Free Agency Madness Day 2 Open Thread
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TSN expects UFA Brad Richards to make a decision on what team to play for on Saturday. TSN also reports that Calgary has made him a legit offer. Rangers sign Brad Richards to a 9-year, $60 million deal this morning.
A look at the Western and Eastern Free Agents lists shows there are still some "big" names out there. Nobody wants Jamie Langenbrunner? Ian White? Anton Babchuk? Tomas Kaberle? Simon Gagne? Shane O'Brien? (Kidding). Some of the names on the RFA lists are noteworthy as well. Many of them will become UFA's in coming days.
I am not keeping track of all the signings today. We can discuss moves in the comments section, and of course any Canucks movement will be front-paged. Enjoy!
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Same haha
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by Big Blue Whale on Jul 2, 2011 1:18 AM PDT up reply actions
The Panthers signed like 30 guys to massive contracts
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jul 2, 2011 4:43 AM PDT up reply actions
so am i
had to work 9-5:30 both yesterday and today, partied at the harbour last night.
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If mg is a jedi
Then by all means pls use the mind trick to sign a langenbrunner for a fourth line role. How would I put this… Former leaders in cup winning teams are welcomed at 1m per.
by nucklinBadger on Jul 2, 2011 1:37 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
The guy
who bitched his way out of Jersey? No thanks.
I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?
Good to see you’re displaying common sense Smo.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jul 2, 2011 5:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Kevin, give me a link to the story that Langenbrunner bitched his way out of Jersey. Please?
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by Sean Zandberg on Jul 2, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
It mainly had to do with Lemaire, but since he did screw around with MacLame and refused to hold himself (or anyone) accountable for the bad play, he was basically a cause
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jul 3, 2011 5:07 AM PDT up reply actions
How dare you forget the best UFA available, Alex Kovalev!
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jul 2, 2011 4:28 AM PDT reply actions
Oh, Kevin
Why do you have to be that guy?…..;)
I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?
He’s getting signed by the Kings anyways, after they lose out on Richards
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jul 2, 2011 5:08 AM PDT up reply actions
What a consolation prize!
"I prematurely shot my wad on what was supposed to be a dry run, if you will, so now I'm afraid i have something of a mess on my hands."
"There's just so many poorly chosen words in that sentence."
They missed out on Kovalchuk and got Poni. Makes sense that they add a mediocre winger.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jul 2, 2011 5:12 AM PDT up reply actions
although in all fairness, Poni was good in Toronto, he just sucked elsewhere. Kovalev just sucks in general.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jul 2, 2011 5:12 AM PDT up reply actions
WHAT
GET OUT
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 2, 2011 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
There's the Richards domino
Great! now the REALLY stupid contracts can start popping up :$
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Not bad at all
9 years? Pretty fucking bad
"I prematurely shot my wad on what was supposed to be a dry run, if you will, so now I'm afraid i have something of a mess on my hands."
"There's just so many poorly chosen words in that sentence."
Ya.. Luongo got 12,, and Ehrhoff got 10. 6.5 over 9 years is pretty reasonable. It’s probably incredibly front loaded.
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Just because the others ones were really bad
Doesn’t make 9 years reasonable. He’s 31. This takes him till 40
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reasonable, I guess is going to be a relative term at this point.
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by Vancouverguy on Jul 2, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Wow. Solid signing and $$$ for the Rangers.
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by Sean Zandberg on Jul 2, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
You think that signing is going to look good when he’s got a cap hit of 6.5 when he’s 35+?
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considering the type of production gomez and drury had given before they signed with the rangers and the cap hits they had, richards is by far way more skilled, he also puts up a consistent amount of points (usually at or above a point per game), and his cap hit is lower than the gomez/drury ones. its not amazing, but considering the deep pockets of rangers owner they can buy him out if need be. him and gaborik on the same line?? wow…
See
I hate this notion of signing a guy to a long term deal heavily front loaded with the plan to bury him when he gets old. Just not in the spirit of the cap
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Yeah, nuts to the cap! Rules are made to be broken
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by Sean Zandberg on Jul 2, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s probably incredibly front loaded.
As is Ehrhoff’s.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
From Greg Wyshynski
“Star unrestricted free-agent center Brad Richards had three clear criteria in selecting his new hockey home: Stability in ownership, a strong hockey market and the chance to win the Stanley Cup.”
Oh well, 2 out of 3 ain’t bad.
GOODBYE LUONGO!
Well technically
Every team has a chance to win the cup…some less of one than others…
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Well
There’s a chance….a very very small one
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it's T.O.
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Toronto's going to be in the playoffs in two years
and a cup contender in five years. You just wait and see. Makes me barf in my mouth a little just thinking about it.
Ugh, getting a stomach ache thinking about them beating us to the cup.
Need another margharita
Ugh, getting a stomach ache thinking about them beating us to the cup.
Wait..what?
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by Sean Zandberg on Jul 2, 2011 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s like all the people ready to crown Edmonton. Come on. If the cup can be won with a couple of top draft picks… then how does Detroit compete year after year? Look at Florida and Columbus.
Toronto is going to be competitive, no doubt. They will probably sneak into the playoffs this season, unless they completely collapse again. Keep in mind if they didn’t tank during the middle of the season, they would have absolutely had a legitimate claim to a playoff spot.
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by Vancouverguy on Jul 2, 2011 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't even think they'll make it next year
Reimer is going to regress HARD.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 2, 2011 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
But if you watch their second half, they were playing pretty well, and they shot up the standings. I just thought maybe if they had their top-6 figured out, with their D which was, while not spectacular, somewhat solid, they had a good chance.
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by Vancouverguy on Jul 2, 2011 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Komi and Lebda are terrible
and yet still get regular ice time. Reimer will have to play excellently for the whole season, possibly even better than he did in the second half of last year. I seriously doubt they’ll make it at all.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 2, 2011 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, I ain’t making you any Leaf bets this year!
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by Sean Zandberg on Jul 3, 2011 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions
HAHA
Betting on the Leafs is never a good bet.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 3, 2011 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions
How about now? They just got Franson for peanuts.
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by Vancouverguy on Jul 3, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
And moved Lebda. That was a damn good trade for TO, and if Lombardi can come back, it’s massive.
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Fuck
they just might make it next year.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 3, 2011 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions
wait to see the details
9 yrs just to get the cap hit down. Front loaded, the last few years wont be worth anything.
Anyone know of Hansen's status?
Is he eligible for arbitration? Is it possible we may lose him?
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Not unless someone steps up with an absolute stupid
offer sheet. MG sounded pretty confident that he would have him and Wrecker signed very soon.
I don’t think they are going to arb, but we can match any offer, so don’t worry too much about losing him.
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If someone offers him anything north of 2, 2.5ish… i don’t think he gets matched.
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I don't see GMMG
letting it get that far, and Hansen sure does not seem like a player that wants to be elsewhere. I bet the only thing they are discussing is term.
Listening to Wiz yesterday, he talked about the incredible pressure and angst over being on 1 year deals like he was for 5 years previous.
Money, well, that will seem fair when it is done, methinks ( my first methinks of 2011…so proud )
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I don’t think we can really say “Hansen sure doesn’t seem like a player that wants to be elsewhere”. Because everyone on the Canucks sure looked like they didn’t want to go anywhere, but yet Torres and Ehrhoff are both gone now.
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Just my opinion. I don’t remember having the same opinion on the other two. Hansen is more of a Bieksa, Burrows, Kesler type, that grew up in the Canucks system.
Those other two, obviously not.
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Agreed
Errhoff in particular never sounded committed, especially in comparison with Bieksa.
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by Tink for Nucks on Jul 2, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
I think GMMG
is going to wait this out and go the trade or offer sheet route. Hodgson, Schneider, dare I say….Lu as bait. Ok…maybe not Lu.
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Yay!
Always liked him. Glad to see him stick around to help keep the young ones in check
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Agreed
He’s really taking to Keane’s old role. I remember last year in training camp when he told the team to not even go through the motions of offering an NHL job if they were planning to send him down: if his job was going to be mentoring the farm, he was going to start there and do exactly that.
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Best description of the Richard's contract
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After New York State Taxes, Brad Richards could buy every song on iTunes 5 times. Oh and 1.5 million Dances of the Lap.
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heehee Leafs
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Paperwork being worked on between the Leafs and Tim Connolly. 2 year agreement @ $4.75 aav.
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2 years isn't terrible I guess
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Well
Leafs have a lot of cap space to spare
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Tim...Phil
Phil, meet Tim, your new #1 center.
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Plan B
for the Leafs
That terrible time of the year when their is no hockey!
by canucksfandrew on Jul 2, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Connolly….wow. Not a very solid 2nd option. Injury prone.
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by Sean Zandberg on Jul 2, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
oh god
why burkie why
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 2, 2011 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Man I missed all the excitement
No more ehrhoff? Can’t say that i’m sad. Just the opposite in fact.
No more torres? Opposite feelings that ehrhoff brings
No more bearhunter? Meh.
Who the…who? Wtf is a Marc Manteri? Is this the Aquilini’s helping out a third cousin?
Marco Sturm? Uhhh…GMMG planning on another Manny? Hope he’s not as drunk as our last german.
So uh…so what else is up? APC kicked ass in portland, opening act was this kick ass all girl japanese math punk/hardcore band called Red Bacteria Vacuum, worth checking out if you think you’d like the female anime offspring of weezer and Dillinger Escape Plan. Also won two poker tourneys and bought myself a new iPad and paid for the trip. :)
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yes
that apc :)
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Gagne
LAKings LA Kings
#LAKings reach verbal agreement with left wing Simon Gagne on two-year contract. More details to come.
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That was obviously their backup plan
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Yeesh. Them Kings are looking scary. Gagne already played with Richards too. Willie Mitchell must be salivating right now
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by Sean Zandberg on Jul 2, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not worried
About the Kings. Too many injury-prone forwards, not convinced they’ll gel well, Doughty is obviously coming here via offer sheet…
by Azzy Mahmood on Jul 2, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Super D and a solid top 9. I think you may be underestimating them
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by Sean Zandberg on Jul 2, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Yupp. Kings on paper are very, very strong. They’ve been slowly getting there, much in the same way Van has, if just a couple of years later.
by rsm on Jul 2, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
We’ll have to agree to disagree – a lot of teams are strong on paper, but very few prove their supposed worth over the course of 82+ games. We are doing so (but are not quite there yet) – the Kings are nowhere near deserving of their acclaim. We should give them a season (yes, another) to see what they’re made of.
But under no circumstances am I afraid of Gagne, Richards or Williams – to name but 3. We still take a playoff series comfortably off these guys.
The kings were kinda scary last year
I think they’re the stiffest competition in the west with these new signings.
by Canuckelhead on Jul 2, 2011 3:11 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
San jose and LA will be toughest next year. A few other teams are in decline, though, namely Detroit.
Still gotta beat the best teams.
Still not totally sold on the kings
They have been getting better on paper, and underperforming since the 70s!
Yes, they will be better. I am of the opinion that they will have to show me before I put them above the Wings and Hawks in our conference.
They should do it. They are worthy of being talked about as one of the top tier team in the West now. In the offseason. But lets wait on it all.
I don’t know how happy Willy is, for instance. Great team guy, of course he wont say it, but he must be shaking his head at Doughty demanding to be the team’s highest paid player, over the 6.8 Kopitar makes. He is, and should, be waiting for the Weber arbitration to set the market, and then some of that Cap heaven is gone.
But yeah, great team, Richards makes them better, blah blah blah.
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I don’t know how happy Willy is, for instance. Great team guy, of course he wont say it, but he must be shaking his head at Doughty demanding to be the team’s highest paid player, over the 6.8 Kopitar makes.
I don’t know about that. OK, so you think the Canucks players feel that way about Luongo?
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by Sean Zandberg on Jul 2, 2011 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
What’s wrong with Doughty being the highest payed player either? He’s young, and going to be amazing. Hell, he already is
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There are steps in the NHL
Even the best players. You don’t see them come out of their ELC and become the highest paid player.
Apart from the fact he is awesome, he has not earned it yet. Most of the “team” guys …this is when they get the 2-3 year deal at very good money, and THEN the biggest money deal.
Instead, after a season where he came in out of shape, had a slow start, and did not start really producing until the second half, he demands the biggest money over Kopy.
I am just saying, that cannot be good for the room. It certainly is not the same as in Vancouver. There is no doubt he may be worth it in a couple of years, but as good as Doughty is, he is not a 7 mil player yet.
The demand just seems kinda “primadonna” to me.
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Not saying Doughty should or should not have that happen but yes there are times when the best players come out of their ELC with a huge deal. Crosby and Ovechkin jump to mind and I am sure that is has happened other times also.
Sure it doesn’t happen often and generally only to the best players but it does happen
Lui
was not coming off his ELC when he got that deal
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Adiose, Rypper
@WFPEdTait: #WinnipegJets agree to terms with Rick Rypien, one year $700k
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jets taking all our
toughs
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by Tink for Nucks on Jul 2, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Good point
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by Sean Zandberg on Jul 2, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Just...wow
Richards deal:
12
12
9
8.5
8.5
8.5
7
1
1
1
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Tell me
How that is not circumvention right there
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
It doesn't
Drop 6M in one year
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Ehrhoff deal:
10
8
4
4
4
4
3
1
1
1
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
No clue how these (or the Roberto one, for that matter) passed league approval. Blatant cap circumvention.
Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.
Well
The ‘rules’ they put in place after Koval-gate said you couldn’t go less than 1M in the 36+ years (check), and this is fine because it only takes him to 40.
Also, I think they exploited a huge loophole to be able to drop 6M from season 6 to 7: He’s only getting 2M in “salary” + 10M bonus in the first year, so there is ‘only’ a 50% drop…
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only after they were given a contract AFTER being 35 I think. So these don’t count.
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by Vancouverguy on Jul 2, 2011 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Ian White is a Red Wing
http://www.kuklaskorner.com/index.php/hockey/comments/ian_white_now_a_red_wing/
Very affordable – 2 years 2.85m cap hit.
They’d like him. He fits much better than Ehrhoff into the Red Wings mold.
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Fuck White. He’s now dead to me!!! :)
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by Sean Zandberg on Jul 2, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
The NHL: where Jonathan Ericsson makes appreciably more than Ian White.
What a weird couple of days.
by Passive Voice on Jul 2, 2011 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s like most of the GMs all went on a huge booze and weed filled bender and then drunk dialed agents
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Disagree; Tallon was definitely on uppers yesterday.
by Passive Voice on Jul 2, 2011 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Anthony Stewart
signed by Canes: http://hurricanes.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=568306
2 years, cap hit of 900k. Damn
Damn
Would have been a good add to the 4th line
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My Second Line Wingers
I would love to go after Arnott and Ladd as Keslers second line wingers. Give them 2 mill each, we have some cap space for LTIR and Raymond + I think some of the 1 way contracts for the AHL guys are AHL guys and not for the Nucks.
Arnott shoots Right and can take the faceoffs if Kesler gets waived or after the PK
While Ladd shoots Left and is just a bitch to play against.
Tell me that wouldn’t be a beast of a line to follow up after the Sedins Line
i kinda like that idea… mind you arnott is old, although he scored 17 goals last year. i would love ladd playing with kes, get those two on a line with a guy like dustin brown?? i drool….lol
Arnott is old
but that’s what makes him affordable. He’s not as fast as he once was but he’s damn strong on the puck, in the dot and I think would click well with Kesler + Ladd. There isn’t alot of gifted passers on that line but they are all gritty and make smart plays.
I can imagine the fear in the opposition D when the line dumps the puck in to the corner and makes them turn to go get it.
Vokoun to the Caps
One year, 1.5M
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they’re going to have to make some moves if they want to resign brouwer, they only have like 19k in space. but thats a pretty solid goaltending duo (for the regular season at least)
You know..I think we are going to see a Pitts-Caps semi-final next season
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by Sean Zandberg on Jul 2, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Round 2 or ECF? Because I wouldn’t count out Boston or Philly yet
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Yeah, I am counting them out
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by Sean Zandberg on Jul 2, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
and Bryz gets +5 mill
Homer you should be fired.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 2, 2011 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
No way. Bryzgalov is worth every penny
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by Sean Zandberg on Jul 3, 2011 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions
For 9 years?
When Vokoun could have been had for 1 year at 1.5? And at the expense of Richards?
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 3, 2011 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Fuck me
The Kings still have 12.5M in cap space? Even after re-upping Doughty they’re still going to have at least 5.5Mish.
Yeah, I think they’re going to be favourites this year. Although I’m still not completely sold on Quick
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Quick has a 50 save win
or is shell shocked…sound familiar?
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it was inevitable
that they would become a powerhouse sooner or later. I thought it’d be last year but that proved not to be the case. This year though… that’s a potential conference-winning squad.
FFS
You guys can “crown their asses” all you want…sit quivering in the corner about the big bad Kings.
They are not that impressive until they SHOW me!
Yes, they are great on paper, but I am one that is definitely not convinced until they show me…
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by vancitydan on Jul 3, 2011 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's why...
…the word “potential” is in the post. EVERY team is on paper right now, and we’re making judgments on them – that’s the fun of off-season. Otherwise, what else is there to talk about for the next few months?
And yes, the Kings and the Sabres look pretty damn good right now.
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How many believe the NHL is heading
towards another lockout after next year and the GM’s of certain teams are free-wheeling because they will just try and roll back salaries like they did the last time. There are still quite a few teams operating at a loss but yet forced to spend $48 million. Front loaded salaries are sure to be a sticking point as well.
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I started thinking about that and then stopped. I don’t want to think about it
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by Sean Zandberg on Jul 2, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I know it is scary....hold your Kesler action figure tight
But I could really see it. Owners giving the green light to make outrageous offers because they know they will only have to pay one year of it and then the rest of the contract will be reduced.
Brilliant!…..or collusion.
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I would hope that lessons have been learned all around…
by Passive Voice on Jul 2, 2011 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Lots of signings today..
Does anybody think players are reluctant to signed with “the most hated team in the league” ?
Perhaps the reputation of rioting after losses may also off-put some of the potential signees.
Not at all, or not very much. I don’t think Gillis likes the price tags. He’ll wait this madness out
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by Sean Zandberg on Jul 2, 2011 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly
This years market was filled with a bunch of average players getting paid crazy amounts of money.
It was payday we couldn’t compete with.
And he didn't have a lot of money to throw
unlike Tallon.
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DOLLA DOLLA BILLS Y'ALL
Dolla dolla bills y’all
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Worst Contracts
1. Connolly. Far-fetched as a Richards substitute, numbers/bottom line aren’t fantastic when healthy.
2. Fleischmann. This guy may not play again what with having a PE and being on Coumadin. Someone must think they know different.
3. Cole. Was once an effective player. I remember that.
Kudos to WAS for getting Brouwer, Ward. Great Vokoun contract. Great Varlamov trade.
by CdP on Jul 2, 2011 6:22 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I'm adding...
…Wisniewski. Five and a half million dollars for what, exactly? Over six years, at that. Good player and all, but “good” in the same sense as the Campbell signing by Chicago: they needed to show FA players they were serious.
And also possibly insane.
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It would be interesting to see a stat chart that compares point production or maybe something like CORSI versus salary.
The Corsi one goes
Frans Nielsen
Everyone Else
by Passive Voice on Jul 2, 2011 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
You know it
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by Sean Zandberg on Jul 2, 2011 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Disagree wholeheartedly on Connolly
I think that’s a nice pickup. If he’s healthy, he’s exactly what the Leafs needed. And if he ends up injured too much, he comes off the hook in 2 years so there’s no long-term issue there. I take more issue with the Fleischmann contract, since not only is it overpriced, the term is a far bigger risk for a guy whose injury history is no better than Connolly’s.
I think the Bergenheim contract is just embarrassing though. $2.75 million for the new Ruslan Fedotenko / Fernando Pisani? Dale Tallon is nuts.
Connolly is talented, gotta give him that. Just can’t stay healthy though. Him and Kessel is not a bad place to start if you want a top-6 forward tandem….
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by Vancouverguy on Jul 2, 2011 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
especially when you can hide them behind Kulemin-Grabo :D
by Passive Voice on Jul 2, 2011 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
MacArthur, if he can even get 80% of last year’s production would be solid also.
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by Vancouverguy on Jul 2, 2011 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Well
Everyone’s ready to anoint the Caps the Cup winners for next year now
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and i still can’t shake the feeling that george mcphee is a bumbling goofball
by Passive Voice on Jul 2, 2011 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Everyone’s ready to anoint the Caps the Cup winners for next year now
Hey whatever makes them STFU about us :)
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by Sean Zandberg on Jul 2, 2011 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
I’m cool with everyone not talking about us for a while. I just don’t see how adding an overpriced Ward/Hamrlik and Vokoun makes them go from round 2 sweep to Cup winners, but hey what do I know
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Well it’s speculation on my part. But personally I think the Caps have been a fringe contender for a couple years and I think these deals (including Brouwer) will most likely put them over.
Speaking of “over”….they are right at the cap and haven’t signed Brouwer yet.
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by Sean Zandberg on Jul 2, 2011 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions
nor Alzner
/fapfapfap
//what would be the onomatopoeia for rosterbating?
by Passive Voice on Jul 2, 2011 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
haha that works
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by Sean Zandberg on Jul 2, 2011 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions
hahaha
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Good
Vancouver kid.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 2, 2011 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Ward = overpayment for a great post-season. It wouldn’t surprise me to see him put up 5 points in the post season next year.
Their biggest and best move was getting a 1st and a 2nd for Varly.
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by Vancouverguy on Jul 2, 2011 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Can't say this line-up induces pants-wetting terror...
…but they’re going to be rather hard to play against.
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Until I see Ovechkin and Semin figure out
that hockey is a team sport, I don’t think they’re going anywhere further than they’ve been.
That being said, trading Varlamov for (essentially) Vokoun and a lottery pick? That’s insane. Vokoun is so much better in goal than Varlamov (and Neuvirth for that matter) it’s a joke…
I laughed. The ridiculous money and roster spots Philly sacrificed to get Byz when Voukon could be had for a shiny penny.
I think Vokoun took that pay cut for Washington only. I don’t think he would have done that for anyone else.
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by Sean Zandberg on Jul 3, 2011 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions
damnit, let's try this again
I think he would have for a team like Philly too. Even if he didn’t though, he’d certainly come in much cheaper than Bryz and is probably a better goalie too. Pretty mind-boggling to me how Vokoun gets paid so little though, especially with all the overpayments of this year’s free agency.
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During the summer months, you don’t actually have to be anywhere or do anything. Nobody will know if you skip a day in the gym or on the ice. You won’t look any physically different. And of course, some guys cash in on those facts.
But if those instances start to pile up during a particular year, you won’t make the offseason gains most players make, and you fall behind. You have to stay motivated.
And that’s just one of the reasons long-term contracts are stupid.
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L.A, Buffalo looking good so far
Rogers Arena - the Sugarbowl!
Thinking of committing a jersey foul
. Can’t decide between a Bieksa jersey or a Hamhuis jersey… Numerously thinking of settling on on one that says “Hamjuice.”
I saw a "The Sedins" jersey at a bar
during the Finals, with both “22” and “33” as numbers below. That was quite the jersey foul,, but I think this would top it. Therefore…

Kings are going to fucking crazy good next year
like top seed in the West good. Especially if Penner decides to be a hockey player again.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jul 2, 2011 11:14 PM PDT reply actions
I will agree with the
obvious — L.A. and Washington have improved. But let’s talk in October. Being the best on paper doesn’t mean shit if you can’t make it all come together. The Canucks were the best team on paper going into the season, led all categories during the season, yet Boston won the Cup. So just ‘cause you’re looking stacked and everyone is ready to hand you the Conference championship and the Cup, let’s play some hockey first.
And also, fickle Canucks fans pissed about how the Canucks lost all their grit with Rypien, Glass and Torres leaving, Rypien was out for a majority of the season, Glass did shit all during playoffs and if Torres is the reason you’re team isn’t winning the Cup, well then your team shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same breath as the Stanley Cup. Gillis has patience and wisdom on his side. Just ‘cause he didn’t make a splash July 1st doesn’t mean he doesn’t have a plan and isn’t targeting players, players that we’re not even thinking off. So I intend to be patient because the roster is incomplete. By summer’s end we should have a clearer picture of the Canucks team that’s about to embark the 2011/2012 season.
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by Canuck_gal on Jul 2, 2011 11:14 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
and if Torres is the reason you’re team isn’t winning the Cup, well then your team shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same breath as the Stanley Cup.
I know I’m not saying that, but having Torres skating around and bombing guys is a great thing to have on your team. It’s an important piece of the puzzle, IMO. Or, it a personal preference of mine.
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by Sean Zandberg on Jul 3, 2011 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Certainly true. I think we need to find someone else who can do this for us, though. Raffi has a bit of a reputation now
Let's hope
Greasy Italian No. 2 Mancari can pit his 6’4" frame to good use
No doubt
but i’m fully confident that GM MG can find someone to replace the role he played on our team.
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if Torres is the reason you’re team isn’t winning the Cup, well then your team shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same breath as the Stanley Cup.
Ever play Jenga? 8)
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