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I don't care one bit for your narrative, good sir

Did anybody else see the U.S. Open final round on Sunday? I did. I thought it was fantastic. I've been a Rory McIlroy fan for quite a while and was quite upset with his final round performance at Augusta in April. You might remember that he shot 65-69-70-80 at the Masters and blew a four shot lead on the final day to finish well off the leaderboard. People were questioning McIlroy's ability to compete in pressure situations.

Of course, at his next major, this U.S. Open, he won in a fashion similar to Tiger Woods' 2000 victory at Pebble Beach, where Tiger took a big lead wire-to-wire and won by 15. Rory won by 12 and shot 65-66-68-69 and set a number of tournament scoring records. He was, despite being just 21, absolutely surgical and shot a round in the 60s on the final day despite not needing to play aggressively and score. He simply needed to hang on, and he built on his score in the process.

Why I bring this up is just to show how the narrative can swing two ways. One month, your golfer, despite an obvious amount of talent, just simply can't compete when it counts and he fails. Two months later, your golfer wills his talent into a picture-perfect Father's Day story, and, oh boy, was NBC commentator Bob Costas trying to coax a staggering tribute to McIlroy's dad out of him in his post-round interview yesterday. All Rory wanted to talk about was getting drunk with his friends when he gets back home.

Star-divide

It's unfortunate that modern newspaper deadlines force sportswriters to come up with storylines to have the story ready to publish as soon as the event ends. Costas can, watching this young kid walk down the 18th fairway, immediately spin the story into a fairytale about the kid winning it for his dad and redeeming himself. It's so sappy and annoying, and a waste of the actually talented writers who have their talents wasted cranking out postcards for their readers instead of actually paying attention to the story in the game. I don't exactly know the story of why Rory won this past Sunday but stunk in the last round of the Masters, but nobody really bothered to ask, or bother to do the right analysis to find out. This is all completely applicable to the Boston Bruins Stanley Cup win over the Vancouver Canucks and the treatment some Canucks players and management have taken in the wake of the loss. Obviously, winning 15 games instead of 16 games means the Canucks weren't tough enough to win. It's all story-driven crap that serves no practical purpose. I like Cam Cole, but him and other writers suggesting that the Canucks not standing up for Daniel Sedin after he was punched by Brad Marchand is akin to a suggestion that the Canucks only lost because some idiot fan trimmed his playoff beard a day before the game. It's a bunch of superstition and nonsense.

Normally I wouldn't have an issue with this, but the narrative lends itself to the public conversation and validates the opinions of casual fans of the game who suggest that there is more going on in sports than weighted random number generators cranking out data.

Remember my Calgary friend who suggested that Ryan Kesler needed to get his act together, moments before Kesler torched the Nashville Predators like a car on Georgia Street? He complained that I hadn't put a blog post up about the Canucks recent Cup loss (which is due to a variety of reasons beyond that I'm too hurt to talk about hockey) so I'm going to respond to his email publically in bullet points.

Hello Cam,

I havn't read your thoughts after game 7. I looked on your writer blogs, and see nothing. I am sure your trends and such will cover up for poor play from Vancouver. Fact is , they should have won, had a 2-0 lead, 3-2 lead, home ice in Game # 7 and somehow blew it.

They did. I'm not too ashamed to admit that the Canucks lost 4 out of 5 to lose the Stanley Cup. It sucks, but 28 other teams in the NHL can't say the same thing. One thing I can say is that the Canucks managed the same series trend as the 2009 Detroit Red Wings, where the only game won on the road by either team in their series against Pittsburgh was Game Seven. Nobody questions Detroit's ability to win.

I thought Van may prove me wrong, but they did not disappoint me. The top players, Luongo, Sedins, Kesler did not perform up to expectations in the finals.

They didn't. What's amazing to me is that even though their star goalie couldn't make a save on the road and their three best players couldn't muster anything in the finals, the Canucks were a single game away from the Stanley Cup. This is a testament to how good of a job Mike Gillis did putting together the defense and the depth piayers.

Luongo will never get the confidence of the team. Too many chokes. They need to move him, get another solid goalie, and platoon the guy with Schneider
Sedins will never perform up to their talent, until the team protects them. Can you imagine Gretzky and Kurri taking that abuse. True teams don't turn the other cheek, they protect their stars especially if they are the type that can't protect themselves like Iggy and players like him.
Kesler gets a free ride from the press, regardless of your stats/ trends Cam, he didn't produce in the finals. He was constantly compared to Messier, and he didn't live up to it. Messier always came through when Gretzky was held in check. Kesler didn't come through when the Sedins failed.

Here is where we get into crazy narrative. I don't exactly get the logic behind the Luongo confidence crap. He played reasonably well in the series despite being frustrating at times and wasn't the difference in Game Seven. The major story among the goaltenders in this series was Tim Thomas.

For all we talk about how Roberto Luongo is some abomination of a playoff goaltender, consider that his save percentage in the postseason was .914. In his first 26 regular season games, his save percentage was also .914 and the team's record was also 15-11, yet the Canucks somehow, despite a goaltender who couldn't win games, managed to rally and win the President's Trophy. Playoffs are more of an issue with sample size than anything else, particularly when we ask why good teams didn't win.

Interesting that he also notes that Jarome Iginla would have protected himself, unlike the Sedins. Both the Sedins and Jarome Iginla are 0-1 in Stanley Cup Final Game Sevens, so the point is rendered arbitrarily moot. Also, Mark Messier was a cheap shot artist and since he won a pile of Stanley Cups nobody seems to care that he hacked, slashed, chopped, bit, and did whatever to players because it gave him an advantage. I wrote after Game Five that the Canucks had to continue to play the villain because "history vindicates the villain". This is what has happened to Mark Messier in the end. Ryan Kesler, despite not scoring, is still more valuable as a player who is trying to set up chances than one who is busy stepping in and fighting battles. The best enforcer is a good powerplay. It worked for the Canucks through most of the regular season and fell apart in the Finals. It happens.

The faking, biting, whining about the ref's ( Giles was pathetic with his comments ). You constantly embarrass the ref's, you will never get a break, they never know if you are faking or if it is real.

See above about Mark Messier.

I give the Sedins credit with their comments taking accountability. I truly feel bad for them, that their teammates allowed them to be abused. You will never win a cup when your stars get pushed around like they did.

It would have been funny to see how good the Sedins were as locker room motivational forces had the Canucks won Game Seven the same way they won Game Five, with the Sedins conspicuously absent. Again, this shows how the narrative dictates the importance of certain players to teams. The Canucks PDO (save percentage plus shooting percentage at even strength, a good measure of luck using a number that balances out over a large number of games) was 94.2%.

I never saw a team that gets hammered , that doesn't respond the next game, not necessarily with a win, but with a battle even in a loss. Total lack in character, and are only front runners. In Chicago it happened, and in Boston it happened. Luckily they got Chicago too far in a hole to recover, but is Bollard was healthy from Game 1, Van would have lost the series.

Chicago looked lost without Bolland, but the Canucks were also without their third line centreman. Injuries happen, and they suck.

Great to see teams like Boston with players with heart like Lucic, Horton, hard nosed players can win. That the NHL havn't ruined tough , hard hockey yet.

Teams have learned how Vancouver can be beat and if they don't address some of these issues, it will be even tougher for them next year.

It's true. I'm very happy for Milan Lucic. He's one of the few NHLers I've met and is a really good dude. He defied all the odds to become a Stanley Cup champion and it must be great for him to have been able to lift it in his hometown. Despite the fancy storytelling, Lucic had a minus-7 shot differential in Game Seven and was a non-factor for his team that game. He had three points all series, and, had the Canucks managed to win Game Seven like they won Game Five, would be one of the guys whose will to win might have been questioned by some hack writers when it was all over.

He was, however, more effective than Nathan Horton. It's funny that my friend included Horton's name. When Horton played, despite being a hard-nosed player with heart he can win, his team was down 0-2. He got knocked out of the series on a questionable hit. Sure, writers can talk about how Horton was an inspiration for his team, but really. If Game Seven ends differently, you can simply scratch Nathan Horton out and fill in Mason Raymond's name, who would have been such a lovely inspiration to the Canucks. Down Goes Brown's pre-emptive post on the Game Seven just shows how fill-in-the-blanks hockey writing can be.

The funny thing about the email is not what was contained in the writing, but one name it omitted. Tim Thomas was spectacular. Tim Thomas defied percentages all season, all playoffs, and, just when I thought regression would catch up to Thomas, he goes ahead and destroys the Canucks in the Cup Final. His series save percentage at even strength was .969. Thomas's play made his teammates look good and deservedly won the Conn Smythe Trophy.

As losers as the Canucks are, there's no use hanging their head in shame because they couldn't win. Despite the narrative and popular belief, the Sedin twins are still two of the most valuable players in the league, Roberto Luongo is still a good goaltender and the defense is one of the NHL's best units. If they can get Kevin Bieksa signed for cheap, a repeat run is possible. Teams have run into hot goaltenders since the beginning of playoff series', and the Canucks management needs to trust the process. To paraphrase Gillis, if you knock on the door a bunch of times, eventually you're going to break through, even if you're a soft team that has no respect for the game.

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Good work Cam

I thought this was going to be a response to Dan Shaughnessy’s awfully smug piece on SI.com today, which is truly vomit inducing. Don’t look it up.

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by GoodKeith on Jun 20, 2011 1:33 PM PDT reply actions  

I saw that, but only read it for laughs. Shaughnessy loves Boston. Only writes about how awesome Boston is.

Not worth getting too upset about.

Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.

by Jevant on Jun 20, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also

From a sports pov he’s kind of right. Boston fans have a right to be smug.

by Canuckelhead on Jun 20, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Considering

how bone dry that city was for championships,other than the Celtics, I can almost see your point.

I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?

by Smoboy41 on Jun 20, 2011 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

There are at least 3 sides to every story

Not that the media cares about that. They have to write the story that’s gonna sell. Which is a 4th side that isn’t usually based on actual reality.

Sometimes glass glitters more than diamonds because it has more to prove.

by Kungfuguy on Jun 20, 2011 1:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Good work Cam.

I have only glanced at a few of the writers’ post mortems, and it is obvious that hating on a team and being a cheerleader for your own extends to the press.

At least the Van media are not the cheerleaders the Boston ( and Chicago is also pretty bad ) writers are. Yeah, we get it, you are writing for the opposing fanbase.

But some of the shit folks like the Globe and Herald writers were spewing would get dismissed as trolldom at SBN.

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by vancitydan on Jun 20, 2011 1:57 PM PDT reply actions  

I am all for putting a bigger presence than Burrows on the top line though. Other than that, wow, what a sweet post, Cam!

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 20, 2011 3:29 PM PDT reply actions  

The recipe

for this kind of pseudo-journalism is very simple: make up an interesting story, and then tweak it and mold it to create the illusion that this “story” was the outcome of the events that happened on the ice. It’s a fallacy, and insults the intelligence of most of us. It is shoved down our throats, but we are so starved for a story, that we take the abuse.

Do we really have to be so stupid to believe that Rome’s hit on Horton rallied the Bruins to the extent that they destroyed the Canucks in the subsequent games? Never mind the injuries, the suspension, Tim Thomas, and the defensive game of Boston, that might have something to do with the outcome of the series.

How about the genious who discovered that Luongo’s comments caused Thomas to start playing like a superman, which led to the demise of the Canucks? As if Thomas just became the hot goalie overnight, following the infamous comment.

It’s sad really, that some journalists are so lame, that they have to resort to such cheap tricks. How about just sticking to facts?

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by AttilaS on Jun 20, 2011 4:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Do we really have to be so stupid to believe that Rome’s hit on Horton rallied the Bruins to the extent that they destroyed the Canucks in the subsequent games? Never mind the injuries, the suspension, Tim Thomas, and the defensive game of Boston, that might have something to do with the outcome of the series.

Never underestimate the rallying power of seeing your comrade laying KO’d on the ice and stretchered off.

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 20, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Bruins players even said they wanted to win it for Horton

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 20, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Bruins players even said they wanted to win it for Horton

Haha.
So, if Horton didn’t get injured, Luongo would have stopped more pucks, the Sedins and Kesler would have scored more goals, Thomas would have missed a few more saves. And let’s be honest: winning the Stanley Cup would not have been enough motivation for the Bruins…it just wasn’t THAT important….but Horton made it all worthwhile.

I get it now . How could I miss all this context? :)

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by AttilaS on Jun 20, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I completely agree with Attila. The Bruins had the talent and the right style to beat the Canucks, it didn’t hurt that they seemed to be more healthy. Horton’s hit might’ve been a rallying cry to fire them up, but I doubt that translates much into superior play on the ice.

Raymond had his back broken and that didn’t seem to do much more us. I’m sure in the locker room, they talked about winning it for Raymond, but the media chose not to focus on that hit and made it seem like we didn’t have a similar rallying cry as well. In fact, the media did their obligatory story and pretty much embargoed the rest of the controversy regarding the hit.

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by dallascanuck on Jun 20, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Of course

A player so concussed he could jump on a plane and travel to Vancouver. The Bruins sure pedalled some BS with that one.

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by Smoboy41 on Jun 20, 2011 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pfft, and as we know, there were no reasons for ANY team to win it for X. It’s a pointless narrative, created after the fact. Had the ‘nucks won, they would have won it for Salo, Lu, Manny, whoever. It’s a reason, but every team has reasons.

by Shazbot on Jun 20, 2011 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

BTW,

I don’t deny the possibility that such an injury can rally a team in certain close situations. When there is a close game, there is a chance that the tide can be reversed for short time, to score a goal and win a game.

But not in this final. The Bruins smoked the canucks and scored them during the last 5 games into oblivion. They didn’t need the Horton incident for that.

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by AttilaS on Jun 20, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, it was 0-0, 5 minutes into the game when the hit happened.

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 20, 2011 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Honestly

If twice we “let teams back into the series” because head hits took star players out, then the team needs to learn to strengthen the fuck up and put teams away when they are down. In game 3 after the hit they looked stunned at what happened, and similarly in the Chicago series.

Yes, teams want to avenge their fallen comrade, but it shouldn’t be that dramatic of a shift that the Canucks get thoroughly outplayed.

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Jun 20, 2011 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

And I’m saying it was a factor and that it was a failure by the Canucks. Or, one of them.

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 20, 2011 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Raymond had his back broken and that didn’t seem to do much more us

Well, Raymond being obliterated wasn’t enough to rally the Canucks. But believe you me, if Kesler’s shin bone would have been slashed in half by Chara, and shortly after, Henrick received a serious concussion from a Lucic sucker-punch, now that might have just done the trick in game 7 for the Nucks. As it stands now, Raymond alone wasn’t worth the Cup.

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by AttilaS on Jun 20, 2011 4:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Don’t think those things alone would’ve been enough either. Maybe if Chara decapitated Burrows and Luongo spontaneously combusted on top of all that, then we would’ve had enough inspiration to take home the cup.

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by dallascanuck on Jun 20, 2011 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clearly, it would have taken a murder to do it.

by Shazbot on Jun 20, 2011 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

i don't think the point...

of that statement was that it was the sole reason the B’s won… but u can’t say it didn’t motivate the team and made them play with more intensity… its the same reason the Hawks made the First round a series… rallying calls DO exsist and DO HELP motivate a team.. you can go back through sports history, in difference sports and see that it does help.

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by soupy's spin-o-rama on Jun 20, 2011 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well fuck, at least somebody agrees with me.

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 20, 2011 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

and how much does it suck...

that its a hawks fan… lol. but yea, i believe Rallying calls exist, but i also think that good teams find ways follow the rallying team to that next level and not let evolve. And i believe thats where all the “This team is mentally weak” talk stems from.

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by soupy's spin-o-rama on Jun 20, 2011 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with you too Sean - to a point.

 It is a rallying cry, but the Canucks let it become too much of one. If you realize your opponent is upping the intensity, you damn well better match it, especially in the playoffs (ESPECIALLY in the Finals).

Like I said before, it seemed almost like the Canucks felt bad after the hits, because they looked like Bambis out there – just taking everything and not giving any back

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Jun 20, 2011 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was

their MO all season, wasn’t it? Not to get sucked into all the after whistle bs.

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by Smoboy41 on Jun 20, 2011 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

By taking and not giving back I was referring to the actual game play, not between the whistle stuff.

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Jun 21, 2011 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good post

I’ve been cautiously avoiding anything hockey-related since Game 7 but I’ve glanced at some of the stories the MSM has been writing about the post-mortem Canucks and it seems like aside from a sane few, everyone wants significant changes made because there were somehow gaping holes in a team that won the President’s Trophy and came within 60 minutes of winning the Cup. That they “weren’t tough enough” or were “lacking in heart” or that “Luongo can’t win the big game”. And when they find some allegedly big flaw in the team, they then demand change – practically change for the sake of change.

To me, these notions are absurd and lazy. It’s basically trying to rationalize a loss that simply cannot be majorly blamed on anything but chance (small sample size), injuries (Hamhuis, Kesler, etc), a weak powerplay and Tim Thomas (with a Hasek-esque performance). Sure, Luongo was mediocre at best in four of those seven games, but he was spectacular in the other three – he could’ve been better, but he is certainly not why we lost. And yes, Horton was a great rallying point for the Bruins, but to think his injury single-handedly turned the tide of this series? Please. No, the Canucks simply lost to the better team; perhaps a healthy Canucks squad would beat a healthy Bruins team in a best-of-seven, but this is the playoffs and that simply was not the case.

I’m glad Gillis is our GM, because he clearly sees that pressing the panic button for coming undone in the Cup Final is not a smart response; this team was the most successful in franchise history and were circumstances different, could have won it all. The smart thing to do is to ignore the media who will be desperate to find something intrinsically wrong with the team, come back next year tweaked to be even better than before, and make another charge at the Stanley Cup.

The loss stings. The players themselves will undoubtedly be agonizing over it for quite a while. They’ll also be more experienced and motivated than ever before in 2012. Odds are, with the fantastic core we have already and an even-keeled GM and coach at the helm, we’ll be back soon enough.

by Canuckk on Jun 20, 2011 5:02 PM PDT reply actions  

I think you’re right. As much as I agree with trying to go out and get a power forward for the Sedins, I think that need is overblown. We have good reason to assume Henrik was playing hurt on top of the Sedins playing like shit. And we have confirmation that Kesler has been playing with pretty severe injuries (seriously, I’ve seen patients in post-op recovery look more healthy than Kesler, just looking at his face during the games, I had a real fear of him dropping unconscious on the ice any second). This team doesn’t need many changes, perhaps a few minor moves, but certainly nothing major. We have good depth overall, sometimes injuries just can’t be hedged against via personnel moves in the off season, our playoff run was a good example of that.

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by dallascanuck on Jun 20, 2011 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hockey is a funny game. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. I wish we could have won, but you can’t win them all.

Reporters can’t write themselves out of jobs, that’s all.

by Shazbot on Jun 20, 2011 6:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes

" Playoffs are more of an issue with sample size than anything else, particularly when we ask why good teams didn’t win."

This is an excellent point. Bruins fans may call it the talk of losers, but that was a seven game series. The Canucks were the best hockey team over an 82 game sample. Sample size is a problem in playoffs of any sport, and I say this as a fan of a team who won a championship this year.

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by kentcheesehead on Jun 20, 2011 7:30 PM PDT reply actions  

on the upside:
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by missy on Jun 20, 2011 7:35 PM PDT reply actions  

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

LOLOLOLOL

"Sometimes grown-ups have low self-esteem and get on guys and say stupid stuff. I think he has to be happy with his career. He did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that" - Captain Henrik Sedin, on Mike Milbury and his comments
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 21, 2011 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

An innocent question from an opposing fan.

I’ve read a lot of the posts on NM since the Final concluded. There has been a lot—A LOT— of time spent defending the team, the management, the fans, the city. There have been many, many comments about how unfair and biased the media coverage has been against the Nucks. And there have been many words spent on how great the Nucks played and simply came up short.

As a Chicago fan, I know from many years of rooting for and watching my teams that whenever our team loses, we “go after” the players on our teams who didn’t play well. We point out their poor effort or their mistake on a key play. (Heck, Hawks fans are STILL ticked off at Sharp for not burying that powerplay goal in overtime in game 7, even though Lu made a great save.) I’m not saying we turn against our team, but we have no problem saying out loud and loudly when our players have not performed as well as we would have liked.

I’m not looking for attacks here (nor examples of Chicago fans defending poor players) but I simply want to know: Do you Nucks fans have ANYthing negative to say about the Sedins or Kesler or Burrows or Lu in the Finals? The simple stats seem to suggest that these players did not do well. Yet, all I keep hearing is how good they were to get to within 60 minutes of the Cup, and how much you need to defend them from all the haters. I’m asking simply to get an understanding of the different fanbases’ mindsets. Again, I’m not looking for flaming here, just wondering how y’all sound when you look at your team critically.

Thank you Boston for saving us from a dreadful summer! Now, GO HAWKS!!!

by Preacher000 on Jun 20, 2011 7:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Kesler was injured. we now know that.
Yes, the Sedins disappeared in that series, but i think part of that was the Bruins completely shutting them down.
As for Lu, he did the best he could, given that our defence was getting injured and we only had 6 goals in 7 games.

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by missy on Jun 20, 2011 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

then again, i’m also one of the most zen people you will find on this site.

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I also ramble on Twitter every so often. (now with a new handle!)
"Whether it’s with his mouth or with his stick, Alex Burrows is going to end up pissing you off."
"He did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that." Henrik Sedin on Mike Milbury.

by missy on Jun 20, 2011 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're NM's version of our Stacie7

:-)

39 years of pain (1971 loss to Habs) vaporized by one OT goal.

by Badgerdano on Jun 20, 2011 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stacie is awesome, she’s over here all the time.
but yes, i’m generally a peacekeeper here, as well as a writer.

Nucks Misconduct writer, queen of inter-blogging etiquette.
I also ramble on Twitter every so often. (now with a new handle!)
"Whether it’s with his mouth or with his stick, Alex Burrows is going to end up pissing you off."
"He did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that." Henrik Sedin on Mike Milbury.

by missy on Jun 20, 2011 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

awww thanks missy

and you make an awesome peacekeeper and writer over here :)

It doesn't hurt to be optimistic. You can always cry later.

by stacie7 on Jun 20, 2011 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

but don't you need to put a little more blame on...

the back to back hart trophy winners/point leaders having a combined 5 points in the Finals? yea you guys pushed it to 7 games… but you have to agree they didn’t show up at all. and that can’t happen.

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by soupy's spin-o-rama on Jun 20, 2011 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes, that’s why i didn’t say it was ENTIRELY on the bruins shutting them down. i said “a part”.

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by missy on Jun 20, 2011 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

i must of missed that part...

lo siento missy

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by soupy's spin-o-rama on Jun 20, 2011 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

no problem

gotta read closely sometimes.

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by missy on Jun 20, 2011 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

we have had enough interactions....

for you to know that i’m not a big fan of details or close reading or any of that crazy talk. lol

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by soupy's spin-o-rama on Jun 20, 2011 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

heheheh.
meanwhile, i am very detail-oriented. for example, you have a spelling error up there.

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by missy on Jun 20, 2011 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

And this is where my question comes from.

Again here, even in your response to this, you bring up reasons for your players NOT performing well.

Maybe we’re just mean in Chicago (insert joke—several of them, I’m sure—here), but if our top two players came up invisible in the Finals, we’d be all over them for such a performance. But Nucks fans don’t seem to do that. At least not you intelligent types that post on NM. (See how nice I’m trying to be here? :)

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by Preacher000 on Jun 20, 2011 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes, i appreciate your attempts at being all nice and polite.

for me, however, as i said, i am way too calm. sure, there were problems, but they have already been discussed on probably 1000 comments over 8 stories on this blog since we lost.

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by missy on Jun 20, 2011 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can answer your question: our top line was not good enough. At all. They were beaten soundly..and diving and embellishing and I am disappointed in them. Line 2 was too injured. Line 3 I thought did an excellent job. The Sedins had to score more, especially on the PP which is their bread and butter and they failed to do so. I’d like to see them roid it up this summer and turn into beasts.
Lou flat out lost game 6 for us and at times needed to make bigger saves. But hell, without him the B’s would have kicked our asses in 6 or less.

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 20, 2011 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now was that so hard???

;)

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by Preacher000 on Jun 20, 2011 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

that was him, not me :P

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by missy on Jun 20, 2011 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

And the response was to him.

No reply fail here!

And the premise of my whole question was that I didn’t really see any criticism of the team from you guys in the 1000 comments. (Though I will say that there are many who don’t seem as fond of Lu as some others….)

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by Preacher000 on Jun 20, 2011 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it’s too soon for most people.
Personally, I really like our team. I’d just about keep the exact same squad next season if we could (minus Ehrhoff)

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 20, 2011 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

And yes, the hate for Lou is ON

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 20, 2011 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

"I think it’s too soon for most people"

I can see that, to a point. It’s just interesting to me how much the Nuck fans’ response has been one of defending and excusing, rather than being “tough” on the team.

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by Preacher000 on Jun 20, 2011 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

i think lots of the defending comes from the riot following Game 7, and media from the Canucks-hating bandwagon rubbing it all in our faces.

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by missy on Jun 20, 2011 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

and all the damned injuries.

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 20, 2011 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

see...

i don’t know how the coverage is up in Can. But yea they covered it here in Chi, and it was a lot of “we can’t believe this is happening… what a shame to such a great and beautiful city” now i wont lie i was drunk that night, happy you guys lost, and was laughing while watching the live coverage of the riots, but i don’t feel like many people, atleast intelligent ones… really think that the riots is what your city is about, we all saw how beautiful and great it was during the Olympics. and the fact that all Canadians are wayyy to nice to be truly trusted, lol, and know it was just a few dumb ass people that started shit, and the rest of the people just got entangled in the mess

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by soupy's spin-o-rama on Jun 20, 2011 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

See you guys might now

But there are plenty enough “journalists” and bloggers up here for whom the riot was the best thing to happen. You could honestly feel the gloating in some of their articles

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by Semi_Colon on Jun 20, 2011 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

*might not

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by Semi_Colon on Jun 20, 2011 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe they aren’t at that point yet? I know I’ve had it with FTF cause they are overly critical of their own team. If it was up to them, they would get rid of everyone (don’t ask me who they would replace them with) as soon as they made a single mistake.

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by Angy on Jun 20, 2011 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well if I was a Sharks fan I would be uber critical too. They can’t get over the hump. That has to be frustrating

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 20, 2011 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey now, we’ve made it past the 2nd round 2 years in a row now. I think we’ve made it past our hump. Now to just make it past the new hump that has grown.

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by Angy on Jun 20, 2011 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well the Sharks’ time is now to do so. What kind of $$$ do you think Setoguchi wants? How about Ian White? At least you have your core locked up.

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 20, 2011 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t know on the $ thing, that part of the deal always was over my head. Me – just give them whatever to keep them. But I know that’s not the right answer. :)

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by Angy on Jun 20, 2011 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

You guys are actually in good cap position.

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 20, 2011 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is what I hear – hopefully it will heal what ails us for this coming season to take all you suckers on! ha!! :)

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by Angy on Jun 20, 2011 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I forgot about White. Would it be a good idea for Vancouver to replace Ehrhoff with him and possibly find a better winger with the extra cash?

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by PKSube on Jun 20, 2011 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

i think we’re a little too positive for that year. we just made it to Game 7 of the SCF’s, after all. we just need a few more tweaks for ultimate glory.
or, as the others suggested, it’s too soon for us to tear apart the team.

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by missy on Jun 20, 2011 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

we just made it to Game 7 of the SCF’s

Exactly

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 20, 2011 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

"we just need a few more tweaks for ultimate glory"

Or perhaps a couple major ones (see, goaltender, Luongo).

What I’m wondering is how the team will start next season. They’ve just been through the longest postseason of (most of) their careers and there were injuries, and then there’s the whole “losing in the Finals depression” that some teams deal with. If they don’t come out on fire, I’m thinking your fans will be nervous.

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by Preacher000 on Jun 20, 2011 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

well, the tweaks can be major or minor, i left that part pretty vague.
as for now next season starts, we’ll just have to wait and see.

ps: name 1 team who would willingly take on Luongo’s contract.

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by missy on Jun 20, 2011 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Flyers? :)

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by Angy on Jun 20, 2011 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

they’re about to sign Bryzgalov though.

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by missy on Jun 20, 2011 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah – it was a joke at their neverending goalie issue. :)

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by Angy on Jun 20, 2011 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

ah, okay, didn’t catch on.

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by missy on Jun 20, 2011 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope
Or perhaps a couple major ones (see, goaltender, Luongo).

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by Semi_Colon on Jun 20, 2011 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

“we just need a few more tweaks for ultimate glory”

Or perhaps a couple major ones (see, goaltender, Luongo).

Booo! Now I know you’re full of it!

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 20, 2011 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

This was said in jest, mostly

I really don’t care what you do with Lu. He’s a good goalie in the regular season. I was making the comment more because he seems to be the only one you guys will ever pick on.

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by Preacher000 on Jun 20, 2011 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

ahh

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 20, 2011 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, but it’s like some have said..we have been hard on our guys already. heh. Kicking a dead horse.

Oh, and Tanner Glass is fucking useless!! God damn!!

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 20, 2011 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

"we have been hard on our guys already"

Not much, frankly. But that’s why I asked the question. It’s been interesting to see how different fanbases respond to different results. Lebron James and the Heat, the Nucks, the Hawks, and the rest of them. Watching the defense of Lebron, for instance, has been a study in psychology.

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by Preacher000 on Jun 20, 2011 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Personally, I take some consolation in the fact that so many of our guys were injured.

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 20, 2011 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Trust me

The Sedins have taken more than their fair share of shit over the years and they keep making their critics look like fools. I think people are a little leery of making bold critical statements about the Sedins since they usually end up making those people look like fools. They spent the first two thirds of their career here being called the sisters by almost the entire fan base.

by Canuckelhead on Jun 20, 2011 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Of course

ALL the diving and embellishing. No other player in the NHL would ever stoop to that.

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by Smoboy41 on Jun 20, 2011 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who said “ALL”?

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 21, 2011 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I did

It’s right up there. Geez, pay attention. ;)

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by Smoboy41 on Jun 21, 2011 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hi Preacher

Funny meeting you here…

As an outsider I found Cam’s post interesting. The only part that I would question is this:

One thing I can say is that the Canucks managed the same series trend as the 2009 Detroit Red Wings, where the only game won on the road by either team in their series against Pittsburgh was Game Seven. Nobody questions Detroit’s ability to win.

The big difference is the Wings had won the cup the year before and four times in the prior 10 years. It doesn’t seem like a reasonable comparison to make.

39 years of pain (1971 loss to Habs) vaporized by one OT goal.

by Badgerdano on Jun 20, 2011 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

very true

but Detroit is diminishing in power now, and there’s now a void in which a new team can step up and start a dynasty……

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by missy on Jun 20, 2011 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

And that would be the San Jose Sharks. :)

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by Angy on Jun 20, 2011 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Um, ok....

The “dynasty” part doesn’t exactly jump to mind when I think of the Sharks.

On a more serious note, my son is currently taking part in Joe Pavelski’s hockey camp. He’s still going to be on the team, right? I saw that the Sharks were parting with some players. (Pavelski hasn’t shown up yet—supposed to be here on Wednesday.)

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Pavelski is going no where. And I hope your son has a blast! :)

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by Angy on Jun 20, 2011 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

You didn’t say anything about Clowe! We are sort of coveting him at the moment to come play with our Swedish Twins

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by Semi_Colon on Jun 20, 2011 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

grrr! You leave Clowe alone! We like him.

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by Angy on Jun 20, 2011 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clowe? Oh hell yes!

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He’s ours. You cannot have him.

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by Angy on Jun 20, 2011 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

But we wants the precious!

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 20, 2011 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha! Stay away!

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by Angy on Jun 20, 2011 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

We’ll take the precious once the Sharks are dead!

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 20, 2011 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sharks don’t die. We’ve been around for millions of years!

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by Angy on Jun 20, 2011 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's amazing

What the right kind of persuasion can do

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by Semi_Colon on Jun 20, 2011 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Blackmail does not work on a personality such as his. :)

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by Angy on Jun 20, 2011 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh

But it doesn’t have to be him. All we have to do is get to Doug Wilson and force a trade

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by Semi_Colon on Jun 20, 2011 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

DW is the master of working trades to his benefit, not the other way around. So careful, you might end up on the bad side of the deal. :)

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by Angy on Jun 20, 2011 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nah, Gillis will just convince him that Ehrhoff is the bees knees and trade his rights to you guys for Cloew

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by Semi_Colon on Jun 20, 2011 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

the bees knees???

are you such he isn’t the cat’s pajamas?

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by soupy's spin-o-rama on Jun 20, 2011 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

ahem … we had him already .. remember? :)

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by Angy on Jun 20, 2011 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

But now he’s even better!

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by Semi_Colon on Jun 20, 2011 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do you think DW didnt’ watch the Finals? haha!! :)

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by Angy on Jun 20, 2011 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

yep, that’s the point.

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by missy on Jun 20, 2011 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like him … as an ex-Sharks player … but that’s it … there is no going back. :)

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by Angy on Jun 20, 2011 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Joe Pavelski

Best thing the Badgers ever did for the state of CA.

39 years of pain (1971 loss to Habs) vaporized by one OT goal.

by Badgerdano on Jun 20, 2011 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

What my son is having is pain!

The poor kid hasn’t touched the ice in almost 2 months and now they’re skating him to death. It’s great!!! It looks like it will be a great week with a lot of good skill and conditioning work. Hope we get to meet Joe.

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by Preacher000 on Jun 20, 2011 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

The "dynasty" part doesn’t exactly jump to mind when I think of the Sharks.

bingo!
i was more thinking the Canucks…..

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by missy on Jun 20, 2011 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

No! I disagree completely.

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by Angy on Jun 20, 2011 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

well, of course you do!
btw, Sharks need to make the SCF’s first.

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by missy on Jun 20, 2011 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

The season coming up. It will be our year! :)

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by Angy on Jun 20, 2011 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am so surprised we beat the Sharks in 5. Unreal.

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 20, 2011 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah … your arena helped you out there. But nevermind that. :)

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by Angy on Jun 20, 2011 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yay stanchion yay!!

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 20, 2011 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stanchion has become the evil word of this season.

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by Angy on Jun 20, 2011 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

i love what Puck Daddy had in the SCF preview:
“Both teams have used stanchions to eliminate players.”

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by missy on Jun 20, 2011 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unfair advantage!!

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by Angy on Jun 20, 2011 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nah

that was the spirit of Luc Bourdon helping out.
RIP Luc.

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by missy on Jun 20, 2011 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sharks

Were pretty injured. Probably worse than us in the SCF

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by Semi_Colon on Jun 20, 2011 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah they were. But I think by the time this year comes around, most players have some sort of injury they are keeping hidden as much as they can.

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by Angy on Jun 20, 2011 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had forgotten about the Sharks’ injuries

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 20, 2011 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well yeah

But you guys were very very banged up. I cringed when I saw that injury list.

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by Semi_Colon on Jun 20, 2011 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

So did I. It really is amazing what the players will work thru for the Cup. Just truly amazing.

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by Angy on Jun 20, 2011 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't you need to win a Cup first?

Ooooo, sorry! (Evil laugh!)

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by Preacher000 on Jun 20, 2011 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

touché

but we are well on our way there!

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by missy on Jun 20, 2011 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

Also, why do people keep thinking that we need to be told to look at our team critically?

Maybe you haven’t been reading the comments close enough because there has been a lot – A LOT – of time spent debating whether Luongo is the goat, or what could have been wrong on the PP, or if AV is to blame, or why the Sedins vanish against tight checking teams, etc, etc.

Also, we just lost a game 7 in the Stanley Cup Finals and then a bunch of assholes went on a destruction spree through downtown Vancouver. Oh, and public perception of this team is just about in the gutter. Forgive us if we don’t want to focus on too many of the negatives right now.

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by Semi_Colon on Jun 20, 2011 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow.

I didn’t mean to upset you.

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by Preacher000 on Jun 20, 2011 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry

I’m not really upset – I’ve already been way worse than that and now I’m just more numb to everything. Its just that we’ve heard things like this quite a lot these playoffs. Add to that everything else that has been said by the media, other fans, plus being able to hear fans of certain teams rubbing their hands in glee over the riot and it kind of makes you over-saturated a bit

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by Semi_Colon on Jun 20, 2011 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sure you didnt

But Semi’s right. No fan base could be more critical than the Canucks and we are still just a little sensitive around here. But if you’ve seem any of the highly critical posts about Lu, Errorhoff or the Sedins you wouldn’t be asking. Just saying.

Daniel Sedin on Mike Milbury: "He made a bad comment about us, calling us women. I don’t know how he looks at women. I would be pretty mad if I was a woman."

by Tink for Nucks on Jun 20, 2011 8:15 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Preacher,

I think it’s a consequence of the city we live in. Vancouver is 24/7 Canucks, everyday, and the worst part is, most of the MSM is already quite asinine in their writing (see: Van Sun, the Province, G&M, everyone except Jason Botchford). We don’t elect to be the calmer voice (aside from during games), but you do realise that for whatever reason, this fishbowl + MSM atmosphere has caused many players to have braincramps cos they can’t handle the pressure (see: Cloutier, Bert, Nazzy, the 15 goaltenders between McLean and Luongo…).

So as a knowledgable fanbase, we don’t have to become anymore critical – MSM does it for us. Look at Gallager when he was bitching when we had those long winning streaks during the regular season – he’ll go off and say sth like “but can the Canucks do this? Can they fly?” It is an absolutely acidic atmosphere if anyone believes that shit, and if we take NM as a “community”, not a shooting gallery, that’s why NM on average, is less critical in its tone compared to other SB sites…

Guys (and girls), is that a fair assessment of NM?

by nucklinBadger on Jun 20, 2011 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

i like this explanation.

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by missy on Jun 20, 2011 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think

We can pretty critical when we need to be though. At least I can ;)

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by Semi_Colon on Jun 20, 2011 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think missy nailed it earlier. President’s Trophy winners. Made it to Game 7 of the Finals.

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 20, 2011 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

Hard to complain too much after that season. Just the way the last 5 games went was a little, hell who am I kidding – was very disappointing.

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by Semi_Colon on Jun 20, 2011 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Except game 5. LAPPY!!!

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 20, 2011 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well yes

But I was just painting them all with one brush, because that’s all the rage these days!

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by Semi_Colon on Jun 20, 2011 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

ha!

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 20, 2011 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't you mean

Tarring them with the same brush? As a precursor to the feathers of course.

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by Tink for Nucks on Jun 21, 2011 9:02 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Except Game 5

Bloody SO – Luongo

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by Kieran gunn on Jun 22, 2011 1:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Now this explanation makes sense to me.

Thank you, nucklin for getting me to realize that you do indeed have a different atmosphere there than other cities. I’ve always heard that playing for the Canadiens (Canadians? neither suddenly looks correct to me) was the worst pressure cooker in hockey. But I can’t imagine what a guy like Luongo goes through when you have no other major sports teams to root for/attack each week. And while he still makes dumb comments on a seemingly regular basis, I actually feel sorry for the guy.

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by Preacher000 on Jun 20, 2011 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Preacher,

I get where you’re coming at, I went to college at Wisconsin and was surrounded by all sorts of Illinois people. If I can conversely explain to Van fans, Chicago… is basically so damn big where most of the population goes about their own mob business with a “stay out of my way” attitude (see: Rob Emmanuel). In this atmosphere, the only way you can draw attention to yourself, and thus the critiques at SCH, is being as caustic, asinine, or whatever you can think of to draw ppl’s attention to, before anyone would bat an eye to notice. Hence, the birth of that douche, Rob Blageovich(?).

Preacher, fair shake of Chicago MSM?

by nucklinBadger on Jun 20, 2011 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

close...

your missing the part wheere the reason we didn’t win the SC this b.c. we didn’t have big buff, and burrish, to bring “physical play” to the team… the bulls lost due to derick rose shooting to much, eventhough nobody else on the team wanted to put up a shot, the cubs are bad b.c. they play to many day games, and the Sox are awful b.c. they don’t a 3 sq. city block bar attached to their stadium.

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by soupy's spin-o-rama on Jun 20, 2011 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

so, basically, all the major league Chicago teams sucked this year?

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by missy on Jun 20, 2011 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually,

the Bears came within a game of the Superbowl. The Hawks made the playoffs coming off of winning the Stanley Cup, and the Bulls had the best record in the NBA and came up a series short of the Finals.

But yes, for Chicago, this was a down year.

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by Preacher000 on Jun 20, 2011 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

ah, so aside from the Hawks, your other teams were like the Canucks?

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by missy on Jun 20, 2011 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

yea except...

we weren’t hyped to win it all before the season, and us fans didn’t get a false sense of entitlement from the get go…

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by soupy's spin-o-rama on Jun 20, 2011 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

yep, makes sense.

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by missy on Jun 20, 2011 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

the last jab was...

for that gif that sean put up…

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by soupy's spin-o-rama on Jun 20, 2011 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good one!

Winning gives you the right to get off a good burn.

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by Preacher000 on Jun 20, 2011 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, i can come up with good jokes every so often.
although many people here are surprised when i do…..

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"He did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that." Henrik Sedin on Mike Milbury.

by missy on Jun 20, 2011 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Though I just unintentionally used the word "burn"

which, if I were clever, would be a riot joke, right?

But I’m also not that mean.

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by Preacher000 on Jun 20, 2011 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

i thought of your usage of the word “burn” as in a joke. you’re in the clear right now.

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by missy on Jun 20, 2011 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

as in this kind of burn.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46XAUsbn55Q

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by missy on Jun 20, 2011 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Another good one!

“the super good burn”

How do you find these things so fast???

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by Preacher000 on Jun 20, 2011 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

these are all things i’ve seen before.
when i need it, i know where to find it.
i also often go on spurts of watching related videos of certain things on Youtube.

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by missy on Jun 20, 2011 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

But Python and 70s show in one thread?

You ARE amazing.

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by Preacher000 on Jun 20, 2011 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

i’m a Python fan, and That 70’s Show was awesome.

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by missy on Jun 20, 2011 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agree on both

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by Preacher000 on Jun 20, 2011 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

well...

we took u guys to a game 7 even though we had no bus. being there, the bulls made it to the ECF, the cubs are AWFUL!!! the sox are not to much better but at least have talent… i wouldn’t say awful, but u would never believe that from the media

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by soupy's spin-o-rama on Jun 20, 2011 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ahhh…. I get you. So instead of one major league team causing you to want to pull your hair out (like in Van), you have… let see, Hawks/Bears/Cubs/Sox/Bulls = 5 teams that causes you to want to pull your hair out.

So there, the cultural differences between the two cities is that we can switch off the TV if Canucks tank. But in Chi if there is a paucity of poor teams/dumb plays, it’s enough to drive the average Chi fan up the wall due to incessant media coverage of these poor teams/dumb plays.

Makes sense ;). Though if you think about it that’s basically the same in all N American cities with multiple sports teams. See: Toronto / Atlanta

by nucklinBadger on Jun 20, 2011 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

somewhat...

except the media in Atlanta is not bad, and i don’t know about the TOR media outside of the leafs… the only real cities with media like ours i would say is NY/Bos/L.A/Phily

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by soupy's spin-o-rama on Jun 20, 2011 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like I said, I appreciated you reminding me that you only have one team to consume your sports fandom

But if you listen to Chicago sports radio, you’ll hear enough angst to think there are riots going on just about every day!

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by Preacher000 on Jun 20, 2011 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

"the only way you can draw attention to yourself, and thus the critiques at SCH, is being as caustic, asinine, or whatever you can think of to draw ppl’s attention to"

I don’t think so. At least, it’s not the ONLY way. Typically, Chicagoans appreciate players who play their butts off, politicians who get positive results, and people who work hard. As for SCH, cleverness is probably the most appreciated trait. (Now that may mean clever in ripping apart another team or clever in evaluating a player. Or clever in photoshop work.)

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by Preacher000 on Jun 20, 2011 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

True, probably not the only way, I take that back.

by nucklinBadger on Jun 20, 2011 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

the photoshopping is great, CNS is cool.

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"He did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that." Henrik Sedin on Mike Milbury.

by missy on Jun 20, 2011 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would second that

Now if only he would use is powers for good instead of evil

by Canuckelhead on Jun 20, 2011 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Works

for me.

I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?

by Smoboy41 on Jun 20, 2011 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

WTF?

A post mentioning Dan Cloutier has been up for nearly 3 hours and there has been no rage posting from CC, I am disappointed

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by PKSube on Jun 20, 2011 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Poor lad

I believe he actually has a job now. No time for drunken antiCloutier diatribes.

I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?

by Smoboy41 on Jun 20, 2011 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Honestly I think we’ve (well me) have been pretty fair throughout the finals. In the aftermath of the clusterfuck that was everything involved with game seven, I’ve tried to walk a careful line of recognizing what the team accomplished and where they failed. There are no shortages of where they failed and you have to point the finger at the salary guys immediately. The Sedins disappeared and posed no threat; considering they were on fire against the Sharks I credit the Bruins just as much as I criticize them. Burrows was hit or miss at best. Kesler couldn’t do it on his own and his wingers (Raymond and Higgins) both picked a bad time to do nothing. Once you’re outside of the top six it explains why our third line lead them in game winners. Luongo we’ve addressed already but I don’t have an answer for his play other than it ranged wildly from lights out to ‘I need to punch a hole in the wall.’ I’m not sure many can explain that.

All of which leads me to criticize the coaching which is generally where I save my venom for.

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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 21, 2011 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

damn av haters....

he coached the team to the president’s trophy and game 7 of the SCF…while using 489329 different players yet! Obviously he was doing something right.

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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 21, 2011 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I knew I’d get your attention Twitch. ;)

Keep in mind I’m not saying he’s a bad coach, but for years I’ve questioned his ability to adapt in playoff games. It’s one thing to have an entire summer to shake loose from a defensive mindset, it’s another to come back to the rink after the Bruins blow you up in game three with a different approach. Of course you rely on the lines and plays that brought you that far, but that doesn’t mean you steadfastly commit to them when the other team has it wrapped up either. I also question the way he treats certain players and seems to thrive on elevating the mediocre. The life of an NHL coach is shitty, we know this. It’s not his fault the players didn’t perform, but it is his job to get the best out of them and when I see some epic implosions alongside some quality hockey throughout the playoffs and then again in the final seven games, it’s natural to question what precisely the puppetmaster is doing.

But don’t worry, with that Cup run he ain’t going anywhere. It just gives me a solid target for another season!

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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 21, 2011 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

my only beef with AV

is and has always been his ridiculous fear of using a Time Out. And yeah, sometimes he’s a tad slow to adapt to changing needs in-game…but over all he’s a oodles better than his predecessor, and there’s not many coaches out there i’d want to replace him with. Oodles is a mathematical term, btw, that means shit-ton.

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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 21, 2011 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Completely fair, I wouldn’t know who to replace him with either. And I agree he’s better than Crawford, but my lone concern remains Crawford pissed away the WCE years because he couldn’t run a defensive scheme to save his ass. I’m concerned (as I am every summer) that it’s another year of the team core getting older without taking a step closer. That was more accurate last summer than now obviously, so AV naturally deserves a summer to think out his style and maybe evolve with what lessons were learned, but if this team takes a step back in 2012? I’m sorry, I’d cut that chord immediately.

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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 21, 2011 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

And to that end, if VAN had lost to Chicago or Nashville I would have been trumpeting canning him too.

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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 21, 2011 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hate to say it, but in that scenario I would be calling for his head as well

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 21, 2011 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

don't think

i’d disagree with either of u if we had…but the fact is, we didn’t and the team showed that it’s still behind the coach. I think he’s got one more year of the room’s ear at least.

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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 21, 2011 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just depends on what happens in the upcoming season. The big ticket players got schooled and have some lessons to learn. We need to see it. Ditto with AV. I need to see some evolution from the successes and failures of this spring.

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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 21, 2011 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Isn't the concern

That this team under this coach has a tendency to lose composure in the playoffs? It happened in all the Chicago series (yes, including this year) and it happened again in the Boston series. Also, why do you think the team is full of guys who try to embellish calls? Is that his answer for the slashes the Sedins etc. are taking? What’s the deal with his less than sound roster choices that end up being a detriment to the team when we need our depth most? In the finals we could have used a confident Cojo who can play on the wing and another offensive Dman in Ballard.

by Canuckelhead on Jun 21, 2011 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

They have a tendency to lose composure period. That is most definitely a concern.

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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 21, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

That

is often a function of coaching. AV needs to get better at player management. He’s a great tactician and excellent in prep, but I just can’t shake the feeling he isn’t good at managing the team and their emotions in-game.

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by Canuckles on Jun 21, 2011 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also

If we see that the Canucks lose composure badly when you give them little chops on the back of the legs etc. obviously other coaches see it and are getting their players to exploit it. The problem is that all the leadership is still complaining about it, validating the players feeling cheated. When what they should be doing is telling them to suck it up and stop reacting at all. Sometimes a new voice is needed to get players over the hump. Not even a better voice, just a new one.

by Canuckelhead on Jun 21, 2011 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sometimes a new voice is needed to get players over the hump. Not even a better voice, just a new one.

Ding ding

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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 21, 2011 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

What better lesson does he need than this spring, starting with Chicago and finishing with Boston?

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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 21, 2011 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I really hope Gillis sits the guys down again and has a nice long talk about things that happened in the Finals, and earlier. Way too much embellishment. It was definitely a detriment

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Jun 21, 2011 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

hurt our ability

to get calls. For all the talk of cutting the crap after the whistles and focusing on letting our play speak for itself, it seems that came off the rails this post-season.

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by Canuckles on Jun 21, 2011 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

He better

Figure out a way to beat tight checking teams. Those were our Achilles heel this year.

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Jun 21, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed completely

If Kesler doesn’t go into beast mode and put this team on his back in one of the most incredible individual performances in playoff history, I doubt we get past Nashville.

by Canuckelhead on Jun 21, 2011 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don't forget

Lu was pretty money too.

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notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal

by Canuckles on Jun 21, 2011 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah but no one else could score. Hard to win if you don’t score

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Jun 21, 2011 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lu was pretty money all playoffs

So it goes without saying. The games where he wasn’t are well documented.

by Canuckelhead on Jun 21, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Two of those games (game four @ Chicago and game three @ Boston) were a complete team failure. That’s where AV has to be held accountable.

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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 21, 2011 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

yup

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notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal

by Canuckles on Jun 21, 2011 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am actually quite miffed at the Sedins. More for their inability to adapt and rise above situations.I saw them do that some in the SJ series and it worked beautiuflly

by canuckgirl on Jun 21, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

this

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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 21, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Their issue

Is with tight checkers. They couldn’t get anything done against Nashville either. Thought they would have learned from that. Apparently not

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Jun 21, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

"if you’ve seem any of the highly critical posts about Lu, Errorhoff or the Sedins you wouldn’t be asking."

Prove it. Show me ONE blogger on here who has been critical of the Sedins play in the Finals. I don’t mean just some comment in a game thread. I’ve read almost all your post-series blog posts and other than Lu, no one called out the Sedins for playing poorly over the course of the series. (And even the one on Lu was hardly critical.)

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by Preacher000 on Jun 20, 2011 8:29 PM PDT reply actions  

sorry dude

but i’m not thinking we’re critical enough to satisfy your lust for that kind of thing.

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by missy on Jun 20, 2011 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

and besides

http://youtu.be/WlBiLNN1NhQ

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by missy on Jun 20, 2011 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the laughs, Missy.

Can’t help but enjoy Python!

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by Preacher000 on Jun 20, 2011 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

i love Python.

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by missy on Jun 20, 2011 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hacked the top line and others for diving and embellishing.

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 20, 2011 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes you did, sir.

I stand corrected on your one comment in your post about the diving.

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by Preacher000 on Jun 20, 2011 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

And then

the rest of us pointed at Sean and laughed.

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by Smoboy41 on Jun 20, 2011 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not critical enough? Not critical at all!

Actually, I’m not really much of a hater (though Bieksa and Burrows make me physically ill with their crap), but I’m not even talking critical. I’m thinking more along the lines of “honest.”

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by Preacher000 on Jun 20, 2011 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok, so tell me "honestly"...

What do you think of Chris Campoli on this play?

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 20, 2011 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think

He did a pretty bang up job!

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by Semi_Colon on Jun 20, 2011 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

excellent pass, Chris! WOOOO!!

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 20, 2011 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

now that was just mean sean....

i was doing my best to be nice and everything… and then you had to pull this out… lol

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by soupy's spin-o-rama on Jun 20, 2011 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

it’s hard to resist sometimes, gotta admit.

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by missy on Jun 20, 2011 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just trollololol’d on our own site?

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 20, 2011 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s unpossible

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by Semi_Colon on Jun 20, 2011 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z4m4lnjxkY

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by missy on Jun 20, 2011 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh man, i just got rick-rolled!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAs8EKOZhv0&feature=related

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by missy on Jun 20, 2011 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

it is hard sometimes...

but classless fan bases can’t ever play nice! lol jk

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by soupy's spin-o-rama on Jun 20, 2011 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, HERE WE GO! haha

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 20, 2011 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol...

i played super drunk troll after game 7 of our series… i’ve done enough of that for a few months

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by soupy's spin-o-rama on Jun 20, 2011 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

To be serious in answer to your question...

I thought it was a bad play. He screwed up and it cost us the game/season. There’s no denying it. His play over the course of the series wasn’t bad, but this play definitely sucked. And we all said it in Chicago.

But I’ve asked about totally disappearing for a series like the Sedins did. And others on your team. But the most I ever hear about is injuries and officiating.

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by Preacher000 on Jun 20, 2011 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

well to be honest did I expect more from the Sedin’s? Sure of course I did. But then I have to think about it a bit. Thomas was on fire and when he gave up a rebound the D pounced all over it and cleared it usually- I saw many times each game where if it had been any other time the puck would have been in the net (from all players but the Sedin’s included). I also had to think that if a team is going to attempt to shut down a line it is their line. I was actually thinking that it would fall more to the 2nd and 3rd lines to get the job done. Now you would usually hope that they can overcome that but they didn’t. That could be b/c of Thomas or they didn’t deliver.

by BW79 on Jun 20, 2011 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

"That could be b/c of Thomas or they didn’t deliver."

In Chicago, we’d tend toward the “didn’t deliver” view. (But like I said, we’re mean!)

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by Preacher000 on Jun 20, 2011 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol not necessarily mean just different :P

I tend to be the type of person that always looks at all sides of an argument so unless it is a clear blunder of some kind I tend to try to figure out why a player isn’t producing rather than jump all over them. But not everyone does that :) Some might say I am too soft because I am a woman but if I feel criticism is due I will certainly give it. – cough Tanner Galss cough and Lu in game 6 :)

by BW79 on Jun 20, 2011 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

i'm going to go with...

your too soft cuz ur candian… like i said before… you guys and girls… are way to nice, i always think you have a sinister ulterior motive

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by soupy's spin-o-rama on Jun 20, 2011 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

just watch

when the fresh water reserves become much more valuable than oil, Canada will become the world superpower.

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by missy on Jun 20, 2011 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

lmao

yes we will take over the world one polite smile at a time ;)

by BW79 on Jun 20, 2011 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like I said above

I think the Sedins would be taking more criticism if they hadn’t proved so many critics wrong in the past. This market was so critical of them for so many years and all they’ve done is make those people look foolish.

by Canuckelhead on Jun 20, 2011 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's a third pairing defenseman making a third pairing defenseman mistake

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by Detroit Must Die on Jun 22, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Has anyone even done a series/season wrap yet?

Besides Dan and Yankee’s post on Luongo? I don’t think they’ve gotten to it yet. Wounds are still fresh.

And everyone knows Dan is always very positive about the team

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by Semi_Colon on Jun 20, 2011 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it’s being done, but I won’t say by who

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 20, 2011 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I usually round out the team in a season recap by position but honestly feel too burned out to approach it with much gusto, especially with the draft and free agency coming up shortly.

If you’d like to take a crack at it, go for it :)

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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 21, 2011 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think anyone needs to prove anything. And maybe they just aren’t ready yet.

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by Angy on Jun 20, 2011 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmm
Prove it. Show me ONE blogger on here who has been critical of the Sedins play in the Finals.

Not sure if you noticed, but we tend to express those critiques directly in games – see game threads for SCF games 3,4,6 and 7 ;). I noticed that NM game threads have way more comments than most SB sites. I think we have variations of:

- fuuuuuuuuuuccccccccccccckkkkkkkkkkk
- dammmmmmmmitttttttttttttt
- Erhoff i want you gone!
- Hank/Dank fail // facepalm
- Oh Luo..// facepalm

Secondly, we tend to not feel the need to repeat these critiques after the games – it’s a west coast thing – we pride ourselves in conservation/efficiency, even in critiques. // smug grin.

by nucklinBadger on Jun 20, 2011 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well

To be fair he did say no comments, just straight up front page posts

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Jun 20, 2011 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

My hot/cold lists were pretty biting at times. No pun intended

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 20, 2011 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also your injury lists

I remember a couple people getting upset about how you had Horton listed! You can piss ’em off like no one Sean.

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by Semi_Colon on Jun 20, 2011 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh, well I have a way with words! Not really a sensitive type sometimes :)

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 20, 2011 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

That'e the

one thing our man Sean got right. Serious concussion, my ass.

I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?

by Smoboy41 on Jun 20, 2011 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s already over his symptoms! WTF

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 21, 2011 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m still kind of cheesed about that whole thing. Not his injury, obviously, but the whole “releasing” that he had a severe concussion right before the suspension hearing

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Jun 21, 2011 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Imagine if the Canucks had done that

We’d be getting killed in the media right now. Meh, water under the bridge at this point.

by Canuckelhead on Jun 21, 2011 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Let's hope

Shanahan knows what he’s doing, cuz Murphy was incompetent in the playoffs.

I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?

by Smoboy41 on Jun 21, 2011 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

i think the alcohol is making me much too easily entertained right now:
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@APolishBeauty @dwkm BREAKING NEWS: Winnipeg NHL Team to be named “Winnipeg NHL Team”

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by missy on Jun 20, 2011 9:07 PM PDT reply actions  

With the face of Bettman as logo? :O

by nucklinBadger on Jun 20, 2011 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

aww, Theoden just died.
guess what movie i have on in the background while i’m typing on here?

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by missy on Jun 20, 2011 9:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Kinda ot

But also kinda related to in the sense that it’s the same genre. Have you seen Game of Thrones yet? Awesome stuff.

by Canuckelhead on Jun 20, 2011 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

i’ve heard of it, but haven’t watched it.

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by missy on Jun 20, 2011 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you like LOTR

You should like it. A lot. Not that they are really similar in terms of plot points or even “mood” but it’s a great show.

by Canuckelhead on Jun 20, 2011 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Eowyn….my body is broken..”

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 20, 2011 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just started watching it :) I have all of the episodes on my PVR and just started watching them yesterday :) Seems to be following the books quite well and I am enjoying it so far :)

by BW79 on Jun 20, 2011 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

this is mean, but still clever
MojoFitness Mojo Fitness
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Tim hortons just came out with a new coffee called the “Canuck”. It comes without a cup! #nhl #bruins #canucks

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by missy on Jun 20, 2011 9:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Heheheh
Hahahaha!
FUUUUUUUCK
:)

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 20, 2011 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Comes out of the machine and falls straight down onto the ground without any provocation

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by PKSube on Jun 20, 2011 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

they’ll have an employee feed it to you by hand, but if your teeth get anywhere near their fingers they’ll complain loudly

by Passive Voice on Jun 20, 2011 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

has anyone seen

waach since Wednesday?

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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 21, 2011 8:23 AM PDT reply actions  

probably crying in a corner or something

the big guy loves this team more than anyone I know…

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by Canuckles on Jun 21, 2011 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Total Agreement

I agree entirely with your assessment. I have heard since I began watching hockey (quite some years ago) the sentiment that “a hot goalie can steal a series in the Stanley Cup.” I have heard it so often that I thought it was axiomatic. Not, apparently, if the team that gets stolen from is the Vancouver Canucks. My thoughts before the series started was that Vancouver looked beaten up from all of the post-whistle crap that they were obliged to put up with and only got worse in the finals and that Tim Thomas scared the hell out of me. Not because he is such a great goalie, which he is despite being a question mark at the beginning of the season, but because he was already red hot and stealing games in the earlier rounds. The Horton hit did seem to give the Bruins the life and energy they were so clearly lacking in games one and two and although a bad hit was so marginally bad that I was shocked that the NHL chose that moment to decide that they had to raise the standard of punishment to get this sort of hit out of the game. Really? Boston won the game and were, in the end, the better team but I still prefer skill and speed and skating as personified by the Canucks when on their game to the whack and hack crap that the valiant band of brothers, the Bruins, dished out. Strength of will and muscle will always be a part of the game and the Canucks could improve in that area but, hopefully, not at the expense of “the beautiful game.” Finally, over the past three seasons I have become an enormous Mike Gillis fan. I believe that his vision for the team will take it to a place where I wll be delighted to watch it and his plan and blueprint are well within reach of achievement through sensible cap management and minor league development. I look forward to the moves he makes this summer and, with confidence and optimism to the coming season.

by John Andress on Jun 21, 2011 8:50 AM PDT reply actions  

If teams

Know that hacking the Canucks is the way to beat them then don’t expect it to stop anytime soon. They need to figure a way to counter that. I would disagree that Thomas “stole” the cup. We got outplayed in every facet of the game.

by Canuckelhead on Jun 21, 2011 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Which is why a big truck is needed with the Sedins

a speedy truck with good hands. Any of those in the UFA list? Sorry I am not knowledgable enough to do the capgeek thing…

by canuckgirl on Jun 21, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

One issue I have

Is that it seems we need an escort type with the Sedins to protect them from just getting beat on,and we need to protect Lu in case he has an off night. That’s a lot of ice to protect and still get an offense going.

Also Sedins need to do PKs, srsly

by canuckgirl on Jun 21, 2011 12:00 PM PDT reply actions  

It comes with playing the villain.

On the upside, if you win, you get to rub it in the face of everybody that tried to vilify and belittle you. Prove all the doubters wrong, and brag about how you stood alone, beat all the odds.

Unfortunately, if you play the villain and lose, you have to put up with all the celebration coming from all quarters of the hockey world that you lost.

Sucks.

PS. Your friend in Calgary is an idiot.

Blackhawks bleed Red & White.
We are all Canucks...including Toews, Sharp, Keith, Seabrook, Brian Campbell...need I go on?

by mhsilver on Jun 21, 2011 7:30 PM PDT reply actions  

They did. I’m not too ashamed to admit that the Canucks lost 4 out of 5 to lose the Stanley Cup. It sucks, but 28 other teams in the NHL can’t say the same thing. One thing I can say is that the Canucks managed the same series trend as the 2009 Detroit Red Wings, where the only game won on the road by either team in their series against Pittsburgh was Game Seven. Nobody questions Detroit’s ability to win.

a red herring and poor comparison. Nobody question’s Detroit’s ability to win because they have won it all, often.

Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.

by Detroit Must Die on Jun 22, 2011 12:14 PM PDT reply actions  

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