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What did the Canucks do in July?

VANCOUVER, CANADA - APRIL 21: (from left) Ryan Kesler #17, head coach Alain Vigneault, Chris Higgins #20 and Mikael Samuelsson #26 of the Vancouver Canucks watch the final seconds of the third period in Game Five of the Western Conference Quarterfinals against the Chicago Blackhawks during the 2011 NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs   on April 21, 2011 at Rogers Arena in Vancouver, BC, Canada. The Blackhawks defeated the Canucks 5-0.  (Photo by Rich Lam/Getty Images)

With the July 1st unrestricted free agent date gone and past, and every marginal player from Anaheim to Washington snapped up on a four-year contract to Dale Tallon and the Florida Panthers, we are at the halfway point of the summer. We can officially declare teams "winners" and "losers" of the free agency period without a tinge of guilt or irony.

I don't act on a whim, however. I won't openly call a team a "winner" because they "added some much needed depth and grit from a proven playoff performer in Sean Bergenheim" or summarily pretend that the Panthers won't suck as much this season as they did last season. 

Star-divide

I admit. I'm a little hard on Florida sometimes. But that is because they have built a hockey team against every aspect of my belief in how a team should be built. I like a team to focus on organizational depth, grow players into certain roles or make trades for players undervalued by their current team to become stars. Free agency is a tool to tinker with the squad, not any way to construct a hockey team. No one player is "good enough" to turn a mediocre team into a good team or a good team into a great team.

San Jose, for instance, after trading for the exiled Dan Boyle and getting a good couple of seasons worth of production from him, somehow landed Brent Burns and Martin Havlat for two players who couldn't fit into the lineup anymore. Burns and Havlat lack the sexy-name appeal of Devin Setoguchi and Dany Heatley, but can bounce around the lineup and play in different situations. Neither is expected to carry the load for the team right out of the gate, and San Jose are better for it. The Nashville Predators are currently locked in a battle of wills with Shea Weber and, despite being below the cap floor, refuse to overpay him because their better defenseman (ssh) is an unrestricted free agent next summer and they need every available dollar. They cut costs by letting walk some players who they figured were replaceable by the current guys in the system.

And, holy crap, look at Los Angeles, who somehow landed an All-Star for a relatively cheap cap-hit because the Philadelphia Flyers felt compelled to overpay for a goaltender. The Washington Capitals gauged the market accurately and signed a goalie as good as Philadelphia's but for only 25% worth of a cap hit. In all instances, the improved teams judged their needs correctly—Washington had goaltender issues, San Jose lacked forward depth and a two-way defenseman, and Los Angeles, well, who *doesn't* want Mike Richards on their team?

So did the Vancouver Canuck™ Hockey Club fall into the "winners" or "losers" category? For starters, we must determine their individual needs:

#1 - Second line scoring winger Vancouver got Marco Sturm, who is somehow a risky risk-free player, seeing as he'll either score 25 goals if he plays an 82-game season, or he'll score fewer than 10 goals for you if he plays a 20-game season. Goes to show you what has happened to Marco Sturm over the past few years since the Joe Thornton trade: When I wanted to check his advanced statistics, I had to search through a bunch of different teams before I remembered where Sturm had actually played. I remember him being traded from Boston to Los Angeles for a bag of pucks, but not much after that.

In the organization, the Canucks can probably move a guy like Jannik Hansen or Cody Hodgson up the depth chart, but I'm guessing that they won't really be willing to do that. Martin Havlat was available, who the Canucks could have used, but no other additions from this offseason (given the contracts or what a team gave up in a trade) really pop out of the table that have me thinking "the Canucks missed the boat on THAT one!" so they maybe still plan to make a trade.

Either way, the Canucks have certainly not solved this need. Nikolay Zherdev is still available, however. He's certainly a more attractive option at 2 am at the bar than Tomas Fleischmann ever was.

Addendum: As I'm writing this, it seems Ryan Kesler will be out until mid-October, meaning that there's a chance Hansen or Hodgson get their due shot in the top six. I won't say this mission is a disaster until, say, December, when the health issues for the Canucks are sorted out.

#2 - Depth Mike Duco? Mike Mancari? Andrew Ebbett? These certainly aren't names that people really think about, but too much attention is paid to whether your depth guys have "bang" or "crash" or other euphemisms for "neanderthal who doesn't know which side of his stick to shoot with". Thankfully, none of these guys fit that mould, and are for the most part players who can eat five or six minutes a night in a sheltered role without giving up too many shots.

The Canucks do have options from the farm, like every team does, and they also benefit from maybe having the best third line in hockey with Manny Malhotra, Jannik Hansen and Christopher Higgins (although that may be the second line to start the season). That means that the Canucks fourth line is any other team's third line, and they don't need to stack a line full of brawlers or pluggers. So, do it. I'm pumped over this one.

#3 - Defense Check. Like it or not, Christian Ehrhoff was a terrific offensive defenseman and a very key part in the Canucks powerplay. However, Christian Ehrhoff was also lacklustre defensively, took a lot of risks, got burned on those risks many-a-time and was totally one of those guys who ate all the pretzels in the party mix on team flights. I use Fenwick against, adjusted for zone starts, to determine a player's defensive worth. Fenwick is the #fancystat name for 'unblocked shot differential' and, per 60 minutes, Ehrhoff's was 44.75. That was slightly better than former Canucks Bryan Allen and Brent Sopel last season.

Comparatively, Alexander Sulzer was 41.21, which is around the league average, squeezed neatly in between former Norris trophy winner Duncan Keith and Minnesota stalwart Greg Zanon. Aaron Rome was in Kevin Bieksa and Shea Weber territory. Keith Ballard was sitting next to Willie Mitchell. The Canucks defense is extraordinarly not flashy (and, certainly, zone starts don't tell all the story. Quality of Competition is highly important, so those three players' minutes were definitely not as tough as my adjustment makes them out to be) but it shows that the Canucks may be quite well-off defensively and have a number of efficient riches to keep the team going. Sulzer was a fantastic addition by Mike Gillis and we should all give him a round of applause, until he makes a key giveaway in an Overtime game and half of the team's fans are turned off of him forever.

As for replacing Ehrhoff's offense, since secondary scoring is going to be a big factor for the Canucks, I make a number of points about Alexander Edler's offensive improvement in the forthcoming Vancouver Canucks season preview magazine produced by Maple Street Press. Look for it, but I can tell you that the initial prognosis is good, and Edler has been improving the offensive side of his game every season.

#4 - Goaltending This is not an issue. Roberto Luongo was 2nd among starting goalies last season behind Tim Thomas in even strength save percentage, and Cory Schneider was 2nd among backups, behind only James Reimer (who has become a starter). This is not at all an issue, and any fans of the Canucks, or fans of any other team who question Luongo's ability to win are grasping at straws that have materialized out of thin air.

The only goalie to do better than Luongo last season was the goaltender who posted the best single-season save percentage in the history of the National Hockey League. Roberto Luongo is 10th all-time in playoff save percentage. He did the first thing with a battered defense and the second thing in partnership with a team that once had Jeff Cowan play on its second line.

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#5 - Shorter season, better travel schedule As it stands, the 82-game schedule for a West Coast team is horrible. As we slogged through the playoffs last season, the Canucks got busted up something fierce, and, as it happens every year, it makes the Stanley Cup Finals pretty unwatchable because the star players on both sides are completely beat up. It also runs too late, and it is difficult to feel all too upset about a Game 3 loss on a lovely mid-June evening in Canada's hottest summer city.

If Mike Gillis has not petitioned the Board of Governors for a more reasonable 50-game season that ends in April (he should not have too much trouble convincing Maple Leaf or Panther brass to accept those provisions) he is simply not doing his job in the interests of the Vancouver Canucks, who travel more than any other team and already have health concerns heading into the season. By the time my attention was focused on the base ball season, the Toronto Blue Jays and Seattle Mariners were both completely out of the running, and by the time the Canucks season ended and we turned our hopes to another local sports, the BC Lions were completely out of it as well. And now we are halfway through the summer months and I feel like it was only yesterday I was smashing bricks through the window of Chapters to collect my copy of Scorecasting making insensitive riot jokes about Vancouverites.

#6 - Is Ryan Kesler healthy? Please tell me Ryan Kesler is healthy As of 2:51 Pacific Time on August 2nd, Ryan Kesler is not due to start the season. This is a key issue.

Cliff's Notes: So, Cam, are we winners or losers?

We are winners in the sense that we didn't throw around any money this offseason and kept the core relatively happy. We are losers in that the forward group is definitely not better off if we start this season. Losing some of the scoring from defense will highlight some of the concerns I have for the forward group, and we may have to rename the 'helicopter line' the 'hospital line' given the propensity of the Canucks to have second line player succumb to mysterious illnesses.

The Vancouver Canucks second line I would compare exactly to the Springfield Nuclear Power Plant softball team in the classic Season 3 episode. They are a delight on paper, but will be functionally unavailable to play come season's start.

All in all, I am not going to pass judgment on this team out of July, but there are still some issues that need resolving. We'll see what happens in August. Clear winners are Nashville, Los Angeles, San Jose, Washington, of course, along with Columbus and the rest of that Central Division. I can't say I care too much for the offseason of Philadelphia, Florida or Buffalo, who harmed their long-term prospects for short-term gain that probably won't result in a Stanley Cup. But we'll see. Crazy things happen.

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Keslord has surgery

according to TSN:

“Vancouver Canuck centre Ryan Kesler has undergone hip surgery, the NHL team said in a release Tuesday. The Selke Trophy winner is expected to make a full recovery in 10-to-12 weeks.”

Gone until mid October.

by johnnycanuck on Aug 2, 2011 3:31 PM PDT reply actions  

might be a blessing in disguise. Who knows. Hodgson is certainly going to get a long look now.

Wouldn’t it be a nice change if we started the season all banged up and then finished the season and started the playoffs completely healthy?

by Wisp on Aug 2, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

it's a good dream, that...

i’ma go with it til at least march.

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by Twitchy2010 on Aug 2, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

not really dreaming, just mean to imply the ending of the season is the time to worry about injuries.

certainly some will react with the expected pessimism.

by Wisp on Aug 2, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

i wasn't saying it's bad

i’m buying in…

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by Twitchy2010 on Aug 2, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

good forward ( pun intended) thinking

Kesler gets what sounds like relatively minor ( for that injury, it was a small tear that they tried to let heal on its own first )surgery that he should fully recover from. He starts the season a little later, and hopefully has more in the tank next summer

Hodgson gets his chance as a center, and, if nothing else, showcases his NHL level talents for a trade when Kesler comes back ( though I see him and Schneids as being irresistible to NJ in a package to get Parise at the deadline.

I’m with Cam though ( great article BTW ). He aint done yet. If the entire hockey mad city knows what we need ( dynamic 2nd line winger for Kes’ ), the hockey mad owner and GFMMG are well aware.

I trust Gillis to make the right move. At the right time.

I don’t know how much the “rest of that Central” has improved cam, though, honestly.

Rivalry aside, the Hawks may be better, but could just as easily implode with a bunch of older guys on one year deals, a loose cannon that they are already talking about managing ( like they will find the magic button to push on Carbomb to prevent him blowing up at the wrong times )…we’ll see. On paper, yes. in reality, lets see.

Same with Detroit, who really did not replace Rafalski with Big Red and White ( who I like too, but … )

I honestly don’t know what the Blues did, and Nashville is entirely contingent on the Weber thing not blowing up in their faces and tearing the team apart early.

I am actually thinking that division, at least early on ( and with the exception of the BJ’s, who I predict have a great start and lead that div in say….late Nov )….struggles.

Too much talent to not be great teams that are around at the end, and some of it could be wishful thinking…but there are almost as many reasons to get jacked about that division as belittle it.

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by vancitydan on Aug 2, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

BTW

The GFMMG was intentional. He is the General Fucking Manager Mike Gillis because he is the reigning champ!

At least until he makes the first deal that we think he fucked up on. ( this year, aint talking about Bernier and Hordy! )

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by vancitydan on Aug 2, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s almost too bad we are going balls-out for the cup. Having a young team with Grabner, Hodgeson and Schneider would be pretty fun to watch. I think that’s the old Steve talking though. The die-hard-canucks fan that still enjoyed watching the character Canucks lose in the late 90s.

a ginger ball hockey player... no wonder I'm a Canucks fan

by SteveNux on Aug 2, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm happy with the job GMMG has done so far, but I wouldn't say he's been perfect

I would call the Demitra signing a bust, and at the moment I would also say we lost on the Grabner for Ballard trade, even though I was a fan of it initially.

by Sandwich76 on Aug 2, 2011 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

sorry, Demi-who?

by NS_Cix on Aug 2, 2011 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Moore?

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by Section 312 on Aug 2, 2011 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

really should be GFMMFG

shouldn’t it?

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by Twitchy2010 on Aug 2, 2011 4:17 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I’m partial to GFMMMFG

by Shand on Aug 2, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm in favor of

GFMracecarMFG

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by pooponastick on Aug 2, 2011 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

a dog a panic in a pagoda?

by NS_Cix on Aug 3, 2011 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

May a moody baby doom a yam?

by kiyotok on Aug 3, 2011 12:54 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm not a stats genius and perhaps the uber-numbers prove me wrong

but i will always think that shea weber is a better defenceman than ryan suter.

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by cyclone's ghost on Aug 2, 2011 4:49 PM PDT reply actions  

They are both excellent

I can see the argument being made for Suter…he seems to have a bit for offensive instinct than Weber.

Not saying Shea does not, but I like how Suter jumps into the play better

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by vancitydan on Aug 2, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Lions?

Out of it? Never, this is the CFL, dammit!

I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
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by Smoboy41 on Aug 2, 2011 7:16 PM PDT reply actions  

The longer I look at this picture

The funnier it gets. I don’t think I got enough sleep.

by Sandwich76 on Aug 3, 2011 6:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

how

is this not green yet? Perfect reply!

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by Canuckles on Aug 3, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

so awesome! Still laughing

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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 3, 2011 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man, I love Sturm. Hopefully this season he becomes a bad ass for you guys.

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by pooponastick on Aug 2, 2011 10:57 PM PDT reply actions  

It would be nice to see MG get a good second line winger for Hodgson/Kesler. Hodgson will probably get a chance but with Kesler and Raymond out, who does he get paired with on the second line? It would be nice if he had a skilled winger that he could pass to.

by marcness52 on Aug 3, 2011 1:09 AM PDT reply actions  

If healthy, Sturm or Samuelsson will fit that role until something good is on the market.

by seedvt on Aug 3, 2011 1:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

My Grade for GMMG

I would give him either a C or an I (for incomplete).

Forwards:
I love the signing of Sturm if he is counted on to play on the third line the majority of the time, as he is not a long term second line option. I generally don’t care if we lose third liners and fourth liners, even though Torres threw some tough checks. We will be fine without him. The major fail was not getting a legitimate scoring threat. To say that none were available is not true, with a number of good wingers being moved this off-season.

Defense:
I don’t think the Canucks will miss a beat without Ehrhoff. Playing the right point on our PP has been the easiest gig in the NHL since Naslund claimed the side boards as his office of dominance in the early 00’s. I love our depth, and I like that they will get to fill in the blanks. Bieksa is slightly overpaid, but I’m happy he is back, as the alternative is far worse (Yes he could have gotten more, it doesn’t mean he isn’t overpaid.)

Goaltending:
We have a problem in goal? I was unaware…

Our one glaring need is on the left or right of Kesler. With two legitimate top scoring lines, this team will be almost impossible to stop. To me, GMMG will either acquire that player and make us an overwhelming favourite (Grade A+) or he won’t be able to, and we still have a decent enough shot at the cup. But that route gets a C from me… Lets see the killer instinct!

by T.Haynes on Aug 3, 2011 10:01 AM PDT reply actions  

pretty good analysis

I like it.

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by Canuckles on Aug 3, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sharp contract extension

5 years, 5.9M per

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by Semi_Colon on Aug 3, 2011 10:11 AM PDT reply actions  

fairly good deal

they paid a lot for him, but Sharp has been getting better every year for the Hawks and is a pretty important piece on that team.

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by Canuckles on Aug 3, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Definitely pretty fair value. It looks like a lot to us, with Kesler at 5M and the Sedins at 6.1M, but that’s because those deals are lower than they could have been

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by Semi_Colon on Aug 3, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

"who travel more than any other team..."

Jeebus, move the fark on and grow a sack. The Nucks also have played in a dvision that’s been farily mediocre in terms of competition – so let’s have the other GM’s petition the league for a full repositioning of all the teams in terms of strength of schedule. BTW, asking your GM to once again bemoan the various conspiracies arrayed against his team is one brick short of an edifice – he shot his wad last Spring, and failed miserably.

by Waylon on Aug 3, 2011 11:02 AM PDT reply actions  

Canucks actually

Don’t travel more than any other team. I think that’s a common misconception.
Everyone should check here
The Kings, Panthers, Ducks, Oilers, Stars, Coyotes, Flames and Avalanche all travel more than Vancouver this year.

In fact, highest they’ve ever been was third, last year. Two years before that they weren’t in the top five

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by Semi_Colon on Aug 3, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow Waylon

You got some regular season angst worked up in August!

Kudos.

BTW – you Hawk guys that hate us need some new materiel. You do know that Bow Sr did that far more…almost every game as a coach, and often as a GM. Like Carcillo, its OK when its your guys I guess. Everyone does the “working the refs”, like Bowman Sr going to the ref’s room FFS!

Next thing it will be AV, and that biter, and how classless Henrik is ( because everyone in the NHL just goes out and gives about 14% of the AAV salary to a kids hospital…yeah…probably was forced to do it cuz his bro did too. ) Oh, and BTW, even without the NW div. #’s, the Canucks still won the Prez Trophy handily. because of a great record against the other ( Pacific and Central ) divisions. That has to be the lamest of all the Canuck hater go to lines…

You are the guys that need to “move on” my friend. I mean, still bothered by a first round exit months ago. Yeah, it was a fun series. You lost. Not because of anything other than thats what happens, a team wins and one loses.

You do know that Cam was being sarcastic right? At least, I think he was!

Enjoy the summer… I am impressed by the summertime level you got going though!

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by vancitydan on Aug 3, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Your tears of bitterness continue to sustain me VanDan

Please tell us all again about how you can’t remember another SC – winning shutout being “so shaky.” Still hilarious after all this time. And remember, you PLAYED THE GAME!!!

by Waylon on Aug 3, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

/eye roll

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by Twitchy2010 on Aug 3, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh Waylon

Like I said, so unoriginal. Bitter? Huh?

Why so mad?

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by vancitydan on Aug 3, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

BTW

Not sure which game you are talking about young man…the “so shaky” thing.

What SC win was that…Timmy’s? I admit, I plagarized from some of the real media on that one. Everyone could see that Timmy could have got got that game.

But he didn’t…we are looking forward here now, and are confident our team can compete for it all again and get that 16th win.

Is that the one you mean? I assume that means that you find all the Van media as sad as you find our team and fans then, B/C they said that too…

C’est le vie. Enjoy the summer, and good luck getting that stick out of your ass…

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by vancitydan on Aug 3, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh no!

Canuck hatred from SCH. Run for the hillszzzzzzzz…….

I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
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by Smoboy41 on Aug 3, 2011 11:57 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

move the fark on and grow a sack.

How’s about YOU grow a sack and type ‘Fuck’.

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by Twitchy2010 on Aug 3, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ooooh, Off-Season Troll!!!


So you know he mad.

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by ShiftySC on Aug 3, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

You know, I thought I had finally written a post without some argument taking place in the comment section.

by camcharron on Aug 3, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really?

Are you new to this site? We love to argue.

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by Section 312 on Aug 3, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

What the hell else

Is there to do? I’m coming here to look at all you guys’ mugs!

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by Semi_Colon on Aug 3, 2011 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I missed a not in that sentence

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Aug 3, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or did you Semi?

The subconscious is a powerful thing.

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by Section 312 on Aug 3, 2011 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nah… Semi only “semi-missed” a not there.

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by Vancouverguy on Aug 3, 2011 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't want to know

anything about a Semi mist.

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by Section 312 on Aug 3, 2011 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now,

Is that a Semi mist, or a semi-mist?

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by Semi_Colon on Aug 3, 2011 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

hopefully it isn't a mist

and more like a cloudy f… what am I saying?

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by Canuckles on Aug 4, 2011 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

WTF???

WTFWTFWTF????

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by Twitchy2010 on Aug 3, 2011 11:29 AM PDT reply actions  

Whoops!
@News1130radio
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by Semi_Colon on Aug 3, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol

awesome.

The new world order. Say something stupid, blame the hackers.

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by Twitchy2010 on Aug 3, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Zherdev off the market...
Russian sports website Sport Express reports that the winger has signed a contract with Atlant Mytishchi of the KHL.

from TSN

by T.Haynes on Aug 3, 2011 11:47 AM PDT reply actions  

Good riddance..heheh

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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 3, 2011 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Weber awarded 7.5 million/yr in arbitration.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=373133

by splnwezel on Aug 3, 2011 12:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Nice. Well, now he’ll never be a Canuck

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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 3, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Keep the dreams alive!

That’s on a one year deal. Over a longer term you could bring that cap hit down (look at Keith’s contract), and hey, offload Ballard and Salo leaving….

Of course, I’m pretty sure that would never happen

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by Semi_Colon on Aug 3, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha, yeah I was just squashing some people’s fantasies…or at least attempting to :)

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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 3, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

That only makes it more likely he’ll ultimately reach free agency and sign with us a year or two down the road. :)

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by Jevant on Aug 3, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t see Gillis trying to circumvent the cap again after the Lou fiasco and I don’t see him paying a defenceman that much money either.

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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 3, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

If we do get Weber, it comes down to if the rumors about him wanting to come to Vancouver being true or not, and Gillis convincing him to taking a discount.

by Wisp on Aug 3, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seems like a bit much to me but he is the best defenseman in the league or at least top 3. Maybe the arbitrator gave the benefit of the doubt to Weber because of the horseshit offer the Preds were giving.

by marcness52 on Aug 3, 2011 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or maybe he compared it to Ehrhoff’s UFA contract with the Sabres…

by splnwezel on Aug 3, 2011 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ehrhoff wishes he was as good as Weber.

by marcness52 on Aug 4, 2011 1:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Really?
It also runs too late, and it is difficult to feel all too upset about a Game 3 loss on a lovely mid-June evening in Canada’s hottest summer city.

Are you referring to fans or players here? It doesn’t seem true in either case, but I think that’s a pretty sad picture to be painting either way.

by april o'neil on Aug 3, 2011 1:01 PM PDT reply actions  

How is it a sad picture

If someone isn’t too upset after their team loses a game? There are other things in life besides hockey

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Aug 3, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Of course there are other things in life besides hockey, and most of them are far more important, too!

But the way that pleasant summer weather affects someone’s perspective on a hockey game isn’t a compelling argument for chopping 32 games off of the season. There are legitimate complaints, such as the amount of injuries that occur during a long season and grueling schedule, that are reasonable.

I also don’t really buy that someone who is a long-time, enthusiastic fan of a team will simply be mildly disappointed by a playoff loss when a championship is at stake. Being upset is pretty normal, and definitely consistent with most passionate fans. It just doesn’t fit with the attitude that I’ve seen from Canucks fans, and I feel the same way, when my team loses.

by april o'neil on Aug 3, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree 100%

in no way does being able to go outside on a nice day make a loss hurt less. It hurts the same the only difference is I am outside being miserable rather than inside.

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by Section 312 on Aug 3, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hahha, amen to that. I’ve been working off the anger through hiking and biking

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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 3, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Physical activity is a good distraction

And it also lessens the temptation to punch anyone who says, “Relax, it’s only a game!” or “There’s always next year!” straight in the face.

by april o'neil on Aug 3, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

To help cope with the off-season I decided to follow the F1, not realising they don’t really race in August (which is the month I consider to be least hockey-y month. Foiled!)

by eleccy on Aug 3, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn 3 week

summer break eh? At least it should give McLaren time to further close the gap on Red Bull. Would like to see someone take the fight to Vettel in the second half of the season.

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by Section 312 on Aug 3, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tell me about it. I know that the only reason I dislike Vettel is that he’s running away with it but damn, I was so happy when he finished off the podium in Germany. And I would like the person who closes the gap to be Button.

by eleccy on Aug 3, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well that we can agree on

I have been a big Button fan since his Honda days. And McLaren is my fav team. So I would love to see him reel in Vettel. Maybe we can find a way to make it rain at every remaining GP? Button would win them all.

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by Section 312 on Aug 3, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I support McLaren too, although alternate supporting Hamilton and thinking he’s a massive dick. I have a big soft spot for Kobayashi, the crazy bastard. More rain would be great (although maybe less than in Canada, not sure how often I can cope with two hours of pointless commentry – “there’s a bird!”) and fewer wheels falling off the car!

by eleccy on Aug 3, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah Canada was messed up

but Hungary was fun. Hamilton still getting 4th was crazy good. As soon as I saw it was raining at the Hungaroring I told my room mate Button would win.

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by Section 312 on Aug 3, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hungary was definately a good race. I like the changable conditions, it adds excitement. Not sure about all this stuff about Pirelli making their tyres more durable, sort of defeats the purpose of needing more pitstops and strategy.

by eleccy on Aug 3, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wish they would go back

to allowing them to refuel during pit stops. I like the strategy of it all. Deciding to run on a lighter load off the start to try and get a lead. 2 stop strategies etc etc etc.

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by Section 312 on Aug 3, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can understand it from a saftey POV – wouldn’t want anything like what happened to Heidfeld happening more. (Disclaimer: I was never a fan of F1 where there was refueling so maybe it’s not as bad as I have been led to believe).

by eleccy on Aug 3, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well I know a lot of people

didn’t like it. And it wasn’t a safety thing. They didn’t like the artificial jumbling of the running order. I actually love that. I love trying to figure out if a guy is going to stop again does he have enough of a lead. If he gets stuck behind a guy that he clearly is faster than will it cost him because of his strategy etc etc etc. I don’t think it is that unsafe. And despite being better this year you still don’t see a tonne of wheel to wheel racing for positions and I don’t think refueling would change that drastically one way or the other.

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by Section 312 on Aug 3, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well I think the last couple of races have had some nice overtaking – I’m not sure if you’d class Button and Hamilton’s leapfogging in Hungary as the rain briefly came back as wheel to wheel racing but I thought it was fun to watch.

by eleccy on Aug 3, 2011 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

my uncle was at

a toronto indy or f1, not sure which. there was a crash and a wheel came flying off the car, went straight thru the fence and destroyed him, broke dam near everything and had no clue who he or anyone else was

by free_raffi on Aug 3, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well damn, that sounds emphatically not good.

by eleccy on Aug 3, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

yea apparently it sucked

its my aunts ex husband, never met the guy lol so he wouldnt remember me either way

by free_raffi on Aug 3, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

No to a shorter season.

You people are insufferable enough as it is with no hockey. A longer off season would be unbearable.

I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?

by Smoboy41 on Aug 3, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

What do you mean "you people"

Nice movie reference, I love that one.

I think Smo’ was referring to us as well though…

;-/

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by vancitydan on Aug 3, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha

I think he means the rest of us here at NM

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by Semi_Colon on Aug 3, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

He sounds like the grumpy old man yelling at us young’uns to “get the hell off his lawn.”

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by Vancouverguy on Aug 3, 2011 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn straight

I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?

by Smoboy41 on Aug 3, 2011 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Is it just me...

or does this guy look kinda like Ron Maclean?

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by Big Blue Whale on Aug 4, 2011 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah, since he responded to my post

I thought he meant us. In that case, I agree, you people are insufferable! :)

by april o'neil on Aug 3, 2011 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably

a reply fail on my part.

/damn Hawks fan, calling me out…..;)

I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?

by Smoboy41 on Aug 3, 2011 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

WHAT DO YOU MEAN

‘YOU PEOPLE’?!

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Aug 4, 2011 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

whadda ya mean, "you people"

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by Canuckles on Aug 4, 2011 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Guys, rad interview from Mike Gillis and Gilman.

Among other things, they discuss their plans to avoid hang over, and think Cody Hodgson can play wing.

http://www.teamradio.ca/news/gillis-and-gilman-on-team1040/

by Wisp on Aug 3, 2011 5:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Well, what Gillis and Gilman think Cody can do, and what AV actually does, are two very different things…

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by Semi_Colon on Aug 3, 2011 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its a pretty great interview

First you hear from MG is “well, we stopped listening to you guys…” to Pratt.

I don’t imagine MG would say he will get a shot at Top 6 wing if he had not talked to AV though, no?

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by vancitydan on Aug 3, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gilman seems to be the good cop

to MG’s bad one…he likes giving Donny and Dave little shots.

I love him more for it….

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by vancitydan on Aug 3, 2011 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Case in point – Ballard.

by marcness52 on Aug 3, 2011 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sharks wisely sign D Colin White to a 1-year $1 million deal

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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 3, 2011 10:44 PM PDT reply actions  

good pickup, although he’s been injured in the past few seasons he’s still a reliable shutdown guy

by seedvt on Aug 4, 2011 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Trent Hunter

for the second line?

I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?

by Smoboy41 on Aug 4, 2011 7:15 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Do not want
Unless he can somehow return to the form he was in in his 25 goal year, he’d fit nicely as a 3rd liner. Problem is we already have lots of players that can play the 3rd line well

by Chocolate on Aug 4, 2011 7:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

You're right

I went to hockeydb.com after making my post. Holy diminishing returns, Batman. I had no idea how much his production had tailed off.

I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?

by Smoboy41 on Aug 4, 2011 9:34 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm liking the Sharks

strengthening what is their weakest link.

Not liking the competition they will present.

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by Canuckles on Aug 4, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

What did the Canucks do in August?

Dusted off Owen Nolan and moved a rock to find Todd Fedoruk. Suck on THAT Brad Winchester fans.

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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 4, 2011 10:27 AM PDT reply actions  

...

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Aug 4, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

What show is this from? I feel like I should watch it.

by marcness52 on Aug 4, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Some British show that Section is enamoured with. Never Mind the Buzzkills?

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Aug 4, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Buzzcocks

Never mind the Buzzcocks. It’s about music. And it is very funny. Seasons 19-22 are the best when Simon Amstell was host. They are all available on youtube.

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by Section 312 on Aug 4, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hopefully Hodgson gets a chance

on the 2nd line!

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