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Who Is Mark Mancari?

That was was went through my mind when I heard the Canucks had signed him to a 1-year, $525,000 1-way deal on July 1st. I know I'm not the only one. So now that the free agency madness has died down I figured I would do some digging to learn more about this big right winger. Unfortunately I had to drill pretty deep to find any water, so I'll share with you what I found.

-6'4" 225 pounds. 26 years old. Born in London Ontario.

-Drafted in the 7th round (207th overall) by the Buffalo Sabres in 2004.

-Back then, Hockey's Future said this about him: Mancari has prototype size, but is not a strong skater.  While his effort and toughness are to be respected, the converted defenseman needs to take strides in order to be an NHL contributor on offense.  If his offensive game does not continue to develop, there may still be a role for him as an NHL tough guy, given his size and strength.

"Converted defenceman"..well then we know he fits into the Canucks' scheme as a 2-way player. Not a bad thing.

-Mancari's AHL stats with the Rochester Americans and Portland Pirates are impressive. He averages about a point per game there. Mancari is a beast at the AHL level. He was an alternate captain with the Pirates. He put up a butt load of points. He apparently still holds the AHL record for the hardest recorded shot, which was 102.8 mph at the AHL Skills Competition in 2008. Last season he was 2nd on the Pirates' list in their 3 stars accomplishments, basically meaning he was a top 3 star of the game a lot last season. He was also an AHL First Team Allstar last season. So much more of Mancari's individual accomplishments can be found here at the Portland Pirates profile page.

-What Mancari told The Province after signing here: "Being up and down with Buffalo, I've played anywhere from fourth line to first line," said Mancari. "I'm 6-4, 225, I'm a big guy and I'm not afraid to use my size. I'm not afraid to defend my teammates, but at the same time I feel I can bring an offensive game to the NHL."

OK, here's where the "problems" start.

Star-divide

With a super hard shot and massive success in the AHL why didn't he stick with the Sabres team as a 26 year old? Since 2006-07 he has only played 36 games with Buffalo and recorded 3 goals and 13 points. He has been passed over by may Sabres prospects since. For that reasoning I have not been able to find a Sabres/Pirates person to interview yet. So I had to go to the HF Boards (Sabres edition) because I couldn't find anything else to look for answers. So allow me to quote some of the things I found there and any Sabres / Pirates fans are free to intervene in the comments...

If Mancari is going to stick in the NHL, he's going to have to do it as a bottom-6 forward who uses his size to his advantage. He's a big man who doesn't always play big. He'll need to change that. If he keeps his head down and closes this season well, and possibly performs well in a late-season call-up, I could see the team considering giving him a one-way league minimum deal to be a 13th/14th forward. I think a good playoff run with the Pirates could enhance that opportunity.

He has some touch with the puck, that big shot, and a good sized frame. If he has, as it seems, adjusted his attitude about how to make the team and shows more willingness to impose his size on his next recall.

Mark Mancair has in fact "NEVER" been given the opportunity to prove himself with the big club the way other prospects have. Like all of the prospects, he should be given a minimum 20 game run to see if he adjusts.

All this talk of him being a career AHL'er is pure nonsense and opinionated based. It has no foundation to stand on given the very "FACT" that he has not been given the opportunity like other prospects have.

He's another Jody Gage. A one dimensional player that hasn't been able to bring that dimension to the NHL. If he's not scoring goals he doesn't do anything else well enough to hold a roster spot. He didn't show any change during his last recall. He didn't get the call over Ellis/Byron because the Sabres saw what he can do and it's clearly not enough.

Mancari has Jody Gage syndrome in a bad way. Despite dominating the AHL he never shows much when he gets called up. So he never gets called up anymore. It's gotten so bad that he couldn't get a nod over 144-lb. Paul Byron or known quantity Matt Ellis when 3 Sabre forwards went out with injuries. Mancari responded to the snub by putting up his second hast trick in two games.

I would still like to the Sabres extend the same patience to Mancari as they did Gerbe, who showed little promise until things seemed to finally click last week. Mancari has only seen very spotty NHL action. He has shown that he deserves a real chance, but then again I'm no pro hockey scout so maybe there's something about his game that is holding him back.

Mancari hasn't been called up much because there hasn't been really any reason to call him up. Indeed injuries have happened this year, but the organization needs to see how other prospects are faring in their development. They know how Mancari is faring because when they call him up he plays the same way; and that is uninspired hockey with a body frame that could be used for so many constructive hockey plays.

Not really leaving you with positive thoughts is it?

Anyway what has me wondering is that Mike Gillis signed Mancari to a 1-way deal worth $525,000. 1-way. So he goes to training camp and what if he fails to impress? Waivers? Bah it's too late at night to think about this. For all we know he could become cannon fodder in a trade as well.

On a deep Canucks team it's going to be difficult for Mancari to crack the roster. If he does he's a Tanner Glass / Rick Rypien replacement with a better shot, which isn't all that difficult (sorry Tanner). But hey...you never know. It's another gamble of sorts by Mike Gillis and I generally like his gambles.Maybe he'll get a bigger shot here regardless. I don't know.

Video? It did kill the radio star after all.

Mancari breaks the AHL record for hardest shot:

Mancari's first NHL goal:

Mancari fight:

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Thanks for doing the digging :) I don’t see the harm in giving him a proper chance on our fourth line and seeing what happens.

by eleccy on Jul 3, 2011 6:57 AM PDT reply actions  

Me either

It has been shown time and again in the NHL, one team’s opinion of a player is just that, an opinion. GMMG trusts his scouts, and they obviously saw something in the guy.

Works for me, at worst, he throws the knuckles against the Neanderthal teams…

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by vancitydan on Jul 3, 2011 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

He would be an upgrade

To Glass given he is bigger, as long as he can fight. That one above looks like he can handle himself. So agree, lets give the kid a shot. Still sorry to see Rick R go. Tanner G also but he had he chance to make an impact in the playoffs. I would have loved to see RR on 4th line.

by Presidents Trophy on Jul 3, 2011 8:59 AM PDT reply actions  

Nathan Gerbe

It took a long time for Buffalo to ever give him a real shot on their team, and when they did he looked amazing.

I like big fourth liners….

by T.Haynes on Jul 3, 2011 9:26 AM PDT reply actions  

No downside

Worst case, he doesn’t make the team. I think it is a nice buy-low opportunity. Reskie and Mancari on the wings on L4 makes me smile.

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by Jevant on Jul 3, 2011 10:39 AM PDT reply actions  

If he’s a big guy who doesn’t back check I don’t see AV giving him a shot. Hopefully he’s excited enough about this opportunity to work on his two way game

by Canuckelhead on Jul 3, 2011 11:10 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Off Topic

but Franson and Lombardi (cash dump) to Toronto for peanuts?! The price of makign the administrative mistake, I guess.

If I was a Nashville fan, between possibly losing QLC offers for some of my younger core players, and losing a potential franchise Offensive Defenceman for next to nothing to make room to sign those same core players… I would want to fire a GM, or at least punt a kitten.

That deal basically comes down to losing Franson to get rid of Lombardi’s contract, and get a little back-end insurance in return. I understand that they have guys like Blum and Ellis who can step in eventually, but this would really blow if I was a Preds fan.

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by Vancouverguy on Jul 3, 2011 11:15 AM PDT reply actions  

I don't get

How its to get out from under on Lombardi. I get that he is signed for two more years. But he is exactly what they need when healthy, and on the LTIR if his injuries are chronic.

Maybe they need to get away from the money for the QOP screw up ( punting kittens is the least of it. This happens far too much in the NHL. Do these guys truly know how NOT to read a watch? )…or maybe they free up money for the Weber arb.

But Burkey basically stole Franson, who is a good young player, so kudos to him.

If its for the former then, Poile knows that the 7 (!!!?) young players he effed up on is going to cost, and also that he knows they effed up, no matter how much the NHL front office tried to help them out by just dismissing it…

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by vancitydan on Jul 3, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Burkie just made out like bandits. When leafs-nation was upset with him for not doing anything on Day 1, they never expected he would be able to re-coup a young, cost-efficient Offensive D-man with pretty much all-star level potential, (albeit only for 1 more year at the low rate before RFA kicks in), AND get rid of their favourite scapegoat Lebda.

Good day for toronto fans, good day for us too, to watch the Nashville schadenfreude. The guys at OtF thinks management will be going hard for Parise…. I see them maybe getting Semin from Washington, given their cap situation, at best.

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by Vancouverguy on Jul 3, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whatever the motivation

It was a good deal. I have my doubts about Franson and “All Star”, but he is a good young defenseman, for sure, and he does have great potential.

Poile better get someone big to make the stink go away if the arbitrator rules against them in the QO thing.

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by vancitydan on Jul 3, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

In a statement, Predators’ general manager David Poile said:

"Unfortunately, Matthew Lombardi’s concussion last season and recovery left us uncertain about his ability to come back for this season, and that uncertainty has made it difficult for us to move forward, plan and develop our lineup."

I am a huge Lombardi fan. That concussion was pretty bad though. He is a risk in that sense.

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by Sean Zandberg on Jul 3, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's all about coaching Bias

Here in Van if you don’t have size and “Dependability” you don’t get a shot to make a case for sticking. See Shiro, Lee Sweat (before injury), Grabner (more dependability than size), Ballard etc.

In Buffalo they may have a bias against players that lack tenaciousness, since most of their players are of the average to smaller variety. So the kid could get a real shot here and if he fails he could go down to the farm and help the wolves. All in All not a bad move

by Vokail on Jul 3, 2011 11:48 AM PDT reply actions  

Size?

Tambellini was in the top6 for a while until he went dry.

by Wisp on Jul 3, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right

but he was dependable, a good two way player so he could be “trusted”, Shiro on the other hand could be “trusted”

by Vokail on Jul 3, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sabres fan here

The article pretty much sums it up, you’ll love Mancaris shot, but unless he becomes a better skater(How weird is it saying that about a professional hockey player?) he’ll be of minimum value. At least that’s my take.

I still hope he has success, he seems like a nice kid.

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Jul 3, 2011 1:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Thanks for your input :)

Question: I’m going to be seeing the Sabres in October; who should I watch out for? (I have to admit to not knowing much about players outside of the Canucks, haha).

by eleccy on Jul 3, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tyler Ennis

Is stupid fast with the Puck. Derek Roy has quietly become a pretty good Center, and obviously Tyler Myers is a beast. Theres another young D-man named Marc Andre Gragnani(might have butchered that spelling) who looked really good when he was called up last season.

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Jul 3, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome

Thanks for your help :)

by eleccy on Jul 3, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

No worries

And hopefully we see you next year for the cup.

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Jul 3, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

1 way

doesn’t determine waiver status.

Mancari signed his ELC at age 20. According to Capgeek, skaters signed at age 20 are only exempt from waivers for following 3 years and assuming the player plays < 160 NHL games.

Therefore he is illegible for exemption. 1 way deal only means Aquilini has to pay him 400k more when he’s in the minors.

by seedvt on Jul 3, 2011 1:40 PM PDT reply actions  

well sheeeeeeeeit

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by Sean Zandberg on Jul 3, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

He has camp to prove himself in – otherwise, he’s on the farm.

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by Thursday on Jul 3, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

From TSN

The Vancouver Canucks have signed right wing Steven Pinizzotto.

The 27-year-old winger spent the 2010.11 season with the Hershey Bears, the AHL affiliate of the Washington Capitals. There he collected 17 goals and 25 assists, while amassing 178 penalty minutes in 68 games.

Pinizzotto has never suited up in the NHL but has played 210 games over five seasons with Hershey. He was originally signed by Washington as a free agent in 2007.

This looks like a Wolves signing rather than Canucks.

by nucklinBadger on Jul 3, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, that’s more a Wolves signing.

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by missy on Jul 3, 2011 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is it weird

That I miss the Moose? Wolves signing just doesn’t sound right.

by Canuckelhead on Jul 3, 2011 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

it will definitely take some adjustment.

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by missy on Jul 3, 2011 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will be extremely happy if Pinizzotto produces like Chris Tanev.

Hershey Bears winger Steve Pinizzotto started blazing a pro hockey trail for Rochester Institute of Technology players. One of those players was Chris Tanev, who had a strong rookie season in 2010-11 and played in the Stanley Cup Final for the Vancouver Canucks. Now Pinizzotto, who signed a free-agent deal with the Canucks, is joining Tanev in the Vancouver organization.

"He was following in my footsteps," Pinizzotto said Sunday. "Now I’m following in his."

Pinizzotto made his pro debut with Hershey in 2006-07 and was a member of Calder Cup clubs in 2008-09 and 2009-10. The 27-year-old established career highs for goals (17) and points (42) last season. Pinizzotto, who plays with an edge and has some offensive touch, said the free-agent departure of Raffi Torres creates a potential vacuum on the Vancouver roster that he hopes to fill. He also is a strong penalty killer.

"It came down to their reputation and how they play and what they need," Pinizzotto said. "I feel like I can fill a role that they need. A lot of thought went into the process."

Pinizzotto said he got a contract offer to re-sign with the Washington Capitals and personal appeals from Caps head coach Bruce Boudreau and assistant coach Bob Woods to remain in the organization. "They reached out to me," Pinizzotto said. "I felt it was time to move on. It was a tough decision. Hopefully, it turns out to be the right one."

Though Pinizzotto got one NHL recall from the Caps, he never played a game for them.

"I believe there’s a pretty good chance that I can get some time [in Vancouver]," Pinizzotto said. "At my age now, opportunity is pretty big. I feel like the window is getting smaller. This is a huge year for me."

If assigned to the AHL, Pinizzotto would play for the Chicago Wolves.

"I just want to thank the people in Hershey," Pinizzotto said. "There’s nothing better than playing in front of that crowd, the way they sell out and support you.

"Especially my style, they seemed to take a liking to me pretty quick. I had a great time there and met some really good people, guys I’ll talk to the rest of my life."

by nucklinBadger on Jul 3, 2011 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 3, 2011 10:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Nope, he's got the "I'm not Swedish" Exemption

Now Pathrik and/or Ponthus Westerholm are another story… Swedish and twins… Come on!

by DCR on Jul 5, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

So we have...

…The Best of the West(erholm)!

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by Thursday on Jul 5, 2011 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pank/ponk ftw

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by Twitchy2010 on Jul 5, 2011 1:15 PM PDT reply actions  

PAPO

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by Semi_Colon on Jul 5, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pank and Ponk! HAHAHA

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