Canucks Acquire Rights Of Mike Duco
by Sean Zandberg on Jul 9, 2011 12:38 PM PDT
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PrintThe Canucks acquired the 24 -year-old left winger's rights from the Florida Panthers in exchange for the rights to Sergei Shirokov, who last I checked returned to Russia. Count Duco is listed as 5'10" and 194 pounds. An enforcer at the NHL level. The Toronto native has only played in 12 NHL games, recording 0 points and 60 penalty minutes. His offence was more apparent for the AHL Rochester Americans last season where he scored 20 goals and 31 points in 67 games while also accumulating 126 PIMs and a -16 rating. Put the gun down, Cam.
-Duco's career stats at Hockey Database.
-Duco's fight cards at Hockeyfights.com.
-Duco's profile at Hockey's Future. His role thus far in the NHL has been as an enforcer which would merit situational call-ups. But he has some scoring ability and could be a serviceable fourth line, energy forward in the future.
Edit: Watch what you Tweet, Duco. Heh.
A few Duco vids:
Duco vs Mike Brown:
Controversial?
Took a while to find a good Duco fight. He's not a large individual but he roughs it up anyway:
So...Tanner Glass 2?
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I wonder
If all this janssen talk and signing of ahl hopefuls makes anyone appreciate why I said Edmonton signing hordi was not a bad signing for them. It’s funny to me that some of the same people who were trying to explain to me why hordi shouldn’t even play in the NHL are now explaining why we should sign these guys.
by Canuckelhead on Jul 9, 2011 1:02 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
One really has something to do with the other? Is that what you are saying?
This guy looks primarily like a fighter, but who knows? Maybe he has some skill. Why folks were saying Hordy was a bad signing is he is a staged fighter kind of guy. Thats why he laid out the threats to Calgary and Van right away.
Thats job security. The problem most ( I, at least ) have with Hordy is his utter lack of hands, skating skills, and grasp of defensive zone coverage. He can hit, and fight. The rest of the game is foreign to him.
At least Mancari, for instance, has huge power forward upside. Hordy was never a point per game AHL player.
You may be right about some teams though. Look at the Ducks. Did they really need another fighter in JF Jacques? The Hawks got a psycho in Carcillo, and Mayers.
To me its a step back, and ignores the point that I think you might have missed (from me anyhow ) in the previous thread. Guys that can also play are more important than guys like Hordy, that cannot.
I want us to sign guys with some jam AND hockey skills. I don’t know about this guy, but the other two ( Mancari And Pinizzotto ) look to have some skill to bring as well.
Janssen might be needed to attend to the violence, he might not. But if the Canucks sign a heavy, lets hope he can play. Jannsen is no better than Hordy there, but from what I remember of him in Blues games, he displays more awareness of a team concept in his own end, at least!
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I think I made it clear
In the last thread that I have no interest in the Canucks acquiring a fighter so Im not sure why you think I missed a point. Mancari is not a fighter and the only reason you think janssen is a better player than hordi is because he hasn’t been a Canuck yet. I have always said I have no interest in the Canucks signing hordi just curious why you think this guy or janssen are better than him?
by Canuckelhead on Jul 9, 2011 1:53 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
CH,
I said I think Janssen is a better player because in my estimation, he is. They both have the stats of a fighter.
Its funny, you keep hopping back and forth on the fighter thing. You seem to have a selective memory as well. Without taking the time to go through all your comments, you argued the very thing, that the Canucks need a fighter because teams like the Oilers etc hired “guns” like Hordy.
I think its just semantics, so whatever. Mancari says himself that he “likes to stand up for his guys”, though he did only have 4 fights in the last 2 years. Which is my point. I want guys that can fight when it comes up, and play when it does not. He, and Pinizzotto to a lesser degree, are probably Chicago bopund, but if the bigger one ( Mancari) can stick, I am OK with that instead of a Janssen guy.
But, if GMMG feels he needs a more established super heavy to deal with the Hordy, Jacques, Mayers etc signings, I would rather it be a guy that, to me, from what I remember of the times the Canucks playing the Blues the past 3 years, is the type that can at least be responsible in his own end. The production ( Janssen had a goal and 3 assists last year! )…well…thats why it would be nice if a guy with a better than point per game hands in the AHL…like Mancari, step up and take that spot.
To sum up. Mancari on potential and hands that would be a great addition to the 4th line. Janssen if MG feels it needed to indulge in the bloodsport desire that seems to have gripped the NHL GMs this offseason…I trust him to pick a guy that can play a little.
Looking at the stats, Hordy is actually the better plus/minus and (admittedly for each) pitiful points production. But I remember the Hordy of the stupid penalty, the wrong time to try and ply his trade, and his always being a step behind in his own end.
Janssen looked noticeable on the forecheck, hit at the right time, and while he of course takes penalties too, in the games we played them, I just remember a guy hard to play against in both ends. I would hope, if the rumours are true, that MG saw something similar.
No offense to your liking what Hordy brings, he just, to me at least, is not a very smart hockey player. Fantastic teammate, from all accounts. Wonderful human being. But his “hockey sense” is where he falls flat too much for me.
Mind you, you may be right. With that kind of player, there is going to be an occasion where you scream “WTF” at the screen. But hopefully CJ would elicit that less than DH did for me when he was here.
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Just so it's clear
I NEVER said the canucks needed a fighter. At all. I came to hordi’s defense as a player who has proven he has value in the NHL not as a player the Canucks should acquire and I certainly never said the Canucks needed to acquire a player to fight him. I’m also the one that pointed out hordis comments were probably tongue in cheek. As for janssen looking good for the blues, I’m not sure how you saw anything in the four minutes he averaged for that less than deep team but his stats point to him being a player who has never, not once, been a player who is a plus player in pro hockey.
by Canuckelhead on Jul 9, 2011 2:31 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
"Put the gun down, Cam."
Why? It’s not like I care whether the Chicago Wolves have a fighter or not. That’s their prerogative.
by camcharron on Jul 9, 2011 1:05 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Very, very good.
Daniel Sedin on Mike Milbury: "He made a bad comment about us, calling us women. I don’t know how he looks at women. I would be pretty mad if I was a woman."
by Tink for Nucks on Jul 9, 2011 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh he’ll wear a Canucks jersey. Oh yes he will
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by Sean Zandberg on Jul 9, 2011 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
In
the preseason.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 10, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Averging 5 PIMs per NHL game?
Ugh.
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Averages 8 minutes per game… comparable to what Hodgeson, Bolduc and Oreskovich all got and solid for a 4th liner.
If he can carry over his success in the AHL to the NHL then he seems like the kind of fighter you need to have in today’s game… one who can actually bring something to the table beyond just fighting.
by BobbyOrrsBastard on Jul 9, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
If he can carry over his success in the AHL to the NHL
The keyword being if. All he’s done in the NHL is fight. This year he played 2 games, and had 2 fights. In the AHL this year he had 12 fights.
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
I’m aware… he also put up 20 goals. If he scores at 30-50% that rate in the NHL and can be reliable for 8-10 minutes a night then he is a useful player.
by BobbyOrrsBastard on Jul 9, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
great point.
I would worry about this kind of guy being expected to fight guys like the other “enforcers”, but there is always a place for guys with a little skill that are assholes to play against.
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I mean Shirokov probably wasn’t going to be signed by us so I guess getting something for him isn’t bad but it may as well have been nothing, imo.
Not only that
but in no way is Shirokov, at this point and maybe never, good enough consistently to be a contributor on an NHL team.
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by Section 312 on Jul 11, 2011 5:43 AM PDT up reply actions
An enforcer?
At that size? Hardly.
I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?
by Smoboy41 on Jul 9, 2011 1:42 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
At that size
Rick Rypien kicked 6’7" guys’ ( plural!) asses! The fights in the Youtubes attached seem to be guys more his size. Hey, he could still kick Marchand’s ass, or the other “Avery” types.
Truculence seems to be in this year.
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We had players that could kick Marchands ass in the lineup so I don’t know that’s the issue.
by Canuckelhead on Jul 9, 2011 3:43 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Ummm
no offense to you, but do you think maybe I could voice an opinion on anything without you finding fault or whatever?
I was responding to Smo on size, not talking about who was in the lineup in the Finals!
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That depends
Are you going to keep saying stuff I take issue with?
I keed, I keed. Point taken. Sorry if it feels like all I do is disagree with you. For the record I agree with your opinions sometimes too.
by Canuckelhead on Jul 9, 2011 9:35 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Valabik and Gill
Big guys, but not fighters. Good ones, anyway.
I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?
by Smoboy41 on Jul 9, 2011 6:31 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
You need size?
Get Gillis to give Bowman a call. HAWKS need some salmon for the team BBQ.For 257 pounds of Salmon we’ll send you 257 lbs of enforcer.
He's versatile too....
Equally inept at forward or defense.
by Tokyo Ross on Jul 9, 2011 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
haha
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by Sean Zandberg on Jul 9, 2011 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
hey now, dude and his monkey arms got skills - I mean SB wants to give him more minutes!
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by justforkicks on Jul 11, 2011 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Well shit
NOW how are my Sharks ever going to win a series against you guys? :)
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Sadly,
for you, they won’t. ;)
I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?
by Smoboy41 on Jul 9, 2011 6:32 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Well Duco is undoubtedly the missing piece for you guys
"You can't stop him, you can only hope to contain Kent Huskins!" - Randy Hahn 2/13/11
WE'RE GOING
ALL THE WAY, BOYS! JUST CLIMB ON MIKEY’S BACK HERE!
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 9, 2011 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Hahaha
Also I love your sig. Didn’t Louis CK say that on Kimmel? I love Louie
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He did
Louis CK is fucking gold, through and through.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 10, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
He is really great
I should also mention that we found an answer to your Mikey Duco
Nothing official from the Sharks yet, but reliable outside sources say they’ve signed 32-year-old center Ben Guite, last seen in the NHL with Nashville for six games in the 2009-10 season. Guite also wore an Avalanche jersey for 169 games over three seasons, but his is reportedly a two-way contract and it’s a safe bet that he’s considered primarily as veteran depth for Worcester, though anything is always possible. UPDATE: Sharks now confirming Guite contract.…So basically you’re fucked.
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by pooponastick on Jul 10, 2011 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions
ugh slow as fuck goons
yawn
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 11, 2011 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Newsflash
Mike Duco is approximately 2000th on the depth chart
by Canuckk on Jul 9, 2011 7:24 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
+1
Rec this people.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 9, 2011 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I can’t. He’s gonna become an AV favorite.
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by Sean Zandberg on Jul 9, 2011 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
AV favorites give Horton headaches
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 10, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Anyone in Vancouver
going to see Dan Mangan tonight in Stanley Park?
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 10, 2011 12:40 PM PDT reply actions
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so I stopped by a brewery todayand met some guys from calgary…had a great conversation but they could not hide their disdain for the Canucks…after some rounds I got one to say “go Canucks because I like what you said”
morale of the story: booze solves all wounds. I think.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jul 10, 2011 4:19 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
You guys may have already discussed this but how did Burke get Franson and Lombardi for basically just Lebda? I don’t see the upside for the Preds on this one at all.
cleared cap space basically
Lombardi’s been concussed for almost a year so he’s a big question mark making big money, and Franson’s likely due for a big pay raise next season. Still a stupid trade I think but I see the reasoning behind it.
Also
Lombardi’s contract wasn’t insured because of his concussion history, which is why they would have had to pay him even if he didn’t play.
It was basically Franson for Lebda + 7M in cash
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Yep
Probably just a salary dump.
Rogers Arena - the Sugarbowl!
by Big Blue Whale on Jul 10, 2011 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Not if your team/management/owners don’t want to fork over that 7M.
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by Vancouverguy on Jul 11, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Lebda hates hockey
and seeks to destroy it from the inside.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 11, 2011 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Salary dump
and Burkie is a fucking magician.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 11, 2011 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Mike Duco
Thinks very highly of the Canucks’ players!
From PITB
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
by Semi_Colon on Jul 10, 2011 9:01 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
*Snickers*
Lol! Oh the ironies of life, always worth a good laugh.
looks like he
shitcanned his twitter account. Way to go PiTB, you scared a player off of twitter.
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by Twitchy2010 on Jul 12, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
wait never mind
it was my twitter/browser/pc. Stupid microsoft crap.
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by Twitchy2010 on Jul 12, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Tis a poor
craftsman who blames his tools.
I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?
by Smoboy41 on Jul 12, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Recd
for using my favourite expression ever.
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by Section 312 on Jul 12, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks
now play me some Dwight Yoakum.
I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?
I've got
Ocean Front Property coming up. Rather play George than Dwight.
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by Section 312 on Jul 12, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
/vomit
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by Twitchy2010 on Jul 12, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
The more I look at Duco
The more there is to like. I’ll have a post about him on Canucks Army tomorrow morning.
/working for the competition, too
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