Human Gambling: The 2011 Entry Draft
The road to the next Stanley Cup Champion begins with the NHL Entry Draft this weekend. A year ago Gillis gave up on Steve Bernier and coughed up two prospects (the 25th pick overall plus Michael Grabner) to acquire Victor Oreskovich and Keith Ballard. If the intent at the time was for Oreskovich to play more playoff games than Get-Baumgartner-on-the-line-because-no-one-trusts Ballard and Grabner to be up for rookie of the year, then roll out the banner because mission fucking accomplished.
Starting tonight and continuing into tomorrow, Gillis and the scouts jump into the spotlight to address the franchise's short and long term needs. It also means that Missy, eightseven and the other NM ladies get to oogle the kids (you know I'm right) who will struggle with comically large jerseys in front of the hockey world before being ushered quickly off stage for even more comical photo spreads. See above.
After the jump, we'll look at what GMMG may do with his selections. Naturally since we're guessing none of it will come true and instead he'll draft a broken table leg from OHL Whitehorse. Book it.
Gillis has only picked 17 times since he took over the team and nearly 25% of those have been from the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League. Curious what his draft roster looks like? Roll tape:
Center
Cody Hodgson (10th - 2008), Jordan Schroeder (22nd - 2009), Prab Rai (131st - 2008), Mats Froshaug (161st - 2008), Alex Friesen (172nd - 2010)
Left Wing
Anton Rodin (53rd - 2009), Steven Anthony (187th - 2009)
Defense
Yann Sauve (41st - 2008), Kevin Connauton (83rd - 2009), Jeremy Price (113rd - 2009), Patrick McNally (115th - 2010), Peter Andersson (143rd - 2009), Sawyer Hannay (205th - 2010)
Goalie
Morgan Clark (191st - 2008), Adam Polasek (145th - 2010), Joe Cannata (187th - 2009), Jonathan Iilahti (175th - 2010)
NM went defense first and so too did not just one but two NHL Mock Drafts along with a Pierre McGuire-inspired TSN mock draft, though having the McGuire endorsement means David Musil's career is over before it begins. We loved what Tanev showed this year, have high hopes for Sweatt, Connauton and Sauve but no one is near the caliber of the late Luc Bourdon. None of the defensive picks above strike us as first pairing material. As the adage goes - and fate seems to reinforce on us at all the wrong times - you can never have enough defensemen and there will be plenty of options by the time #29 rolls around.
There's a similar quality issue up front. Aside from Hodgson and Schroeder and high hopes for Rodin, no one truly stands out. We have our fingers crossed for Bill Sweatt, Stefan Schneider and Prab Rai, but clearly the club could use some better building blocks. They are remarkably thin at pure right wingers with only Desbiens and prospects Darren Archibald and Kellan Tochkin so it stands to reason that St. John's RW Tomas Jurco was the selection in both Hockey's Future's mock draft and TSN's ("think a highly skilled Michael Frolik"). One of the NHL mock drafts has Vancouver taking Windsor LW Alexander Khokhlachev (a Russian? AHHH! RUN AWAY!!!) and notes "Skilled, flashy forward eventually will look great skating alongside Cody Hodgson" which is going to make Sergei Shirokov punt a bunny.
No way they'd take a goalie right? Wait, never mind.
Overall this draft feels like 2009 where Vancouver picked at 22nd and Schroeder dropped into their laps and they then landed intriguing Rodin and Connauton the two rounds after. They'll naturally be hoping a first rounder slated to go in the teens slips down and that they can unearth some gems in the middle rounds.
Conversely Gillis could treat us to some wheeling and dealing again (preferably after speaking with Vigneault about the feasibility of the acquisition actually playing). The 29th pick isn't sexy, but it's still a first rounder and Gillis has all his picks to offer along with two highly coveted rookies (Hodgson and Schneider), negotiating rights (Bieksa and Ehrhoff notably) and at least one serviceable veteran (Samuelsson). In exchange Gillis wants some quality but I suspect any true answers via the trade route are going to be costly; no one is going to have sympathy after Vancouver's regular season dominance. After Philly's moves yesterday - moving Carter and Richards for picks and prospects - maybe the time is now to move youth to bolster the immediate future. Losing Grabner was one thing, but are you ready to stomach seeing Ginger Jesus stroll out of town or see Hodgson be the real deal somewhere else for a proven commodity now?
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I will not be ogling them. Huberdeau just had his prom yesterday. To me, he’s a little baby. I think it’s actually illegal for me to look at him.
by sunshine and lollipops on Jun 24, 2011 8:13 AM PDT reply actions
Imagine he gets dumped at the prom and shows up to the draft podium all sad? Looking down, kicking at nothing, all frumpy. Yes…yes I want this image to be real.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I imagine you sitting in a dark office behind a large desk laughing maniacally.
by sunshine and lollipops on Jun 24, 2011 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions
She brought booze and cookies.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
You mean… she knows out diet, too? The fiend!
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by sunshine and lollipops on Jun 24, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
LW Alexander Khokhlachev
Saw him a few times this year. He plays grittier than a lot of Russian forwards, certainly not the typical “Russian forward” stereotype. More Ovie-style, although obviously nowhere near as talented. I wouldn’t mind him.
Assuming we actually make our first round selection at 29 (of which I have my doubts), I hope GMMG just takes the best player available. In all likelihood, we aren’t getting a player at 29 who is going to help us next year anyways, so just get the best talent you can.
Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.
I’d like Khokhlachev; I still don’t believe he’ll get to us. Others I’m intrigued by: Dmitrij Jaskin (Big Czech Guy), Stefan Noesen (Big Texan Guy) and Jonas Brodin (Little Swedish Guy).
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Joe Morrow
You guys did a terrific job of grabbing him, btw. From the look of all the mocks, there is no chance we get him. Which simply proves you guys are smarter than at least 10-15 other NHL SB Nation blog. Go NM Management!!
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The other SBN guys weren’t distracted with the Cup run and had fun trying to unearth gems. Now we need the real GMs to do the same…
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions
I appreciate the approach of “don’t overthink it, just take the guy you think is best player available” regarding the draft. Well done.
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It's gotta be the only way
With all the twists and turns between a player being drafted and actually making the NHL surely you’ve got to go for the best player available regardless of position.
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by Tink for Nucks on Jun 24, 2011 9:24 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Dobbers has a fantasy prospects report out for each team...a sample from Vancouver's end:
Cody Hodgson
To say Hodgson’s post-draft development has been turbulent would be putting it lightly. He has had more lows (a
nagging back injury) than highs (standout international performances), but he appears to be finally healthy and back
on track once again. His skating and speed will never be his strong suit, but he uses his smarts and a quick and
deceptive shot very effectively. With Vancouver’s depth at center there is no short term offensive role for Hodgson
to play, but expect him to see some time on the second power-play unit while playing in a depth offensive role at
even strength. He won’t be fantasy relevant for a while, but the fact that he is playing at a high level once again is
great news to both Canuck fans and those who own him in hockey pools. If you are looking for a comparison, think
Daymond Langkow.
Upside: Top six center (30-45-75, 50 PIM)
Certainty (NHLer; Upside): 95%, 40%
3YP: (15-29-44, 40 PIM)
Anton Rodin
While Winnipeggers wait for an NHL team to arrive, Canuck fans want to see Anton Rödin in Manitoba’s capital
next fall. Vancouver’s 2009 second round pick was signed last summer to an ELC but was loaned to his SEL club
Brynäs for his continued development. An exceptional skater and blessed with superior hockey sense, Rödin has
been compared to fellow Swede Daniel Alfredsson because he’s a terrific playmaker and also a tenacious defender.
While the 2010 WJC standout didn’t dominate the SEL this past season, his goals (7) and assists (19) regularly made the highlights. The 20-year old only carries 176 pounds on his 6’0 frame, so a move to North America may
encourage him to bulk up so he can compete in the more physical AHL. Rödin, no relation to the French sculptor, is
a few years away but hopefully he gets there quickly so he can line up with the Sedins for a season or two before
their contracts are up.
Upside: Scoring line winger (30-40-70, 50 PIM).
Certainty (NHLer; Upside): 70%; 50%
3YP: (13-26-39, 36 PIM)
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wow rodin projected as a 70 point guy!
Also, what does 3YP stand for?
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three year probable: “a snapshot of what we [Dobber] believe will be the three best years of this player’s NHL career going forward and takes an average of those three years”
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Sorry, that’s not projected, that’s just what his absolute best case scenario is. :P
I’d say he’s probably somewhere in between, maybe a 20-30-50ish type guy?
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 24, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Hello
Thought I’d stop by for the chat. Wouldn’t be surprised if Keith Ballard is on the move today (draft day trade part two).
As for the pick – I like Morrow, too.
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Unless someone is pining for him (is that even possible?) I think they keep him as an insurance policy for another season.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah because if he gets ice time this year and brings his game back up with that ice time he is easier and more valuable to move. At this point he would be hard to move and the Canucks would probably get the short end of any deal involving Ballard.
Ballard has trade value. There are at least a dozen teams with cap space and a huge desire to add a mobile d-man.
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he’s also a puck moving defenseman that is capable of playing big minutes. A lot of teams seem to want that these days
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I’m told chances aren’t good Max Talbot re-signs in Pittsburgh. UFA market should give him plenty of options.
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Does he care to play wing?
Hansen/Manny/Talbot would be fun
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Who does he replace? Higgins? Torres?
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 24, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
In my mind, Torres
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
how much would he cost though? 2M x 3 yrs? Pens said he declined a 3 yr deal.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 24, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Not sure. It won’t happen, but he represents a pain in the ass goal scorer which is an upgrade to Torres minus the hitting part.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Sounds like it very well could be the Jets
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
I am surprised. I was starting to think that because it is looking like they will have no name or sweater for the draft (could happen but time is running short lol) that they were going in a different direction than the jets. But maybe the delay is due to picking a new logo or sweater design
i think the jets
would be a shame, actually. Shows an incredible inability to move forwards, and although there’s a cool nostalgia factor there, I personally think that should not be the thing you base the team name on. This team is NOT the jets, the jets are in phoenix. This is a completely different team in a completely different environment, and i’ll be a bit disappointed if True North ends up bowing to the lowest common denominator. Give us something new, jeez!
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Definitely the safe choice
Which is often the wrong one in hockey.
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yeah I would prefer something different but it doesn’t matter much to me
I do think however that it is a bit ridiculous that they won’t have a name going into the draft given how much time they had to come up with a name, logo and sweater. I know that technically they only got the final go ahead a few days ago but they should have had something ready to roll out as soon as they knew. Unless they are planning a dramatic revealing at the draft it just seems like bad planning and organization to go into the draft with no name imo
It looks like your last sentence (re dramatic at the draft) is the plan.
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i've thought since day 1
that they’d do the reveal at the draft…just makes sense. Keep it quiet until they announce it to reduce counterfeit goods, make the big splash when the whole hockey world is watching.
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personally
jets seems like the right choice to me, winnepeg loves their jets, so it may be an easier sell to the fans if they can cheer for their jets and not “blank”. but on a purely business standpoint, a new name with new colours is a great money maker, fans will buy new jerseys and all, or they will just wear their jets jerseys anyways
it's not
their jets they love, it was their hockey team that happened to be called the jets. This will be an easy sell no matter what they’re called. They could call them the Winnipeg Losing Pussyassed Wimps and it would still be an easy sell.
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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 24, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
winnipeg losing pussyassed wimps
.. thats got a ring to it.
serious question, not trying to ruffle feathers.
would you love your canucks if the whole roster was different?
im not sure if i could cheer for a team called the losing pussyassed wimps…abbreviate it and i may think about it LPAW?
well if you're asking
if they blew up the team and completely changed the manpower, i’d probably still say yes, i’m a canucks fan…good or bad… Just happier when they’re good.
If you’re asking if the team went away for 10 years then came back called the Vancouver Flamehawkduckleafs, i’d still say yeah cuz i’d be so happy to have a team back.
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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 24, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
i was thinkin more if they came back after leaving
if they came back with a new name and new jersey/logo would you feel the same love?
i think it would take a bit to win the love of the fans
if the team went away for 10 years then came back called the Vancouver Flamehawkduckleafs, i’d still say yeah cuz i’d be so happy to have a team back.
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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 24, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
anyways
it’s moot. u win. Jets it is. Change is bad afterall, I guess.
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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 24, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
We need to ask an old-school Jets fan what they think. I’ll bet 90% prefer the Jets. I love it, personally
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t understand that line of thinking. The Jets’ players and management went to Phoenix; 15 years later only like Shane Doan is left from the ‘Peg days. Winnipeg’s NHL team will always be the “Jets” to a lot of people, no matter where they came from.
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
bah
DarrenDreger Darren Dreger
Correction. Secret is out. Wpg Jets returns.
opportunity to start completely anew, squandered.
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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 24, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
We should take the orca off the Canucks jersey and replace it with a burning cop car.
Too soon?
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Or maybe the bleeding dismantled head of Tim Thomas?
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Modify the stick-in-the-rink to be a burning cop car inside a street instead
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heheh
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
i would like to see mg makes a deal
its going to be a boring day at work and it would definitely kill some time. something to make the 2nd line better, 1 3 and 4 should all be fine, but i would like to see someone like leino play beside kesler, but i have a feeling PHI wants to keep him after dealing yesterday.
maybe a move to get higher in the draft, like mentioned yesterday
Go on CDC. I went there for 15 minutes and got a huge headache.
Someone was suggesting Schneider is to be traded to Colorado ONLY if they offer their 11th pick AND Duchene….
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 24, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
cdc....
im thinking a little more realistic, but i keep thinking about the mg quote about having options no one thinks they have.. i would like to see him pull the trigger, we have a very good winning team who i think can make a run again next year, but there are 1 or 2 pieces to win it all
Personally, when the team as constructed comes within 60 minutes of winning the Stanley Cup, with two chances to do it, I think the team as constructed is good enough to win the Stanley Cup.
We’ll see what happens this offseason, but this team was good enough. They just didn’t get it done.
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by Jevant on Jun 24, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
this
rec’d
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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 24, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
i do agree
i dont mean make a PHI move, i just wanna see someone who can make shit happen with kes, someone with some size.
someone hortonish maybe
We can’t trade Schneider now because we need insurance in case Luongo goes down to injury.
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Yesterday it was the 11th pick plus Stastny.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
And they’d probably laugh at that
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make him play wing. less common then people realize.
Or stack Kesler on the first line. Would solve lots of Sedin problems.
It’s not that hard for a center to play wing. But it is hard for a wing to play center. That may or may not make sense. But it’d be like in field hockey/lacrosse/soccer, mid fielders can easily convert to either offense or defense. But forwards and defenders have a hard time converting to midfielding.
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Is it the NM reality show I've been waiting for?
HOW DARE YOU TOUCH MY PEANUT BUTTER YOU BASTARD!
(just kidding, congrats Ms. Twitch)
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
hah
well it is a reality show…
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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 24, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Reality shows
are supposed to write themselves arent they?
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well there's that
and also writing in a plot based on the video to make it flow is important. Telling a story based on raw data, right?
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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 24, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Seconded.
Congrats to Ms. Twitch.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 24, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Thirded
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
More draft background links
http://www.puckworlds.com/2011/6/20/2232666/2011-nhl-entry-draft-swedish-prospect-preview
http://www.puckworlds.com/2011/6/23/2234641/2011-nhl-entry-draft-russian-prospect-preview
http://www.puckworlds.com/2011/6/23/2238683/2011-nhl-entry-draft-swiss-prospect-review
http://www.puckworlds.com/2011/6/24/2241141/2011-nhl-entry-draft-players-to-watch
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Eric Brewer: $16m/4yrs
If Brewer can get that from the Lightning without even hitting the open market, I am 100% convinced that Gillis could find a taker (and get an asset in return) for Ballard without any problems, if he so desires.
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Perhaps...
…for someone AV would use? Wouldn’t mind keeping Ballard – he is quite good – but it’s definitely a position of strength for the Canucks.
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Hopefully it remains a position of strength. Let’s not count our chickens until at least 2 of Bieksa, Salo and Ehrhoff have signed a contract with the Canucks.
There is no way I consider moving Ballard until I know that has happened. Even then, not sure it’s worth it.
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True.
The youth we have on the blue looks good, but we don’t need to rush anyone, and I’d rather not.
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I like how are young defensive prospects are being eased into it to be short-term injury solutions, at present. Gives you an opportunity to see which ones are ready to make the jump (like Tanev), rather than FORCING them to make the jump.
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How so?
That was a pay cut for Brewer. He was making 4.25 before, and now it’s 3.85
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$4M for a 20-25 point D-man is quite pricey. Bieksa and Hoff could easily get $5.5-6M using this contract as a benchmark.
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i think that deal has real potential to blow asshole pretty soon for TB.
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
ugh brewer
so overrated
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 25, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Brewer: The Shawn Horcoff contract of the 2011 playoffs.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 25, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Cmon Stevie
don’t do it
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 25, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I’m with Wisp here, if we’re going to move Schneider we better be getting something that will help us now, as opposed to the 11th pick in a draft.
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o rly?

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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t really like a #11 pick in a draft that has 8 clear prospects, and everything else comes with much greater risk. Still in the “Don’t-trade-Scneids-unless a top-end-winger-is-coming-the-other-way” camp.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 24, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
He's is WAYYYY too valuable
to throw away for a pick or a prospect. That would go down as a milbury-esque trade unless we got real lucky with the draft pick.
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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 24, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
And even then the pick wouldn’t be helping until a couple years down the road at best
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well, sure, if there’s a “top-end winger” to be had instead, I’d love that too. my suspicion is that there isn’t (or, at least, really shouldn’t be, although yesterday demonstrated once again that GMs are still far too in love with goalies).
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I think trading Schneider
would be a really bad idea. Unless it brings us someone like Parise or Weber or some other superstud, throwing away schneider in a kneejerk reaction to other events going on would be a really unwise move for the short and medium terms.
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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 24, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
A Parise (or at least his rights) would make sense. But yeah don’t move him unless we’re getting someone who will be playing in October.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm actually
kinda surprised to see PV make that suggestion here. There are prospects we could give up for a high pick, but I’d suggest that Schneids and Coho and probably tanev are completely off the table for those type of trades.
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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 24, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Well I’ve seen the rumor kicked around already but it involved Stasney too
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Where the hell would he fit in though? We already have Hank-Kes-Manny down the middle and I don’t know if putting a 6.6M centre (need to move some major cap space too) on the wing is the best use of that money
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You can consider putting Kes as a dynamic goal scoring winger I guess. If there’s talent, we can make it fit.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 24, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
If that were to happen I’d rather put Stastny and Kesler on a line to make a 2nd tough scoring line
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if colorado’s ready to give up stastny for schneider alone, i’ll…well, i’ll be confused.
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m sure there’d be other things going as well, but that was one of the rumours
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I don’t think we have sufficient cap room to add Statsny without dramatically impacting the rest of the team anyways.
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Unless Ballard’s going the other way. That contract is NOT cap-friendly whatsoever.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 24, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Eric Brewer’s contract today suggests that it’s not a bad contract.
I am almost certain that if he was available on the FA market today, Ballard could easily land a $17m/4yr deal, or close to it.
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you’re probably right. i’d still rather the canucks weren’t the ones paying it :D
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
sorry. I mean Statsny’s contract is not cap-friendly whatsoever. :P
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 24, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Boom
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR
FORWARDS
Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Alexandre Burrows ($2.000m)
Mason Raymond ($2.550m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Paul Stastny ($6.600m)
Chris Higgins ($2.000m) / Manny Malhotra ($2.500m) / Jannik Hansen ($1.250m)
Raffi Torres ($1.250m) / Maxim Lapierre ($1.000m) / Victor Oreskovich ($0.630m)
/ Alexandre Bolduc ($0.500m)
DEFENSEMEN
Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.250m)
Alexander Edler ($3.250m) / Sami Salo ($2.000m)
Keith Ballard ($4.200m) / Chris Tanev ($0.900m)
/ Aaron Rome ($0.750m)
GOALTENDERS
Roberto Luongo ($5.333m) / Eddie Lack ($0.900m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,563,333; BONUSES: $210,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $736,667
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I stand corrected
Still not sure why we’d add a C to play W when we could just target a W (at a presumably cheaper price point).
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Yeah, I don’t either. Makes more sense to use the money on an actual winger…but there might not be any available?
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RFA; Philly’s still tight for cap space. If you like him (I personally don’t see the appeal), send him an offersheet.
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Should offer sheet Voracek while we’re at it. Section would love that
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That would probably make more sense to me than Simmonds. Offer sheeting Voracek would exact some Kesler revenge.
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didja read C&B’s dual offer sheet thing for this year?
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Simmonds is what we need
Young, plays big and tough, good hands, big upside.
by Canuckelhead on Jun 24, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Would LOVE Voracek. I can certainly see him bust out too.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 24, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not a huge Simmonds fan, personally. I guess we’ll see how that works out.
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Whats not to like?
Do you know he’s only 22? He’s basically Hodgsons age and he’s already an impact player. Put him with Kesler and see what happens.
by Canuckelhead on Jun 24, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
That's pretty sexy
Now that I look at it. Assuming Lack could handle heavy back up duties
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Lack just played his first year of AHL. As much of a pleasant surprise as he was, I don’t think he is near ready for the job.
Needs more heavy AHL minutes for 2 years. Bring him along like GJ. Rushing a goalie usually ends up backfiring.
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This is an excellent point
The LU/CS tandem was incredible. We are in a “window to win”. Maybe we shouldn’t be so eager to break that up.
Anyone have any idea if Brooks Laich is actually as good of an option as he would seem to be? Young, seems tough enough. Good character guy. Anyone have any idea how he rates on those new hockey stats? I honestly don’t really know much about the advanced hockey stats (Corsi and the like).
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from what I have heard he’s a good center that also plays wing well. (would mean having an extra center on the ice for faceoffs). Has decent production (it went down this year but from what I can see just about everyone on the Caps roster went down this year). It also sounds like he is a solid addition to any locker room. But I don’t know about things like Corsi and the like :)
Numbers wise I wouldn’t be terribly worried about Laich unless someone else knows something different, simply because the Caps started playing an entirely different style of hockey.
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yeah
That was just a proof of concept. I really don’t want to break them up if at all possible, but he can get us a great asset…
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Yeah, Was thinking we could spend a little of the leftover cash to acquire an NHL calibre backup who can log 20 games and not be a liability.
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Only in the case where we get a top 6 forward for him, otherwise hold onto him for now.
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Our window is now
There is no sense moving our top prospects for picks that may or may not turn out to be top prospects by the time our window closes
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If we don't consider the future
When these players get old we won’t have an NHL caliber team. What happened to everyone wanting to follow the “Detroit model”? Now were willing to mortgage the future for a small window? Are we now following the “Alberta team model”?
by Canuckelhead on Jun 24, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
If we're really going to follow the "Detroit model"
We wouldn’t need the 11th pick, since we’d just draft future hall of famers in the 7th round
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by Semi_Colon on Jun 24, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Haha
That’s true. I don’t necessarily think we should move Schneider for the 11th in this draft but I do hope that Gillis is considering the future. We gave away our draft last year and our forward prospects cupboard is suddenly pretty bare
by Canuckelhead on Jun 24, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
I do agree our forward prospects are looking pretty thin. But the 11th for Schneider is not going to really help that too much
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yeah thats true
especially since this doesn’t seem like a great draft.
by Canuckelhead on Jun 24, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Tell me when I'm allowed to laugh at Smyth likely going to Calgary
I’ll be waiting patiently.
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I already have
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I can understand Calgary doing this out of spite, but why else would they do it?
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 24, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
The last thing they need is to spend that much money on an injury-prone old guy.
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Let’s try to get Bourque to “alleviate” their cap issues.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 24, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Really?
I thought he wanted to go back and lose for a couple more seasons in Edmonton…
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i have never head
of a player wanting to move to edmonton for their family before. usually it’s the opposite.
credit to the smyth family, where credit is due.
It’s not his choice. It’s also possible Edmonton doesn’t want him (though that seems pretty strange for a heart and soul go to willingly leave a playoff team for the worst team in the league). It’s also possible Calgary is throwing waaaay to much just to block the moment which is comical to say the least.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
*heart and soul guy
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Is there actually a suggestion out there that Calgary wants him and his crazy high cap hit?
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Rumors are flying around CAL is willing to part with a pick for him. The fanbases are having the opposite reactions to the news.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm sure zona
will find a way to blame canucks fans for this. Seriously though, there’s an NHL player who actually WANTs to play in edmonton…whoda thunk it?
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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 24, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Well he’ll be a UFA at the end of the year. Edmonton is going no where, they can afford to wait a year and scope him up at his own free will.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
stolen from PPP: Oilers fans get sad

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by Semi_Colon on Jun 24, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
lol
the more i watch this, funnier it gets.
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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 24, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
I rather like that goalie...
http://www.nucksmisconduct.com/2011/6/17/2230167/well-back-to-work
Should be a fun evening! I’m still waiting for the “How the heck did Smyth get there?” meme shots.
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well done dude!
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
By the way
Leafs hire Rick Dudley for the front office. They now have 6 GMs working for them
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by Wisp on Jun 24, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
this is awesome
rec it!
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#WinitWithManny
notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
It's raining GMs....hallelujah it's raining GMs (and so on)
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
If they spent this much effort trying to aquire players, they could have a pretty good team.
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by kesrows on Jun 24, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Today is the absolute perfect pick-me-up for Canucks fans
After what happened last week. Chaos in Calgary, Edmonton and Toronto.
And Philly. It’s one big pick me up.
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now we just need Patrick Kane to get run over by a taxi cab and all will be well.
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe Montreal will bury Gomez in the minors
That’ll up the count
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
That would be a poor decision. Contract aside, Scott Gomez is a pretty effective hockey player who was hampered by some poor shooting stats this season.
Would you want Gomez on Vancouver? #rosterbatinglikeademon
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
sure, though his cap hit’s prohibitive, of course. but i still think someone like CBJ should do something like Brassard<>Gomez+19th Overall
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
No to Gomez. A center we absolutely don’t need.
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
i can’t imagine a scenario in which we acquire him short of moving the sedins elsewhere (/vancouver slips into the sea), just because his cap hit is so high. but i’d take a less cap-heavy version of gomez to play with kesler happily.
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I think this is the best part of having Gillis:
I can gleefully watch other team’s schadenfreude without worrying he is about to do something incredibly stupid to top it.
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Sundin? Did somebody say SUNDIN??!!!!
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
well
Sundin was reputation\leadership thing
Good value in the long run.
Exactly
We didn’t give up anything. How was it bad in any way? Are people really that invested in how the Aquilini’s spend their pocket money?
a ginger ball hockey player... no wonder I'm a Canucks fan
Not at all
As long as they keep out of the hockey operations
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Plus getting Sundin did a lot to show that Gillis was serious about winning. Finally, a big-name free agent that wanted to play here. It’s been all uphill ever since.
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I always wonder about the use of “it’s all uphill/downhill”. Saying it’s all uphill could also mean you have a really hard climb/tough time ahead of you, and it’s all downhill could mean it’s going to be really easy from now on.
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The uphill v downhill thing is entirely dependent on how good/bad the accelerator and breaks on your car are. For me uphill = bad, downhill = good. In my old clunker from high school, downhill was bad because sometimes the accelerator would stick and the breaks weren’t great.
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im slow
was about to mention that
also got the feeling nothing would be happening today, with regards to deals with the canucks…. but he is a shifty guy….manny?
JM Liles to Toronto
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As per @DarrenDreger, Leafs acquire J M Liles from COL for 2nd rd pick.
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I’m interested to know Colorado’s plans RE: reaching the cap floor
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That’s a great pickup by Burke
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
And it’s not even this year’s 2nd rounder
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hah! k. that’s pretty solid for the Leafs, then.
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Great pick-up for a puck-moving QB, and since cap is no issue for Toronto, that’s getting a top-4 D for a future pick. Awesome move by Burke.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 24, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
And it wasn’t even their pick – the one they got for Boston making the finals in the Kaberle deal
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So basically
They traded Kaberle for Joe Colbourne, a first round pick, and JM Liles.
Pretty solid
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That’s exceptional, especially given how much Kaberle blew for Boston.
Colborne… I still don’t know enough to judge until he starts playing a couple of games, but that’s a great return, if you think about it. Too bad that 1st isn’t the 9th overall pick. Teeheee.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 24, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
They aren’t going to try and sign B. Richards are they??
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Hmm...
Not the position they really need, but then pretty much anyone anywhere would help them out. Wouldn’t be a bad pick-up…
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They need to spend
20M just to hit the cap floor now
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The Leafs don’t need a #1 center? Really? Yes they do. I am thinking Richards to Toronto. Just a hunch
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Richards to Kessel? You must be having a Toronto fan-gasm
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 24, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
and they have caproom to burn. 15M, not counting the inevitable L. Schenn raise.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 24, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
it’d be a barrel of fun to offer sheet Schenn. heck, we could use a player like him too :D
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I like the sound of it, not gonna lie!
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, for...
This is the new, improved, unable to read version of me…
For some obscure reason, I read that as JML going to Colorado. How they’d pull off that trade, I have no idea…
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Good choice for them.
A suitable replacement for Kaberle, I think. He’s got offensive touch, though his defense is atrocious.
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COL is going to be easy to beat down this year
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
But they have Elliott in goal now. Facepalm.
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We said that in a game against them last season. I think we lost that game….
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 24, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
you think they’re making the playoffs?
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Capgeeks on top of their game
They have it before TSN or Sportsnet has it on the main page.
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Some CDC gopfery...

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
NO WAY MAN!
Stick with gopfery…it can be the new tag line for the daily cdc comments column.
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by Semi_Colon on Jun 24, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I almost want to go find out what everyone did to cause us to lose the Cup. Almost.
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same things we did that made the dinosaurs go extinct.
Trying to distance myself from the concept of karma. My mantra this season is “I am not in control of anything.”
I blame Yankee for his Star Wars game thread theme in round 1 :)
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I really thought Tombstone was going to pull it out too…
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Canucks players went on-line after game two...
…found CDC and thought “These are our fans? Oh, god…” Then they lost all will to win.
That’s my guess, any way.
Flying that Nerd Flag high!
It's apparently
A very important question, as it was asked three times. It smacks of panic and blameshifting. Ha.
"I'll play on one leg, I don't care..."
CHEECHOO!?!
CDC bringin the lulz.
Also would love to get my LU cap hit perspective from there.
Win it for Manny!
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This is just too good
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Pierre LeBrun
Hearing Flames and Oilers still slugging away over Smyth… God Bless the Battle of Alberta
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no we want the decrepit old $6m man more
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
lol - Chicago Wolves are our new affiliate
Apparently it’s official
that’s just a straight-up swap with manitoba, innit?
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
http://www.nucksmisconduct.com/2011/6/24/2242554/strange-bedfellows
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Statsny?
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WTF
RealKyper_ Nick Kypreos
Statsny on his way to Vancouver. #canucks #avs @VanCanucks
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hope
they don’t mean yann
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^
cuz that’d be straight up gopfery! (see sean? it works!)
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NOT THE REAL KYPER
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
yeah just noticed
d’oh!
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For a fake account that has 1,000+ followers…
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
i got it on the retweet
and was wondering why i hadn’t noticed it in the stream
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GOPFERY!!!
That does work, doesn’t it? heheh
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
urban dictionary here we come
Gopfery (adj): To say something so utterly stupid and uninformed even the world famous double face palm/implied face palm is not enough of a face palm. Ex: Any comment on a yahoo! or CDC board.
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see also
sports radio call ins.
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Hells yes but that would limit the amount of $$ we have to replace Error..unless we dump Ballard
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Sarcasm? There are a shitload of players to re-sign yet!
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes sarcasm
That’s why I said duh. If Gillis can convince Colorado to take ballard straight across for statsney then he really is a jedi.
by Canuckelhead on Jun 24, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry. I got defensive there
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
New Jets logo?

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Needs more Thrashers
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
actually awfully reminiscent of the thrashers’ logo.
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
But I don’t see talons. I NEED TALONS.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
he's in florida now
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I like it
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Kick ass!
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
heh, i gotta be honest, i think this is tight

by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
niiiiiiice
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
heh, howbout this one? you wouldn't even have to photoshop the logo to make it terrified, sean.

by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
the bear looks confused
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
and scared shitless like Passive said
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
i'd pay huge money to see that go up against Larry the Depressed Bruin

by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
ahaha
I still love that one
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Laugh at the worse jersey in history all you want
But every time I wear mine the Bruins win.
Sometimes glass glitters more than diamonds because it has more to prove.
Spelling fail,
worst* jersey in history
Sometimes glass glitters more than diamonds because it has more to prove.
ahem**superstitious bullshit**ahem
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 26, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
that looks like
a bear that’s wondering if it left the stove on
Olympic convert hockey n00b
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by Pseuccubus on Jun 24, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
The secondary logo needs a riding cowboy on it.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
What? So do many other NHL logos
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
ICE MOTHERF***ER!!
heh
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
What does a Maple Leaf have to do with hockey? A “c” with an “H” inside of it?? :) The DUCKS?
The Flames? Oilers?
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
All I want to know is what power the Jets NHL Guardian will have
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Starscream. Talks to much, plots to kill his leader to take over power and fails to lead his troops
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Gotcha. So their special power is they’re an asshole. Got it!
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
heheh, well they do have Buff
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
heh, in 10 months’ time that could sound a whole lot like a description of Chris Pronger.
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I've decided
I want the canucks to take Tomas Jurco. From TSN:
Followed up an impressive 51-point rookie QMJHL season with a underwhelming 56-point season on one of the most most talented QMJHL teams in memory. More was expected from the 6-2 Slovakian winger, who saw his ranking slip considerably before his redemptory Memorial Cup performance. Strengths – Has top ten skills with elite puckhandling abilities and excellent skating agility, has all the physical attributes to be a star. Weaknesses – very inconsistent, is a star one night and accomplishes little the next. Not overly gritty, tends to stay to the outside of the play. NHL Upside – Risky pick in the first round who may be a top-two winger (think a more skilled Michael Frolik), or could struggle for ice time due to inconsistencies.
and in part because this might be useless but it’s cool:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32aEQd8DcKU
NO SLOVAKS
Demitra, Bulis…need i even go any further?
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Haha
I don’t know that we should eliminate a whole country full of hockey players tho. I always like to root for the nucks to pick someone specific cause if they pick him it makes following him more fun. Like he’s your guy.
by Canuckelhead on Jun 24, 2011 6:49 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Just the first, the rest happens tomorrow morning.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I think they will
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
lol Zandberg
never learns…more bets to come i’m sure…
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straight up
gopfery!
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Gillis y u no trade
@taj1944
Taj
Gillis: Don’t anticipate any trades from us tonight.
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Playing hard to get?
Wasn’t expecting anything from him by 5 minutes pre-deadline, then BAM BAM!!
aw
we got booed during roll call.
Oh Miny! Haters gonna hate!
Carrying the “villains” banner into the post-season, are we? Well, so be it. Now let’s live up to it by stealing some picks!
Flying that Nerd Flag high!
we're going to be carrying it for years
Whatever. Lets make sure we keep giving them something to cry about.
Is it just me
Or are “draft parties” at pubs about the lamest thing ever?
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I tried watching the All-Star draft in a pub
With TVs on mute. And yes, extremely lame.
What!?
it’s an excuse to get drunk and talk hockey in late June. Nothing lame about that.
by Canuckelhead on Jun 24, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Rec’d. And did you see the females in that crowd? Yowza
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
i’m huddled in my basement, with this and Tyler Dellow’s liveblog open. happier than a pig in shit.
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Smyth for Brulé rumour
Playing in LA, Brulé could moonlight as a celebrity chauffeur.
Prepare to be disappointed
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Doing laundry, watching the Draft
Consider this my last attempt to check in with you all before the summer, where (hopefully) I’ll get a nice vacation.
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Ahhhh …… a vacation
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
End of July.
I put in for it at work, I can’t go back now.
Even though I don’t know where I’m really going. I have choices…
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Same. I’m booking it in a month. Gonna start in Salmon Arm and maybe hit Salt Spring Island…not sure
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
He has the mentality of Ted Nugent and the strength of Bernard Hopkins
/igotnothing
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If you had the option of living in Edmonton or any other city that has an NHL team which city could you pick? Okay, Edmonton beats Buffalo, all right, forgot about them.
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Wow this takes a long time between picks
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hahaha
Larsson’s “comparable” is Sami Salo. Watch out for the injuries Jersey
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
I can’t believe everyone in front passed. I mean, Huberdeau and Landeskog over him!???
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
it doesn’t really surprise me, but i still think it’ll turn out to be a mistake.
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m surprised Colarado didnt’ bite after trading Liles, but Ladeskog does make sense, as a Mike Richards type.
Florida has Gudbranson coming, and won’t need Larsson, forward depth becomes much more important.
And Larsson falls to the Devils. Dammit. Lou is such a lucky bastard.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 24, 2011 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
i think the flyers getting fucking couturier is even crazier.
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s insane. They trade 2 star forwards, then have one fall right into their laps. Fuck them. It’s like watching an inevitable catastrophe almost happening, before someone finally step on the brakes.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 24, 2011 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
An inevitable, eminently deserved catastrophe
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
That makes it even MORE appealing. It’s such a letdown. I’m overworked and it’s Friday, thanks for saying what I want said PV. You’re making it a much more compelling case than I ever could.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 24, 2011 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Swedish-Finnish-Iranian. Interesting combination
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
It’s the J-E-T-S Jets!
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Why Winnipeg didn't get Couturier
is beyond me
fucking ludicrous. maybe finagling Kane isn’t so far-fetched after all.
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
At least Boston didn’t get him
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
hamilton’s no slouch either, apparently; that’s tempered only by the fact that i’m slightly biased towards forwards in the draft.
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
brodin gone. i love that kid.
Now an Edler comp for Brodin.
#CanucksComparisonChampionshipWOOOO
Work hard, play harder, rest easy.
doubtful; he’s smallish. everything i’ve heard of him makes him sound stylistically like lidstrom.
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I know, 166 lbs. doesn't bring Edler to mind much.
But Edler was TSN’s comp for Brodin, because SWEDEN.
Work hard, play harder, rest easy.
just like every black kid in the past 10 years has been Iginla
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions
And God help me, but I lol'd when they read Siemens' name.
I am such a kid.
Work hard, play harder, rest easy.
There's a company named that too
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
don’t they advertise on the boards at Rogers?
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I know the company
but maybe it was because I wasn’t expecting him to be called there that it was funny.
Work hard, play harder, rest easy.
hmm
want, want, do not want?
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Florida? Why no love? David Booth is a great piece to play with Kes.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 24, 2011 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
One, two, three, four I demand
trades
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Is Morrow still around? I want to look like a genius damn it.
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Damn Olelsiak is a 6’7" and 244 lbs? He’s like two Mike Weavers.
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if you could put mike weaver’s brain in oleksiak’s body, he’d eat hockey and then save Nasa from bankruptcy by throwing shit into space.
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions
If harnessed correctly we could make Weavsiak eat McGuire and use Marchand as toilet paper…mutants wipe right?
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Ryan Smyth to Oilers done according to TSN
Kings get Creme de Brule and a 4th round pick.
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So now we have to make fun of him a few more times a year?
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Capitals acquire Troy Brouwer from Chic for Caps first round pick, 26th overall.
Seems a tad rich for Brouwer.
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they have to have more up their sleeves than this
we now have very little size (besides Scott)
Is it October yet?
I mean great deal for Chicago. I must be underestimating Brouwer, I thought he was a top six substitute at best.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah that’s what I thought. Steep price for Wash, but two first round picks for CHI isn’t too shabby (unless you’re about to move the 28th pick)
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions
srsly. you guys were big and scary 12 months ago. now it’s like toews and….???
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions
toews is only big below the waist :)
Seabs is huge but other than fluffy (Scott) we don’t have too much size
Is it October yet?
Seabs isn’t even that huge, is the thing.
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions
One less Hawks pain in the ass to deal with
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m interrupting this adrenaline filled draft to let you all know that I just scored a goal in NHL 11 that was supposed to be a pass that deflected in off the defender’s stick into an open net. That defender was Ehrhoff. Some things never change
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Bobby Mac
Blockbuster: SJS trades Setoguchi, Charlie Coyle and 1st pick (No. 28) to MIN for Brent Burns and a 2nd rd pick.
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Just after they signed Seto? Wow, there’s a big Dman for SJ
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No too shocking. We saw first hand how badly they need someone besides Murray and Boyle.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions
* not
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Why dumb?
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions
For who?
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
apparently Coyle’s really good, but he probs wasn’t gonna help them next year; i think burns will, which sucks for us.
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions
The plus side is Thornton loses his buddy. Maybe you move Pavelski up to the top line?
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions
He's the
3C, he’s not going anywhere, unless you want Wellfed as the new 3C.
This is that garfield sex music!
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 24, 2011 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Pavs as a 3rd C is a waste, you can sign a 3rd liner instead, and have Jumbo Joe play with little Joe. That line would be devastating.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 24, 2011 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
He plays as the 3C
I don’t know if TMac will move him
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 24, 2011 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I know… but that’s with all the depth ahead of him. He can slot back into the top 2 lines, and it’s just cheaper to replace a 3rd line opening than a 1st line opening.
That… and I don’t know if I want to worry about San Jose rolling 3-4 lines on us when we meet.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 24, 2011 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions
ugh
Im worried about them now if Marleau wakes up
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 25, 2011 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Marleau only wakes up against Vancouver.
Wait a minute…
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 26, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
doesn't mean
he can’t earn his 7 mill at some point
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 26, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Changed my mind…I think that’s a solid deal for SJ. And Minny, actually. Pretty reasonable for both.
Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.
Only downside is Burns is brittle as hell, or at least has been in the past. Maybe he pulls a Bieksa and dodges the devil for a few seasons.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 25, 2011 6:31 AM PDT up reply actions
SJ wanted that kind of Dman last summer and didn’t get it. Now they have it
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So where the hell is Regehr going?
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions
That deal isn’t working out so well according to Feaster. Combine that with Regehr’s no-movement clause and he may be going nowhere
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I love twitter
OMG THE NW IS LOADING UP C’MON GILLIS TRADE EVERYONEZ
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what’s the NW loading up on, exactly? this division blows so much dick.
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Smyth and Setoguchi will eat your babies
I think that’s the mentality more or less…
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Blows so much dick?
I believe so MANY dicks is what you meant.
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dick is unquantifiable after a certain point.
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I dunno, Yankee. Morrow is #2 on Big Bob’s leftover list
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He was slated to go between 14-21 so he’s already bucking the trend…we got some wiggle room to work with!
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions
But you’d think the Canucks are going to draft a forward though. The D cupboard is near full
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s possible, but I still think defense is more valuable, especially looking at our farm.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions
haha
PPP doesn’t like it
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future hall of famers no doubt
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH
Bloody ’ell.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions
So now who do we want?
If you were GMMG, going after D still or a looking at a winger (Brandon Saad)?
Work hard, play harder, rest easy.
I’m dead inside, who cares? :)
Just kidding, I’d still take a D if they believe he’s top pairing material. Otherwise go winger.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions
So if you're dead... this means I can have your share of the booze and cookies, right?
Work hard, play harder, rest easy.
Let's not get crazy here...
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions
How about a right winger?
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions
A few guys must have slipped by now
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Boone Jenner. A center but oh well
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Burke drafting Leaf fans.
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CHI’s Brian Campbell has agreed to waive his no trade to go to the Florida Panthers.
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Filling in that floor REAL quick.
Sure Tallon isn’t still working for Chicago?
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Yeah right? They must love Nick Leddy something fierce.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Bye bye Campbell monster salary
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions
And the bad salary is bearable since he helps them reach the basement.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 24, 2011 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
If they somehow manage to take Huet off your hands I'm calling shenanigans.
Work hard, play harder, rest easy.
Well it doesn't look like we are getting much in return for Soupy
so maybe there is a chance for Huet……hmmmmm
Is it October yet?
?
Hjalmarsson/Leddy
Campoli/Scott
Unless you get a good D-man back, Hjalmarsson better mature quick or Keith/Seabrook are gonna get overworked again.
Work hard, play harder, rest easy.
Oh wait, nvm. You guys can actually participate in this "free agency" thing now.
Work hard, play harder, rest easy.
Well that opens up a lot of space for Chicago. Damn
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Yup...that sucks. Perhaps they'll blow it on another guy.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but who are they getting in return? Booth?
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Olesz
snicker
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions
HAHA
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
I’m not at all convinced that that’s funny.
…
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t see how what they got back is anywhere close to what Campbell was. Campbell was pretty damn good despite his albatross contract. And Olesz is coming off major knee surgery.
Unless they are making a huge splash in the UFA market
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Olesz + cap room to re-sign Sharp for Campbell makes a lot more sense. And, I’m aware Campbell played well this season, just not justifying his caphit.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 24, 2011 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Campbell has to be a #1 guy. Watch him rack up 40 – 50 points in Florida
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 26, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Bets on if he is Captain within a year or two?
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He should be. No Horton, and a bunch of young guys, pretty much means he can be made Captain by default.
He’ll put up points, I don’t see 50, he can’t have THAT many assists.. can he? Not with those forwards…
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 26, 2011 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Mike Gillis and Stan Bowman talked trade. The Chicago Blackhawks general manager then dealt grinding winger Troy Brouwer to the Washington Capitals for the 26th overall pick Friday in the NHL entry draft.
And while you can only imagine how the versatile Vancouver native would have helped the Canucks next season because he fits at age (25) and salary ($1.0 million US) even though he’s a restricted free agent, Gillis couldn’t imagine giving up a first-round pick.
“Yeah, I did,” Gillis said of talking trade with Bowman, although he didn’t identify the player. “At this time of year you talk to every GM in the business because you don’t know what will happen and it was proven the other day [Thursday] that those trades were being discussed. You never know what can come out of the mix.”
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He wouldn’t trade the 29th pick?
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Not for Brouwer. Would you?
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
couldn’t turn out worse than last year’s…
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions
O rly?
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d keep the pick, MG must have other irons in the fire. Can’t piss away two first round picks back to back. What are we, the Rangers from the 90’s?
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions
and they’ll still be burning that money 5 years from now
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions
WHY ARE SO MANY
…of the first round picks this year either from Eastern Canada or Europe. To me the best, and toughest, junior league is the WHL. By far. I was at the draft in L.A. Last year and more guys from the WHL seemed to be going early, or it seemed that way at the time. Maybe was confused by L.A. Smog, or beer…
Is it our fucking turn yet?
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tooo smaaall
Who are we, Montreal here?
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Why why why?
Why are they booing GMMG and Nucks? :(
that..Rypien
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Two reasons
1) Minny hates us anyways
2) We’ve become the new team to hate considering our antics in the SCF.
oh well. I’m so zen about this.
Hate on, fuckers. Only 1 team was better than us this year, and I expect nothing less in all 42 away games next season…. well… except the ones in Phoenix.. cuz it’ll be over 50% Canuck fans anyways. rimshot.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 24, 2011 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Phoenix gets 8 people in the arena?
Sometimes glass glitters more than diamonds because it has more to prove.
nah….. just the Canucks fans alone accounts for 500!
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 26, 2011 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I bet Jensen
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
OH I"M GOOD
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ALL YOUR MONEY BELONGS TO ME
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The Dane?
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
I was wondering that too
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions
OMG the Canucks just congratulated the Bruins!! Such class!
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Evil maybe, but evil is relative right
I mean we’re not the Red Wings and we’re certainly not the MFH
Sometimes glass glitters more than diamonds because it has more to prove.
Jensen it is!
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Jenk and Jank. I like the pick from a nickname standpoint!
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by jwolf0 on Jun 24, 2011 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
haha
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions
are you on Twitter? I just put that on there and want to credit you for it
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions
aah well. Lots of people are liking it
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Welcome Jensen!
Hopefully you bring the Danish skill and speed that our incumbent Great Dane is already bringing!
I’d like a bit more skill, actually. Love Jannik – he’s often my favourite player – but that lack of finish…
Flying that Nerd Flag high!
I want a hybrid!
If Jensen learns Hansen’s work habits, then this kid really could become a power forward! And if Hansen could get just a bit more finish, then… Well, he’d still be an awesome third line forechecker.
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Jensen, okay
But i still lije Ty Rattie, watched him play lots this year and hes a good wiinger.
hahahaha
They say Vancouver’s pick, Nick Jensen, is already diving at an NHL level
Hey! A Dane that doesn’t squeak!
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Huh, so the Campbell-Olesz trade is a 1-for-1
Chicago gets $4M more to play with.
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i’m so fucking angry about this. the only upside is if olesz’ knee injury magically turns him into an own-goal-scoring machine.
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions
So Florida is rebuilding…and takes a $7 million defenceman. HUH
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions
sweet jesus
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions
What a huge favor / suckoff
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 24, 2011 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Does anyone know if there was truth to the rumour that Campbell wouldn’t waive his no trade clause to go to Columbus?
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Sean, Fla isn’t any where NEAR the cap limit, and with the cap being projected to increase in the next couple of years, it makes sense for some of the rebuilders to take some bad contracts. Plus, they can have him tutor Gudbranson which should help his development.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 24, 2011 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
man, i dunno how much more the cap can feasibly increase. it’s up, what, 60% on what it was immediately post-lockout?
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, it depends on revenue, right? the revenue continued to increase despite the recession, so i guess i’m almost conditioned to believe it WILL continue to increase.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 24, 2011 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I think you’re right, but I believe it’s something like the players are guaranteed a certain slice of league-wide revenues (they pay some percentage of their checks into escrow in case revenues are lower than anticipated), and then they have the option to raise the cap as they see fit. I guess I’m just not sure how much further revenues can climb. :)
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions
it’s also not one of those front-loaded, cap hit > salary type things. they’ll be paying 7.1m per for a 36-yo campbell. i’ve gotta think they could have done things cheaper.
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t look into that. I thought that was front loaded. Florida can’t be thrilled with spending 7.1M a year on him then. It’s looking worse each time you open your mouth PV. Argh. Thanks for bailing Chicago out, Tallon.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 24, 2011 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, Passive explained it for me.
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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 26, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah
but they’ll miss campbell. D-man that knew how to score.
this is true; i’ve just gotta think they’ll be able to spend that coin more efficiently elsewhere.
by Passive Voice on Jun 24, 2011 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions
consider seabrook got a raise and crawford got a raise, sharp is getting a raise… not as much relief as you think.
They’ll be tougher next year, but so will the whole conference. Who knows.
We’ll need to be get better, too. Make it happen, Gillis!
Also consider CHI has four D men now (I think) and you’ve removed their third best one. They need to go out and find someone equally threatening as Campbell so they can alternate him and Keith all night. If they go out and get someone like, oh, Ehrhoff, I’m duly less impressed with their defense.
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 25, 2011 6:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Jensen post is up
http://www.nucksmisconduct.com/2011/6/24/2242911/canucks-add-nicklas-jensen
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My eyebrows
They raised at the Burns-Setoguchi trade… This is going to take some looking in to.
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That one worried me too. Burns gives San Jose some really good D depth. Burns/Boyle? Vlasic can slide up to play with Murray? That’s a very solid top4.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 24, 2011 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
When is our next pick?
Sorry am not in the loop re: this year’s draft. I cannot believe no one has picked Rattie from the Winterhawks; he will be a steal.
Next six picks: 60th, 90th, 120th, 150th, 180th, and 210th
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay, no straight answer?
I thought 3rd round pick was given in trade… assume the rest are as is then…
Yeah we have all our picks. What trade are you referring to?
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
This one...
“The Vancouver Canucks’ third-round pick will go to the Anaheim Ducks as the result of a trade on February 28, 2011 that sent Maxim Lapierre and MacGregor Sharp to Vancouver in exchange for Joel Perrault and this pick.11”
Wiki NHL draft 2012
Got my years wrong…
oh yeah...the one that brought us the valuable MacGregor Sharp :)
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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 24, 2011 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Minny got fucked
IMO
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 24, 2011 11:34 PM PDT reply actions
Setoguchi’s okay, the deal is pretty fair. Sharks are pretty high on that prospect, so Minny’s gotta be happy with that, then they also got a pick out of it. It’s another rebuilding move, I guess.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 24, 2011 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Burns is a number 2 D man
that SJ needed. Minny could have held SJ over a barrel but instead they got streaky as fuck Gooch, a very good prospect and a late round 1st rounder. SJ is lucky they only had to give up that for Minny’s best defenseman.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 25, 2011 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Sharks fans are not happy about giving up Seto, last year's first, and this year's first
That is a lot for Burns.
Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.
that is a lot
but It’s a “go for broke” move. SJ likely wants to win it all this year and then worry about the rebuild later.
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I think the sharks fucked themselves too
They improved their defense, but they traded their only skater with any speed.
Great teams
Are built from the back end out. The evidence is irrefutable.
by Canuckelhead on Jun 25, 2011 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions
they have
a lot of talent up front. To be honest, Setoguchi wasn’t the big threat in our series, it was Jumbo & Marleau. I don’t think they are so worried about speed and they don’t need to be. Setoguchi has lots of potential, but his offensive talent is replaceable on a very solid team.
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Is it just me
Or did the blackhawks have a head scratcher of a day? How does Bowman not realize he just traded away the strength of his team? Having quick, puck moving Dmen throughout the line up? It seems pretty obvious to me that Gillis even modeled our back end. Hell the Sharks moved one of their best forwards to model their back end after them and now Bowman just threw that away. Crazy.
7.1M / 5 years though. That’s a hell of a lot to get rid of.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 24, 2011 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions
They didn't though
They took on a 3 million forward who should be getting one.
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Ya.. at least it isn’t a 5 year commitment.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 24, 2011 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions
But
Now they have a pretty thin defensive core. So they are gonna have to spend some or all of that money to sign a free agent, which you always have to overpay. I mean they are looking at who now? Kaberle for at least 4 million? Errorhoff for at least the same and neither of those guys have the offensive skills of Campbell. He’s overpaid, granted, but there’s a reason he got that big contract. He’s good at hockey. I could see it if they hadn’t replaced a Brouwer with a guy who makes 3 million and has durability questions but they don’t even have that much cap space considering the holes in their lineup and the UFA’s available.
by Canuckelhead on Jun 24, 2011 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions
best way to explain the deal is:
$7.1 million off the books
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$1.1 million (the difference bewteen Olesz’s and Brouwer’s contracts)
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This gives the Hawks the $2mil extra to sign Sharp to a long-term contract and and added $4 million to sign/trade for a new stay-at-home defenseman.
Campbell will be sorely missed, but the team had an overabundance of puck moving d-men. It made sense to move him while the Hawks still could.
There's no such thing
As an overabundance of puck moving defensemen in today’s NHL. That’s the whole point. That and depth are the reasons the hawks won the cup and now they have neither.
by Canuckelhead on Jun 25, 2011 9:12 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
the roster hasn't been filled out...
and Hawks still have 3 puck moving defensemen (one could even argue that Seabs made that jump last year as well).
Best part is they won’t be scraping up against the cap next year, trying to figure out if they’d rather keep Sharp or Bolland. Allows the team to build more team depth in the long-term and gives us a slightly deeper prospect pool.
Are the Hawks a better team next year because of this move? That’ll depend on what StanBow has in store. Are they a better team 3 years down the road? Probably.
They’re really high on Leddy, I’d assume they’d continue to play Campoli, so that only leaves 1 spot anyways for them to fill out, with all that extra room. It’s not as bad as it seems.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 25, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Being high
On an unproven player is a pretty big risk when you’re talking about your third dman. The Canucks are pretty high on Tanev but I certainly wouldn’t want him in the third spot to start the season. Every team is hopeful in the offseason that players will step up. I bet Edmonton fans looked at their roster in the off season last year and thought that if just a couple guys stepped up theyd make the playoffs
by Canuckelhead on Jun 26, 2011 1:41 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m sure Hjarm——son is their 3rd D. Point taken, Leddy will probably fit in 4th just from a pure potential standpoint, and Campoli fifth.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 26, 2011 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
The only way it makes sense
Is because he wanted the two first rounders but that’s the moves of a rebuilding franchise, not a contender. Maybe it’s because they need to free up cap space to re-sign Sharp next year but the Blackhawks look considerably weaker to me. No depth throughout the line-up and a goalie who has played one good season. A lot of questions and wishful thinking when it comes to who will fill your line up.
by Canuckelhead on Jun 24, 2011 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Plus
They still need someone to fill Campbells minutes.
by Canuckelhead on Jun 24, 2011 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Not to mention
They took on a vastly overpaid forward so they didnt even get THAT much cap relief. Basically enough to secure Sharp.
by Canuckelhead on Jun 24, 2011 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions
and adding some pieces
Just having a core is not enough. Lu will have to have another Monster season and the playoffs are going to be brutal again. We need to work on managing injuries better in the playoffs.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 26, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
How do we manage injuries though? These things happen when we have to play 20 more games than other teams… compounded with the worst travels of any team in the league. It’s just one of those things where we are placed naturally, in a worse position than other teams.
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by Vancouverguy on Jun 26, 2011 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions

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