@News1130Sports: Agents for Andrew Alberts, Tanner Glass and Rick Rypien have had NO contact with the Canucks with free agency 3 days away.
Their Twitter feed also is stating that the Canucks and Christian Ehrhoff negotiations are on-going today.
Update: Bob McKenzie tweeted that unless there is a new development Ehrhoff will hit the open market. He even went as far to say that "it's believed VAN is now asking other NHL teams if they have interest in acquiring Ehrhoff's negotiating rights prior to July 1." Apparently the Canucks were offering the Mad German Bieksa money. Now he can go be mad somewhere else. So...it seems we need a top 4 defenceman....or not?
Mike Gillis said today: "I think Keith Ballard is going to be a good player for us next year," Gillis said. "I think Chris Tanev can step up and play more minutes and have a more active role. Sami Salo we'll have for all of next season hopefully, not what we just had. We'll take it as it comes. I'm not sure if there will be a defenseman out there that can help us. We'll see what's available."
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Might be waiting on the results of the Ehrhoff negotiations when it comes to Alberts, but it doesn’t look too good for those 3.
Mildly surprised that they aren’t interest in retaining Glass after all the 4th line issues from last year, although I’m certainly not crushed by the fact that it doesn’t look like he’ll be back.
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I'd miss Rypien beating the crap out of other hockey players, but that's all.
Not surprised or upset at the news.
Work hard, play harder, rest easy.
same for me.
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Seeing as how the landscape is, I think Ehrhoff gets done, maybe even 4.7-4.8M, but 3-4 years, no clauses.
Everyone seems to be getting signed for higher than our expectations.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 28, 2011 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Also, possible, but that’s kinda why I said no clauses. Personally, I really think Ballard/Tanev is a solid enough 3rd pairing that i’d go into the playoffs with.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 28, 2011 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
So down on Ballard right now.
Pair Tanev with Edler, sink or swim him! He played in the Stanley Cup final, I bet he’ll swim.
Gives Eddie a right hand shot., plus I bit it ends up a solid two way pairing.
I prefer to believe he’s still a top-4 guy, and given an entire off-season to heal, recuperate and a full training camp, he’ll be fine.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 28, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
agreed. We were also so down on Juice as well same time last year, as an organization in salary cap era, the higher$ players must play bigger roles, or they must leave. To do that, they got to get the chance to reset and I think Ballard is going to be for us what juice for us was last year.
by nucklinBadger on Jun 28, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
If they sign Ehrhoff
For 4.7-4.8 they’ll probably have to
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YAY!!
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 28, 2011 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I know
I mean, what am I supposed to do with this t-shirt now?
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be happy the proceeds went to charity?
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 28, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
I am!
I’m just practicing being cynical, so someday I can be a real fan. :)
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Well then you already are one! :)
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 28, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Just kidding. That was for a good cause.
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 28, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
well...
glass is about as average a 4th liner as it gets. better than some (hordichuck), worse than some (lappy obviously) so he can be easily replaced.
i like rypien but obviously this team has no room for him.
i also like alberts but he might be out of our price range.
So right now we've got
Oreskovich-Lapierre- OPEN
As the fourth line. That’s a pretty good starting point, I’d say
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I’m hoping that’s Torres in the last spot.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 28, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
Him, or Talbot or Rupp, maybe?
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Although any of those 3 guys will cost at least 1.25, I would expect, possibly more for Talbot?
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 28, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Dropping Glass and Rypien in favor of Oreo and Lappy at least means we have a fourth line that can score.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 28, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
And can still hit hard
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Amen to both!
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 28, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
$1m or less is my hope
Someone who can give us 7-10 minutes for a million or less. Don’t see much point in spending much more there.
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Good start
but the 4th line needs a Chris Neil or a Shawn Thornton type. Playoffs proved that the refs aren’t going to protect the Sedins and they can’t go on taking that kind of abuse.
I still wish we went after Neil at the trade deadline, I really think he could have helped us win the cup.
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I don't agree
What burned us in the finals, and the reason the Bruins kept abusing the Sedins was because the power play couldn’t score. If you can’t score on the power play there’s no deterrent and the Marchand types will keep doing what they do.
We don’t need a goon around to “protect” them. How did that work for the Hawks with Scott, or the Sharks with Eager?
Scoring on the power play is enough of a protector, and it failed.
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I agree and disagree. Would love a guy like Konopka who could play that 4th line role, win faceoffs, and punch Marchand’s face in when necessary.
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Never can have too many C's that can also play W.
Not to mention the fact, we’d almost certainly get Konopka for a million or less.
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I love Zenon for the same reason
Semi is totally right. The PP plays even half as good stats wise as we know they are, and the Bruins are bemoaning how the refs screwed them out of s Cup.
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I didn't say we need a goon
Neil and Thornton play a role and are respected around the league, Eager and Scott are a joke.
The Bruins plan was to go after the Sedins whether the PP worked or not, we need a physical deterrent on the squad, just like every town needs a sheriff.
Every opponent the Nucks faced in the playoffs went after the twins and the physical pounding took its toll as the playoffs progressed which probably had a lot to do with their performance in the finals. By game 7 the Sedins and most of the team was too beat up to compete anymore. A good powerplay and a legit tough guy would be a better deterrent in my opinion.
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Gillis will add some toughness
Since when is having a tough guy, who can play, on your 4th line such a bad thing?
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I agree with what thegreek is saying. Sure, burn the fukkers on the PP but if that is failing they gotta produce 5 on 5. I’m still down with a bigger body with the Twins and Burr down to line 2..or at least having that option. If teams don’t hone in on the Twins all next season I will be surprised at their stupidity.
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 28, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree with both
The thing is, we saw teams in the playoffs, and all regular season, change the way they played because the PP wiped them out.
Teams will always play that way against the Sedins, the white erase board always say “play physical” against them. Its nothing new.. But like I said above, even a modicum of success on the PP would have made a difference.
It works. AV is right that it is a deterrent. Just sometimes you need the Nu_Cle_Er option as well.
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Finding a tough guy who can play is great
But they are rare gems.
by Canuckelhead on Jun 28, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ll take Joel Perrault for 1000 Alex
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 28, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Sorry, Joel WARD.
My bad
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 28, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I like Thornton...
…And would give him some of the credit for turning the series around. His energy wasn’t met by the Canucks.
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Brooks laich signed
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from HOF candidate article
Joining Belfour as a first-time candidate is former Vancouver captain Trevor Linden, who played 19 seasons in the NHL and scored 867 points.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=567522&navid=DL|NHL|home
new inductees to be announced officially this afternoon.
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don’t want to hear one peep from zandberg on this one (though I expect I will). Linden is a legendary human being.
I totally agree with Linden!
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 28, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Just…not ahead of Gilmour
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 28, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=370254
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Oreskovich and Lappy
are proven playoff performers.
I like Glass, but he was invisible. :(
Exactly
Glass needed a little more grit so we would see him in the playoffs.
by Canuckelhead on Jun 28, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
bahaha
that made me LOL.
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by Canuckelhead on Jun 28, 2011 11:31 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
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Unless there’s a new development, looks as though Christian Ehrhoff is headed to UFA on July 1. VAN reportedly offered him Bieksa $$$.
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It’s believed VAN is now asking other NHL teams if they have interest in acquiring Ehrhoff’s negotiating rights prior to July 1.
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thanks for the updates, Semi. I added it to the post
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 28, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
also
sorry stalker ehrhoff fan, but fuckin yay!
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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 28, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I will say this:
We’ll probably miss him on the PP. But 5M is too much to spend on a guy that only excels on the powerplay
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5 million is too much for us to spend
But for all his faults he does a lot more than just play well on the pp. He’s a great skater, he makes a crisp first pass and he’s not as horrendous defensivly as some of you make him out to be. He’s a player and someone will give him at least 5 million because of it. In this free agent market he deserves it, regardless of the bias some of you have against him.
by Canuckelhead on Jun 28, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Damn
I don’t always agree with you my friend, but a 100% rec’d. You have to understand though, he picked up the residual “fucking defensive amateur” shit that used to be hurled at Juice.
Had to go somewhere. lol
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Hey..Bieksa deserved a shitload more too but he stuck with us for less because he wants to win here. Ehrhoff’s commitment is justifiably questioned by me! He deserves more than what GMMG offered, yes. So he can piss off and make his extra 2 million somewhere else. Thanks for the good times and the efforts…now get outta here!
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 28, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
ya drunken german!
with beautiful lips.
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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 28, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I get both sides.
I’d be happy with him back, b/c I think he can be better in his own end. Honestly?
I think his game would be better in the East. Because I want to see him less in the West…
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I hope some dumbass team gives him Campbell money so I can laugh my ass off at them. He’s a poor man’s Mike Green.
florida’s been taken by Campbell… so.. Long Island?
by nucklinBadger on Jun 28, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't know why yay
You all might have an easy time finding his faults but he’s a hell of a 4th dman. Probably off to be a #2 for a butt load of money.
by Canuckelhead on Jun 28, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
The boatload of money
Is the issue. We don’t have that kind of money for someone who would be on the second pairing
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I agree
But him leaving is not reason to celebrate. We just got a whole lot thinner on D.
by Canuckelhead on Jun 28, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Sure
but if you open the vault for Erhoff it would not leave enough cap space to sign Edler next year. Tanev is ready and Ballard can replace Erhoff I think we’ll be OK without him and use the cap space to bolster the top 6 forwards.
Bieksa Hamhuis
Edler Ballard
Salo Tanev
Rome
Parent, Sauve and Connauton on the farm for call-ups
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I wonder about Sauve
He was a second round pick. Had a great final year of junior. Played at all three levels in his first season of pro hockey and looked good in some time in the NHL. He has a lot of ability. I just wonder if the year of pro hockey under his belt will be enough for him to be a fringe guy this year. Will he push for a spot in camp? Or does he need another year or two in the AHL.?
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by Section 312 on Jun 28, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
it's a question of
expectations vs reality. also of playing to potential, cuz we’ve seen the potential. I’ll not miss his ever present defensive brainfarts, tho i may miss his scoring.
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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 28, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
He was good durring the regular season but hit and miss durring the playoofs. Mostly miss…..
by chillinwatook on Jun 28, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
My reaction
I said it yesterday too: I’ll take fewer offensive points from the blueline for someone who can clear Bergeron and whoever else from in front of the fucking net and not routinely blow assignments. GMMG made the right choice: keep the top pairing at all costs, shop around to replace Hoff if the money is available otherwise work the phones or have a tremendous heart to heart with Ballard.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 28, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
You are on a roll today. I couldn’t agree more!
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 28, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Yep
My thoughts as well.
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Indeed. I’m not jumping for joy, but in today’s NHL Ehrhoff is about to be paid like a 1st unit d-man and he’s simply not that. A Cup contending team can’t afford that.
Was nice to have him for a couple years at 3.1 to be on the 2nd pairing, but I do not envy the team about to pay him upwards of 5.5-6m/yr.
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Agreed
Get a solid stay at home Dman to play with Ballard. Give Ballard a little freedom to use his skating / offensive ability and see what happens.
by Canucks1619 on Jun 28, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Tanev-Ballard, Edler-Salo/Rome, and maybe Alberts if he takes the same price as last season.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 28, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I like Ballard and Tanev, Edler and Salo. If Salo doesn`t come back we will need to find someone else. Alberts and Rome are good 7th or depth guys but I would want a better top 4 option with Edler.
by Canucks1619 on Jun 28, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Salo
Will be back. I’d be very surprised if he wasn’t, especially if Ehrhoff walks
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I think he will be too. Nice to have a backup plan though.
by Canucks1619 on Jun 28, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
We definitely need Salo, in that case.
Especially, since we know that we will lose a few defensemen, due to injuries. I don’t see Hamhuis having a full season, given the history last year.
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That was the first year
Hamhuis missed any major time
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 28, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
We definitely know Salo won’t go through a full season. I mentioned Salo/Rome, because I fully expect them to split games.
Salo should not play any back-to-back under any circumstances, and should be playing only around 50 games, and hopefully all of the playoffs.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 28, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 28, 2011 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions
If Ehrhoff
Was the only guy driving the transition game, it wasn’t much of a transition game to begin with
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by Section 312 on Jun 28, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Goes the dynamite!
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 28, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
He's obviously really useful in transition
But if an error prone 2nd pairing Dman is the linchpin of the entire game plan, I think the game plan needs re-evaluation
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Yeah…transition and then getting caught pinching at times! Bad times. I bash Error but he sure had a lot of good moments. I’ll make a fair farewell post for him if he departs.
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 28, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn't be surprised
if he ends up with the Kings.
I know that Detroit is also looking for offensive D, but I don’t think that Holland likes to pay too much either.
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LA? They already have a Errorhoff in Jack Johnson…. That kid has a horrific +/-…. isn’t that like a younger Ehrhoff?
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 28, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah,
but they have a lot of trouble scoring. They seriously need all the scoring touch they can get.
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At the cost of having a sieve to protect Quick/Bernier? There’s only 1 Big Willie to bail out Doughty, they don’t have other defensive options to cover for Johnson.
Also, the Richards deal should really help them with scoring, and they still have some caproom to play with, right?
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 28, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Bail out Doughty?
Really?
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by Section 312 on Jun 28, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t mean bail him out as in he’s a liability, but Doughty gets the green light since Willie is there to cover up behind him, no?
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 28, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe
but Doughty could probably jump into the rush and be the first one back if he wanted. He’s that good.
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by Section 312 on Jun 28, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Indeed
A “disappointing” year from Doughty was still good enough to be one of the better d-men in the league. I expect he’ll be Canada’s 2nd best blueliner in 2014 after Weber.
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I am not sure about all the rankings
but Doughty is a Norris level D men and will be for years and years and years.
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by Section 312 on Jun 28, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I fully expect him to be one of the first names on that 2014 roster.
Weber, Doughty, Seabrook, Keith, Letang, Marc Staal? Damn….
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 28, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Doughty is a fair shade better than Weber.
by Passive Voice on Jun 28, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes… That.. I remember watching on the highlights more than once last season.
No, I wasn’t being disparaging on Doughty. I still haven’t forgotten my man-crush on him.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 28, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
If he's going to the kings
Trade his negotiating rights and Raymond for Mitchell
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raymond is injured right now and we don’t know how his injury has affected him. Also, he’s only a season removed from scoring 25 goals as a 20 something year old. Mitchell is also a UFA at the end of the year and very old. I doubt another shut down d-man is what GMMG is looking for.
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Well then
Guess its Weber or Doughty or bust :P
Mitchell’s age wont be a factor that guy’s physical condition is unquestionable. I guess if you want an offensive defensemen you could go after Byufglien I hear he can find the net.
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He’s a $3.25 million price tag
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 28, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
If he gets bought out...
He’s still young and could be retooled
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you sure didn’t on Twitter…..
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 28, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey maybe we should replace Error with Jovo!
JOVO! JOVO! JOVO!
Phoenix turned him into a better defensive defenceman didn’t they? :)
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Yes
he may have matured enough to cut down on risky plays. I am sure the fan would receive him with open arms.
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How much will he be asking for?…. Am I insane for seriously contemplating this?
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 28, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
He's 35
Just came off a pretty nice contract. He might take a huge cut to come back and be on a contender
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2M/yr?
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 28, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I like the idea, just not sure where he fits. Do you play him over Tanev? Rome? Ballard?
He’s probably not necessary, but it would be a good story.
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Ya, at this point, you’ll play him over Tanev, probably, although Ballard/Jovo is a scary thought.
Or perhaps Edler/Ballard, Salo/Jovo.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 28, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
hahaha
Let’s trade for Bertuzzi while we’re at it! And bring back BMo! Get the band back together!
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B’Mo where?! our third line is set, if he takes 850k 1 way, to play on the 4th line, that’s not too bad. He’s definitely better than Tambo.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 28, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Personally, I want a better physical presence on the 4th line with Reskie and Lappy.
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Tambo hits a bit better I guess, but you can’t justify putting BMo on the second line either… so in short, no chance for BMo’s return.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 28, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s definitely better than Tambo.
Probably so. But Tambo deserves another chance, he was so good at the beginning of last season.
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Tambo? He’s 28, a vet and fringe NHL-er.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 28, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, sorry
I had no idea about his age. I thought he is much younger.
In that case, I tend to agree with Wisp.
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haha.. no worries =) It’s not that surprising… he was plucked from the Islanders…. do they even PLAY hockey?
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 28, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
This story in the Province
Detroit, which just lost Brian Rafalski to retirement, springs to mind. So does Chicago, which just dumped Brian Campbell’s ludicrous $7.1-cap hit. Or Minnesota, who could use Ehrhoff now that they’ve moved Brent Burns in the Devin Setoguchi deal. And Colorado, which just traded offensive D-man John-Michael Liles, and needs to spend big just to get to the salary cap floor.
Read more: http://www.theprovince.com/sports/Will+Ehrhoff+stay/5014189/story.html#ixzz1QbGB2kFZ
I don’t fucking like some of those destinations he brings up. Though, if he is as bad as everyone seems to think he is defensively, maybe we want him to go there!
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Oh pretty please
End up in Colorado.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 28, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
But,
I thought they needed defensemen….. why would they sign Ehrhoff?
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 28, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Because any GM is going to focus on his points if they’re going to pony more than $5 million a year.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 28, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Well… if they can live with JML at 4M… they might just be okay with Ehrhoff at 6.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 28, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
If Hoff wants to go from the top of the league to the bottom because the money was right, by all means. I hope his partner has Xanex.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 28, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
This
is the bigger problem. Not only will WE lose Ehrhoff, but one of our key rivals, probably Detroit, will get him.
Until he turns the puck over
right to a Sedin for a big goal. Then it will be awesome.
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by Section 312 on Jun 28, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
sometimes I wonder about the Agent\Player relationship
like, if the agent is gung ho and getting money, or is it the player, or are they working together?
I guess the point is Ehrhoff shitting his pants because negotiations failed and Vancouver is suddenly trying to trade him
Well, technically, the player should win out every time. ie: Bieksa probably left 1 year, an extra .5-1M/ year on the board by skipping FA. That’s pretty lucrative from the agent’s perspective.
But why would Ehrhoff be worried? Unless he really wanted to stay, and if he did, he would have taken the same deal Bieksa got.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 28, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Why would he care? Trade his rights and like Hamhuis last year he can stroll into FA at his own will.
Ehrhoff has spent his whole life waiting for the one moment where he can cash out playing the game he loves. Good for him, but the potential bidding war for his services will silence some of his faults. Someone is going to get a false bill of goods next week.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 28, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
That's the thing
with Ehrhoff, this may be his last chance to get big money. I don’t really blame him.
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Me neither
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 28, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
On the other hand
he could get a one-year-deal from Van, just to have another shot at the Cup, and if it doesn’t work out, he could take the money next year.
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Ala Hossa?
Not sure the Canucks have the cap space for that either. Pretty sure Ehrhoff is going to get a deal that is going to supercede anything we could offer.
And there’s limited incentive for him to do that anyways, I think. What if he gets hurt, or sucks?
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Right.
I am trying to imagine myself being in the position to tell myself that 4.5 million is somehow not enough. “I need that extra 0.5 million at all costs, even if I have to play in Florida for the rest of my life” Somehow, it doesn’t sound right.
On the other hand, living the high life in Beverly Hills, now that may just be good enough for the half mil.
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But the problem
with living in such a market, is that he will spend that extra 0.5 mil in a New York minute, and ends up with less at the end.
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lol yeah
I mean I guess I can kind of see where if you can get more why not but imo 4.5mil for 5 years is a damn good payday
but then I have no desire to live the high life lol. I want enough money to be comfortable sure but even if I were to say win like 50mil in the lottery I still wouldn’t go crazy lol.
no, I get it. my imagination is at it, imagining a situation of the agent saying “Don’t worry Christian, I’ll play hard ball with Vancouver to get you the money your deserve.”
and then Mike Gillis is like, “I don’t play hard ball.”
if Hoff is in it for the money, then I’d rather see him go. Not Canuck-worthy.
Agents work for the player
so if the agent is playing hardball it is cause Ehrhoff wants to get paid or doesn’t have the balls to tell his agent what he really thinks. Either way I don’t want him in that case.
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by Section 312 on Jun 28, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t disagree.
I do find it kinda funny that we are all (or more or less all) pretty content to let a 50 point blueliner on the right side of 30 leave for nothing, and we aren’t too worried about it hurting us too much next year.
Shows that GMMG has done an excellent job, in my books.
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Could it be
that some European players don’t care as much about winning the Cup as North American players do? I know they all want to win, but growing up as a kid in Europe, one may not have such an exposure to the Stanley Cup as we do over here.
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If that’s true, then every FA should all sign 1M/yr offers and come play the previous champion. I think there’s a lot of things that go into what the players want. For one, I’m sure pride has a lot to do with it. They all want to be respected, to be paid what they’re worth, and also for financial security. You might think 1M is nothing to laugh at, but at the same time, their knees can give way at any point during a season, and basically that’s 25 years of hard-work that disappears right in front of your eyes.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 28, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
If you made 70K a year
it would take 14 years to make a million bucks. If a guy makes even 4 million in his career before injury he has more money than most people will ever make in their whole lives. Not to mention the insurance pay outs they would get if their career ended. And NHL pension if they played enough games. So I don’t think that extra million is really making that much of a difference in the grand scheme of things.
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by Section 312 on Jun 28, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
there's certainly a cultural aspect, tho
Kids in sweden dream of winning Olympic gold medals.
I don’t think that the Sedins are less the driven then, say, Kesler, though.
For what it is worth
Caring about winning the Cup is getting shot up before every game past the one he got injured in vs SJ.
He cared just fine.
I’m OK with the guy taking his opportunity, some players only get one chance to cash in.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 28, 2011 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Ehrhoff leaving means cap space which means a more interesting offseason for us fans!
Completely support GMMG’s logical plan to offer Ehrhoff the same as Bieksa, the point is balanced salaries to permit a better overall team.
The week leading up to the FA opening
and the first week of the FA market is like a feeding frenzy. Teams are out-bidding each other for the hot players. We could be disappointed, but GMMG may want to avoid these couple of weeks, if he wants to hold on to his money.
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Edler = better than Ehrhoff. I think Edler has the potential for 40 points, but with Bieksa like physical side.
I really think the high-end projection for Edler is a Bieksa/Ehrhoff hybrid, or a Suter-lite.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 28, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
The high end projection
for Edler is better than Suter-lite. It might even be better than Suter.
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by Section 312 on Jun 28, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Edler was on pace for a 53 point season with something like 15 goals… Plus he’s only 25
by kiyotok on Jun 28, 2011 5:37 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
The biggest reason not to make long term commitments to Ehrhoff is Edler
Edler is the player you make long term commitments too.
Yes
If you give Ehrhoff 4-5 years at 4.7 or so, you have 3 guys at 4.5 or higher. And Edler is going to command similar numbers and a long term.
And who the hell knows what is going to happen with the cap after the new CBA. I highly doubt it’s going to continue to spiral upwards by 4 mil a year
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Wow
Gillis on Ehrhoff: “Playing on this team is more important than individual compensation.”
He be pissed
It's a bullshit sentiment.
These guys have a short shelf-life, and career-ending injury is always a possibility.
They have to make as much money as they can while they’re young and healthy if they want a comfortable life.
The idea that every player has to value the shot at a Stanley Cup over the comfort of themselves and their families is bullshit.
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A comfortable life?
That’s a joke right? Ehrhoff has already made what? 8-10 million dollars in his career? He has already made more money in his career than probably 95% of the world’s population will make in their lives. He can afford to take less and still be “comfortable”. Just for some context, 10 million dollars is 50 years of 200,000 dollars a year. You can live pretty comfortably on 200,000 dollars a year.
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by Section 312 on Jun 28, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Well we all know how much you would ask from the Canucks...
…if you were a pro hockey player. No more than 200,000 per year.
But some want to maximize the amount of money they make in the, what, maybe 20 years they work. And of that 20 years, how much of it comes at their absolute peak, where they can demand top dollar? Maybe 5 years?
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Well what I am saying is that
the difference between 4.5 and 6 million isn’t going to make much of a difference to the comfort of Ehrhoff’s life nor his families. So to make it seem like he is asking for the most money possible so he can be “comfortable” when he is probably already set for life is preposterous. If he wants to get paid cause he thinks he is worth it or even just pure greed I have no problem with it. Not even a little bit. But you trying to sell that tripe about comfort I have a problem with.
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by Section 312 on Jun 28, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
My guess is Gillis isn't offering 4.5
I’m guessing he’s offering 3.5, cause he just offered Bieksa 4.5 and Erhoff is considered a 2nd line guy.
Considering Ballard is getting 4.2 mil, I would be surprised if he wanted to spend 4 mil on another defensemen.
But we’ll see.
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I would be very
surprised if Gillis’ offer was that low. Very surprised.
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by Section 312 on Jun 28, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
He's a second-line D at best on this team
Plus, Edler is getting more offensive every year.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they felt they didn’t need Erhoff anymore, especially at a salary over 4 mil.
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Gillis said they offered
a contract that was ‘fair’ and I don’t think he would say that if he offered something that low.
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by Section 312 on Jun 28, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
And some want to win, and fulfill childhood dreams of being stanely cup champions, so they’ll take a little less to be a contender
and some want what’s right for their family, to raise their children in the city with a good quality of life for their wives and children.
And some want to cash in. More power to them.
But Gillis wants to win, so who do you think he wants? I get the Hawk guys don’t like Gillis for things he’s said, but he’s a very competent GM and he knows the qualities to look for.
I don't have a problem with that.
But saying ‘being on this team is more important than individual compensation’ is a pretty broad statement about priorities and ethics.
I don’t put one about the other. Whatever the player values, so be it. It’s his talent, and his choice to do what he wants with it.
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I'm not sure about it.
bq. You can live pretty comfortably on 200,000 dollars a year.
May be because we live in L. A., but we can barely get by with the above money.
(I am not kidding)
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I know. We should.
We ARE comfortable, but there is not much left for retirement. So, I just have to work until I drop.
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I've lived in Pasadena
as well as La Crescenta, and a couple of other areas around Los Angeles. If you have kids that you want to go to a decent school, and you don’t want to drive more than an hour each day to work, this is what it costs for that area (if you’re putting the appropriate amount of money into savings & retirement like Attila says).
Vancouver is just as expensive at its core, but the prices drop off much faster than they do in LA as you move away from the centers of business.
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Yep,
you got it.
And we have 2 kids, of course. If I had that money just for myself, it would be more than enough.
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wow I am surprised but maybe it is location. I know my parents made less than half of that (combined) and we were more than comfortable and they have no debt at all (and dad retired with about 750k saved up) . Never wanted for anything, though they also never spent frivolously (lmao both of their TVs are over 15yrs old but they won’t get a new one until one of them stops working).
dad has always been good with money though and I think he made some ok investments.
This is a great opportunity to illustrate for you young'uns the nature of global inequality.
You wrote:
8-10 million dollars in his career? He has already made more money in his career than probably 95% of the world’s population will make in their lives.
That’s true, but that statement doesn’t even get close to demonstrating the level of contemporary global inequality.
If you make $50K a year in income, you make more money than 99% of the world’s population. If you live (or were born) in the developed world, you’ve already won the global income lottery game.
by east_van_joe on Jun 28, 2011 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
that is true. Sad but true. Though 8-10million in his entire career would probably be more than almost 95% of the developed world also.
Though being a single woman with no kids I could live quite comfortably on 50k a year, which is good because that will likely be my starting salary when I finally find a job lmao
I make slightly less than
40K a year and live quite well. But I am single and since I quit drinking I have lots more money lying around. If I had kids though and had any desire to own my own home it would be a different story.
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by Section 312 on Jun 28, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
lol that is true I also almost never drink (doesn’t agree with my stomach in the last 8 years or so and I pretty much stopped except maybe 2-3 times a year lol)
and it is true I don’t own a house but at this point I am ok with that and will be for a while – maybe if I am married with kids then I might think about owning a house :)
I would love to have
something to putter around and work on on weekends. Nothing more relaxing than working outside on garden/repairs. But I have no desire to own a house right now. Not where I live.
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by Section 312 on Jun 28, 2011 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
lol I hate puttering around a yard I need to find a guy that does to marry I think lmfao. I like being outside but hate gardening (would rather be hiking or something)
Are you flirting with me?
And if not could you please.
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by Section 312 on Jun 28, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
It would greatly help
with my self esteem!!!!
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by Section 312 on Jun 28, 2011 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I figured 95%
was way low. But when you are making up stats it is best to not go over board.
Sad doesn’t even begin to describe it really.
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by Section 312 on Jun 28, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
The irony of the wealthy pro athlete..
Once upon a time Sandy Koufax and Don Drysdale, two of the all time great pitchers, held what was basically a sit down strike until the LA Dodgers honored their demand to be each paid 100 grand for the season.
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by Bobby Canuck on Jun 28, 2011 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
you’re wrong.
And the sentiment works. Has been working since Gillis took over as GM.
We don't know how much Erhoff wants or Gillis is offering.
We’ve only seen players take small hair-cuts on pay.
5 mil down to 4.5 (Bieksa), or 6 mil to 5 mil (Kess), or 7 mil to 6 mil (Sedins).
Luongo went for big money/term, Burrows wasn’t going to get more on the market than he got from Gillis (he would probably be worth more now), and Raymond went to arbitration didn’t he? So obviously he wanted more than was offered.
Blackhawks bleed Red & White.
We are all Canucks...including Toews, Sharp, Keith, Seabrook, ...need I go on?
Hoff was 4.6 million
what Bieksa was offered.
Luongo was a special case. He saw having a goaltender like Luongo signed for a long term as something that made the organization more attractive as a free agent destination – that goaltending would always be taken care of. In a sense he’s right, though I think that may be one thing that backfired.
Burrows?
The guy signed for 2 mil per for 4 years. He gave up a fair amount by going for that term.
Pretty good for a 1st line guy
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How many other
30 goal scorers make 2 mill a year?
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 28, 2011 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Kulemin
"I prematurely shot my wad on what was supposed to be a dry run, if you will, so now I'm afraid i have something of a mess on my hands."
"There's just so many poorly chosen words in that sentence."
How many did it when they were signed for 3 more at 2 mil?
Bueller? lol
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That quote may be out of context, but I don’t like it. He just sounds bitter. No comment next time, Mike.
by Passive Voice on Jun 28, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I felt the same way.
I understand the sentiment, but it comes out like a spurned lover.
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We are all Canucks...including Toews, Sharp, Keith, Seabrook, ...need I go on?
I love how you admit
it may be out of context but you judge it anyway.
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by Section 312 on Jun 28, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
If it’s outta context, I’ll change my opinion.
by Passive Voice on Jun 28, 2011 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
not sure who this writer is, but....
dcmahiban Dhiren Mahiban
#Canucks have qualified RFA Sergei Shirokov
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#Canucks Lee Sweatt, Mario Bliznak & Rick Rypien all free to walk on July 1
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I thought Shark had to be qualified YESTERDAY…..
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 28, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Gillis on needing a D if Ehrhoff goes: “Not necessarily. Keith Ballard is going to be a good player next year. Chris Tanev can step up.”
I hope Keith can bounce back next season.
I also like the faith he’s showing in Tanev. I really think Edler+Tanev can be our top d-pairing one day.
Ironically...
….if Vancouver can’t get a deal done with Erhoff, Chicago might be interested in him to fill the hole left by Brian Campbell.
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Haha, true enough.
But I think even a 4-5 mil paycheck would still be seen by some of the hack writers (and dumber fans) as an improvement over Soupy.
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I'd laugh if Chicago got Ehrhoff.
He may be a good fit, but they need to extend Sharp and not turn left directly into Cap Hell again.
Unless Tallon is gonna take Huet off their hands too?
Work hard, play harder, rest easy.
Huet is buried in the minors.
He isn’t even a cap hit, hasn’t been for a year.
Hawks have… 14 mil in cap space right now, I think.
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he’s still costs the organization money. blackhawks posted profit losses last year, getting him to florida would help.
Profit losses
Not gross losses. They still made an insane profit.
Nobody is taking Huet, I think they’ve come to terms with the fact that they blew 5 mill per year for that decision.
Consider it a cost of winning the cup, hahaha.
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We are all Canucks...including Toews, Sharp, Keith, Seabrook, ...need I go on?
At last report he still hadn't been mailed his Stanley Cup ring
Hahahaha
Blackhawks bleed Red & White.
We are all Canucks...including Toews, Sharp, Keith, Seabrook, ...need I go on?
If I was him, I'd feel awkward having one
wouldn’t care.
His backup isn't getting paid 5mil
And it’s Rask, for the record.
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thought it was rask wasnt sure tho
im not so concerned with the amount he was making, more that he had his job taken by thomas much like niemi took huet spot. and the idea of feeling awkward for getting a SC ring when you played for the stanley cup champs
Jobs don’t get taken in the NHL. You play better than the other guy. Also, if you do think Rask got his job taken away, then Rask took away from Thomas a year prior.
by sunshine and lollipops on Jun 28, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Sounded like you thought his job was stolen, that’s all.
by sunshine and lollipops on Jun 28, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
sorry
he was out played for his job. just found the comment about huet not having his cup right yet as a funny thing, not so funny.
I'm sure he got it eventually
Just hadn’t at the last time he was asked…
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Really? I thought exiling him to Switzerland only worked for one year.
I thought there was something he counted against this year for some reason.
Work hard, play harder, rest easy.
Nope
If they’re not playing, they’re not on the cap, from what I understand. Hawks still have to pay the salary though.
Oh, and they’ve kicked Kopecky out too, so that frees up more money too. Sharp will get is 5.5-mill payday…and it might be another (the 3rd) life-time contract.
But I don’t mind giving Sharpie a home til he retires. He’s a warrior.
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It does
Probably just papereork, but he has to be waived through the league again, and is technically part of the Cap again until that happens.
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Is Hjamarsson more of the "stay at home" type or the offensive D-man variety?
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Stay at home.
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Probably akin to Douglas Murray lite.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 28, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
All I can say is
good job GMMG. I don’t want Ehrhoff back. Sure, he can put up the points, but his coverage is fucking amateur. Get him out of here.
Nah, he's a good puck-moving defensemen
He’s good at getting the puck out of the zone and to the offense, and he can join the rush to put extra pressure on the other team’s defense.
The issue is that Edler provides a lot of the same, and we’ll definitely want to sign him.
So I wouldn’t be surprised if they let Erhoff go.
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I don't want him gone
He provides skills we could use. Just his contract is not going to be justifiable given what else we need to fill and what we have to make room for coming up.
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by Semi_Colon on Jun 28, 2011 3:17 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
And Gillis
Isn’t sending him out the door. He wants him to stay too- at Bieksa money
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
by Semi_Colon on Jun 28, 2011 3:18 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I think Ehrhoff sees he's the best of a meh bunch and wants to cash in accordingly.
I can’t blame him, but he can get that payday with Detroit or a team with cap floor issues.
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That he's looking more at the money and not the Cup?
Obviously we’re all spitballing here. We don’t know for certain what Gillis offered, or what Hoff’s thinking is.
Just going off of what we’ve heard though? (That Gillis offered ~Bieksa/Hamhuis $$$ and Ehrhoff said no) I’d think that he’s looking at 5M+/year, and that’s more than I’d be willing to pay.
If he does hit the market Detroit makes a lot of sense – money to throw and a not insignificant chance at the Cup.
Work hard, play harder, rest easy.
I'm saying the assumption that he thinks he's better then the rest of the D
is a very irresponsible assumption.
that said, I think he realizes as a 50 point d-man, he’s a rare commodity.
He meant a 'meh' bunch of UFAs
As in, better than the rest of the D-men on the market.
Not the best f the Canucks… although maybe he thinks so too.
Athletes always think they’re the best.
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We are all Canucks...including Toews, Sharp, Keith, Seabrook, ...need I go on?
I have been talking about Montador
for weeks now. That would be a great signing.
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by Section 312 on Jun 28, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
while Ehr is busy making as sad
Here’s some feel good quotes of a loyal, awesome, true-blue Canuck.
“I never really thought about leaving Vancouver. If the opportunity was here for me to come back, I was going to do everything I could to make it happen. My family is very happy in Vancouver and I’ve been here my whole career. I don’t think there’s many cities in North America that can beat Vancouver.”
“I’m sorry to all the media members out there, specifically TSN, that’s made a living on some of these rumors the last couple summers,” Bieksa cracked. “All joking aside, I’m going to be here for five years and I’ll do my best to help this team win.”
“I probably didn’t make his job the easiest,” Bieksa said. “At the end of the day, I told everybody it wasn’t about money. That wasn’t a determining factor. I probably made his job a lot harder. But I think it was a pretty easy deal to get done and we got it done pretty quickly.”
Juice is win
so glad he’s here for 5 more years.
Pretty sure I’d be laughing my ass off if I knew I’d say that a year ago though.
well now
TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
VAN trades Christian Ehrhoff’s negotiating rights to NYI for a 4th round pick.
lol
Well, this seems like a punishment.
“Don’t want to play ball, huh? Now you gotta talk to Garth Snow for three days.”
A 4th? That's pretty good.
I wonder what Garth will throw at him?
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If they throw $Campbell at him, I would think so.
Otherwise, I have to think Ehrhoff will hit the market.
Work hard, play harder, rest easy.
lighthouse are talking about Snow should offer 4.5mil for 4 years lol
that is supposedly close to what he turned down
if he doesn’t take it from us… there’s NO way he takes the Islanders offer instead… right?
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 28, 2011 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
wow
Well that’s interesting. Probably not where Ehrhoff was hoping to go, haha.
Gonna miss Ehrhoff! Now let’s go and replace him with Wisnewski, thanks.
he doesn't have to do anything with them
When Garth Snow calls he can just go “Lalalalalalala I can’t hear you, is it July 1st yet?”
I think it actually is a good move for the Islanders to try and get a word in before the flood gates open. “Listen, we’re rebuilding, we have a lot of young talent here, we’re ready to make a push, please give us a shot.”
no I know
but I’m sure he would’ve preferred a trade to somewhere along the lines of Detroit or Tampa nonetheless.
If the Isles can actually get Ehrhoff to listen and offer him good money, it’d definitely be a good trade for them, no doubt. I just doubt Ehrhoff’s gonna sign with the Isles after turning down the President’s Trophy winners for a reasonable contract.
But if the Isles do get Ehrhoff, their D-core starts looking pretty damn good – Streit and Ehrhoff on the top pairing with Harmonic, de Haan and Macdonald in the pipeline.
The "In Ur Base, Snipin Ur Eastern Playerz" rosterbation
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR
FORWARDS
Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Mikael Samuelsson ($2.500m)
Alexandre Burrows ($2.000m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Jakub Voracek ($2.600m)
Tyler Kennedy ($2.500m) / Manny Malhotra ($2.500m) / Jannik Hansen ($1.300m)
Victor Oreskovich ($0.800m) / Maxim Lapierre ($1.000m) / Raffi Torres ($1.000m)
Mason Raymond ($2.550m) [LTIR replacement: Cody Hodgson ($1.666m)]
DEFENSEMEN
Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m) / Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m)
Sami Salo ($2.500m) / Alexander Edler ($3.250m)
Keith Ballard ($4.200m) / Steve Montador ($1.800m)
Aaron Rome ($0.750m)
GOALTENDERS
Roberto Luongo ($5.333m) / Cory Schneider ($0.900m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,783,333; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $516,667
I’m assuming MayRay will be LTIR until November/December (the payroll still reflects MayRay’s salary though) and CoHo or other Joe RandomGuy takes his spot until he comes back.
Also Voracek is high, but it has to be to force Philly to make some hard decisions.
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I am not sure
you could get Montador for that cheap.
But if we do I will dance a jig in the streets. After learning how exactly to dance a jig.
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by Section 312 on Jun 28, 2011 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Excellent news
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by Section 312 on Jun 28, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
He was on a 3.1M contract last year
I doubt he goes for less than 3.5M
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Offer him 2.5
to come here and try to win a cup. If he ain’t down we move on.
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by Section 312 on Jun 29, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Well that’s mostly because he’s from here… that’s where most of those rumours come from. There was a rumour 2 years ago Shaone Morrisonn was gonna sign here; not-so-coincidentally, he is also from here. Of course that may be a reason he wants to come here but from what I’ve heard it’s pure speculation.
Then there was also
That rumour last off season about Hamhuis going to San Jose. I remember the source being pretty adamant on it…
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
not what he said
#Canucks fans – keep this name in mind July1: Steve Montador. Big, physical, shoots right, Vancouver born, agent has expressed past interest
Key word there being agent. That was pure speculation on Angus’ part (though it does make sense).
I know
I was just taking a shot at Sean, because he was the “inside man” on the Hamhuis situation
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Dick!
haha
Hey, San Jose was making a serious push for Hammer on July 1. So was Pitts and Islanders and Senators. He chose here. His agent questioned him because NY was ready to toss a shitload more dough at him but Hammer said “take the Vancouver deal”
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 28, 2011 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah I remember hearing that
90% of rumours are either misinterpreted speculation or people passing made-up crap as truth. My rule is if I hear the rumour a lot, there’s probably some substance to it (ie. Hamhuis to Vancouver, trouble in Flyers’ locker room).
$2.5 mill for Kennedy seems a bit steep
but I love the roster look. I also doubt we’d nab Voracek (Philly should match any reasonable offer) but again I’d love it if we somehow did.
He was there originally (Ballard/Tanev OMG BFF)
But I thought I’d snag another Eastern Conference player while I was at it. Besides, with the way our D corps marched to the trainer’s room last season I’d have fully expected to see Tanev up anyway.
Work hard, play harder, rest easy.
this is interesting
“We have an unwritten about the age of 34 and 1,000 games and different things like that which go into consideration. But when you look at Kevin, he really takes care of himself and he doesn’t have a tremendous number of NHL games.”
Read more: http://www.theprovince.com/Canuck+Bieksa+mileage+makes+safe+pick/5020035/story.html#ixzz1QcZoZUzG
hahahahahaha YES
Bob McKenzie is the best:
tg_gman
Anyone find it disturbing TSN knows who trades whom less than five minutes after it is officially done? Talk about cosy with the league.
TSNBobMcKenzie
@tg_gman I find that’s usually what lazy reporters who don’t do their job very well say to make themselves feel better.
by Canuckk on Jun 28, 2011 6:21 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
O SNAP
I love you Bob
If Bob McKZ has no respect for Tony G, that confirms all my suspicions about him.
you still had suspicions?
Mine were confirmed a loooooooong time ago. His article before the Finals speculating the league was going to orchestrate suspensions and officiating against the Canucks so the Bruins could win the Cup was a real gem.
like, for good reason
we need assholes to stop stirring the pot for the sake of it. there’s a rabid mob that doesn’t need to be encouraged anymore.
yep
He’s the biggest reason Vancouver media is made out to be a bunch of crackpots (mainly because he’s one of the biggest crackpots around). I imagine he comes up with article ideas by fantasizing absurd theories that nobody’s ever thought of before and somehow telling them as quasi-fact.
Yeaaaaah, I’d be quite happy if he’d just retire right now.
Ed fucking Willies should retire too.
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 28, 2011 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
click, click, Boom
Nicely done Bob. Tony is every Canucks stereotype nicely wrapped up with a bow on top
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hahahahahaha
that’s fucking fantastic
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 28, 2011 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions
OMFG
OWNED
This is that garfield sex music!
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 28, 2011 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
What a shocker
DarrenDreger
Boston Bruins sent out an email this afternoon offering Tomas Kaberle’s negotiating rights. Van did same for Ehrhoff and found a deal.
No more Kaberle in Boston, to the surprise of nobody.
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