Neilson Numbers single out Edler, Ehrhoff as worst culprits in Game Three
by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 7, 2011 5:45 PM PDT
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PrintThat's not exactly a "stop the presses" type headline, I realize, as I suspect most Canuck fans would have identified these two guys as under-achievers (anti-achievers?) in last night's stinker. Simply put, both the Canucks defensive corps and the Canucks powerplay had disastrous outings in Game Three, and the two point men were major factors in the meltdowns of both units.
At the Edmonton Journal's blog the Cult of Hockey, we have been doing a detailed analysis of each game in the Stanley Cup Finals, offering advanced scoring summaries (including errors by the scored-upon team) and assigning individual responsibility for scoring chances both for and against (Neilson Numbers). These analyses shine the spotlight of blame on Alexander Edler and Christian Ehrhoff in particular, although with the exception of Sami Salo the entire Canucks defensive group including Roberto Luongo had a rough night. Up front so did the Sedin brothers as well as Ryan Kesler. It was just a bad night for the Canucks all the way around.
The good news for 'nucks fans is that Vancouver played enough bad hockey last night to lose an entire series, but just dropped a single game. The Canucks have now been outscored 55-56 in the playoffs, but are somehow not only in the Stanley Cup Finals but leading the series, with 14 wins and 7 losses overall. Better to win the close ones and lose the blowouts than the other way around, eh.
For those into forensic statistics of what went wrong in Game Three, read more here on Neilson Numbers.
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hardly a news flash even to us non-statsgeeks. but I do dig the work you’re doing, Bruce
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Vancouver actually did OK at even strength (per chances, not goals). Special teams, on the other hand …
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by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 7, 2011 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I said it before though, if Boston keeps winning the special teams battle we are not winning this series.
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"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"
I cried a little bit
but Bruce, you make a good point, we are up 2-1 and winning all the close games, given that the playoffs generally sees a lot more close games than blowouts.
That doesn’t make that game any less painful to stomach.
By the way, I like these editorials from a third party, always good to know we’re hatin’ on the right failures.
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notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
So, which failures are you hating on? I didn’t dare come on the GDT last night to find out. (But I’m gonna guess a bunch of the guys I named above were probably getting hammered.)
Agree on the third party viewpoint, I always find it helpful to hear an outsider’s view of our team, especially on a night they are NOT playing against us, but just watching the game. That’s why I thought some of you folks might be interested in this.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 7, 2011 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Ummmm
everyone except Sami Salo.
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notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
OK. Sounds close enough to “with the exception of Sami Salo” to me!
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by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 7, 2011 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
and it's not because we're used to excluding Sami either
because that propensity is based on him never playing because he’s injured. No, he played a decent game unlike… um…. everyone?
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notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
Ehrhoff was beyond disappointing last night. It’s almost as if the Canucks were playing with four defensemen really.
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To me, the backbreaker was that rather beautiful (yes, I said it) short handed goal by Marchand. I found it interesting that AV didn’t call a time-out at that point – it’s not like he has been reluctant to do so in other games.
Still, that original cluster-fuck of a goal with Edler’s stick snapping started the ball rolling. He looked completely lost out there for the entire play, and the team never recovered.
Flying that Nerd Flag high!
Which is fucking terrible
One bad goal and it all goes to hell? Grow a pair I say!
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"
Agreed.
Edler became befuddled and never straightened up after ward – and when that’s a guy you’re relying on for 25+ minutes, it’s never a good sign.
Just waiting for someone to demand we trade him. ;)
Flying that Nerd Flag high!
He still gets leeway :) He’s only 24.
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"
Paul Coffey looked bad against the Isles in ‘83. Of course he was still not-yet-22. But by the next year’s SCF he was fine.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 7, 2011 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I’m not going to write Edler off yet. He still has great nights. The inconsistency should (hopefully) work itself out as he gets older.
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"
Heh, sounds like you’re predicting the Canucks will be there next year too.
The thing about defencemen is that if they have an off-night it looks really bad. Not to mention if the whole unit gets thrown off by losing a man. I suspect they didn’t adjust well to the stronger Boston forecheck.
No, I was more saying you might have to wait ’til next year. :)
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by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 8, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
Oh well, what’s another year? I’ve been waiting since 1980.
I look forward to your next installment of the Neilson Numbers. I can’t help but wonder if I’m wrong that the Canucks weren’t epically bad yesterday, but hit an incredibly focused—maybe other-worldly—goalie.
Btw, if Thomas is other-worldly, I think AV should check with the league and make sure that’s allowed. ;)
We’re working on it. David Staples tracked NN’s last night, but they might not get posted until tonight. We’ll throw up a FanPost when they are published.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 9, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Headline Fixed
Neilson NumbersAnyone with eyes and a brain single out Edler, Ehrhoff as worst culprits in Game Three
Seriously tho, thanks for posting these bruce… Appreciate the stats.
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