Weekend Thread: Parent or Sulzer?
by Yankee Canuck on Aug 13, 2011 1:27 AM PDT
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With the exception of Sturm and Nolan's PTO, most of Vancouver's offseason moves have been very quiet. Consider the newest ginger Alexander Sulzer, an inconsistent mobile puck-mover with 62 NHL games under his belt. With only one goal and seven points his stats aren't amazing, but to be fair Sulzer was buried in the Nashville's defensive factory; some were bummed to see he leave (check the comments). Assuming the Canucks start handing out defensive slots like free candy again - and assume a sniper has taken out Tanev/Rome/Alberts - is Sulzer a suitable third pairing option? Or deserving of a trail run manning the PP?
At the same time remember the injury-riddled Ryan Parent? If you blinked you missed his four games for Vancouver last year in which he looked painfully out of game shape. However if you ignore last season Parent does have 102 games played with Philadelphia (including their Cup run in 2010) where he averaged close to sixteen minutes a game. He certainly won't see PP time, but he remains a third line, stay-at-home option. Does he still have something left in the tank to impress Vigneault?
If cap concerns come up, Sulzer's $700,000 has an inside track to Parent's $925,000 (4th highest of the prospects behind Hodgson, Sweatt and Schroeder).
The gun's to your head: who are you more excited to see in camp? Also try and ignore the funny that both Sulzer and Parent were the 6/7 defenseman in Nashville last year before we tossed them SOB. Small world.
Some news and notes:
- A brief look at the new Canucks troops.
- Which Sedin will score more next season?
- Jeff Angus has four ideas for how the team should approach Keith Ballard this season.
- Hating on Carcillo, the PITB way.
- The Canucks sneak in once during the top ten most lopsided losses in Colorado history.
- The Cup is in Abbotsford this weekend. Everyone chill the fuck out!
- More finger-crossing for what Owen Nolan may bring to camp.
- Justin Bourne looks at how to pass the puck so your teammates won't hate you (take a guess what image leads the piece).
- If the Preds move Weber, should Suter be their next captain?
- Are players already trying to run away from Winnipeg?
- Via Kukla: Will the NHL ever have a female ref?
- OT: The darkest planet EVER has been discovered.
- OT: ...and you think your job stinks?
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Did Ballard stink last year?
Sure. But….
I agree with giving him more time. You want consistency, then he has to have some consistent minutes to get into some sort of rhythm. Put him with Edler, let him have some 2nd unit PP time. Sink or swim this season for Mr Ballard.
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Bill Sweatt’s brother Lee has informed the Senators he is retiring from hockey per his agent @nortonsports. #wolves #canucks #nhl
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 12, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
seems so...
…dunno
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by Twitchy2010 on Aug 12, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
from the agent
NortonSports Scott Norton
Client Lee “I don’t” Sweatt has notified the #Senators that he is retiring from #hockey to pursue outside biz interests.
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by Twitchy2010 on Aug 12, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
that’s crazy…but i hope the business is sweatty productions no matter what it does
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 12, 2011 3:16 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
on PD now...
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by Twitchy2010 on Aug 12, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
If he couldn't have us
He didn’t want anyone else!
That’s the story I’m going to stick to. What a weird saga
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Now I know why Billy was being so coy when asked him about his bro. And now we know why he wasn’t with the team during the Run or reporting to the Moose. It all finally makes sense
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 13, 2011 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Interesting...
but it doesn’t explain why he signed a contract with the Sens though.
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by Big Blue Whale on Aug 14, 2011 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
well I’m sure Billy knew Lee was contemplating retirement and I’m sure the Canucks knew too
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 15, 2011 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions
BTW
new tag line is awesome…
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by Twitchy2010 on Aug 12, 2011 1:53 PM PDT reply actions 5 recs
Yankee, you rule
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 13, 2011 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Just noticed it
evil smile ensued.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 13, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Darkest planet ever?
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Riddick!!!!!
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by Section 312 on Aug 12, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Aug 13, 2011 3:14 AM PDT up reply actions
have you guys seen this?
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this one is also good
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now this one is amazing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58-9Ae9cvDI
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oh my god
those ARE amazing!
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by puppetmasterp on Aug 13, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Love the Heiney commercials!
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 14, 2011 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Nice to see
people keeping on topic today.
snicker
I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?
by Smoboy41 on Aug 12, 2011 2:41 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I tried
To be fair, I was asking about two no name defensemen.
And for the record, I’m in camp Sulzer simply because he’s a ginger.
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 12, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I try never to be in any
German/Austrian sounding camp.
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by Section 312 on Aug 12, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
great…you just made grabner sob quiety.
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 12, 2011 3:17 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
I want Parent to make the cut. I don’t know why. Maybe just his experience. Wasn’t he Pronger’s D partner?
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 13, 2011 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions
so who gets cut in his place?
Tanev?
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notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
No I mean I just want Parent to be the 8th guy ahead of Sulzer if someone goes down to injury.
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 13, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh wait, he has a one way contract so he’d have to clear waivers
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 13, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
two way
are meaningless in terms of waivers. They are merely a means of paying players less when they are in the AHL vs the NHL
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notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
And for the record, I’m in camp Sulzer simply because he’s a ginger.
Go Ginge!
By the way, it’s “Team Sulzer”. Didn’t you learn anything from Twilight?
a ginger ball hockey player... no wonder I'm a Canucks fan
I learned to never watch those movies…does that count?
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 12, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Oh yes
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
This is
one instance when I envy single guys. Never, ever having to sit through a chick flick. The things I do to maintain marital harmony.
I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?
by Smoboy41 on Aug 12, 2011 5:02 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
It’s cool because I envy married guys when…wait nevermind. ;)
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 12, 2011 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
dude
movies a pretty traditional date thing to do!
We just have other motives than marital harmony, you know?
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If sitting
through an excruciating rom/com is what you single guys do to get a little romance, I weep for you. Buy her a bottle of wine.
I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?
its not the only thing
but at least some rom/coms think of the guys in the story a little.
I never ever ever had to sit through a Twilight…
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just take the ladies to see that new Conan the Barbarian movie. you’ll like the action, she’ll like the superhot main character :)
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I liked him in Game of Thrones :P
And for the record, I hate rom/coms. Never seen Twilight either. And I plan on keeping it that way.
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I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
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by Smoboy41 on Aug 13, 2011 10:12 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Im not that young Smo
I am rapidly approaching 30
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or team "Alka Sulzer"
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notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
FTR
I’m on Team Sulzer, Alka Sulzer, Camp Selzer…Team Ginger
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Terrible Article
On which Sedin will score more. I guess everyone is a statistician now-a-days!
.313/.400/.565
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 12, 2011 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Team Sulzer...
… ’cos cap hit is king.
Obviously, at least one of the top four will get injured this season, because they are Canucks defencemen. Obviously, Sami Salo will get injured this season, because he is Sami Salo. Even with two of those guys out, we can push up Tanev and have Rome and Alberts as the third pairing. And if one of those guys is out as well… then it depends whether we need an offensive or a defensive d-man to fill out the numbers. It’s more likely (Salo) that we’ll be needing the former, which means Sulzer.
Honestly, though, I’m more excited to see how Yann Sauve can develop this season. Hopefully he’s improved his awareness and gap control, particularly when crossing the road.
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by Ghetto Defendant on Aug 12, 2011 7:22 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
oh hai guys lee sweatt retired
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Aug 12, 2011 7:39 PM PDT reply actions
what the fuck?
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 13, 2011 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions
not even
gonna post the lee sweatt pictures
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Aug 12, 2011 8:17 PM PDT reply actions
The Cup is in Abby? Woo! I’m going to see it!
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and then I’m gonna riot like it’s 2011
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 13, 2011 12:37 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
not like its 1994?
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notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
No, 1994 was too insane. I just want to flip and burn a smart car, not get hit in the head with a rubber bullet :)
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 13, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Big deal
It was in Maple Ridge, again.
/stifles yawn.
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by Smoboy41 on Aug 13, 2011 10:14 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
haha, yeah well the Cup never comes to Smithers
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 14, 2011 12:41 AM PDT up reply actions
it's like Sweatt decided
he’ll never have another moment in his career where he scores a game winning goal while Rinne, Weber, and Suter all on the ice at the same time, so he might as well quit while he’s ahead.
haha, yeah right. I am surprised at his decision.
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 13, 2011 12:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I can see his point
In a sense. If he was only going to make X amount of dollars playing hockey, and even though he loves it, if the business opportunity is going to be more lucrative…well…thats just some pragmatic thinking right there.
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Well, you may be right, OR Sweatt is quitting before his hockey potential is reached. I don’t know. It’s not like he wasn’t going to get a chance in Ottawa
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 13, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Both.
Ryan Parent is younger and has more upside than Andrew Alberts, while Sulzer brings a much-needed depth offensive ability.
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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Aug 13, 2011 9:30 AM PDT reply actions
You forgot
Chris Tanev in your pairings, he will be given every opportunity to make the team.
Ryan Kesler for MVP
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Chris Tanev in your pairings, hewill be given every opportunity to makehas made the team.
Heheh
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 13, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Tanev is
probably Salo’s heir.I think he get a lot of opportunity and NHL experience this season to prepare him for the next one.
yeah I think he’s a shoe-in..pretty much. Such excellent composure already. The guys at RIT were right about him
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 14, 2011 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions
This is true.
But we have to take into account the possibility of sophomore regression.
Plus, Tanev is young and is not far removed from tier II junior hockey, and even less so from college hockey with a university that has never before produced an NHL player.
A year dominating the AHL wouldn’t be such a bad thing for him.BUT if he plays anywhere near the way he did in the play-offs, reunite him with Ballard.
That leaves Rome-Alberts as the problem alternates, leaving no room whatsoever for Parent or Sulzer in the NHL, until injuries force the issue. I’d still take them over Aaron and Andrew though, I just love that their younger with more upside. That being said Rome ans Alberts for the most part of brought depth and steady play, which is all you can ask from them.
the Chicago Wolves look to have quite the defense next season though….
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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Aug 13, 2011 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions
GMC
The days of Tanev even being mentioned with the AHL are behind us, I hope. He might be a victim of the numbers game again, but honestly, the ceiling on the Kid is pretty high…
But a “sophmore jinx”? Sorry, no. Thats only a thing when it happens that a player does not have as good a year. Then its the perfect excuse ( see everyone, a sophomore jinx!) A lot of it is how the other team now knows who you are. No sneaking up on guys.
But with Tanev, they already do. He played enough in the regular season and the playoffs for that.
The kid is so highly thought of because he is cool and calm. That is not likely to change, because it is who he is. Watch the guy in interviews, its quite noticeable.
In Game 7, albeit a game when his team lost, I do not remember one time ( and Boston targeted the kid, hitting him and getting in on his corner on dump ins. He still took hits to make plays, and made good first passes ) where he was overwhelmed.
As a matter of fact, I think you see him get more of a role than he had last year.
I know we have numbers back there, and he will have to beat several guys out for regular time, but if there is one guy I am impressed with, its him.
Regardless of being a Markam Waxer or a RIT Tiger. Good players are just good players, you know?
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amen
the kid is a natural
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 14, 2011 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't disagree with you.
But I never said sophomore ‘jinx’, I used the word ‘regression’. There’s nothing mysterious or supernatural about it. Often a player struggles in his second season, either because he takes his foot off the pedal a bit, figuring he’s made it, or because opponents have read the book on him.
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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Aug 14, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
i think it's
instead of trying to prove yourself, you are learning your role… and that slight adjustment in mentality can be noticeable in this high of level… not sure that it would happen with tanev though… he seems to composed.
if he can be moved between AHL and NHL, I say he starts on the farm… maybe not what’s best for him, but it’s whats best for the team… why risk losing a guy on waivers when there’s a waiver free option available
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There is still...
…a strong argument for having him dominate in the AHL, bringing his offense that he had in junior to the pro level. I don’t see him getting a chance to run the power play in Vancouver, for instance; but he could certainly get that into his game again with the Wolves. Up with the Canucks, he was relied on more as a steady hand than a leader, and I wouldn’t mind his taking that role before taking a permanent place at the NHL level.
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Totally disagree
That he cannot do that in the NHL.
He can, without going down. There is nothing to push him in the AHL. Offense in a player is not something that just goes away. He has that talent.
Let me ask, why not on the PP? Is Hoff coming back? That spot is right there, and Ballard and Tanev are the guys that will get the longest look to join Bieksa, Edler, and Salo on the points…
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Because four point men won’t be used. There simply isn’t enough ice time on the big club, especially on special teams. Compare that with the role he would play on the Wolves, especially given the talent in Vancouver. He won’t be the #1 guy here; he will be in Chicago.
Flying that Nerd Flag high!
Pretty bold prediction!
I don’t think it is as much of a certainty of him being a Wolf as you do, I guess. I don’t understand why 4 point men wont be used, as that is the norm in like 90% of the NHL teams. Sammy may get some time there too, I guess it what you are saying.
There is plenty of ice time if he takes it. All Tanev has done is impress everyone in the NHL, and everyone in our management as well.
We do have plenty of talent in the NHL level, and I would be the last to say he would NOT go down, because the numbers say there is a definite possibility. But a right handed defender that can do all he has shown he can ( at the mostest elitest level you can play, the Finals ), he is more than just the #1 in the AHL.
Honestly, the guy is 21, and was listed at 6’2 and 185 last year. If he has added on a few pounds, I would think that he is going to make it very hard on the vets to keep their ice time.
The thing is, I honestly believe that Tanev has the potential to be a #1. The last guy that came into the NHL with such a freakish calm back there was Lidstrom. I am not saying the kid is going to be the Perfect Human. But he has the potential to attain those heights.
In my opinion, you keep that level of talent at the NHL level, not the AHL one.
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Very few guys
Develop to be #1 Dmen in the NHL. Tanev has the potential to be pretty good, but I think comparing him to Lidstrom is stretching it a bit.
If he has improved over the offseason and makes a good impression at camp I’d love to see him stay with the club (although I feel that’s a bit hard with all the 1 way Dman contracts we have), but he would pretty well only be on the bottom pair.
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I knew someone would do that...
I did not compare him to Lidstrom, and specifically said I was not. Just that he has something in common with him. So, stretching very little mon frere!
I am of a differing opinion on guys developing into a #1. Even the best did not start out as the #1. They earned it with their talents.
Tanev shows he has the tools.He can be a #1. I was talking about his potential though. Obviously, I don’t think he will step into the #1 spot next year.
It was mainly in response to Thurs though. The plain old truth is that when you have a very good right hander, you have something rare. It makes for better opportunities, especially on the PP where you can have both shooters with better angles, amongst other things.
Thats the ceiling I can see for the young man. Because he already has the most important part, the calm to not get affected by the pressure as he makes the good first pass. They can teach him a lot, but when you think of some of the best D’men ( like Lidstrom, Neidermayer, etc ), that calm was a hallmark of their game.
Does not mean I am comparing him to them at this point in his career, or even at his zenith. Just that he has a trait that some of the very best have. IF he can attain his potential, well, then I’ll compare him to the Perfect Human!
;-)
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I don’t know where you got this
I don’t think it is as much of a certainty of him being a Wolf as you do, I guess.from. I hardly think it’s a certainty he’ll be in the AHL to start the season! Here is what I said:
There is a strong argument for having him dominate in the AHL, bringing his offense that he had in junior to the pro level.And I’ll stand by that. There is a LOT to “push him at the AHL level”, and that includes learning how to run a blue line and be a #1 defenseman – something he’s not going to have the chance to do here in the coming season.
Flying that Nerd Flag high!
Sens fan here.
Shocked about Sweatt retiring, we thought hewould start in the AHL and be a call-up in case on injuries. What exactly was his injury that kept him out for so long, if you don’t mind telling me. I heard somewhere it was blocking a Shea Weber slap-shot, not sure if that’s the real answer though.
If Charlie Sheen played for the Leafs, the Leafs would be #winning. If LeBron James played for the Cavs, oh wait, he already did that.
Sweatt
did, indeed, have a broken foot.
I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?
by Smoboy41 on Aug 13, 2011 12:36 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
yep, a Weber slapper it was.
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 14, 2011 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure that was it. Pretty sur suffered the injury
In that Nashville game where he scored the game winner; not sure if it was from weber or someone else. If I remember right he played a few more games before it being formally announced. Heard somewhere that the retirement was not related to the foot injury though, so who knows.
by RogerFenway on Aug 13, 2011 3:02 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Shame either way though.
His GWG was sick and he was fun to watch even if there wasn’t going to be an opportunity for him here; I think the guy could’ve made waves somewhere else, must be some business opportunity.
by RogerFenway on Aug 13, 2011 3:05 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Here you go
Flash back to late January when Sweatt’s smile was glowing in the Canucks post-game locker-room. He was seen then gripping the puck he had just snapped by Pekka Rinne. It was his first-ever goal in his firstever game and the reaction from his teammates was electric.
They were chanting “Rudy! Rudy!” as the barrel-chested defenceman coasted into the dressing room after scoring a goal which won the Canucks a game against the Nashville Predators.
It was a nod to Sweatt’s resemblance to the lead character in the movie of the same name and to the long odds both overcame to have one of those feel-good moments which are difficult to ever forget
“It was an amazing moment when I scored. It was absolutely incredible,” he said, not long after he signed a two-year, two-way deal with the Ottawa Senators this month.
“I was just thinking, ’Don’t screw up defensively’ and I end up scoring a goal that became the game winner.
“Unreal.”
So was what happened next.
“On my very next shift, Shea Weber took a slap shot and I blocked it with my foot. I finished the game but I could barely walk,” Sweatt said.
“Everyone knows he has basically the hardest shot in the league. What are the chances?”
The X-rays showed severe bruising hours later, but no break. It’s possible the foot was too swollen to detect a fracture. Sweatt rested his injured during the all-star break and was well enough to play two more games before the Canucks were set to send him down to the AHL.
But the morning before he was to be on a plane headed for Manitoba, he blocked another shot in practice with the Canucks and the foot was shattered. So was his season.
“It was so frustrating,” he said. "To not be able to play through the playoffs on that captivating run, when, I think [because of injuries to Vancouver’s defence], I could have got some more opportunities to play.
“It just never really healed properly and it was one of the most frustrating things I’ve gone through. All I wanted to do was play again. But that bone took a very, very long time to heal.”
In fact, it took until the Canucks final week of the post-season, in mid-June, before Sweatt was even able to skate again.
During the preceding four months, he’d fly regularly into Vancouver from his home base in Colorado to check in with the Canucks but the news continued to be negative.
http://www.theprovince.com/sports/Here+what+happened+Sweatt/5165866/story.html
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 13, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I was just about to quote the same thing :)
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 14, 2011 12:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Here's the thing
Ryan Parent must go through re-entry waivers to be called up any time DURING the season. So if he’s on the roster at the beginning of the season, all is fine. We can send him back down later if need be, but then he must pass regular waivers, and the worst that could happen is we lose him for nothing. However, if we try to call him during the season, then the other teams have a chance to pick him off re-entry waivers, which would result in not only us losing him, but having to be responsible for half his cap-hit! So that’s a huge risk and Gilman aint into that shit. So if he don’t make the roster at the beginning of the season, you can pretty much kiss goodbye the idea of Ryan Parent as a Canuck (except maybe after the trading deadline or in the playoffs when I’m not sure about how these rules apply).
Sulzer, meanwhile, because his AHL salary is $105,000, does not need to pass re-entries, so only has to pass regular waivers on the way down. So only risk with him is losing him if we send him back down.
by Beantown Canuck on Aug 14, 2011 9:03 AM PDT reply actions
Yup
Parent had the same problem last year.
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 14, 2011 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Has Sulzer played enough games in the last year to even qualify for waivers?
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
it's not just about number of games for regular waivers
it’s a combo of age, age you signed your first contract, and number of games
and bottom line is, he’s not exempt for regular waivers. This is designed to give veteran players the greatest chance of having a roster spot in the NHL (if a team picks him up, they have to put him on their active roster).
by Beantown Canuck on Aug 14, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
I knew a lawyer
Would be able to get to the bottom of it.
I looked through those rules a bunch last year but forgot everything
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By the way
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
oh booy
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I seriously hope he’s okay and can start the season. Some people may hate him for being whiny or whatever, but he’s still the best fucking player in the game(IMO) and a concussion that bad wouldn’t be good for him or the NHL. Also, 2014
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ot...
this is kinda creepy… shaq and his girl…
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how do the mechanics of
um… well.. you know… how does that work?
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notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
She gets to waste his money
he gets to waste her……well…you know.
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by Section 312 on Aug 15, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
time? Shoes? gas?
what?
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by Twitchy2010 on Aug 15, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
why do u think
she has that dazed look on her face, and he looks angry and unsatisfied?
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The most
egregious part of that pic is the jean shorts. Seriously Fu? Jean shorts. And a black tank top. You have 10s of millions of dollars. Stop being a redneck.
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by Section 312 on Aug 15, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I may be wrong
but I bet he could afford to have clothes custom made. I hear he has some money lying around.
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by Section 312 on Aug 15, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
haha Canuckles.
Piece of cake…in so many ways
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 16, 2011 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Shaq looks like he's dating an 8 year old
no pedo tho
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notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
Only because he’s a bajillion feet tall
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by Semi_Colon on Aug 15, 2011 3:13 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Good
lord.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Aug 15, 2011 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions
no wear and tear on her knees though.
Too far?
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 16, 2011 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
you just said
what everyone else was thinking
a ginger ball hockey player... no wonder I'm a Canucks fan
that’s pretty damn far…..
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I was referring to her playing volleyball
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 18, 2011 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
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