Paging Mr.Gillis. Mr.Gillis? D-Day Updates / Open Thread
by Sean Zandberg on Jun 30, 2011 2:34 PM PDT
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No re-signings by the Canucks today...yet. But if there are I'll give them their own post plus put the quick update at the top of this post. So what else is happening around the NHL? A fair bit actually. Some rosterbation fantasies were squashed while others came to life. Here is a list of what's happening, with the top of the list being the most recent (not in exact chronicle order).
- So what free agents are left after today? Check it out. Rosterbate like there ain't no tomorrow!
- Jagr's agent Petr Svoboda is talking to more teams than just the Penguins, Rangers and Red Wings. He says Jagr will make up his mind "in the next few days." Haha, yep draw it out. We've been there before with Mats Sundin.
- From Cap Geek on Twitter (as of 7:50 pm): Top five cap payrolls heading into UFA period: #Penguins, #Sabres, #SJSharks, #NHLFlames and #Flyers ... in that order.
- The Ducks will not re-sign D Andreas Lilja, F Brad Winchester and F Jarko Ruutu. Teemu Selanne underwent knee surgery. (OC Register on Twitter)
- No contracts for Jan Hejda and especially James Wisniewski in Columbus yet.
- Christian Ehrhoff's deal with the Sabres is a reported 10 year deal worth $40 million! Bettman's ears just perked up. I wonder how front-loaded that deal is. UPDATE: Bobby Mac tweets: Year 1: $8M signing bonus, $2M salary; Year 2: $5M SB, $3M sal. That's $18M in 1st 2 yrs, or $15M before puck drops on 12-13 season. #tsn Holy effing signing bonuses! Then...Year 3: $4M; Year 4: $4M, Year 5: $4M; Year 6: $4M; Year 7: $3M; Year 8; $1M; Year 9: $1M, Year 10: $1M. Modified NTC. Cap hit=$4M/yr. #tsn
- Chris Johnston from the Canadian Press tweeted earlier that it Sounds like there's nothing imminent between Winnipeg and Andrew Ladd on a new contract. Excuse me, I need to go find a washroom..or a bush...
- @EJHradek_NHL: Holland says he's been told that Jagr is somewhere in North America. Wow.
- @tpanotchCSN: Flyers will NOT submit an offer sheet on Stamkos. It's over.
- 2:22 pm PST: Bob (not Bub) McKenzie tweets: Sure sounds like Christian Ehrhoff is close to being a Buffalo Sabre. Will update when it's confirmed.
- Ken Holland spoke to Jaromir Jagr's agent today. The Pens are still waiting for a response from the Jagr camp on the deal they put forth. Expect no answers on this "pathetic" issue until
- Avalanche sign D Ryan O'Byrne to a 2-year, $3.6 million deal. They also extended the contract of D Matt Hunwick.
- Bruins UFA's Tomas Kaberle and Michael Ryder will hit the open market tomorrow.
- The Avalanche will retire Peter Forsberg's jersey on opening night. Well-deserved of course. But I was wondering if they should retire his spare body parts instead.
- So Colin Fraser, who was the player who went to the Kings in the Ryan Smyth trade, was medically cleared by the Oilers' medical staff prior to the trade. Unfortunately, the Kings' doctors found that Fraser has medical issues requiring surgery (unhealed fracture / cyst in his ankle). Lovely. I'm sure some form of compensation will be figured out there.
- Darryl Sydor is the new assistant coach under Mike Yeo in Minnesota. The coaching staff is now complete (Darth Vader voice)
- Christian Ehrhoff is talking to former teammates who played/play for the Sabres to see what the situation is like there. File that under "who gives a shit?"
- The Sharks re-signed restricted free agent forwards Jamie McGinn and Frazer McLaren to 1 year deals today.
- The bastard Blackhawks signed D Steve Montador to a 4-year, $11 million contract. So much for one of my hopefuls.
- The Hurricanes broke a few of our hearts by re-signing F Jussi Jokinen to a 3-year $9 million contract.
- The Lightning re-signed aging wonder goalie Dwayne Roloson to a 1-year $3 million deal.
- Rangers extended the contract of F John Mitchell.
- The Predators bought out JP Dumont's ludicrous $4 million salary.
- The Blues signed T.J. Oshie to a 1-year $2.35 million contract.
- Oilers re-sign D Ladislav Smid to a 2-year $4.5 million deal. Oilers also put Sheldon Souray on unconditional waivers, as in..GTFO!
- Did you watch Game 7 of the Finals on the big screen TV on Georgia Street? Well check out this massive win of a picture. It's made up of 216 photos so you can zoom in and find yourself or scope out others (sicko).
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I don't like the sound of this
@garylawless
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NHL GMs getting nasty with one another – Flyers execs told to stay away from Stamkos or receive similar treamtent when Giroux and JVR are up
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
shits getting intense. Flyers deserve whatever nastiness they may face. They legally arent allowewd to go near stammer.
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Not legally allowed?
They most certainly are. They can submit an offer sheet to him as of tomorrow.
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
at this time they arent allowed to have any contact. Tomorrow they can so whatever they
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Yeah
But I don’t think they have approached him. Tampa is saying “Don’t offer him an offer sheet tomorrow”, which I don’t approve of
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
oh, i interpreted the tweet as if stamkos was approached by the flyers brass. Then what tampa is doing is wrong. Once its noon tomorrow philly can do whatever the fuck they please. Its t.b.‘s fault they didn’t get it done sooner at that point
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No what they are saying
is don’t offer sheet our guys or we will offer sheet yours out of spite. Basically it is collusion. Luckily no one in the US cares about hockey. If it was baseball it would be a shit storm and congress would probably investigate.
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by Section 312 on Jun 30, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly
That’s why I don’t like it.
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
That’s stupid. Lightning can say whatever the hell they want. If someone signs Stamkos to a 10M/yr deal, I just don’t see how Stevie Y can massage the cap to make it work, unless he dumps Malone and Ohlund…. or some combination of guys on their roster.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 30, 2011 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Isn’t MLB exempt from basic competition laws?
by Passive Voice on Jun 30, 2011 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
They have an Anti-trust exemption, yes.
That’s why Congress can get all up in MLB’s business – they can always threaten to take it away.
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Oh man
what I would give to see Holmgren declare war on Tampa by doing it anyways
they would be so cap fucked(more) if they signed him…
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I rec’d that shit.
well only until
they trade Pronger and Giroux just for the hell of it.
As an impartial observer and fan in the Western Conference, I only have this to say:
Work hard, play harder, rest easy.
by jwolf0 on Jun 30, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
The Jagr waiting game
Any chance he’s related to Sundin?
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Deju-vu all over again. Good thing we’re not in the mix.
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 30, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Amen to that.
Not even worried if he ends up in the West. Think he’ll be more hassle than Modano in Detroit.
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No…I think Jagr is far better than Modano at this age
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 30, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Possible. Think as he slows, his defensive shortcomings will be amplified.
Modano could at least play D responsibly.
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Modano...
…He changed his game as he aged, keeping some value. Jagr I don’t know about, but he certainly didn’t while he was in N. America.
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Ehrhoff deal almost confirmed… Sounds like $5.3 long-term but let’s guess for how many years..I’ll say 6
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I'll go with 5
but anything between 4-7 wouldn’t surprise me
He needed a top tier goalie to cover for his not actually being a defenseman…
4th forward ftw!!
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Hey, that’s a back-handed shot at Lou and I will not tolerate it!! haha
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 30, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Haha, No I was counting Lou in that too.. even Nabby. Can you imagine all the goals against he would lead to in front of a less skilled goalie…
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had an interesting twitter exchange
with someone named Habsterix, who was insisting that Buffalo would be really hard to score on now.
We exchanged 4 or 5 messages about Ehrhoff being defensibly sound or not before agreeing to disagree.
well they're certainly going to score more
especially on the PP. But harder to score on? That’s questionable. Montador is better at defense than Ehrhoff so I’d say they’ll be easier to score on now.
they picked up Regehr so I think it evens out…
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awaiting the amount...
@TSNBobMcKenzie
Bob McKenzie
Christian Ehrhoff has agreed to terms on a contract with the Buffalo Sabres.
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
...of decades.
"Thank you very much fans and let’s go for the next game together!"
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I rec’d that shit.
Have you ever been to Buffalo?
it’s seriously an ugly city with hugely ugly weather.
Yes
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
He'll
Have fun there
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Well if it was between Buffalo and Detroit, he was going to get a big dose of ugly either way.
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At least Buffalo doesn’t have the “everyone left and the real estate costs next to nothing” thing
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Screw you it was gorgeous out today ><
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What the hell, you live in Buffalo?
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
But Buffalo has 2 things going for it
Wegmans, and it’s right next to Canada. (Niagara, but whatever.)
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Niagara
Is the white trash/hillbilly part of Ontario.
I’m allowed to say that, my mom and GF are from the regiomn
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More Swedish twins!
Coming this September.
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#Canucks announce roster for prospects development camp next week. 34 players in total. And yes, the Swedish Westerholm twins, Pathrik and Ponthus, are both going to be there. #canucks #prospectscamp
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Errorhoff night?
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Errorhoff night?
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Awaiting confirmation on this, but hearing Ehrhoff’s deal in Buffalo is 10 years, $40 million. No clue yet on structure within that.
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Still cannot process
that Ehrhoff got 10 FREAKING YEARS.
Maybe they're trying to lower their cap hit?
I mean, 4M isn’t that bad… but 10 YEARS of 4M.
Wow.
Work hard, play harder, rest easy.
I'm guessing it's probably front loaded
But still…a decade?? Shit son
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
I was joking when I said decades earlier…jesus..
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exactly
nice cap hit now, but for a DECADE??? That’s just ugly.
he'll come in handy
for teams trying to hit the floor 5 years from now. Nice cap hit without a lot of actual salary to pay out.
I feel like this might be similar to the Canucks long term signing of Luongo. New ownership wanted to show it was committed and that they could get a big name FA to sign here long term and commit to this team and city. Buffalo needed to do the same thing, and I think this will get more players looking their way instead of avoiding them.
by sunshine and lollipops on Jun 30, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Ehrhoff is no Luongo
he’s good but he’s no franchise player
but you are right
in that ownership is making a statement here
Yeah, that’s pretty much what I was getting at. I’m not…how you say…succinct in my wording. :)
by sunshine and lollipops on Jun 30, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Ehrhoff's GAA is worse
but Luongo scored no goals this year.
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only 3 assists this year
damn you Luongo!
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It's different for goalies
Having a great goalie signed that long says to free agents that good goaltending is taken care of long term.
I don’t think it had so much to do with the role, I think it was more to show that this is a place where free agents will sign, and want to sign. It’s new ownership showing that they are spending money and turning things around. I think it’s a good sign for them.
by sunshine and lollipops on Jun 30, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, I can see why the Canucks couldn't sign him.
Outside of Luongo, Gillis hates those long-term contracts.
I can see why hockey players want them. Richards just bought a house or two in the Philly area before he was shipped off.
I hate moving, and with a family… yeah, that would be hell. Better to lock down a place to play until retirement.
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What the hell is Joel Ward up to these days?
I wouldn’t mind seeing him sign with either Vancouver or Chicago. Both could use a tougher forward.
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Oh god
I hope we don’t overpay for him
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I bet you
he’s looking for at least $2 million per after that playoff performance
He was consistently good all year
But yes, the bigger stage of the playoffs definitely gave him a chance to show off his value.
2 mil probably wouldn’t be too much if he kept up the same performance.
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oh I know
but had he not had that playoff performance he wouldn’t be asking for as much guaranteed. 8 goals in 12 games is far better than what he contributed in the regular season – not that he was bad then or anything, it’s just his Bergenheim-esque performance has his agent overvaluing him and possibly a GM overpaying him.
if we go after him...
probably the standard MGGM contract: 3yr/7.5m.
I think that's an overpayment
I wouldn’t go a dime over $2 million for Ward. But he’d be a nice acquisition if we did get him.
by Canuckk on Jun 30, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
i think so too
but he’s a UFA so he’s bound to get overpaid.
still doesn't distinguish
that it’s speculation and not a rumor. It’s coming entirely from outsiders who think it would make sense, not insiders claiming he’s on the Canucks’ actual list of UFAs to target
Couple things
1. Been processing the whole Ehrhoff situation and I’m already over it — good luck but also good riddance. Good speed and shot, so that has been a big plus for Nucks. BUT he is not nearly physical or tough enough — actually likely weakest Canuck D in that area, other than Tanev, but he’s just starting. Do you recall even one big, nasty body check, or once where he aggressively stood up for a teammate. I don’t. He’s just not tough enough to beat teams like Boston. Would you imagine him giving that last extra, from an empty tank effort or drop of blood to get us over the top in a real war like the Boston series — not me. So thank you Christian, but also good riddance.
2. Is anyone else upset about not re-signing Rick R. If he’s emotionally healthy I still think he has good speed and we all know how tough he is. I’m convinced that The rats Marchant and Peverly would have been a bit quieter, or at least absorbed way mo return punishment had the Ripper been playing. ripper is more of a Canuck than the German ever was
by Presidents Trophy on Jun 30, 2011 3:16 PM PDT reply actions
No, don’t care about losing Rypien, except I’ll miss his fights and his style.
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 30, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Liked Rypien's fighting
But we didn’t need an enforcer to keep Marchand and Peverly in line. We needed an effective PP.
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by jwolf0 on Jun 30, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'd rather lose Rypper than Ehrhoff.
Ehrhoff fits with the Canucks puck-moving, skill-over-grit style of play.
Now, you can argue that that Canucks need more grit, but they aren’t going to get it from a fourth liner that barely plays.
If they want more grit, they need bigger/tougher forwards on the top two or even third lines. Rypper is a good tough guy, but he’s not a good enough hockey player for the Canucks system.
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Nah, Ripper is definitely fast and smart enough fir 4th line
by Presidents Trophy on Jun 30, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
If this were true, they would’ve had him in there instead of Glass.
I like Rypien but he doesn’t bring much to the table other than fighting.
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Disagree
He’s not devoid of skills, though it is as a fourth line energy guy.
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Right conclusion, bad piss poor argument.
A pile of crap. The rats would have been quieter if the powerplay actually scored goals.
Physical intimidation only works when you’re not being punished. Erhoff’s mediocre defensive play is where the problem was at, he’s perfect for PP and running roughshod over 2nd and 3rd tier opposition. Facing top opposition every game his defensive weaknesses get exposed.
Perfect regular season player, not so much for the playoffs.
Rypien: Good entertainment, but this isn’t PPV. Don’t waste a slot on someone who doesn’t actually help you win games.
Just guessing
but if i had to bet, i’d say it’s 6 years at 6, and the last 4 years at 1 million each. makes sense for erhoff as well b/c that way, he can peace out when he’s 35 and only leave $4m on the table.
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by cyclone's ghost on Jun 30, 2011 3:24 PM PDT reply actions
Couldn't be
I think there’s a clause that salary can only drop a certain amount per year
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thanks for the heads up
i had no idea about that. but i still think it will start the first few years at around 6m
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by cyclone's ghost on Jun 30, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
I wouldn’t be surprised at that either. I say the last 2 years are the lowest,
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uhhhhhh what?
imacVanSun
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Looks like landscape changed. If Salo makes it to UFA, I doubt he'll be back.NikkiJacksonFan @imacVanSun Any news on Salo?"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
interesting...
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I still think we get Salo back for one more run at a good price,
But I get the gist of the statement. Man, the market for D-men is skewed all to hell now.
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Also
let’s not forget that the Canucks went to game 7 of the SCF….in addition to having the lowest goals scored against, in the regular season. So, if the market is hot for D-men right now, then the market for Canucks D-men is really really hot.
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I mean, if we don't re-sign Salo we have
Bieksa-Hamhuis
Ballard-Edler
Alberts-Rome
Tanev
Oi.
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
I like,
But if we start running that D-man parade to the trainer’s room again we’re in for it.
Work hard, play harder, rest easy.
Go Connaughton? I got nothing.
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Sauve
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by Section 312 on Jun 30, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Love the Rico Sauve
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 30, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Right
There ya go. Knew I was leaving someone out.
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Not sure if he will be ready
for a full time role which he won’t get anyway. But I think he is a capable fill in.
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by Section 312 on Jun 30, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
if there's no Salo
Tanev is in the line up, by virtue of being a right hand shot.
That defense is a step back from last year. Which worries me.
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
It's a long summer
but if last year we were expecting to get to the Final, may be this year we will have to lower our expectations a bit. Just a bit.
Los Angeles, CA
We haven't even reached July 1st
let alone the start of the season yet. Plenty of time for the team to fill out. We won’t go into the season with that as our defensive lineup. I am sure of that.
Maybe Gillis is gonna make a run at Doughty?
/joking
/wishing
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by Section 312 on Jun 30, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Or maybe Yandle?
I’m seeing reports the Coyotes might be having some financial issues getting him signed…
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
But who else is out there?
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Not sure
but I still think Salo comes back. He might be tempted by a bigger offer but hopefully he has enough money from his career and can take a little less to try to win. If not best of luck to him.
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by Section 312 on Jun 30, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Weber!!!!!!1
But realistically speaking… um, Wisnewski and… Hamrlik? Yeah, that’s all I got.
Weber isn't realy available though
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by Section 312 on Jun 30, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
true
but so long as Ballard learns to not suck that leaves us with much more money to spend up front, primarily getting Kes some real wingers. Which honestly I think I’d rather have at this point – a top-4 of Juice, Hammer, Edler and Ballard is still a great core IMO.
Holy shit
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Year 1: $8M signing bonus, $2M salary; Year 2: $5M SB, $3M sal. That’s $18M in 1st 2 yrs, or $15M before puck drops on 12-13 season. #tsn
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
As much as I like Ehrhoff
and understand his motivation,
I almost wish that Buffalo fails miserably next year. Just for the heck of it, and to realize that money and performance do not go hand in hand.
Los Angeles, CA
They count as normal I think, so basically he’s being paid 10M this year, and 8M next year, but 5M of next year’s is paid before the season even starts (in case of lockout)
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
I remember someone mentioning they count the same against the cap, the difference is, if there is a lockout, bonuses still get paid out.
by sunshine and lollipops on Jun 30, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
exactly
which is why we’re seeing a ton of them now. Which is really quite troubling when you think about it…
and the rest of it
Year 3: $4M; Year 4: $4M, Year 5: $4M; Year 6: $4M; Year 7: $3M; Year 8; $1M; Year 9: $1M, Year 10: $1M. Modified NTC. Cap hit=$4M/yr. #tsn
I find it hilarious
that signing Ehrhoff somehow suddenly transforms the Sabres into a top contender. Try looking at their forward core, MSM.
Ennis, Roy
Boyes, Pominville, Stafford, Gerbe
Am I missing something?
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by Section 312 on Jun 30, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
their forward core is small and average talent-wise. Boyes is an underacheiver, Gerbe and Ennis are years away from prolonged success and there’s no true star forward to lead the team. That’s a middle-of-the-pack forward core with no size. They are by no means built for the playoffs.
When it comes to the Sabres and the way Lindy Ruff coaches I think anything can be accomplished with that team. Plus, isn’t ownership going to spend more?
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 30, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Brad Richards
12M
12M
10M
8M
8M
6M
6M
6M
4M
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true
they definitely could win it all as is with Ruff at the helm but you could say the same for a dozen other teams (the Habs come to mind). And yeah Pegula gives the Sabres hope going forward, but as the roster is now I don’t think they’re a true contender by any means.
If the do get Richards though, that’s a whole other story.
Buffalo still long way off to get out of East, even with the German
by Presidents Trophy on Jun 30, 2011 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't know about that
they were a 7 seed that went to a game 7 in the first round and has one of the best goalies in the world. And one of the best young D men anywhere.
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by Section 312 on Jun 30, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
And some exciting forward players. I’m a big fan of Stafford, Vanek, Ennis, Gerbe for sure.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 30, 2011 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
They're better than people are giving them credit for
Vanek (man he can dangle) and Stafford were both thirty goal scorers last year. Roy is a point a game player. In Myers, Ehrhoff and Leopold they have three legitimate threats from the blue line. They’ve got Gaustad, Regher, Morrisonn and Kaleta for grit. They need to get better in the faceoff circle, but a couple key additions and they could be scary next year.
Jesus
10
8
4
4
4
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45% of the money in first 2 years?
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Nice bit of circumvention with the end there
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Ahh salary cap. You’re good for a laugh sometimes.
by sunshine and lollipops on Jun 30, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Mark July 2018 on your calendar
as the date when Ehrhoff moves back to Germany for good
A front-loaded
contract is worth much more than the reverse. That’s because there is an assumed interest income associated with it (the earlier you invest that money into some kind of debt instrument, the more money you can earn).
Los Angeles, CA
Exactly
It also helps out the team because the guy will retire before the last three years
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Right
I am surprised that the league allows this kind of shenanigans, since it is so transparent that the cap hit is so much lower than the reality.
Los Angeles, CA
Meh, nothing unethical about it
Cap hit is the average over the number of years. It works that way with every contract, long or short, front-loaded or evenly spread.
If a team is willing to pay that much or risk keeping a player that long, it’s their business.
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There is
When a contract pays a guy 45% of his earnings in the first two years, then 3M over the last three
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
It's a contract
If both parties agree to it, and the structure is disclosed, then it’s fine.
If they were paying under the table, or somehow getting around the cap, then yeah there would be an issue.
With this, teams are basically trading the cap-hit per year for the risk and price of keeping a player around for an extended period time, even when he may not be performing up to expectations.
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by mhsilver on Jun 30, 2011 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Question
what if 8 years from now the minimum NHL salary is above 1 million?
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by Section 312 on Jun 30, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Good question. I would imagine the team would have to pay the league minimum.
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I disagree
I think they’d just grandfather any contract that would pay less than that. But I highly doubt the league minimum will hit $1 million even by 2018.
Current CBA
“The player’s contract may be bought out. If the contract is not bought out, his salary must be increased to the League minimum.”
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by Section 312 on Jun 30, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
damn
you got me haha. But who knows what the CBA will look like in 2018??? (pretends that somehow makes point valid)
damn * signs making bold text
not what I intended
Hey section, OT
But, I finally got around to repyling to you in that other thread (i.e. opportunity for players vs being NHL level) and I’m curious what you think.
by Canuckelhead on Jun 30, 2011 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
ERHOFF DID NOT GO FOR TEH MONEYS!!!
SUCK IT ALL U HATERZZZ
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Ehrhoff
is laughing all the way to the bank. And he is thinking:" I am getting all this dough, and I don’t even have to work during the playoffs. I can watch the SCF from the comfort of my home, with a bowl of chips in front of me. Priceless."
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don't laugh
Fate is just ironic enough to see the Sabers across from us in the final or something.
My goal is to win the Stanley Cup, and after the offer I received from Buffalo, I believe this is the best place to make it happen
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by Semi_Colon on Jun 30, 2011 4:03 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
hahahahaha
“they gave me so much money I just knew they’re destined to win”
Is this an Ehrhoff direct quote? This seems like a pretty big diss to the Canucks.. Am I reading it incorrectly?
Full quote
"I was originally going to wait and see what was available on the free agent market," Ehrhoff said in a statement released by the team. "After the Sabres acquired my rights and I spoke with [owner] Terry Pegula and [General Manager] Darcy Regier, I did my due diligence on the team and I was very impressed. I called some former teammates and others in the NHL who also had great things to say and I was aware that Robyn Regehr had waived his no-trade clause in his contract this week to join the Sabres. My goal is to win the Stanley Cup, and after the offer I received from Buffalo, I believe this is the best place to make it happen."
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
You know
when a team signs a (relatively) big name, like Ehrhoff, it’s a great chance for the team to do some aggressive PR and marketing for the next season.
So, don’t read too much into his comments, it is just PR. He is saying all the right things, and doing a service to his future team.
Los Angeles, CA
Well, the Eastern Conference IS significantly weaker than the West
Buffalo has a top-tier goalie, better-than-average defense, and a decent offensive core.
Combined with Ruff’s coaching and whatever money Pagula decides to spend when some of the shorter-term contracts end, Buffalo could be a significant threat in the future.
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by mhsilver on Jun 30, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
maybe something was lost
in the German translation, like….I really like money
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by westy99 on Jun 30, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Jonathan Ericsson
Anyone? I would love to see him on our blueline if Detroit doesn’t resign…
no thanks
he’s a turnover machine. He allegedly has potential but if Detroit didn’t manage to get it out of him, I doubt we can.
ohhhh yeah
He’s Ehrhoff with even more turnovers and no offense. Which I’m sure sounds really appealing.
Wouldn’t surprise me one bit if Ericsson were KHL / Europe-bound.
he’s a turnover machine
I think they have one of those at A&W
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by SteveNux on Jun 30, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
heehee
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 30, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
No, you really wouldn't.
He played terribly last year and has NEVER lived up to his potential.
Detroit fans are all too eager to get rid of him, just for that reason, He’s a huge liability.
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The guys at Winging it Motown hates him. They must feel really bad to have to watch him play for 3 more seasons… or are trying to jump back on his lovefest since they have to deal with him for 3 more seasons.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 30, 2011 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
He just got re-signed with Detroit for way, way too much money
And no. He’s not really good.
by JenLovesHockey on Jun 30, 2011 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Bettman may not let this go through...
Clear cap circumvention case! What are they thinking?
Now, in hindsight
Would any of us be happy if the Canucks offered Ehrhoff a similar deal?
$4Mil cap hit is not bad, but we would be stuck with him for 7 years (before buying him out).
I don’t know..
Los Angeles, CA
Nope
Too too long
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
I wouldn't be happy
I’d reluctantly accept a 7-year deal but 10 years?!?! Not a chance.
You know
that it won’t be 10 years. It will be 6 or 7, and a buyout.
$4mil is not a bad hit, if he follows up with a few great years.
Los Angeles, CA
I know
but a 7 year deal would mean we could buy him out at 5 or 6 if need be, which would make me feel more comfortable about the contract. Ehrhoff is only useful while he’s producing offensively, and most offensive defensemen become pretty terrible at offense by the time they hit their mid-to-late-30s, making them useless (see Souray, Matthieu Schneider, etc).
No, I wouldn't like it. But the next question that comes to mind for me is,
What if the Islanders had offered this deal, would he take it?
Work hard, play harder, rest easy.
Doubt it
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Semi doubt. The worse kind.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 30, 2011 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
He turned down 33M/6, I highly doubt he’d accept 40M/10 to play with them.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 30, 2011 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
The worst about this is
that Sami is now thinking: Why the F*ck do I need to take $1.5 mil from the Canucks, when I can easily get twice as much?
Bye bye, Sami…
Los Angeles, CA
Whatever happened to the rule of thumb....
Don’t give a player a contract with more years in it than he has had productive seasons. Thanks cap circumventing contracts! You make GMs look awfully stupid sometimes (When they are trying to be smart.)
Don't ever change, Tony
tg_gman
Sabres better hope Ehrhoff doesn’t retire in a couple of years. One would presume he has agreed not to.
Yes. Because Ehrhoff is going to retire when he turns 30.
May be
Tony said that tongue-in-cheek. “Retire” as in “doesn’t give a shit anymore”.
Los Angeles, CA
Tony G doesn't do tongue-in-cheek
I’m pretty sure he straight-up though Ehrhoff might retire in 2 years. Which is hilarious.
I’m pretty sure the Sabres planned for this eventuality… rich owners rock.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 30, 2011 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
ohhhhhh boy
sportsnetbroph
Now hear the Sabres could make Brad Richards a huge, front-end loaded deal in neighborhood of 8 yrs and $60 mil with $50 mil in first 5 yrs
This is going to be interesting.
All I can say is I cannot WAIT for (a) Sabres fans to see Hoff exposed and (b) his inevitable injury that’ll make the deal look that much worse.
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Inevitable injury?
Since when is Ehrhoff injury-prone? He hasn’t played less than 77 games in a season since 2005-06…
Hoff exposed!
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Let the Sabres please conquer the FA market
less for the teams in the west and I believe that gives the Canucks a better chance to get back the final. Of course a forward for Kes and another defenseman would be nice. I would also like a free beer while I am dreaming.
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Seriously
Where the hell is Gillis?
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Making his overtime pay
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He's wherever Jagr is
that is to say, “somewhere in North America”.
I like the sound of this
angus_j
Just like they were 3 years ago…. #canucks sniffing around Brandon Dubinsky. Rangers deep at C, expecting to be deeper july 1. .
Aside from the fact that’d give us about a billion centers on the roster, DO WANT.
I’LL TAKE!!
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 30, 2011 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll chip in $50 bucks toward whatever his pay is! Make it work GMMG!
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 30, 2011 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
haha
Ericsson at 3.25 for 3 years. Dman market is unreal
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
That's just appalling
If Ericsson can get a near-$10 million contract then Wisnewski’s gonna be a billionaire tomorrow.
Kaberle's
Going to get a 6 mil cap hit at this rate
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Wouldn't surprise me at all
at this rate. “20 points in 49 games and no willingness to play defense? Here’s $30 million over 5 years”
that’s 3.25 total right? right? gotta be. right?
by Passive Voice on Jun 30, 2011 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions
exactly
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Seeing this...
…leaves me oddly content with our defense. I’d love to have Salo back, but that may be more difficult than $2 million dollars can make it…
Flying that Nerd Flag high!
Ok I respect Ken Holland and everything
but giving Ericsson $3.25 million a year is just insane. Kid had 15 points last year and averaged about 18 minutes a night. He’s also 27, so his alleged “potential” is fading fast. How the hell does that make him worth as much as Alex Edler or more than the recently-signed Steve Montador? Maybe the Wings know something I don’t, but I think this move is just plain awful.
This is just a fucked up year for free agency,
With spending to the cap floor and the Supply/Demand of D-men greatly skewed towards the players.
Work hard, play harder, rest easy.
fuck. i was skeptical two days ago, but shit got real.
by Passive Voice on Jun 30, 2011 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions
survey says....yes
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
So glad he didn’t make it to July 1st…he would have been swimming in offers. Hometown discount indeed…..
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I wish the offseason worked like NHL 11
Flipped Higgins’ expiring contract and Ballard to Los Angeles for Dustin Brown and Matt Green, no lie.
by Woodinville_12thMan on Jun 30, 2011 7:35 PM PDT reply actions
If NHL 11 worked in real life
and I were GM, we’d have already traded Ballard and a 2nd for Doughty, and Raymond and a 4th for Hall. (those trades actually work, no joke)
NHL 11
Did work in real life. Look at Holmgren
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
I'm pretty sure that was the first-ever
full re-enactment of a typical NHL 11 trade deadline. Mad respect to Holmgren for trusting a videogame with his job
The game values Ballard sooo highly.
Right now, Stamkos is sitting in free agency 10 games into the season. I would sign him, but Henrik, Kes, and Hodgson. Plus not enough cap space.
by Woodinville_12thMan on Jun 30, 2011 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Me too
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 30, 2011 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
ATTN: Get your rosterbation on here
@TheFourthPeriod
David Pagnotta
As of this afternoon, Jets weren’t close to signing either player RT @ikcotol any news on Ladd or Bogosian?
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
I wouldn't even be surprised
if Gillis offer-sheeted Ladd. Which would make me unbelievably happy (assuming we got him). Him and Kesler on a line would be both awesome and hilariously ironic.
Do want Ladd…..if that actually miraculously worked out, he could be a great linemate for Kes. Tomorrow will be interesting….I’ll be out doing Canada Day stuff, but it’ll be fun to see what went down when I get home.
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Hahaha, no fucking doubt
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 30, 2011 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Kurtenbloggers suggest Clay Wilson. Interesting idea and could maybe help replace Hoff’s offense for a really cheap contract.
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Re: Ladd and any other RFA targets
Anaheim got our 2012 3rd-rounder in exchange for Max. Unless we reacquire it, we can’t submit any offer sheets that include it as compensation. That limits us to the 1.5-3.1 range (2nd) and the 7.8+ range (4×1st). So…
by Passive Voice on Jun 30, 2011 10:58 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Fuck
Cock balls
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
by Semi_Colon on Jun 30, 2011 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
SIGN AND TRADE
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Haha
At last we finally did something right….
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I rec’d that shit.
by Steven Hida on Jun 30, 2011 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't like to see anybody turn on Ehrhoff
just because he signed with another team, but I wish him the best of luck with the Sabres. I’m SO glad he’s in the East, and at least it was our expansion cousin the Sabres. Wonder what kind of reception he’ll get in Vancouver?
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by Big Blue Whale on Jun 30, 2011 11:16 PM PDT reply actions
Good news for Germany
So we can watch him play for our national team at the World championship next May… Good luck to him.
by el presidente 19 on Jul 1, 2011 12:57 AM PDT reply actions
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