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Potential NHL Rule Tweaks: Which One Makes You Cringe The Most?

Reporter: "Hey Lou what are your thoughts about the trapezoid possibly being eliminated?"

Lou: "SWEEEEEET! I love playing the puck!"

Fans: *facepalm*

On August 17 and 18 prospects eligible for the 2012 NHL Entry Draft will play a game in Etobicoke Ontario as a part of the 2nd annual NHL Research, Development and Orientation Camp. New rule proposals will be tested at this event and there are a whole lot of them. After the jump are links to the list of proposed changes plus a poll on which of the most intriguing ones make/may not make you want to slaughter something innocent and beautiful. Yeah I know this camp is old news but I don't think we've discussed it much here.

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First of all...I like many of the ideas and think the tweaked OT rule is the best one and I think many would agree, hence the poll for the worst idea. Yes that one is still debatable I'm sure so I'll include it in the poll.

Secondly, here is the complete list of tweaks and schedule for the Camp.

Thirdly, I think James Mirtle of The Globe And Mail picked a fine list of the most impacting tweaks and I want to present the majority of them in a poll plus a few of my own, so you can not only gain further knowledge of what is being presented if you didn't click the first link above, but also vote for the worst idea. Check out the links and educate yourself before voting. Some of these proposed changes can and will affect your Vancouver Canucks for better or worse some day in the near future. Voice any further opinions in the comments section.

PS: I really think the size of goaltender equipment should be further evaluated. All these ideas for more offence out there and the easiest solution in my opinion is to further decrease the size of goalie gear. Don't tell the goalies that though.

Poll
Which proposed NHL rule change makes you cringe the most?
Line changes only permitted on-the-fly
54 votes
The team that commits an offside does not get to change lines
12 votes
The faceoff goes back into the offending team's zone that commits an offside
30 votes
No icing is permitted while shorthanded
89 votes
Overtime variation: 4 minutes of 4 on 4 followed by 3 minutes of 3 on 3.
19 votes
All penalties to be served in their entirety, regardless if a PP goal is scored
83 votes
No-touch icing
11 votes
Remove the trapezoid so goalies can play the puck wherever they want to
10 votes
5-man shootout after OT and using the same players if still tied
9 votes
Other. Explain your foolishness in the comments section :)
4 votes

321 votes | Poll has closed

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I voted No icing when shorthanded, not a fan of that. For some of the small things you have to do to be called for a penalty, this would be a killer.
I like the OT idea, anything that results in less shootouts is fine by me!

by andrew21nz on Aug 15, 2011 1:51 AM PDT reply actions  

I voted for the full 2:00 penalty concept. The reason why is because if you look at the inconsistency of the reffing in the playoffs….I just don’t want that to be magnified even further.

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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 15, 2011 1:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I voted for that as well. It could get really ugly otherwise.

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by Angy on Aug 15, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d rather it go back to the old OT system. 5 on 5 for 20 minutes then the game ends in a draw. Not a big fan of the sideshow skills competition. Save that for the all star game.

by marcness52 on Aug 15, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

When

was that system in use?

I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?

by Smoboy41 on Aug 15, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

according to wikipedia, it was pre 1983, but I can’t confirm this because I was dead.

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by SteveNux on Aug 15, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

No,

You were just unborn.

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Aug 15, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

is that like Undead?

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by SteveNux on Aug 15, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have

no recollection of this.

I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?

by Smoboy41 on Aug 15, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember the games ending in a draw

I thought you were older than dirt too.

Suck it up buttercup.

by stacie7 on Aug 15, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

but not 20 minute overtimes during the regular season. that was pre 83

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by SteveNux on Aug 15, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

nope ...

20 min OT was prior to WWII. they stopped to organize travel better during the war, and from then until the 80’s there was no OT in reg season. I was un-dead.

by Axeman21 on Aug 15, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh okay thanks

Is that info online anywhere?

This is the only info I could find:

For the 1983–84 season, the NHL introduced a regular season overtime period of five minutes, compared to the twenty minutes of regulation periods.

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by SteveNux on Aug 15, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh I found it here:

1921-22 – Goaltenders allowed to pass the puck forward up to their own blue line. Overtime limited to twenty minutes. Minor penalties changed from three minutes to two minutes.
1927-28 – To further encourage offense, forward passes allowed in defending and neutral zones and goaltenders pads reduced In width from 12 to 10 inches Game standardized at three twenty-minute periods of stop-time separated by ten-minute intermissions. Teams to change ends at the each period. Ten minutes of sudden-death overtime to be played if the score is tied after regulation time.

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by SteveNux on Aug 15, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

In any case, it doesn’t make sense to me to reduce any part of the game to a 4 on 4 or 3 on 3 or a breakaway competition if they never do that in the post season. I’d rather teams take away points for a draw then for losing. Rewarding a losing team is beyond reasonable. And if 5 on 5 OT takes too long and is uninteresting then just eliminate overtime from the regular season. If after regulation the game is tied just end the game. If a team really wants to go for the win then let them do it in the final minute of regulation.

by marcness52 on Aug 15, 2011 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

fair enough

i don’t mind the 4on 4 then 3 on3 option personally, but it does seem a little bit silly.

It’s fun for the kids though.

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by SteveNux on Aug 15, 2011 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

The '20s?

That was just a bit before my time.

I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?

by Smoboy41 on Aug 16, 2011 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are you sure??

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Aug 16, 2011 6:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Quiet, you!

I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?

by Smoboy41 on Aug 16, 2011 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Um.

Five minutes, I think.

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by Thursday on Aug 15, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Removing the trapezoid

The idea of Luie playing the puck where ever he feels like, is giving me a heart attack already. He’s shoddy enough as is with the rule, and has let in one too many goals on mistakes this way. No rule, and I can see him trying to play more aggressively ala TimmAH, only with worse results.

The PP one is frightful as well. A team with shoddy PK could easily lose a game in a 2 minute time span against a good PP.

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by spriteofice on Aug 15, 2011 6:12 AM PDT reply actions  

Same here

but replace Luie with DiPietro. Nothing is scarier then when he tries to play the puck.

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by Mark D on Aug 15, 2011 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think

A good puckhandling goalie is a lot more rare than a bad puckhandling goalie, especially nowadays.

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by Semi_Colon on Aug 15, 2011 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Same here
but replace Luie with DiPietro. Nothing is scarier then when he tries to play the puck.

fixed.

by marcness52 on Aug 15, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

how can you say for certain that his play is scary

when he never actually plays?

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by Canuckles on Aug 15, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

This

Lui playing the puck in the corner is terrifying. However, the no icing while shorthanded is ridiculous, a five minute major plus no icing could equal game over most nights.

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by thegreek on Aug 15, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or any 5on3 with no icing

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by Semi_Colon on Aug 15, 2011 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

With the players in the box for the full 2 minutes regardless of goals.

by marcness52 on Aug 15, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

fuck, could you imagine?? NO THANKS!!

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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 15, 2011 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't like the idea

Of only allowing line changes on the fly. That gets rid of a lot of the matchup game, and wouldn’t help drive up offense at all (if your 4th line guys get “stuck” in the offensive zone for example).

But I also agree with Sean – full 2:00 penalties wouldn’t be good at all, for the same reasons he states. Imagine if that SJ game 4 with all the 5 on 3s had full length for all the penalties?? We could have scored like 8 goals or something (probably wishful thinking, but not too far fetched the way things were going)

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by Semi_Colon on Aug 15, 2011 6:21 AM PDT reply actions  

I agree

the matchup game is interesting strategy… adding on-the-fly only would just turn it into a shitshow. Less strategy and more confusion does not equal better hockey.

Rule changes I would like to see are:
- 4 on 4 OT then 3 on 3 OT before the shootout during regular season games
- delay of game caused by hitting the puck over the glass OUT OF MIDAIR should not be an automatic 2 minute penalty.

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by SteveNux on Aug 15, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't changing only on the fly create a buttload of TMM penalties?

I just don’t see this working very well.

Suck it up buttercup.

by stacie7 on Aug 15, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also

Probably tons of confusion at whistles as people try to get off/on the ice before the play is blown dead. Just seems like there’s no real way to make that work. Nor do I want it to

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by Semi_Colon on Aug 15, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wouldn’t changing only on the fly create a buttload of TMM penalties?

No one wants a buttload of too many men parading to the box.

The only way it would probably work is if they ALSO instituted the “blue ice” area in front of the benches.

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by SteveNux on Aug 15, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

so...

More special zones on the ice?

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by Semi_Colon on Aug 15, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

What do you mean by "blue ice"

Would that be kind of like the trapezoid for the goalie? You can’t be touched in that area and if you are in the area you don’t count as a man on the ice?

Suck it up buttercup.

by stacie7 on Aug 15, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

something like that

I didn’t make it up… it was proposed by the NHL-board-of-silly-ideas

Personally, I think they should just keep that part of the game the way it is.

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by SteveNux on Aug 15, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

That would be such a clusterfuck

Somehow it would probably lead to more injuries too.

Suck it up buttercup.

by stacie7 on Aug 15, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

No one wants a buttload of too many men parading to the box.

Dirty!

by marcness52 on Aug 15, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

it was stacie7 who said it originally!

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by SteveNux on Aug 15, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

You purposely keep bringing up the SJ games huh? You hate me. :(

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by Angy on Aug 15, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry :(

That series was just less stressful than the others. And that 3 goal sequence was pretty awesome

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by Semi_Colon on Aug 15, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was highly stressful and it was not awesome! I would like to forget it but you won’t let me. :(

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by Angy on Aug 15, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Detroit almost comeback wasn’t stressful??

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by Semi_Colon on Aug 15, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was all stressful. You guys just had to go and ruin our party.

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by Angy on Aug 15, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well

Only one team’s party doesn’t get ruined…

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by Semi_Colon on Aug 15, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not an on ice rule change, but ...

One of the bigger complaints about the state of the game these days is the way OT / SO is dealt with. OT I personally don’t mind, hate the shoot out (as a way to determine winners – I LOVE watching them). Doesn’t anyone else think the simplest solution to this has always been 3 points for a reg win? It seems so basic and would encourage teams to open up a bit in close games. I know it’s been talked about for years, but never seems to get traction. I just don’t see any down side to it, and doing this would eliminate a lot of the OT / SO rule changes being discussed.

by Axeman21 on Aug 15, 2011 6:37 AM PDT reply actions  

I think the issue

Is that they don’t want ties. Even if you went to 3 pts/ regulation win (which I am in favour of too), you’ll still need to determine a winner if it goes beyond regulation so the shootout would probably still remain.

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by Semi_Colon on Aug 15, 2011 6:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

agreed

that they don’t want ties. But it strikes me that if there is more incentive to win in reg, then there would be fewer ties. And then when a game is tied, we could save time for everyone by flipping a coin. Or a referee.

by Axeman21 on Aug 15, 2011 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I think there would be more incentive to win in regulation if those wins were worth 3 points as well. Apparently the league doesn’t think so

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by Semi_Colon on Aug 15, 2011 7:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Every game

should be worth 3 points. 3 for a regulation win, 2 for a OT/SO win, with 1 going to the loser.

I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?

by Smoboy41 on Aug 15, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

agreed

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by SteveNux on Aug 15, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

You are preaching to the choir!

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by Semi_Colon on Aug 15, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Loser should never get any points.

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by Angy on Aug 15, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed. Should be winner take all.

by splnwezel on Aug 15, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

agreed

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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 15, 2011 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Three of those are real egregious to me

the no icing shorthanded
the full two minute penalty
no line changes except on the fly

The shorthanded no icing will just lead to injuries; pk’ers will be brutalized…especially in a 5 on 3…yikes. The two minute penalty has been discussed…if the reffing wasn’t so inconsistent this might make more sense…emphasis on ‘might’. Finally, the line changes only between whistles is flat out stupid. That one is CDC worthy.

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by Twitchy2010 on Aug 15, 2011 8:31 AM PDT reply actions  

Especially

If they did no shorthanded icing AND full two minutes? Everyone would have a million powerplay goals

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by Semi_Colon on Aug 15, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

*head scratch

why would 5 people think the proposed OT variation is bad?

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by Twitchy2010 on Aug 15, 2011 8:40 AM PDT reply actions  

It is still a gimmick.

3 on 3? That doesn’t really sound like hockey to me… If there is a penalty, would it be 3-on-2?

I find it the most cringe worthy because I actually think this rule is close to being implemented. The ultimate solution to breaking a tie in my opinion is 10 minutes of 4-on-4. This still resembles hockey, but is crazy wide open. 10 minutes of this is what I want to see! I love 4-on-4 hockey. 3-on-3 I can do without!

Most of the other rules suck and are worse, but I don’t think they are even close to happening.

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by T.Haynes on Aug 15, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

but it’s LESS of a gimmick than what we currently have.

6 players and 2 goalies is more like hockey than one player and one goalie

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by SteveNux on Aug 15, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah!

Increase the OT to 10 minutes. It’s not like the teams have to bolt to the airport to catch a commercial flight.

I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
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by Smoboy41 on Aug 15, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

And I mean its 3 extra minutes than what they have proposed…

I would scrap the shootout with this plan too, but that’s just me.

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by T.Haynes on Aug 15, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Think you might

have missed a whole boat load of sarcasm there T Haynes.

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by Section 312 on Aug 15, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

So he

Missed the boat, so to speak?

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by Semi_Colon on Aug 15, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh....

Where’d the boat go?

I just thought 10 minutes was only 3 minutes longer than 7. I can go back to my calculator tho… ;)

They take commercial flights? I don’t think so…

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by T.Haynes on Aug 15, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

It wasn't

my sarcasm.

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by Section 312 on Aug 15, 2011 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was

referring to the fact that teams all have charters, so it’s not as if the length of OT is governed by the airlines schedule.

I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
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by Smoboy41 on Aug 15, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Can a charter flight

just take off whenever it wants out of a major airport????

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by Section 312 on Aug 15, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don't think so

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by Semi_Colon on Aug 15, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Depends

on the airport. Some have curfews, some don’t.

I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
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by Smoboy41 on Aug 15, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

What I mean is

if the Canucks charter is scheduled to leave at 11 and they go into OT and can’t make that flight time can they just take off at 11:15 or 11:30? Or do they have to file a new flight plan and wait for a time that they are allowed to take off?

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by Section 312 on Aug 15, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Again

I think it would depend on the airport involved. JFK/ O’Hare would probably be a lot busier between, say 11 pm to 2 am, than the airports in Nashville or Columbus.

I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
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by Smoboy41 on Aug 15, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

When I have taken late flights out of O’Hare the place has been fairly dead. Unless flights were backed up due to weather conditions I would think later flights would be better.

Suck it up buttercup.

by stacie7 on Aug 15, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

For flights

within NA, you’re probably right.

I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?

by Smoboy41 on Aug 15, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s what I thought….

I assumed that the original poster responded. My bad.

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by T.Haynes on Aug 15, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

It also might not even solve the tie problem. 4on4 doesn’t mean goal for sure.

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by Semi_Colon on Aug 15, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I say

play til they score. Pussies.

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by Smoboy41 on Aug 15, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd love that too

But I don’t think it’s going to happen. Should just eliminate 1 guy from each side every 5 minutes until it’s just the goalies.

Then they drop a cage from the roof and the winner’s team wins

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by Semi_Colon on Aug 15, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec’d for goalie cage fights

by Shand on Aug 15, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Meh...

A tie isn’t so bad.

I bet fans will go home happy with 10 mins of 4-on-4 high paced hockey even if no goal is scored. I know I would still find it very exciting.

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by T.Haynes on Aug 15, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why would

2 people not like no touch icing? That would speed up the game, and cut down on injuries.

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by Smoboy41 on Aug 15, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Check below you

Section’s a curmudgeon, remember

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by Semi_Colon on Aug 15, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

First of all

I would love to see a list of injuries caused by touch icing. Say over the last 5 years. I bet the number is vastly lower than the pro no touch icing people lead us to believe. I bet you it is lower than injuries caused by a lot of other aspects of hockey. They love to trot out this danger thing. I just don’t see it. Plus it takes away from the flow of the game. Speed up the game? Wrong. It would in fact slow the game down. The clock stops as soon as the puck crosses the line. Currently the clock stops when it gets touched. So more time runs off the clock on the current system. In a no touch system you get more whistles and less time comes off the clock on each icing. So the game takes longer and has much less flow. PLUS it takes away the ability of a good player to….maybe….I don’t know….bank the puck from his own side of center off the end boards to an on rushing forward to create a scoring chance.

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by Section 312 on Aug 15, 2011 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

How often

does this race for the puck take place? I don’t think it’s as often as people think.

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by Smoboy41 on Aug 15, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Probably not that often

The best part about no touch icing? On the ones where a race is most likely, where the puck is slowly reaching the line, they wave icing off and players still race for it. So on the play most likely to cause a race and I suppose the most likely to lead to an injury, even though it RARELY happens, they still race for the icing. No touch icing doesn’t really do anything other than slow the game down and remove some of the flow.

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by Section 312 on Aug 15, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

And it takes away the Sedin’s pass from their own end and have Burrows or other Sedin chase down the puck.

by marcness52 on Aug 15, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

That section

is an imposter. We had our duel, and I won. I thoroughly enjoyed the Waldorf salad prior to that, thanks for asking. ;)

/nobody’s gonna get that reference.

I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?

by Smoboy41 on Aug 15, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I voted for the icing shorthanded one

It’s almost like they are saying that the PK units are too good so let’s hinder them more. You are already down a man. Why make it harder to kill that penalty? Makes no sense to me.

But to be honest I have a real problem with no touch icing. It’s a fucking stupid rule.

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by Section 312 on Aug 15, 2011 9:40 AM PDT reply actions  

Futbol hockey jerseys

Here

Canucks, here:

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by Semi_Colon on Aug 15, 2011 9:55 AM PDT reply actions  

Now that I see it

i’d never buy it. Too much rogers.

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by Twitchy2010 on Aug 15, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bah!

Where’s the flying V?

I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?

by Smoboy41 on Aug 15, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why

is there a hockey stick/skate logo on a football shirt? Why are there numbers on the sleeves of the alternate kit?

This is like one of those bad trips where all the knowledge in your brain melts into a confusing sludge.

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by Ghetto Defendant on Aug 15, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wait the Canucks are playing soccer now?

by marcness52 on Aug 15, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait...wait...I've got a joke for this!

With all that diving, they already have been! Heyo

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by Semi_Colon on Aug 15, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Pick a window

You’re going out!

I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?

by Smoboy41 on Aug 15, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha!

GO SHARKS!
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by Angy on Aug 15, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

HA

Watch out people might start quoting you again at SCH.

Suck it up buttercup.

by stacie7 on Aug 15, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Again?

They stopped?

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Aug 15, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK

so maybe it never stopped, but it isn’t as prevalent

Suck it up buttercup.

by stacie7 on Aug 15, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are losing your touch.

GO SHARKS!
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by Angy on Aug 15, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's a touch

I’d like to lose

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by Semi_Colon on Aug 15, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

that’s a rec Semi! haha

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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 15, 2011 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice one

I recced it, if only because I really don’t like Shanahan. At all.

I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
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by Smoboy41 on Aug 15, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Woulda looked terrific in a Canucks jersey several years ago. But he was a Ranger and a Wing = dead to me :)

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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 15, 2011 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Icing on the PK

I think the proposal is (and if it isn’t, it should be) that you have to get to your own blue line before you can clear the puck, not to the red line… I wouldn’t have any problems with that. Rather than just putting four guys out to collapse on their own net, block the puck, and then thwack at it blindly, coaches would need to have guys with skill and intelligence for a successful PK unit. That’s closer to what the game should be (and suits the Canucks down to the ground).

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by Ghetto Defendant on Aug 15, 2011 10:54 AM PDT reply actions  

That could make a bit more sense

But how often do you see guys successfully rush the puck out of their zone on the PK? A 5 on 3 would be next to impossible

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Aug 15, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm in favor

of anything that makes it easier or more likely for us to score on the powerplay.

encourages discipline.

by Wisp on Aug 15, 2011 12:02 PM PDT reply actions  

The top three that I don't like

Line changes only permitted on-the-fly
- I don’t see what the point behind this rule change would be other than to stop the matchup game, and I enjoy seeing coaches play chess with their lines.

No icing is permitted while shorthanded
- What a lame and artificial way to inflate PK numbers. If the shorthanded side has enough time to skate out of it’s one zone to cross the red line to negate icing, they’d be in counterattack mode, not dump in mode.

All penalties to be served in their entirety, regardless if a PP goal is scored
- I’m speechless they’d even consider this. Tired PK’ers getting more penalties will just result in the game being a parade to the box with special teams playing most of the game.

I’m glad the three I thought were bad are the the top three in the poll too.

by Exand on Aug 15, 2011 12:26 PM PDT reply actions  

You are speechless they'd even consider this?
All penalties to be served in their entirety, regardless if a PP goal is scored

It is my understanding that that’s how it used to be until the 80s and the Oilers juggernaut came along and scored on every power play.

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by Section 312 on Aug 15, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

no

that’s not true. it was coincidental minors they had to take out for the oilers.

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by Twitchy2010 on Aug 15, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

not the oilers

late 50’s Habs. they used to score two or three at a time … Richard / Beliveau / Moore / Harvey / Geoffrion / anybody.

by Axeman21 on Aug 15, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh okay

for some reason I thought it was more recent than that.

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by Section 312 on Aug 15, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

80's?

1956-57 – Player serving a minor penalty allowed to return to Ice when a goal is scored by opposing team.

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by Exand on Aug 15, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oops, premature post

I’m old, but I’m not THAT old to remember the 50’s…

by Exand on Aug 15, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

ICING

how about: when short handed, icing if within blue zone, no icing when dumped from neutral zone.

i’ve always been annoyed when defenders just slap the puck down ice, now at least they need to lift the puck out their zone or try to move outta their zone.

by Lingyis on Aug 15, 2011 5:10 PM PDT reply actions  

I am reading on Twitter

that Rick Rypien has passed away. I am really hoping it isn’t true.

JeffPlowman Jeff Plowman
R.I.P. Rick Rypien. Great guy. Great player. You will be missed!
JeffPlowman Jeff Plowman
@lissybluebell @TheFalconer hes a buddy of mine. I know his family well, grew up in the same town, saddly its true

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by Section 312 on Aug 15, 2011 6:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Mirtle tweeting it now
mirtle James Mirtle
Police confirm former Vancouver Canucks tough guy Rick Rypien has been found dead in his Alberta home. More to come.

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by Section 312 on Aug 15, 2011 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man

This sucks. Terrible news.

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by Semi_Colon on Aug 15, 2011 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was really

really hoping it wasn’t true.

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by Section 312 on Aug 15, 2011 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember

Who I think was him scoring a sweet goal in the first round of the playoffs in 2010. Am I remembering that right? He would sometimes pull some great stuff with the puck in addition to with his fists

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Aug 15, 2011 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am remembering that wrong for sure

I just realized

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Aug 15, 2011 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Obviously for me the Hal Gill

fight comes to mind first. But he could play. He wasn’t a goon. He had some skills with the puck and just also happened to be tough. He will be missed.

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by Section 312 on Aug 15, 2011 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Boarding the good ship Gill was pretty damn impressive. I’ll also remember that shellacking he gave Rich Clune in round 1 last year

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Aug 15, 2011 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

RIP Rypper.
You will be remembered

by Shand on Aug 15, 2011 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tragic. Sad, sad day.

by NS_Cix on Aug 15, 2011 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh no

I just heard this on the news. It’s like a punch in the stomach. :( So very sad.

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by Pseuccubus on Aug 15, 2011 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Until Sean or Yankee get something more permanent up

Please go here if you want to reminisce about and remember Rypien

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by Semi_Colon on Aug 15, 2011 6:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Tragic .So Sad. RIP buddy.

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by PensFanInDenver on Aug 15, 2011 6:52 PM PDT reply actions  

tragic

I am stunned with the news. Thoughts are with his family and friends right now. RIP Rick

by k_snowdrop on Aug 15, 2011 6:57 PM PDT reply actions  

OT: Anyone else having a hard time connecting to NM lately? It seems to be taking a long time to load the pages and sometimes doesn’t fully load until I refresh.

by marcness52 on Aug 15, 2011 8:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Overtime rules...

Bring back the 20 minute OT.

Squirrelz Gone Wyld!

by Thesocialmit on Aug 15, 2011 9:15 PM PDT reply actions  

your profile pic rules

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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 15, 2011 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Overtime rules…Bring back the 20 minute OT.

Overtime DOES rule! Fuck it – let’s make OT 30 minutes!

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by SteveNux on Aug 15, 2011 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

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