Wings?
I think the Wings finish closer to the Canucks in terms of points than the Blues finish relative to the Wings. And that’s coming from a guy who thinks the Canucks are going to finish at or near the top of the West again.
by Amerinadian on Sep 20, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Howard is very good
Emery is going to be the backup.
Burns plays for SJ now.
Calgary will be tied for last in the conference along with Edmonton.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 19, 2011 3:42 PM PDT reply actions
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by Sean Zandberg on Sep 19, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Last in the conference or not in the playoffs?
And what shall we wager?
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 19, 2011 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
One of those statements
Is not like the other
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Emery has every chance to make the Hawks this season, I agree – but until he’s signed, he’s not a member of the team. Had to make the cut-off somewhere!
Where did I put Burns?
I thought this call (Calgary) would be the one people would be outraged over. Any injuries and the Flames are hooped, but looking at the bottom set of teams, that holds true for pretty much all of them.
Flying that Nerd Flag high!
You put Burns with the Wild
I think Emery will beat out Salak for the backup position, even though he’s not signed yet.
Calgary will be demoted to being an AHL team (which it already is) at the trade deadline in a special NHL mandate.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 20, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Anaheim 12th?
Did a sniper take out Perry, Ryan and Getzlef with one bullet?
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we wish….
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you two need to be careful
you know, joking about players dying. Otherwise, someone from SCOC will come over here and lecture you on being classless fans.
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notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
Maybe Perry might
Rule 48 himself out of a few games this year. Unless he already paid Shanahan off. We can mention bribery on here right?
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