No Rest For The Wicked
How's this for a good morning message?
The shortest summer in franchise history unofficially ended Monday when a group of eight returned to the ice and began structured workouts ahead of main training camp opening on Sept. 16. The Canucks’ National Hockey League season begins in 37 days.
Make that 36 days as of this morning. So no use bitchin' about game three four six seven the Finals anymore right now, let's get to the meet and greets. (These links are covered in the morning links as well, but I thought I'd extract a few for closer examination.)
First up is Alex Edler who admits he had two broken fingers in the finals and one isn't even healed yet. He'll be re-evaluated next week. If you're keeping track at home, that puts Edler on the mend along with Kesler and Raymond.
I didn't include Samuelsson in that list because, on first glance, it looks like his abductor tendon and sports hernia surgeries haven't slowed him down. So sayeth the robot dancer:
"First of all, every time you step onto the ice for the first time in summer, you feel stiff...It doesn't feel any worse, any different, from the other years, so that's a good sign. I feel stronger in the area I had surgery on."
Better still is that Samuelsson, who watched the Canucks lose their footing in the Finals from the sidelines like the rest of us, was pressed about the perceived lack of team "toughness", notably from the loss of not just Raffi Torres but also perennial fourth liner Tanner Glass and 46 career NHL games Alex Bolduc. In a summer where the likes of Chicago and Edmonton willingly gooned up, Samuelsson's answer was, in my view, spot on:
"Me as a Swede and coming from Detroit before, no it’s not really an issue," he said of toughness. "What do you mean for team toughness? Is that fighting or battling for pucks? When I was in Detroit, we didn’t have too much toughness. It was hard battles. To me, that’s toughness. Drop the gloves? Yeah, I wish I could drop the gloves once in a while, but I can’t....Don’t get me wrong, but there wasn’t too much to add (to the roster). I think Gillis has a plan, and the rest of the management. Last year they showed it and stuck with that. If it’s not the right fit, they’re not going after them. If I was a GM. . . I like that approach. Maybe sooner or later it pops up, a good player, or maybe not. He believes in this group and I don’t see any reason why he shouldn’t."
We're going to be subject to a slew of tired narratives again this season, most of which will require a stiff upper lip. But this "lack of toughness" one really is piss poor. I'll be the first to admit the Canucks are a bit too brittle with Sturm and Salo, but shelter them properly and it is what it is. Could the Sedins battle more? Probably, but then again for the amount of slashing and hooking they put up with on a regular basis I'm content when they are still standing and not taking retaliatory penalties. But the idea that guys like Burrows, Kesler, Sammy, Juice, Higgins, Edler, Hammer and above all others Malhotra don't battle is absurd.
There's no shame in being beaten by a better team unless you use that loss to go digging around for problems that aren't actually there. The only thing better than Sammy's answer is if he grabbed the reporter by his collar, stared him dead in the eyes and made him melt a la Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Back to reality, Samuelsson, Edler and Germany's proud son Marco Sturm were the only regulars skating on Monday, joined by hopefuls Anton Rodin, Kevin Connauton, Adam Polasek, Sebastian Erixon and Darren Archibald. The rest of the team should start trickling in over the next few weeks.
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The idea of Samuelsson melting someones face.
Also, WHY DIDNT WE RE-SIGN RAFFI. Bah. I’m going to be bitter about that all year.
Raffi I understand, but this sudden nostalgia for Glass and worst still Bolduc is asinine. Using the latter two as a template for a lack of team toughness is simply stupid.
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 30, 2011 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Raffi
Was just such a huge threat to land a huge hit. I thought in the San Jose series Raffi was the one guy knocking people on their asses. He also put together a pretty damn good unit on that third line. I just think for the money Raffi got, a 2 year term was fair.
Glass/Bolduc are just 4th liners, Torres was a legit 3rd liner.
by The Stanchion on Aug 30, 2011 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree, his deal in PHX was certainly fair. If he wasn’t in the team’s plans, then either Gillis was looking to add more skill over brawn (which Sturm speaks too) or Torres wasn’t a AV-type player (which doesn’t seem true at all). If Sturm is destined for the second line, then Samuelsson – who was predominately a third line player in Detroit – replaces Raffi. Different players, but still a strong third line if they click.
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 30, 2011 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Raffi was/is a target
I don’t think he will ever receive the benefit of the doubt from a ref again.
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sooo
your trying to tell me raffi isnt an angel???
:(
i think theres a hole to fill that raffi had previously filled, hes a guy you either know is on the ice or find out the hard way
Torres
is no different than, say, Clutterbuck or Brown. Why he attracts such venom, I have no idea.
I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?
Because who he played for last year. “Canucks hockey” and all that bull
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
I've said this before
but you need to get over Aaron Rome and Raffi Torres.
I liked Glass
… for what he brought off the ice. I don’t have a lot of nostalgia for his play, he was okay but not great on the fourth line, but I did like him.
I liked him too, didn’t mean to suggest otherwise. But fourth liners are generally interchangeable. If we’re casually defining grit as chucking the body around and dropping the gloves if necessary, I’d say there is plenty to go around between Mancari, Bitz, Duco, Pinizzotto along with Volpatti and Oreskovich and god help us Fedoruk.
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 30, 2011 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions
The whole playoffs I was screaming for Glass to get off the ice when he came on...
His play in all three zones scares the bejesus out of me. Good guy, but that doesn’t help us prevent/score goals.
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Too bad the teams with toughness
Never seem to make the playoffs, so we’ll never know if it’s a style that works in the playoffs.
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Shh, don't tell McIntyre that
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 30, 2011 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Parros
May, and Thornton would like a word.
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by Section 312 on Aug 30, 2011 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions
He said "toughness" not "thugs"
Actually, that’s not fair either. Parros isn’t a thug because of that educational background. But last I checked May and Thornton gnaw on raw bones by campfires before hunting by moonlight.
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 31, 2011 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Haven't
Plenty of teams with “toughness” worked in the playoffs? I don’t know what you’re getting at there Cam. Unless you’re talking about pure fighters and goons, but that’s different than just plain “toughness”
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
It usually happens thanks to the good players who are with them. I’m talking more about teams like the Islanders, Leafs and last year’s Bolts who did nothing in particular.
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I think they mean mental toughness
Which the Canucks seem to like as opposed to someone like steve yzerman or been Sidney Crosby who exemplify mental toughness without being thought of as goons.
by Canuckelhead on Aug 31, 2011 9:19 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
And by like I meant lack
Damnyouautocorrect
by Canuckelhead on Aug 31, 2011 9:19 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Eddie Lack?
Future goaltending all star?
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Exactly
The next player in line for the fans to be hollering how he should be in net.
by Canuckelhead on Aug 31, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
And then
The next one they will run out of town
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
by Semi_Colon on Aug 31, 2011 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah
Sturm is a total wild card (bitches). I’m real curious to see how that works out.
Although I am worried that Edler is still not completely healed from the broken fingers.
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
I hope he’s alright, too. This is likely one of those “Yeah, one of my fingers is still sore,” and the journalist is all “Slow news day? Headline: EDLER’S FINGERS BROKEN FOR SEASON?”
by Wisp on Aug 30, 2011 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

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