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Does My Ass Look Big In This NHL Team?

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Henry Rollins used to say "Does my ass look big in this state of the union address?" when he'd discuss his cringing, powerless embarrassment whenever President Bush would speak publicly on behalf of Americans. As if to suggest when the President can't pronounce "nuclear" the mistake makes all the innocent people he represents look like morons.

This morning I kept returning to a similar phrase: "Does my ass look big in this NHL team?"

It was one of several things I thought about on the walk to work. I often chat with myself during the trek to the train because it passes the time and, hey, why talk to other people? When the conversation is confined in my skull, I sound brilliant and my answers are always profoundly insightful.

Since I'm struggling to enjoy life today I'll share the conversation with you.

Full disclosure: it probably makes no sense.

Star-divide

Inner Me: Did last night really happen or was that the collective result of 10 weeks of frantic playoff hockey drinking hitting me at once?
The idea I have to wrap my head around a riot is absurd. I can't justify what these idiots did and I'm an American...I know damaged chromosomes with anger streaks when I see them. This picture will unfortunately be seared into my recollection of the 2011 Cup run and I don't have the words to articulate the frustration. What the hell would have happened if they won? I don't want to get into the psyche behind who riots and why since frankly I wouldn't know where to begin. But to happen twice under similar circumstances is beyond troubling. 100,000 people gatherings in the downtown Vancouver area should be off the table for, um, forever?

Inner Me: OK so that actually did happen. There was a game last night too, right?
There's nothing to like about being shut out on home ice in a game seven. Some see it as three fluke goals, I saw it as an extension of game six where after Boston survived some early scares they dictated play. For most of the series, but definitely last night, Vancouver was smothered in their zone and were getting no high percentage chances. From the second period on it was a tough game to stomach. Both Sedin's finished with -4 but at least they owned up afterward. I guess that's a good thing. Kesler showed more jump than he had all series. But that Hansen penalty at the end? I've never laughed in more exasperated, defeated way before in my life. My ass is going to look big in this NHL team today.

Inner Me: Would you have used Hodgson last night?
Considering Seguin played over ten minutes I guess it's worth asking, moreso with Raymond out. Not that Tambellini or Hodgson would be enough to change the course of the game, especially considering Hodgson has been so sheltered in his own zone this season. Overall I don't get too much of the outcry but I do think the team needs to figure out where he fits in because the fourth line isn't it. Personally I'd love to see him on Manny's line and learn from one of the best centers we have, but that'll take some camp adjustments to get Hodgson comfortable on the wing.

Inner Me: So how about that Dan Hamhuis?
Easily the knife in the stomach of the finals was losing Hammer. He and Bieksa were so formidable in those three rounds that they could have helped stem the tide at times, but without him it allowed Boston to key in more on Bieksa physically which in turn forced additional mistakes. Lost a huge PK presence as well. His loss can't be understated and thank god he'll be around next season with all the pending defensive changes.

Inner Me: How important is Bieksa now?
He's not perfect, but they don't grow his kind on trees and our farm has no one like him. Hamhuis and Bieksa should be our number one pairing going into 2012. Pay the man. Before July 1st. Please. I'm super cereal about this.

Inner Me: Al Gore!
Super cereal!

Inner Me: And Ehrhoff?
He's the other end of the spectrum. Let Detroit or someone else throw their money at him. Earlier this season I would have pulled for him to stay, but his one-dimensional style was exposed time and time again this spring. Every time there was a goal with a man left wide open in front of Luongo, it was #5 hauling ass to try and get back to him. We'll miss the offense, but I'd rather let Sweatt or someone else in camp step up and fill the void. Let another team take the Ehrhoff gamble.

Inner Me: And Sami Salo?
It's amazing that with his injury streak, Salo somehow made it through ten weeks of playoff hockey without so much as a hangnail. He blocked a Shea Weber shot for god sakes, I swear I thought parts of him would land on my roof after that. But I don't see him returning unless he takes a deep discount and even then I'm not sure we want a 37 year old, injury prone guy back there unless he's sheltered on the third pairing. He says he'll play one more season, but I have no idea what the priority should be.

Inner Me: That Keith Ballard experiment sure went tits up.
If Michael Grabner walks away next week with the rookie of the year honors, the Ballard deal will be a huge kick in the face (though getting anything for Steve Bernier is still a win). I'm a Ballard fan, never quite understood why Vigneault hated on him like he did. He makes mistakes and his shot selection had to be the worst of the entire defense, but on the same hand, he's generally responsible in the breakouts, is a shot blocking demon and more than capable in a game where Alberts is getting more than 12 minutes. If he's truly done with the team it'll take a sweetheart deal for another GM to take that cap hit off our hands.

Inner Me: Does that mean you don't want to see Alberts back?
Not at $1.3 million for a reserve option. If he takes a cut and wants to come to came and earn it, by all means.

Inner Me: Is there really a goalie problem this time around? Can't blame the "C" anymore.
Yes and no. Yes because Luongo will be defined, right or wrong, by game seven. He slayed some demons in outlasting Chicago and out-dueling Rinne, but for the next year all people will remember is what Joel Ward did, what Marchand did and how often he got pulled in the final round. Then there's the obvious cap hit, which is magnified greatly when you consider Schneider showed he's more than capable of carrying a larger regular season load. At the same time Luongo had an excellent regular season, picked up shutouts in three of the four rounds and 11 of his 15 wins this post season were by one goal; Luongo made a lot work with little to zero offensive support. Gillis has staked too much on Luongo to walk away from his guy (and his deal!) now. Unless a sweetheart offer for Schneider is emailed over (or Eddie Lack grows a third arm) I wouldn't break up this tandem before the start of next season.

Inner Me: Hey remember Mikael Samuelsson?
No.

Inner Me: What's the biggest thing the Canucks do now?
Besides getting Bieksa signed I would make Hansen the next priority; Malhotra and Hansen are too valuable a tandem to walk away from, not to mention Hansen can step up alongside Kesler or the twins as he sparingly in the regular season. Besides that I'd look at the second line where we either put Samuelsson back with Kesler or drop Sammy back and look for a better, more pure scoring option. Imagine Kesler with Parise?

Inner Me: Yeah but there's no chance you'll get Parise.
I know that asshole, I'm just thinking outloud.

Inner Me: You realize you're calling yourself an asshole when you do that?
I hate you.

Inner Me: So that means you're giving up on Higgins? I thought you were a fan.
I am, I'd be pretty content if he stayed but I'd look to him as a third line solution, more so than a pure scoring option. He can also sub in for Raymond if his comeback gets stalled. But, as he did with the Flames last year, I'm willing to bet he wants to head back East. He's certainly worth chasing at a respectable cap hit.

Inner Me: What about the rest of them: Lapierre, Glass, Rypien and Tambellini?
Lapierre is too much of a Vigneault-type guy and as an RFA is a safe bet to return. Flip a coin for Glass or Tambellini, let them fight it out in camp. I'd quietly close the book on Rypien and enjoy the YouTube highlights he's provided over the years.

Inner Me: You mean the Hal Gill one?
Definitely the Hal Gill one.

Inner Me: After that Cup run, you'll never get your wish to see Vigneault steel-toed out into oncoming traffic.
No I won't. Maybe he'll wander into traffic on his own.

Inner Me: We cool with GMMG?
I asked the same thing at the end of last season and was more concerned then. The man did his job with Hamhuis and Malhotra and seeing Tanev contribute out of no where was a pleasure. His deadline deals were huge for a change. You can't argue with the regular season results. I'm happy he's there.

Inner Me: So now what?
I'm going to shave this shit off my face. I thought mine looked terrible until I saw Bergeron's last night. How does that man eat with that upper lip monster hanging out there?

Inner Me: Mom will be psyched. She hated that look on you.
Good point, I'll keep it then.

Inner Me: But seriously what do you do now?
I should do some laundry, it's getting pretty dicey in there every morning...

Inner Me: No I mean with the hockey stuff.
Oh, well I think the draft is soon. Wait, it's mid-June? WHERE THE FUCK DID MAY GO?

Inner Me: You may need a break.
Or maybe I should blog for a sport that can't toy so easily with my emotions. Like the WWE or something. Fake stuff shouldn't bug me.

Inner Me: Remember when you were a kid when Andre the Giant beat Hulk Hogan for the belt using an evil twin referee paid off by Bobby Heenan and you cried?
Fuck.

Walks onto BART train, sits down in a gross, possibly wet seat and ponders breakfast options before realizing there really are none.

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Great post

cheered me up after the fucking travesty that the entire night was last night.

"Sometimes grown-ups have low self-esteem and get on guys and say stupid stuff. I think he has to be happy with his career. He did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that" - Captain Henrik Sedin, on Mike Milbury and his comments
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 16, 2011 12:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Nice ramble

I enjoyed it.

And I’m pretty sure Higgins will be gone. There was a quote I saw from him saying “…I’m proud to play with some of the players that are in this …room”

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on Jun 16, 2011 12:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Heh, well that answers that. But he could have been caught up in the moment too.

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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 16, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

From his interviews, he picks his words pretty carefully

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on Jun 16, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then he’ll go down as one of the best rental players in recent years.

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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 16, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

yep

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on Jun 16, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would love for him to stay

But I don’t think it’s happening

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on Jun 16, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I recall that the speculation was that Higgins likes it out east, and we’re about as not-that as you can get. I badly wanted him at the deadline, and I’m grateful that he didn’t make me look silly :D. The Isles really should make a big push for him.

by Passive Voice on Jun 16, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks, Yankee.

Some much needed levity on an otherwise dismal day.

As for your personnel thoughts, I’m pretty much on board with you top to bottom.
Hamhuis was a crushing blow. Need him and Bieksa back.
Ehrhoff can take a flying fuck.
Will never understand the Ballard /AV thing, love some of the Dmen in our system, though.

I’ll stop here, because like I said, I’m picking up what you’re laying down.

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by kesrows on Jun 16, 2011 12:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Awesome post yankee

Last nights clusterfuck is absolutely knackering me today, nice to see something a little lighter.

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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 16, 2011 12:52 PM PDT reply actions  

No joke

That’s the conversation I had this morning, right down to the WWE stuff.

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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 16, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

My inner conversation this morning went like this:

Inner Me: Fuck fuck fuck fuck
Me: Sad Sad Sad Sad
Inner Me: Fuck fuck fuckin fuckers!
Me: Bummed, depressed, embarrassed, outraged
Inner Me: I dunno who is more deserving of my anger: the rioters or the morons who wouldn’t disperse when the police told them to
Me: Fuck fuck fuck fuck

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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 16, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

The WWE stuff was my favorite part.

Great post, in general, though!

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by davisca on Jun 17, 2011 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Loved it

What’s weird about talking to yourself?
Agree with your priorities: Bieksa, Malhotra, Hansen. May have some quibbles down the line. Eg. Would love to see Schneider stay but I don’t see it happening. Too valuable as trade bait.

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by Tink for Nucks on Jun 16, 2011 12:55 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Thanks for making me laugh Yankee. I needed that. Now I’m off to clean the streets!

by sunshine and lollipops on Jun 16, 2011 12:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Great writing

on such a shitty day.

Or is it shitty? Suppose we won. Wouldn’t we talk about the same things then….about the future? We would. Just add some more smuggness, gloating, minor stuff.
Otherwise, not much different.
It’s all about the journey, guys.
(Fuck, I know how much it sucks, but I am trying to shake it off)

I want Lapierre back – really badly. He is a true playoff performer.
I want Bieksa back.

I am torn about Ehroff. I liked him so much until now, and just turn my back on him? Because he played with a really bad shoulder?

I want the goalie tandem back.
And I want Salo back.

My rant makes no sense. If I want everybody back, we will end up with the exact same team. But I love this team, if only they can stay healthy(er) next time.
Actually, that’s what Aquallini said today: He loves this team, and he will try to make sure that everybody is back. At least one more year.

Los Angeles, CA

by AttilaS on Jun 16, 2011 1:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Ha! Of course. Those convos are the best!

Your inner self likes hockey as much as the outer one.

Of the top of my head, here’s what I think…

Yeah, Juicy Hammer is a great pairing. Pay Juice. Hammer getting hurt was fantastic in its negative affect. The media were too focussed on eviscerating Luongo instead. But it could be argued the ball started rolling down instead of up the hill when he went to hip check Lucic. Curse Looch for being so big!

Sami Salo can be part of my third pairing anytime. I have no prob’ with him returning, B/C it will be for less. He would be big in the inspiration category, and the blue line has some youth that could play the spot if/when the guy goes down.

Hoff? I am of two minds. But mostly agree. Let him play in Detroit or somewhere, and replace him with a guy that has some offense and an overall game, like …Ballard! I don’t know what to make of the AV/Hips thing, except to maybe say we have not the whole story.

I do think more than probably others that he will be back. Dude was a top pairing defenseman in the league. The bad can be coached out, and I think it was more of a left/right numbers thing, and what he needed in a 5-6 guy ( where he put the guy he might not know as well, with all his depth ) was more an Aaron Rome, simple game than the Ballard swashbuckle rush and shot. I love his overall skill set, and just don’t think he will be tossed aside. We can all call him a “reclamation” project when he bounces back next year!

I am not going to get all over Luongo in the offseason as much as others will, I am sure. I guess that will make me a “defender” again. I am fine with that. The guy got us to this point. Win and lose as a team, and I trust his work ethic and desire to be better to find a solution to whatever it is ( that the media and fans will call it, anyhow…) that is the “problem”. We have more than enough summer to think about that! I will say, I think Luongo getting the micro-critique this summer will be a bit maddening for a fan of his. I don’t know why the goalie gets more “stick” than everyone else.

But that is the way it is in hockey.

Thanks for the post Yank’. I am sure we will have lots of time to get the questions answered in our minds, and in how GMMG works it out.

It will be fun! Here’s hoping the fucking Mayans were not right, because I think 2012 is OURS damnit!

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by vancitydan on Jun 16, 2011 1:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Has anyone thought about

the fact that this team had at least 6 new players this year? Doesn’t a team need AT LEAST one season, before they truly learn to play together. So what’s wrong having the same team one more year, before you blow up the barn?

Los Angeles, CA

by AttilaS on Jun 16, 2011 1:10 PM PDT reply actions  

I don’t think losing Ehrhoff and Salo constitutes blowing up the team. To retain them would eat up too much of the remaining cap and we have players that can replace them (before we make the RFA Weber offer…just kidding). Honestly I think the backend will be fine, it’s up front that needs some adjusting. Vancouver lost to Boston for a of couple reasons, but 8 goals in 7 games on the biggest stage of them all is pretty damning the morning after.

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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 16, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

PARISE

Wait, what, I’m not dreaming anymore?

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on Jun 16, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Honestly I think the backend will be fine, it’s up front that needs some adjusting

Yeah, I tend to agree. We need to make cap room for some additions, up front.

Los Angeles, CA

by AttilaS on Jun 16, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

we make the RFA Weber offer

I get goosebumps, just thinking about it.

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by AttilaS on Jun 16, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

from what i hear

his new deal with Nashville is close to being done, and supposed to be done by draft time, apparently he and Nashville’s front office are talking quite agreeably

Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.

by Detroit Must Die on Jun 16, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

It’s all a huge pipe dream, but we have joking about it. Especially since Nashville fans get upset whenever you mention the possibility of it

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on Jun 16, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

If its close

Just replace the Weber name with Suter, rinse, and repeat.

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by vancitydan on Jun 16, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Suter is a UFA in 2013 right? I could look but I’m lazy.

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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 16, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think so

also lazy, but pretty sure this is his last year under his low $$$ deal.

It is intriguing though, because how do they pay both, AND Rinne, AND something for a guy like Ward, etc…when they can’t or won’t spend to the cap.

Fine with me. Suter would look almost better on our blue line than Weber!

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by vancitydan on Jun 16, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would be equally surprised to Suter leave.

Whatever they say about not spending to the cap in Nashville, Suter, Weber, and Rinne are the franchise.

Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.

by Detroit Must Die on Jun 16, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

If they keep the positive momentum from last year’s playoffs going they might even start spending more money…

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on Jun 16, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I don’t see Suter moving either.

An aside: I would have killed to have had Willie Mitchell against Boston. And Pavel Bure with a good knee.

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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 16, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is equally effective

In annoying Pred fans. LOL

And don’t be so quick to dismiss. Yes, they will really try to, and really want him.

But the numbers of Weber’s deal are going to impact on Suter’s, and Rinne will be due a big raise.

They BETTER build on the success and spend more money. Otherwise, dismissing Suter leaving will turn out to be wrong.

David Poile has a pretty interesting summer…

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by vancitydan on Jun 16, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Personally, I think Poile is going to do everything he can to keep Weber, Suter, and Rinne… he’ll get rid of whomever, as long as he can keep those three. They’re the face of this franchise now. But yeah, I’m fascinated (and a little frightened) to see what happens with Nashville’s roster this summer…

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by davisca on Jun 17, 2011 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

As you know Semi......

……we could use some goal scoring prowess in Nashville.

But I don’t think you’re gonna get Batman or Robin. Or, as Bieksa calls him, the Riddler (Rinne).

The scuttlebut is that Weber is gonna sign before July 1st. I expect somewhat of a hometown discount. At $6.5M for 5-7 years. But one thing he’s always maintained is that he wants to see a commitment that the franchise wants to win. To me, that means signing Suter, who is a UFA after next year, which I think will happen. Those two work great together and make each other better. I can’t imagine separating them. And I think that they don’t want to be separated. That’s what they’ve said, so you gotta take it at face value.

And Rinne is Rinne so you gotta resign him. I figure that to resign all three of them, it’ll cost $6-7M more than what they’re getting now. That’d put Weber at $6.5-7M, Suter at $5.5M and Rinne at $5M per year. They all could make more in UFA so we’ll see what they really want to do…………

Despite popular belief, GMDP has made some boneheaded signings over the years that’ve strapped us for cash. This year Sullivan ($3.75M) goes off the books as does Dumont (rumor, $4M). So we’re gonna have the money to resign the triplets. Hopefully we’ll add some scoring too, which is another one of Weber’s “suggestions.”

Too bad for the loss Semi (not so much for Dan and Twitchy :). Great series though that was full of ups and downs and tons of suspense. Better luck next year, unless you play the Preds.

The truth is always the right answer....

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Jun 16, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha, yeah, well… we love Weber.

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by davisca on Jun 17, 2011 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I was totally kidding.

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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 16, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Nashville was willing to pay him almost anything he wanted to get him to stay.

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by davisca on Jun 17, 2011 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think paying multiple 1st round picks and 7+ million in cap space to steal Weber would be an awful move.

by Passive Voice on Jun 16, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

amen

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by Sean Zandberg on Jun 16, 2011 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can't we just

Do it the old fashioned way by driving up in an unmarked van and jumping out with balaclavas on?

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on Jun 16, 2011 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lets fucking do this

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 16, 2011 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eric Brewer too?

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by mfarough on Jun 16, 2011 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

ugh

brewer

"Sometimes grown-ups have low self-esteem and get on guys and say stupid stuff. I think he has to be happy with his career. He did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that" - Captain Henrik Sedin, on Mike Milbury and his comments
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 16, 2011 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great article

I laughed and then I continued crying….

by Thomas Alexander on Jun 16, 2011 1:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Although the cap is not exactly an issue, the sheer number of UFAs you guys have suggests to me that the team, as is, is going to experience some fairly significant changes

With as skinny as the free agent market is going to be, anyone of use who reaches July 1 without a contract will have their price go significantly up. This means that any guy looking to get paid (read: EVERY guy) knows that if he stalls until July 1 he’ll get his money.

I don’t think Ballard moves. I would be surprised to see Gillis (or really any GM for that matter) give himself the vote of no confidence by moving a guy the year after you gave him a 4.2 million dollar per year payday. I know that StanBow wouldn’t do it (damn ulcer).

I think the Canucks retain only one of their UFA defensemen (most likely Bieksa), and his contract won’t come cheap with Detroit looking to replace Rafalski, Salei (and probably, ultimately, Lidstrom too). The SCUM fan pariah side of my family from Michigan tells me that Salo and Bieksa both figure in as likely targets for Ken Holland. So, if the Canucks try to get Bieksa signed cheap before July 1, he will know that if Gillis doesn’t offer a figure that is too his liking Ken Holland just lost a contract with a 6 million dollar cap hit to it, and will likely lose another.

One way or another, 2011-2012 is definitely Schneider’s last where he is.

A player as useful as Higgins will quickly find himself out of Vancouver’s price range with teams like Florida that need, well anything, and have to spend 30 mil to reach the cap floor.

Is this a team blow-up on the scale of what we had to put up with last season? No, not even in the same neighborhood, but teams that go as far as Vancouver did with as many open contracts as Vancouver generally see some substantial turn over.

Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.

by Detroit Must Die on Jun 16, 2011 1:23 PM PDT reply actions  

If they lose Bieksa, there’s a problem. MG has to see that and the fact Bieksa has played his whole career in the Vancouver system and is tight with Burrows, Kesler and the others is key. Plus earlier this year when everyone thought he would be traded MG assured him he was going no where. I feel comfortable they get it done.

I wonder if Higgins would go back to Florida after his half season there. Maybe he’ll end up in Boston as part of the Recchi void.

I can see Salo in Detroit. Not a bad place for him to go and they play a style that doesn’t put him in direct danger of exploding.

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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 16, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not saying they lose Bieksa. I’m saying that Ken Holland likely drives Bieksa’s price up (regardless of the franchise stuff and how tight the locker room is, this is these guy’s livelihood and everyone has their price) and as a result they lose someone else to keep him.

I also have this funny feeling Salo ends up in Detroit, he seems like a natural replacement for Ruslan Salei.

Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.

by Detroit Must Die on Jun 16, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, if true, that Ken Holland is a jerk.

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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 16, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

tampering

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on Jun 16, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well how else would you describe Ken Holland's free agency record other than:

taking or trying to take players away from Western Conference opponents?

Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.

by Detroit Must Die on Jun 16, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

can i just say your user name is all kinds lol-tastic.

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by Canuck_gal on Jun 16, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm from a chicago family that has extended family in Michigan

Let’s just say, that, for me, Hawks-SCUM hatred is downright personal.

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by Detroit Must Die on Jun 16, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

To be honest I haven’t watched many of Detroit’s moves the past few years. You could say the same with the Sharks at least last summer right?

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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 16, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

without a doubt

but you can’t really blame a good GM for making an aggressive, if underhanded move, to simultaneously improve his team’s fortunes while undermining the others. Either you get the piece, or force the other team to overpay. I know most Hawks fans still have chapped asses over the Hjalmarsson offer sheet that probably forced Ladd out of town.

The facts are, Ken Holland has to replace a top defensive pairing and he has something in the neighborhood of 14 million dollars of cap space to do it. Defense is going to get expensive this offseason.

Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.

by Detroit Must Die on Jun 16, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

No I wouldn’t blame a GM for doing that either, especially if you take a key cog out of one of your competitors.

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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 16, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

and the 14 million is just what the Lidstrom and Rafalski contracts free up

Forget that Detroit also has cap space coming open from the pending retirements of Draper and Osgood.

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by Detroit Must Die on Jun 16, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Salo

to the Capitals, may be? Washington seems to be too soft on the back end, I am sure they are desperate to improve.

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by AttilaS on Jun 16, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't see Salo in Detroit

I think the Wings have enough old dudes, they will be looking for younger players

“one Erhoff for sale, one Erhoff for sale…”

by canuckgirl on Jun 16, 2011 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

if you haven't noticed

Detroit likes the old guys

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by Detroit Must Die on Jun 16, 2011 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah they do but I think they prefer them “home grown” if you know what I mean. And they already have quite a few of those so not necessarily looking for more of them.

by canuckgirl on Jun 16, 2011 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

When Sami is in

He is a consistent, solid defenseman with one of the best shots in the league. If we can’t afford him, and think the injuries and such are better replaced with going another way…or if he does not sign for our HTD

Then I can totally see the Wings going for him. I would hate that, unless they move to the East!

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by vancitydan on Jun 16, 2011 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha, this.

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by davisca on Jun 17, 2011 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

We did not give Ballard the pay day

we traded for him already under contract.

And not everyone wants to stall to get the most money. We have several guys signed for less than market value and it wouldn’t be surprising if it happens again this off season.

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by Section 312 on Jun 16, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Certain occurrences that I won't mention have a way of changing that type of attitude

and the Ballard contract is close to immobile regardless.

Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.

by Detroit Must Die on Jun 16, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree that you couldn’t move Ballard’s contract with all the luck in the world. I’m curious if they’ll give him the Bernier and Wellwood treatment: a strict summer training regiment to get him into the condition they want to see and then make a final verdict in camp.

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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 16, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I bet he’s got a year to get it together

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

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by Semi_Colon on Jun 16, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

My thoughts too

He’ll get next year to prove he can effectively eat top four minutes, and then sell him door to door if he doesn’t pull through.

Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.

by Detroit Must Die on Jun 16, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

The question

Is also whether Ballard WANTS to be given another chance here

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

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by Semi_Colon on Jun 16, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was thinking this too. But like everyone says, tough contract to dump on someone else.

Wasn’t exactly showcased by AV. Hope his confidence comes with him to training camp.

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by kesrows on Jun 16, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

you know

more likely now that we lost. Especially because AV has to take some pie on the face for that from Mike Gillis for how Ballard was handled. “I gave up Grabner and a first for this guy, and am paying him over $4MM, and you ‘make a statement’ about ‘its about the work ethic and not the salary,’ in the process utterly destroying the guy’s confidence and making him useless for the playoffs when we would have needed him most to step in for injuries. If he’s not hurt, he’s playing next year” is how the conversation likely will/should go down.

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by Canuckles on Jun 17, 2011 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hope this is true.

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by Tink for Nucks on Jun 17, 2011 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah you have to get that ride onto the showroom floor. Imagine the conversation trying to explain why Alberts and a rookie jumped ahead of him on the chart. Heavy emphasis on “intangibles.”

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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 16, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Keep in mind Ballard's really ability was oversold and contract overvalued

because he received it from a non-competitive franchise that has to spend like a drunken sailor now and again just to reach the cap floor.

I was skeptical of the Ballard deal from the get go. To me, Ballard is a third pairing minutes guy who received a second pairing role (Its Florida for Christ’s Sake), played in front of Tomas Vokoun, and thus received an overvalued contract.

Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.

by Detroit Must Die on Jun 16, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh it’s a terrible deal, I’d like to think even he would admit it. Even on a subpar team, his stats suggested he can play at least second pairing minutes. But even if earns the trust for a third (and assuming Bieksa returns) we’re left with the Ehrhoff void and that’s the ideal. I’m not including Salo for this matter since he didn’t play much of the regular season anyway.

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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 16, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

As much as I like Salo, he has to go. Just far too unreliable in the injury department.

Still amazed he suddenly became some kind of iron man in the playoffs.

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by kesrows on Jun 16, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

(Disclaimer: if this actually happened I'd be pissed) If I were the GM of your team

I’d be closely, very closely, following the negotiations between Winnipeg ownership and Andrew Ladd. If Ladd doesn’t want to follow the team to Winnipeg, then I’d move a hell of lot to land him.

I would let Erhoff and Higgins walk, even move Samuelsson if I had to, to get a veteran guy who can wear a letter, who is level headed, soft-spoken, and has won it all before. If you ask me, what Vancouver needs one or two (maybe three) guys from “Won it All Before” category.

Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.

by Detroit Must Die on Jun 16, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Off my Ladd

I want him back, but I really have a feeling Winnipeg will do everything to try to keep him. The question is does he want to be there?

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by stacie7 on Jun 16, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Ladd wants a winner

but, If I do actually hear the names Andrew Ladd and Canucks in the same sentence this offseason without terms like “not” or ‘never" separating them, then you can bet I’ll be on the first plane to Vancouver with a sniper rifle.

Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.

by Detroit Must Die on Jun 16, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought Ladd was happy with the move? Ladd to Vancouver has been batted around too much for me to think it’s real. I’d love to see him here, but I don’t see it happening.

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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 16, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

and it better stay that way

don’t think Ladd has a problem with Winnipeg, pretty sure he graciously, but not entirely happily, accepted he’d been shipped to a non-competitive team.

Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.

by Detroit Must Die on Jun 16, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let him try it out for a year and then Gillis can chase him when Peg wanders into whatever the fuck our division will be called then

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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 16, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Western Canada + Minnesota"

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on Jun 16, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Poor Minnesota.

Everyone forgets about them.

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by davisca on Jun 17, 2011 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't

I find their little christmas lawn elf outfits FASCINATING!

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by Pseuccubus on Jun 17, 2011 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some good deals on purses out in Surrey!

http://yfrog.com/z/kelr7kcj

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by Pseuccubus on Jun 16, 2011 1:40 PM PDT reply actions  

uh oh

I’m going to get flagged for spam now

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by Pseuccubus on Jun 16, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

how stupid can they be??

seriously!

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by MrsWaachcast on Jun 16, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

start the pile on...

…way to go dirk, cite derek zona as a lone voice of reason about something that happened in vancouver. Cuz, u know, he’s a completely unbiased opinion. I could puke. Awesome.

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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 16, 2011 1:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Zona is, of course, right.

by Passive Voice on Jun 16, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

these parts made me laugh the most
Inner Me: Yeah but there’s no chance you’ll get Parise.
I know that asshole, I’m just thinking outloud.

Inner Me: You realize you’re calling yourself an asshole when you do that?
I hate you.

Inner Me: After that Cup run, you’ll never get your wish to see Vigneault steel-toed out into oncoming traffic.
No I won’t. Maybe he’ll wander into traffic on his own.

Inner Me: So now what?
I’m going to shave this shit off my face. I thought mine looked terrible until I saw Bergeron’s last night. How does that man eat with that upper lip monster hanging out there?

Inner Me: Mom will be psyched. She hated that look on you.
Good point, I’ll keep it then.

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by ahnfire on Jun 16, 2011 1:44 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Definitely a rec for me.

Lord knows I’ve had those conversations before as well.

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by The Fearless Freep on Jun 16, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ditto

Im happy to see that you share my thoughts about AV, and am totally on board with pretty much every one of your thoughts on personnel.

Thanks Yankee

by bygfeete on Jun 16, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Made me laugh

And smile at the same time.

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by PensFanInDenver on Jun 16, 2011 2:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Are you related to Rudy? He talks to himself alot too and never makes any sense. :)

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by Angy on Jun 16, 2011 2:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Good to know I’m not alone.

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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 16, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're never alone

when you talk to yourself.

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by Tink for Nucks on Jun 16, 2011 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone know if B-mac

from the TEAM 1040 is ok? Heard them give well wishes to him and his family on the radio before Pratt & Taylor came on.

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by Canuck_gal on Jun 16, 2011 2:10 PM PDT reply actions  

His dad passed away last night.

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by Alix on Jun 16, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

On a brighter note

I just came back from my lunchtime walk around downtown and the place is looking great – city crews worked through the night to clean up the streets and this morning regular citizens took to the sidewalks armed with brooms to help the clean-up. If it wasn’t for a few boarded windows you would never have known that last night happened. Well done Vancouverites, it’s heartening to see that the actions of a mindless few haven’t dampened the pride most of us feel for our great city.

by British Canuck on Jun 16, 2011 2:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Won’t load for me. What was the quote and context?

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by kesrows on Jun 16, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

"I’ve been telling Cody to stay with it, stay positive and that he would score the Cup winning goal," said Hodgson’s agent Ritch Winter from Philadelphia Thursday where he was shuttling another client Ilya Bryzgalov around Philadelphia and the Flyers practice facility where a meeting with Ed Snider and their coaches was evidently going to take place. "It didn’t work out that way and I’m waiting for things to cool down before we talk. It’s clearly going to be a challenging situation there."

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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 16, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

It could be TG just being TG too...here are more quotes on Vigneault/Hodgson
Further it’s abundantly clear coach Alain Vigneault is not one of his big fans as the youngster always the last possible option and was repeatedly slotted into situations seemingly designed to make him fail. And when the predictable occurred his ice time shrank and shrank before he finally disappeared from view entirely in the final. Had the Canucks won the Cup, his name would not have been included unless the team had made a special petition to have it added.

In his final shifts, Hodgson was clearly far more concerned with not making a mistake than he was with making a play. It was all he could do to safely dump the puck into the offensive zone and scurry to the bench keeping his shifts under 30 seconds whenever possible. Contrast this with how the Sedins broke into the league in their first year in 2000-01 when they played 82 games and never missed a power play.

It isn’t known whether there is anything personal between the coach and the player, but one suspects not yet. But it’s clear Vigneault had no confidence in Hodgson this year and it’s not really clear how that’s going to change in the near future if the Canucks keep the coach on. Further, who knows if any of Vancouver’s pending free agents have any problem with the coach which may impact their desire to stay in Vancouver. It’s clear he’s not the most popular coach in Vancouver history with his players although it’s not likely it’s yet reached the point where it was in Montreal. In his final days with the Habs, the players called Vigneault ’Mr. Gant ’ among themselves, short for Mr. Arrogant.

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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 16, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Definitely less veiled comments than in the past. Don’t like the sound of it either.

Unless he (Winter) is trying to find a way to pressure the team to move him immediately up the roster, this is not good news.

Everything is also fresh, so maybe the summer will be a good cooling off period for everyone. Myself included. :)

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by kesrows on Jun 16, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

FFS

Here we go. Rich Winters seems to be one that like the media in his business, but I ahve my doubts on him being tossed aside by AV.

Tony and his AV hating ways aside, he was nothing but complimentary to the kid when he was in. Certainly not the first, or only coach to not go with a rookie in huge games.

Guys are going to talk up their players. The “clearly going to be challenging” does not fill one with confidence, but really, Tony is at his passive aggressive best in THAT article.

Caution folks. Like everything else with CoHo, the reality and the speculation rarely mesh.

And if he does want to go, well, no offense kid, but whatever. He will bring something good in return, and he is one rookie, you know?

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by vancitydan on Jun 16, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right, like I said, that could be the author doing that thing we love so often.

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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 16, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

a rookie isn't the coach's first choice

in the stanley cup final?

Go figure.

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by Canuckles on Jun 17, 2011 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Unless it’s Chris Tanev and the other choice is Keith Ballard of course.

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by Tink for Nucks on Jun 17, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ballard plays the left side, we got a bunch of those. He does not want, or is just not that good….on the right.

Tanev plays the right all the time.

Besides, his calm, and mostly simple mistake free game, is more what Rome did/does.

I really don’t see it as an either/or. Rather, a strategic replacement, and coaches do those all the time.

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by vancitydan on Jun 17, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hope that Ballard can take the summer to get used to our system and that he and Tanev will make a great duo next year. Remember how god awful Alberts was when he got here? Sometimes the adjustment from the East just takes a while. It’s a different game here, and with Ballard coming from Florida he had 2 things that were going against him:

1) playing in the East – slower game
2) playing for Florida – no winning mentality, no competitiveness in their game

*I am ignoring the obvious Higgins detail, forwards can be different

by sunshine and lollipops on Jun 17, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

don't forget

also he came injured & couldn’t get healthy and these likely affected his conditioning too.

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by Canuckles on Jun 17, 2011 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yikes

TG likes to exaggerate but yikes. AV needs to go. But of course I say that every year. Great post Yankee. You’re on the short list of people that cheered me up today.

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by Alix on Jun 16, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

hey you say it every year too? hooray!

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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 16, 2011 3:27 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I do!

But he’s like a zombie. We’re never getting rid of him.

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by Alix on Jun 16, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I did after last year

and would have if we had lost to the Hawks. And maybe he will lose the room next year I don’t know. But I think now you give him one more year to get it done. Unless the GM knows something we don’t.

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by Section 312 on Jun 16, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know

I’m torn on AV. He just doesn’t seem to be able to adapt to tight checking defensive teams, which is the Canucks kryptonite

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by Semi_Colon on Jun 16, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

we should have been able to destroy them

with all the talent we have. The problem is, AV loves tight checking too and is totally averse to deploying our offence, so games just turn into checking games.

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by Canuckles on Jun 17, 2011 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

really?
and is totally averse to deploying our offence, so games just turn into checking games.

you really think that? We were the highest scoring team in the league…with the fewest goals against. AV has no problem doing both. At the end of the day it comes down to one thing: our scorers couldn’t score.

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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 17, 2011 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Highest scoring team yes, but not against tight checking/defensive teams

Both the Nashville and Boston series we faced a very tight checking/defensive team with a great goaltender and a defensive system they stuck to. And both times we struggled mightily to score goals.

I don’t think that’s just a coincidence. Look at how we got played by Boston/Nashville/Montreal in the regular season too – we couldn’t score many goals against them, or get any kind of forecheck going a lot of times.

And their systems aren’t some sort of miracle system that works against everyone – the Ducks put up a ton of goals on Nashville in the first round and Tampa put up a ton of goals on the Bruins in the ECF. And both those teams weren’t as high scoring as us.

Sure, the scorers couldn’t score, but is that them fading away in two different series, or is it because they are getting stymied by a certain style of defense?

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by Semi_Colon on Jun 17, 2011 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

and

why couldn’t they score? Because AV tried to match checking with checking, and capitalize on mistakes with quick breakouts, which is what most tight checking teams do.

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by Canuckles on Jun 17, 2011 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

No

I don’t agree. I think we got done in by injuries. But the team learned huge lessons I think about the playoffs what a grind it is etc. I agree with Semi though about the tight checking teams. Our only answer to that was Kes and when he got broken we had no other answer

by canuckgirl on Jun 17, 2011 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Everyone has injuries, Boston has their fair share too. The players didn’t use it as an excuse, and we shouldn’t either. Boston won, and that is really all it boils down to in the end. History doesn’t remember second place, but we can remember this magic ride.

by sunshine and lollipops on Jun 17, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Except

When they don’t. I can look up the specific story if you like, but I read yesterday somewhere how “Boston got through the playoffs relatively injury free”.

Sometimes the best team is the healthiest one at the end of the marathon.

Not using injuries as an excuse, but the Canucks were far more affected by their owies than the Bruins

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by vancitydan on Jun 17, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I haven’t heard too much about the Boston injuries, but Horton was out, Savard has been out for months and he’s their best playmaker. I wouldn’t discount those players. Our players may have been playing hurt in the finals, but we weren’t doing too bad after San Jose, then we let Boston pummel us when we should have been the more aggressive team.

Personally, I feel like it cheapens Boston’s win by saying “but the canucks had so many injuries”. I wouldn’t want anyone taking away something from our win, and I’m not going to take away from Bostons’. They won, bottom line.

Not everyone feels that way, but that’s my opinion.

by sunshine and lollipops on Jun 17, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cheapen?

Heck no. I said in the first thing I wrote that I thought they were that “little bit better” all over the ice. Because they were.

You are right about the most aggressive team though. The one that was won every game.

But pointing to Savvy is something like us pointing to Salo, you know? He had already missed a lot of time over the last few, and he got replaced in the system by different guys than him all over the ice. We talk of the good moves GMMG made? Well, Peter C made some pretty sweet ones with Kelly, and Horton, and others.

I was in no way trying to cheapen their win. But it is not that way to mention injuries at the end of a Stanley Cup Finals. When I was younger, a few of us would kick in 20 bucks and call the number of undisclosed injuries.

But of course injuries are not an excuse. KesLORD said so in his Final Sermon of 2010/11. Thus it is, and is so…

;-)

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by vancitydan on Jun 17, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t mean that I thought you were cheapening their win. I meant if I look at injuries, I feel like I’m doing it. That’s why I said everyone has their own opinion on this.

I am really curious to see an injury list though. I’ve only heard of a couple of them so far. What these guys do to their bodies to play this game is unbelievable.

I admire this team to no end.

by sunshine and lollipops on Jun 17, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

There's a Province article on one of these threads

Edler-two broken fingers
Kesler-groin AND hip muscle
Higgins-foot never heeled and probably broken from a Weber shot in Rd 2. (did he miss a game from then on?)
Ehrhoff-getting his shoulder shot up so he could play ever since the McGinn hit.

There’s another one or two as well. Hank never said anything I think, and kesler still stares daggers at anyone that asks how his injuries affected him.

But yeah. Just Edler’s. I’d be home trying to heel, and probably quite taken aback by two broken fingers.

He just taped em up and played on…

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by vancitydan on Jun 17, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

aside from what I have heard previously about higgins, kesler, erhoff etc

GMMG stated today that Bieksa had a bruised MCL (didn’t say when it occured I don’t think) and Hank had a back injury since rnd 2

by BW79 on Jun 17, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ahh, thanks guys. I knew about the Province article, but I was wondering about some of the other guys that seemed to be labouring. It was tough to watch Kes sometimes because you knew how badly he wanted it, but his body just wouldn’t let him do what he wanted.

by sunshine and lollipops on Jun 17, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

The interview

on CDC today, I think there was 10 or so…

Yikes! They all sounded serious enough that they would have been off in the regular season. The one on Juice was the stick from Peverly ( one that I will be pissed about not being called until I die )

Had to be. That is right where the mcl is that got bruised.

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by vancitydan on Jun 17, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know Section

we failed against a less talented team in the SCF. True, there were some injuries to key guys, but that excuse only holds water so much.

Consider that the team was completely unable to make adjustments to their game against Boston when it was clear it wasn’t working from game 1 (i.e. how to score) including line adjustments, that AV made critical in-game coaching errors (pulling Lu in game 3 maybe? timeouts… at all?), Julien was able to really rally his players into playing together, while ours seemed disconnected from the game and each other at times, and that he systematically destroyed Keith Ballard’s confidence to the point that he was dropped below Alberts and Tanev on the depth chart, and you have to wonder about his abilities. I’m not saying he shouldn’t be lauded for good work, and that some of this isn’t on the players, but c’mon… the coach is ultimately responsible for not getting the most out of his team and lets be honest, this is one fucking good hockey team.

AV is a great preparation coach. He devises good strategies and game plans. But I’m not sold on his ability to manage games as they unfold and change his tactics mid game or even mid-series.

Not sure whether or not we keep AV, but I’m not loving him right now.

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by Canuckles on Jun 17, 2011 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Seems to me that

Watching the other guys hoist the Stanley Cup in your barn in Game 7 has to be a pretty good learning experience.

Has anybody crunched the numbers on teams coming back from SCF losses to win the next year? Pittsburgh I know, but anybody else?

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by Tink for Nucks on Jun 17, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Off the top of my head

I wouldn’t say the next year, but to my mind:

NJD: 1994 lost in ECF to NYR, 1995 SC Champions
Col/Que: 1995 lost in EC semi-finals, 1996 SC Champions
Det: 1995 lost in SCF to NJD, 1997/1998 SC Champions
Dal: post-1995 in WC to Col/Det, 1999 SC Champions
Car: 2002 lost SCF to Det, 2006 SC Champions
Ana: 2003 lost SCF to NJD, 2007 SC Champions
Pit: 2008 lost SCF to Det, 2009 SC Champions
Chi: 2009 lost WCF to Det, 2010 SC Champions

So I won’t say the chances of coming back next year is certain. But if the core to win is there, young enough, they will be back in SCF.

by nucklinBadger on Jun 17, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Know Hope

(jeez, the first time I typed that I did the homonym “No Hope”. Yikes.)

But really, there is a lot of room for hope the Canucks’ chances going forward.

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by Tink for Nucks on Jun 17, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

The same can be said

for San Jose and Tampa.

I’d say we have a good chance of getting back if, and its a big if, AV develops a bit more as a coach, Gillis can get a second line scorer to take the heat of the Sedins and help Kesler and we avoid so many injuries.

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by Canuckles on Jun 17, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was good run

That sucks that you guys lost and all. BUT YOU WENT TO GAME 7 OF THE STANLEY FUCKIN’ CUP!!! That may not be technically a “successful season”, but its something to be damn proud of. I hope you guys sign Ehrhoff instead of Bieksa so we can get a chance at him. That would be awesome. Anyways, this season and series was nothing to hang your heads about. In the end, the better team won. That was a fun, dramatic series and even though I was pulling for Vancouver, it was still entertaining. Congrats on making it so far.

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by pooponastick on Jun 16, 2011 2:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Canucks fans pretty much have to keep telling ourselves this. It IS a technically successful season, but just doesn’t feel like it when you’re 1 game away from the Stanley Cup.

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by dallascanuck on Jun 16, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

to me an unsuccessful season would be not making the playoffs

Being the President’s Trophy winners and breaking how many NHL and Canuck’s records during the regular season definitely makes it successful. You just didn’t quite make it to the prize at the end.

It doesn't hurt to be optimistic. You can always cry later.

by stacie7 on Jun 16, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know

With an elite roster like that, the expectation is a SC, fair or not that’s what makes a successful team. Personally, I agree with that philosophy

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by pooponastick on Jun 16, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Ehrhoff is all yours, sir. We’ll put A Bieksa jersey on him and ship him out.

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by kesrows on Jun 16, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

it's amazing...

that the free agent period is only 2 weeks away!

waaahhhhhhhhhhhh

by Lingyis on Jun 16, 2011 2:33 PM PDT reply actions  

2 weeks? Whoa.

Work hard, play harder, rest easy.

by jwolf0 on Jun 16, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks Yankee

Great post. I can’t really wrap my head around what happened or where the team will go from here. I guess at some point it will be consolation that 28 other teams ended their seasons worse off than us – Game 7 of the SCF is a hell of an accomplishment. Some initial attempts to think about next year:

- Luongo, for all his faults, was good enough to help the team to Game 7 of the SCF. He deserves one more chance, and quite frankly is a way better option than anyone else we could have. One more year of near-heartattacks though

- Hodgson – Would love to see him get a legit shot next year, either on the 2nd or 3rd line

- Ehrhoff and Salo are goners, I believe. Like ’em both, but we need Bieksa back and they are both too inconsistent

- I think next year is make-or-break for MayRay, which will be tough coming off that injury. Kelser can anchor the best 2nd-line in the league if he has scoring help

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by nucksandpucks on Jun 16, 2011 2:39 PM PDT reply actions  

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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 16, 2011 3:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Damn

I need to pick up my slack

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by Semi_Colon on Jun 16, 2011 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

So here it is my ideal team for next year....this is if I was the GM and every move I wanted to pull off got pulled off

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Alexandre Burrows ($2.000m)
Mason Raymond ($2.550m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Zach Parise ($5.125m)
Andrew Ladd ($2.350m) / Manny Malhotra ($2.500m) / Jannik Hansen ($1.000m)
Raffi Torres ($1.500m) / Maxim Lapierre ($0.900m) / Victor Oreskovich ($0.775m)
Cody Hodgson ($1.666m)

DEFENSEMEN
Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.500m)
Alexander Edler ($3.250m) / Chris Tanev ($0.900m)
Keith Ballard ($4.200m) / Steve Montador ($1.850m)
Aaron Rome ($0.750m)

GOALTENDERS
Cory Schneider ($0.900m) / Eddie Lack ($0.900m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $59,316,666; BONUSES: $1,060,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $83,334

I went with Montador because he is fairly durable, from Vancouver, and I figured he would settle in right around the 2 million dollar mark. Obviously this was is a pipe dream since several of the people that I got rid of aren’t really movable in real life. But that’s why it is called rosterbation.

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by Section 312 on Jun 16, 2011 3:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Also Lappy didn't get a raise

cause I forgot. But I was generous with Torres so they can split the 500,000 dollar raise I gave Rafi.

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by Section 312 on Jun 16, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Devils

got him to replace Marty and sent us Parise back. Picks were involved. Got some of those picks back when I moved Sammuelson.

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by Section 312 on Jun 16, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're hired!

Welcome aboard.

GOODBYE LUONGO!

by Twin Terror on Jun 16, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

did lamoriello have a stroke? :D

by Passive Voice on Jun 16, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope

but in my fantasy world Marty retired and Parise wants out and Kesler convinces him to come demand a trade to Vancouver.

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by Section 312 on Jun 16, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Trade demands like the prima donnas in the footballing world. I love it!

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by Vancouverguy on Jun 17, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

that goalie tandem

will be like LA’s. Talented but inexperienced, and overall will not be able to do the job.

by seedvt on Jun 16, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

In your opinion

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by Section 312 on Jun 16, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

And in my opinion

we have the best young goalie in the world not named Rask. And a guy who has been the best goalie at every level of hockey he has played. And when he gets his chance to be a starter he will seize it. Niemi didn’t have experience and he got it done. Luongo has lots of experience in the playoffs. And he didn’t. What’s my point? You can’t really predict who will perform well enough to go all the way. But you can save money going with CS a guy who has as much promise as any young goalie anywhere.

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by Section 312 on Jun 16, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

you mean

the guy that cost us game 6 in Chicago with his inexperience? Or the guy that almost cost us another goal when he got put in in game 6 against boston by making the same mistake? That guy?

I think schnieds is the shit, but he needs another season in the big show before we hang our collective hat on him. In my opinion.

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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 16, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah well if he was the starter next year

he’d have 60 games experience going into the playoffs. You may have noticed he also stood on his head in those games and the only goals that beat him were easily correctable mistakes or unstoppable shots. Yeah that is a guy I would hang my hat on. Especially at 900 bucks next year.

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by Section 312 on Jun 16, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good

lord I would pee my pants if we got Zach Parise.

It's all hot bishes, naps, and dance parties

by Alix on Jun 16, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

wow parise, Ladd and no luongo? this is how you rosterbate ladies and gentlemen!

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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 16, 2011 3:25 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

And it did actually make me feel slightly better

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by Section 312 on Jun 16, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Better than the 17 dollars worth of McDonalds last night

and the 200 dollar watch I bought today.

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by Section 312 on Jun 16, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

17 dollars?! 200 dollars?!?!

High roller…who you tryin to impress?

by sunshine and lollipops on Jun 16, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is anyone impressed

by someone who eats 17 bucks worth of McDicks?

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by Section 312 on Jun 16, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

other

large people?

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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 16, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

The gal or guy

who owns the McDonalds I ate at?

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by Section 312 on Jun 16, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Homeless people?

Every time I step up in the building, everybody's hands go UP..... AND THEY STAY THERE.
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by davisca on Jun 17, 2011 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

More surprised really. And saddened I guess.

by sunshine and lollipops on Jun 16, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry, this may seem like I’m being rude, I’m not, I just really hate McDonalds.

by sunshine and lollipops on Jun 16, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lots of people do

others, like me, know full well what we are getting and love the way it tastes anyway. Plus iced coffees for a buck? Can’t say no to that.

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by Section 312 on Jun 16, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve heard their iced coffees are really good. Gonna have to take a gander one day.

by sunshine and lollipops on Jun 17, 2011 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I LOVE OFFSEASON

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by Semi_Colon on Jun 16, 2011 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is nice

But complete Fantasy land. All you need is Ricardo Monteblan and a midget…

by canuckgirl on Jun 16, 2011 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I know

it is fantasy land. That’s why I said it was my fantasy.

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by Section 312 on Jun 16, 2011 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Luuuuu

I know we are stuck with him.How do you FIX him???

by canuckgirl on Jun 16, 2011 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think

he needs to be “fixed”. Just maybe needs some tweaks to his mental preparation.

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by Section 312 on Jun 16, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like

the cut of your jib, mister.

That line-up has all kinds of good about it.
I have also rosterbated the idea of freeing up mucho dinero to spend on skaters

by bygfeete on Jun 16, 2011 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

so how

do you do that?

I want Lu back, and I really can’t stomach the blamers, but I’d rather avoid seeing the brainfart games next year.

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by Canuckles on Jun 17, 2011 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have no idea

but someone in that locker room between the coaches must see ways that he can improve his focus and demeanor.

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by Section 312 on Jun 17, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

He needs to find a good sports psychologist who can help him block out the bad stuff. He also needs to find a good PR person who will teach him not to say stupid things and try to be funny because it just gets a negative spin on it anyways.

by sunshine and lollipops on Jun 17, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or since he is near the pinnacle, study history and learn what winners (e.g. Roy, Brodeur, Plante) didn’t do to win the Cup.

Like NEVER start guessing your own technique in the SCF.
Like NEVER giving soundbites to anyone unless you can back it up, even if what you say is true.

by nucklinBadger on Jun 17, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Glad to see

You’re right back on the rosterbation bandwagon Section. Nothing makes the pain go away like a good rosertbation

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

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by Semi_Colon on Jun 16, 2011 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I tried

crysterbaiting last night. But this helps even more.

"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Are you out of your fucking mind? You think I'm just going to rape you on the off chance that hopefully you're into that shit?" - Louis CK
Nucks Misconduct's Prodigal Son, Chief Curmudgeon, and Chief Hunk.

by Section 312 on Jun 16, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

DAT PARISE

I WANT IT

"Sometimes grown-ups have low self-esteem and get on guys and say stupid stuff. I think he has to be happy with his career. He did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that" - Captain Henrik Sedin, on Mike Milbury and his comments
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 16, 2011 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder

How many bad goals Schneider would be allowed to give up before this city turned on him. Realistically, one season?

by Canuckelhead on Jun 16, 2011 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

He'll get

20 games.

"Sometimes grown-ups have low self-esteem and get on guys and say stupid stuff. I think he has to be happy with his career. He did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that" - Captain Henrik Sedin, on Mike Milbury and his comments
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 16, 2011 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Im happy with Luie

because I remember how it was when Clouts tended goal for us and I’ll never go back to that! NEVER! DO YOU HEAR ME?! YOU WON’T TAKE ME ALIVE! I’LL BURN MY CANUCKS JERSEY AND HOLD MY BREATH TILL I PASS OUT!

"Sometimes grown-ups have low self-esteem and get on guys and say stupid stuff. I think he has to be happy with his career. He did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that" - Captain Henrik Sedin, on Mike Milbury and his comments
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 16, 2011 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate

Dan CLOUTIER!!! RWAAAAAAAAAAAAR!!!

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by mfarough on Jun 16, 2011 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is

literally impossible for me to hate him more than I already do.

"Sometimes grown-ups have low self-esteem and get on guys and say stupid stuff. I think he has to be happy with his career. He did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that" - Captain Henrik Sedin, on Mike Milbury and his comments
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 16, 2011 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Prurient interest

But I’ve always wondered where the truth lay in the whole Jeff brown sleeping with Kirk mcleans wide debacle.

Daniel Sedin on Mike Milbury: "He made a bad comment about us, calling us women. I don’t know how he looks at women. I would be pretty mad if I was a woman."

by Tink for Nucks on Jun 16, 2011 10:07 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

True or not

It really says something about the kind of scrutiny a goalie in Vancouver is under when we start looking at a wife’s possible infidelity as a reason our goalies don’t live up to the impossible standards this city has for goaltending. That being said, it seems like that juicy rumor was too loud to not be based in some truth.

by Canuckelhead on Jun 16, 2011 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with this assessment

<3 Boobies!
#WinitWithManny
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by Canuckles on Jun 17, 2011 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder

who cares? I don’t think the city “turning” on Luongo (which is debatable) has anything to do with his performance one way or the other and I don’t think it would affect CS.

"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
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by Section 312 on Jun 16, 2011 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really?

You don’t think there’s a mental aspect to elite level goaltending? You don’t think the constant questioning and second guessing has any affect? Did you not see his face when the guy from PD told him people cheered when he got cheered? Did you miss him slamming his stick on the ice? Have you never seen the man interviewed? He obviously feels he has something to prove. That wasn’t actually my point. My point was, I was wondering how long it will take for you people calling for Roberto to be traded to be calling for CS to be replaced. Good news is Lack is next in line for the goalie firing squad.

by Canuckelhead on Jun 16, 2011 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw the look on his face

I don’t think it affected his play one way or the other. There certainly is a mental aspect to goal tending. More than most realize. But the fans reaction and what the papers are saying don’t affect elite level players.

"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Are you out of your fucking mind? You think I'm just going to rape you on the off chance that hopefully you're into that shit?" - Louis CK
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by Section 312 on Jun 16, 2011 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would disagree

But it’s not just the fans reaction, It’s the constant questioning from the media. It’s the articles that are written, it’s what they hear when they happen to turn on sports radio on the way to practice. There’s a reason some players don’t like to play in Canadian markets and there’s a reason a lot of the players who do end up getting burnt out by it. Why do you think that is if it doesn’t affect them?

by Canuckelhead on Jun 17, 2011 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

It isn't the content of the questions

or the content of the fans opinions that burns them out. It’s the frequency of it all. It is constantly having to deal with media and fans wherever you go. Do you honestly think a goalie who makes 10 million dollars, has a gold medal, and is widely regarded one of the top 3 or 4 goalies in the world gives two shits what Tony Gallagher or Joe Average Hockey Fan thinks about him or his play? 95% of hockey fans and media don’t even truly know enough about goal tending to really assess his play properly anyway.

"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Are you out of your fucking mind? You think I'm just going to rape you on the off chance that hopefully you're into that shit?" - Louis CK
Nucks Misconduct's Prodigal Son, Chief Curmudgeon, and Chief Hunk.

by Section 312 on Jun 17, 2011 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Do you honestly think a goalie who makes 10 million dollars, has a gold medal, and is widely regarded one of the top 3 or 4 goalies in the world gives two shits what Tony Gallagher or Joe Average Hockey Fan thinks about him or his play?

In a word. Yes. I know they do and you have as much or more experience with hockey players as I do so you do too. These guys have elite level egos too. One of the things that drives them to work hard enough to get to that elite level is the need for approval and that doesn’t stop when they go pro. In any case, whether it’ he frequency or the content it gets to them and this town kills goalies especially because so much of the position is mental and this town isn’t going to stop killing goalies when Luongo leaves.

by Canuckelhead on Jun 17, 2011 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know that athletes

pretend to be slighted by criticism sometimes and use it as motivation. But they invent that feeling themselves. Sometimes they even invent the slight. But I know from my personal experience that the two things I have been best at in life are the two things that no one can tell me I am not great at. My confidence in myself has never wavered when it comes to those two things no matter what anyone has ever said to me or about me behind my back. And I have never personally met an athlete that takes the time to really actually care what fans or media think. Some of them, not all, care what their coaches, team mates or family think. But that’s a different story.

As for the goalie graveyard thing? It is partly an invention of the media and partly because we just haven’t had very good goalies most of the time. CS is 7 years younger and makes significantly less next year and for at least 2 or 3 years after that. That’s why i want Luongo gone. Not because of performance. I can’t answer for people who want him gone because of his play on the ice.

"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Are you out of your fucking mind? You think I'm just going to rape you on the off chance that hopefully you're into that shit?" - Louis CK
Nucks Misconduct's Prodigal Son, Chief Curmudgeon, and Chief Hunk.

by Section 312 on Jun 17, 2011 3:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

CS is 7 years younger and makes significantly less next year and for at least 2 or 3 years after that. That’s why i want Luongo gone. Not because of performance. I can’t answer for people who want him gone because of his play on the ice.

If moving Lu frees up $ for someone who can skate through playoff checks, then I’m all for it.

by nucklinBadger on Jun 17, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Out of pure curiosity...

what are the two things you’re great at?

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by davisca on Jun 17, 2011 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Acquiring currency

pleasuring women.

"Sometimes grown-ups have low self-esteem and get on guys and say stupid stuff. I think he has to be happy with his career. He did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that" - Captain Henrik Sedin, on Mike Milbury and his comments
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 17, 2011 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

At the same time?

Daniel Sedin on Mike Milbury: "He made a bad comment about us, calling us women. I don’t know how he looks at women. I would be pretty mad if I was a woman."

by Tink for Nucks on Jun 17, 2011 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is there

any other way?

"Sometimes grown-ups have low self-esteem and get on guys and say stupid stuff. I think he has to be happy with his career. He did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that" - Captain Henrik Sedin, on Mike Milbury and his comments
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 17, 2011 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hahahah, fair enough!

Sounds good.

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by davisca on Jun 18, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Section

You’re welcome.

"Sometimes grown-ups have low self-esteem and get on guys and say stupid stuff. I think he has to be happy with his career. He did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that" - Captain Henrik Sedin, on Mike Milbury and his comments
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 18, 2011 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not a

gigolo no matter what CC might think.

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"Are you out of your fucking mind? You think I'm just going to rape you on the off chance that hopefully you're into that shit?" - Louis CK
Nucks Misconduct's Prodigal Son, Chief Curmudgeon, and Chief Hunk.

by Section 312 on Jun 20, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

it's ok

i already explained to CC that a gigolo is a dude on the other side of that type of transaction.

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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 20, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

and just to be clear

I was more concerned with peoples reactions than how those reactions affect the goalie. I just don’t understand why people want to drive Luongo out of town and was wondering how long it would be before Schneider was getting similar treatment. Because you know it’s inevitable.

by Canuckelhead on Jun 17, 2011 1:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sure the last thing you want to read is something from a rival so I'll be brief

First I know it stings but your team had a very impressive season and the finish does not really diminish that. Second there are a great many of you that I like and find insightful and for what happened for you and your city both on and off the ice you are in my thoughts today. Last while I’m sympathetic for you long suffering fans I actually feel worse for your younger fanbase. For the kids who wore their team gear to school everyday and dreamed of hustling like (the great American) Kesler, finish like a Sedin or even took up goaltending I feel for their disappointment and hope it isn’t their lasting hockey memory. As your team’s rival fan I wasn’t rooting for your team but I wasn’t wishing this difficult finish for you either and wish you better days ahead.

Until next season’s playoffs I wish you well. Enjoy your summer.

by Scott13 on Jun 16, 2011 3:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Kids are easily distracted. They feel really really bad for a short time and then move onto something else. Whereas I while be moving on to a tub of Haagen Daaz tonight. Screw that eating healthy shit I was going back to after the playoffs ended. That can wait for next week.

Thanks for the post though, it was a good season, and a good ride.

by sunshine and lollipops on Jun 16, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Michael Grabner walks away next week with the rookie of the year honors, the Ballard deal will be a huge kick in the face (though getting anything for Steve Bernier is still a win).

At LHH we’re pretty much resigned to Grabner not winning the Calder due to a bunch of the NY/LI/NJ PWHA voters not voting. But I think even if Grabner doesn’t win, you have to look at why he’s a contender for it. He led the Islanders with a +13 this year, a team that had to start it’s 5th string goalie for a few games during the season. The biggest reason why I think he should win the Calder is that he had almost no PP points, in comparison to the other two nominees who spent a lot of time on their respective PP units. He instead was called on to work the PK and led the league in SH goals, with his center Frans Nielsen being #2 in the league.

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by Mark D on Jun 16, 2011 3:31 PM PDT reply actions  

I don’t know, he might still win it. Because your writers were boycotting, it almost gave him some more attention. He should win it though, his stats are great.

by sunshine and lollipops on Jun 16, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

5th string goalie?!

Oh my God…I knew it was bad up there this year (I pulled for you guys from afar as the underdog all year), but holy shit, 5th string?? I feel for you… Nashville went through a huge string of center injurys (after injury, after injury, after…) in the middle of the season. It got so bad that we were making random wingers play center, and started calling up any and everyone we could. Hell, we signed some nobody winger from Milwaukee to a hilariously short two-way contract to play center for us…. yikes. Obviously we made off a little better than the Islanders in the end, but still… those are terrifying moments for any team’s fans. And I think for what they had to work with (again, I didn’t follow closely, but I did pay attention), the Islanders did better than most people expected this year. They certainly surprised everyone in the last few months. Grabner was phenomenal, and I seriously hope he wins the Calder – he certainly deserves it.

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by davisca on Jun 17, 2011 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Islanders goalies

Beginning of the season:

1A Rollie
1B DiPietro
3 Lawson
4 Poulin
5 Koskinen
6 Martin (Who started the season in the ECHL and wasn’t on an Islanders contract)

The Islanders trade Rollie, a week later DP gets Hurt. So it’s Lawson and Poulin, Lawson then gets hurt a few games later and it’s Poulin and Koskinen. Poulin gets hurt in warmups and blows out his knee, so Koskinen starts while Martin gets signed to a 2 way deal and called up to Backup Koskinen. That weekend we claim Nabokov off waivers, he doesn’t show up so we finally trade for Montoya.

So that’s the Isles goalie rotation in a nutshell for last season.

We also had a ton of injuries to our defense. Jurcina never stayed healthy, Eaton and Mottau went down early in the year with season ending injuries. The last 3 games of the season we had College ATOs signed to one off contracts as the 6th defenseman (at the time our AHL defense was thin too due to injuries)

I think the Islanders set a record for man games lost to injury this year.

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by Mark D on Jun 18, 2011 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

By the way

This past 16 or so hours has been very instructive for me about the evils of twitter and it’s redeeming features. Such a vast amount of hate yesterday towards our team. And now being used to quickly spread the news about the real people of Vancouver.

"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Are you out of your fucking mind? You think I'm just going to rape you on the off chance that hopefully you're into that shit?" - Louis CK
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by Section 312 on Jun 16, 2011 3:32 PM PDT reply actions  

I've pretty well

Become immune and tune out all the not well contained gloating that is going on everywhere

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on Jun 16, 2011 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its there

Just a lot better distributed and available to everyone’s fingertips.

There is a lot of hate, but that stuff, and its taken me a while to get there, I am really starting to just accept it as noise and make fun of it. Because there is enough hate to make us feel like Anthony Weiner right about now if you don’t. MSM, fans from the known and surprising sources.

He lost too. I think he still will get the kick ass pension…

I have taken to having a super quick trigger finger when i do go to the TV sports sources. Like the stuff about “Luongo’s Insult” being a story for four days, and turned into a “TSN Turning Point” level of bullshit… They are just so fucking lazy. Hey, here’s an easy story, lets take this out of context. It works with our “Canucks=Villains” narrative as well.

Very eye opening.

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by vancitydan on Jun 16, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

technology is

a double edged sword. Gotta take the good with the bad.

Reminds me of something else… hmmm.

by Puckmummy on Jun 16, 2011 3:47 PM PDT reply actions  

If I may

suggest that in fact technology is completely neutral. It doesn’t care one way or the other. It’s people, and how people use technology, that results in the double-edged sword you mentioned.

Nuclear energy is fantastic. Nuclear weaponry, not so much, unless you’re the guy lobbing it to turn the enemy into a glass crater.

by Geodetic on Jun 16, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hear you...

We are the double edged swords. :)

by Puckmummy on Jun 16, 2011 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was this our best shot?

I guess I’ve heard the common school of thought that says since our core is locked up for the next few years, we just need some minor shuffling via FA & trades and we’ll be right back in the mix.

But as always, a lot of things had to align the right way for us to even make it this far (call it luck, call it clutch performances, call it breaks) and in the end, some things didn’t align the right way and we fell short (injuries, super stars not producing).

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by dallascanuck on Jun 16, 2011 4:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Hard to say

…and I can’t offer any wisdom because I’m not up on the game and teams like so many here, I just love watching great hockey.

I can say that in a sport like hockey, there are so many moving parts, so many interlinked critical factors, that you just never know what the result will be with any degree of acceptable accuracy. And that’s just for one team. Throw in all of the League teams, each with their own moving parts, and the possibilities become truly quantum. The Coyotes making it to the SCF? Extremely improbable, but you can’t say impossible.

by Geodetic on Jun 16, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which brings me to another thought. Maybe GMMG needs to steal the EA simulation software to guide his moves. The sim accurately predicted Bos vs Van early on in the regular season. Then it predicted Bos vs Van again during the playoffs. It was only wrong in two 7-game series between pretty evenly matched teams in Wings vs Sharks and Canucks vs Bruins.

"I think he has to be happy with his career, he did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that." - Henrik Sedin on Mike Millbury
(Dallascanuck, M.D., the real kind, not the Mark Recchi, M.D. kind)

by dallascanuck on Jun 16, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well guess what, the riots are being reported down here after the media not caring about the NHL all season long. Typical media beat up, but it’s certainly not going to do much for Vancouver’s tourism, there was no mention of the thousands of people cleaning up today…

by andrew21nz on Jun 16, 2011 4:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Beat up stories sell more papers.

Journalism used to be about the truth. Then it became about money.

I still love NPR, and some programs on the CBC.

by Geodetic on Jun 16, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, unfortunately many people who don’t know much believe them though…
Judging by the comments on: http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/5154250/Vancouver-fans-riot-after-Stanley-Cup-loss
Funny how that story is about 5 times longer than the tiny one they have about Boston winning the cup. And weirdly the story about the photo with the couple kissing is the most viewed story today…

by andrew21nz on Jun 16, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, the photo with the couple kissing in the middle of a riot is deserving of some attention. To the non-hockey-loving general public, a once-in-a-generation riot in an otherwise well-behaved city with a great international reputation is much more interesting than a once-a-year hoisting of the Stanley Cup.

"I think he has to be happy with his career, he did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that." - Henrik Sedin on Mike Millbury
(Dallascanuck, M.D., the real kind, not the Mark Recchi, M.D. kind)

by dallascanuck on Jun 16, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe I'm crazy

but I am genuinely concerned about that couple. Let’s just say, I really really really hope it was consensual.

Well at least I have 1995, 2000, and 2003. Those were fun.

by dees ees en drama on Jun 16, 2011 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

It looked very, very consensual

Dramatic and romantic, would make a great cover for one of them Harlequin novels.

GOODBYE LUONGO!

by Twin Terror on Jun 16, 2011 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Judging by the comments"

It’s common knowledge that internet comment sections are full of loud mouth idiots.

Well at least I have 1995, 2000, and 2003. Those were fun.

by dees ees en drama on Jun 16, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

See: Any YouTube video. Literally. Any of them.

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by davisca on Jun 17, 2011 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tourism affected?
but there’s been so many Australians in Victoria these last couple weeks!

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I also ramble on Twitter every so often. (now with a new handle!)
"Whether it’s with his mouth or with his stick, Alex Burrows is going to end up pissing you off."
"He did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that." Henrik Sedin on Mike Milbury.

by missy on Jun 16, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I was a NZer trying to decide if I wanted to go to Vancouver or not, not knowing much about it, the coverage of it would have put me off

by andrew21nz on Jun 16, 2011 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

We don't want you anyway

can’t understand what you are saying. ;-)

"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Are you out of your fucking mind? You think I'm just going to rape you on the off chance that hopefully you're into that shit?" - Louis CK
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by Section 312 on Jun 16, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

But you’d be happy with Australians?

by andrew21nz on Jun 16, 2011 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

tbh, i can hardly tell British and Aussie accents apart, so i keep thinking they’re British at first.

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I also ramble on Twitter every so often. (now with a new handle!)
"Whether it’s with his mouth or with his stick, Alex Burrows is going to end up pissing you off."
"He did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that." Henrik Sedin on Mike Milbury.

by missy on Jun 16, 2011 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

WHAT?

They are soooo different

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on Jun 16, 2011 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

dude, i work in a souvenir shop. you’d be surprised.

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I also ramble on Twitter every so often. (now with a new handle!)
"Whether it’s with his mouth or with his stick, Alex Burrows is going to end up pissing you off."
"He did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that." Henrik Sedin on Mike Milbury.

by missy on Jun 16, 2011 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I used to have a British accent and lived in the UK for years when I was a wee lad.

Auzzie is almost night and day

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on Jun 16, 2011 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can also tell a British man be the fact that he is fat and has no shirt on even though it’s not that hot

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by PKSube on Jun 16, 2011 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hilarious

"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
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by Section 312 on Jun 16, 2011 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will attest to that, fair dinkum

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by PKSube on Jun 16, 2011 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking as a Brit ex-pat

who grew up and identifies as Canadian, I can attest to how different the Aussie accents is from the various British accents.

Now Aussie and Kiwi…that can be difficult at times to differentiate. But given enough listening time I can usually get it right. (It also helps to not ask a Kiwi if he’s Australian, or an Aussie if he’s from Enzedd. :-))

by Geodetic on Jun 16, 2011 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

well, what i get to see mostly are Americans, so i can usually tell if the accent is coming from at least a Commonwealth country.

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by missy on Jun 16, 2011 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

we actually own a few of them on Government St, i am generally jumping between Garden City and Souvenir Outlet.

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by missy on Jun 16, 2011 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

(checks to make sure NZ is in the Commonwealth……… yes it is, good)

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by missy on Jun 16, 2011 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol yep after living in London for 2 years I can tell the difference between Brit (and different areas of England and the UK as well), Australian, and South African accents lol. But I too have trouble between Kiwi and Aussie :)

by BW79 on Jun 16, 2011 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn right, being asked if you are Australian is pretty insulting! There’s a big difference, but obviously there would be from my perspective

by andrew21nz on Jun 16, 2011 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Next time your asked if you're an Aussie...

…and it’s a Canadian doing the asking, ask them if they’re American (or vice versa). :-)

by Geodetic on Jun 16, 2011 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Serious question

what is insulting about it? Not everyone is an expert of regional accents and dialects. And I hate to break it to you but just like there are a lot of similarities between us and Americans from the outside looking in there are lots between Aussies and Kiwis from afar.

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by Section 312 on Jun 16, 2011 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah I have always wondered why people are insulted by it. I have been mistaken for an American a million times when I was living overseas. Doesn’t bother me (but I don’t have a raging hate on for the US as some friends that I have do). When I lived in the Philippines everyone thought I was American, I accepted that. Lol when I lived in London my friends and coworkers teased me about it all the time (when we went bowling they put my name as Yankee Doodle, and they nicknamed me Yoosa (USA spelled phonetically) and I just played along :) Doesn’t bother me. Though I did also have a fair number of Brits ask me if I was from Australia – yeah no idea where that came from lol

by BW79 on Jun 16, 2011 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

When I first started living overseas it bothered me

but I got used to it and understood that it’s really hard to tell the difference.

I had a British co-worker in Viet Nam who had a trick when he met someone with a “North American” accent: he would ask what part of Canada they were from. Why? An American won’t be offended and a Canadian will be pleased by such a question.

Unfortunately doesn’t work with NZers and Aussies….

by sonzai on Jun 17, 2011 1:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s just a bit of a joke really, we sort of have a love-hate relationship with Australia, I guess it comes from being a ‘little brother’ to them and them historically beating us in sports (bar rugby). It’s really tongue in cheek, as soon as you see something like the earthquakes here or the floods there we’re more than happy to help the other country…

by andrew21nz on Jun 17, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

By the way ‘Nucks fans, thanks for having my drunk ass over for the stay. Hope I didn’t offend anyone too badly, I was pretty far gone by the 2nd. G’luck getting to the Final again next year (Sorry, our Cup in ’12 :) )

by VorAbaddon on Jun 16, 2011 4:42 PM PDT reply actions  

As a Hawks fan and someone who lived in Boston for several years

I wasn’t cheering for you guys. But as a Chicago sports fan I also know a lot about the misery of not getting the championship you’ve waited your whole life for. Your time will certainly come, and given how dominant this team was throughout most of the regular season and post-season, I’m sure it will be sooner rather than later. Congratulations on a great run, and we’ll see you next year.

Also, as much as I have disliked Kesler in the past, I have to say that this post-season he earned a lot of respect. He’s the heart and soul of your team and I was thoroughly impressed with both his play and the way he handled himself off the ice as well. Also thought it was really impressive of the Sedins to stick around after the game yesterday to make sure that all of the reporters who wanted to talk to them could. Really cool, and guys to be proud of.

by april o'neil on Jun 16, 2011 5:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Cheers

Kesler took a big step forward this year. Just need to get him some wingers now…

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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 16, 2011 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sidney

Crosby.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 16, 2011 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

hansen
Hansen can step up alongside Kesler or the twins as he sparingly in the regular season.

I like Hansen as a rockstar thirdliner, but he has no finish to be a first or second liner. Maybe one day, but we need a guy with super star finish for the top two lines. We don’t really have a pure “sniper” and I think it would really help us going forward.

I am in no way dissing Hansen. He and Tanev are going to be absolute studs.

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by SteveNux on Jun 16, 2011 5:18 PM PDT reply actions  

We don’t really have a pure "sniper" and I think it would really help us going forward.

Yes. Or at least a really good TWF for Kesler’s wing

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Once upon a time, the finishing abilities of one KesLord were in dispute.

Just saying.

by Coach Ryan on Jun 16, 2011 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

BART? So do you live in the Bay Area?

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by Diamondback15 on Jun 16, 2011 5:32 PM PDT reply actions  

You didn’t know he did?

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by Angy on Jun 16, 2011 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

no

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by Diamondback15 on Jun 16, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great, now I have someone to take my frustration out on!

jk
But seriously, you should get together with us Sharks fans and we can all be miserable together.

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by Diamondback15 on Jun 16, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure he hangs out with Sharks fans :)

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by Angy on Jun 16, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know. It was hard to get too much hate going with you guys

The Hawks seemed to take up so much of it, and the Preds team were annoying in the “diving” narrative to cover up their doing it to the Ducks last round…but most their fans were fun, the city looked to just accept the game without the hate, so there was none back.

By the time we got to the Sharks, there were ample things to get upset about ( Eager’s nutso thingy, Welly’s previous comments, etc )

But it was not so bad considering the stakes. Must be because you guys are fellow West Coaster. So, would SJ ever riot if they got so close? LOL

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by vancitydan on Jun 16, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only city in the Bay Area that riots is Oakland. SF & SJ are happy to leave it at that too. :)

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by Angy on Jun 16, 2011 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was there for the second Oscar Grant riot. It was all idiot anarchists from Berkeley which, as I’m told, is pretty standard for the area.

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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 16, 2011 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep. That it is. I prefer my side of the bay anyways. I’m a proud Peninsula snob. That and I can walk around at night without worrying bout stray bullets. :)

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by Angy on Jun 16, 2011 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well that’s always a bonus when choosing housing locations

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by Semi_Colon on Jun 16, 2011 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha, I don’t really know too many Sharks fans. I’m not invited to their parties. I don’t know the secret handshake (I did the chompy thing but just got laughed at) ;)

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by Yankee Canuck on Jun 16, 2011 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha … I refuse to do that jaw thing.

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by Angy on Jun 16, 2011 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Misery loves company

:(

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by Semi_Colon on Jun 16, 2011 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not to dwell on what happened last night

But I feel so sorry for you guys in Vancouver. Even though I am a Flyers fan, I was really rooting for the Canucks to win in the Final.(besides, Canada is due). Nevertheless, it really dismayed me to see a bunch of fucking imbeciles deface your city like that. I never have and never will understand why certain individuals feel the need to deface their city after all significant sporting defeat.

Nevertheless, it is good to see that the majority of Vancouverites are disgusted with it and are doing their best to clean up the city. .

I am 100% sure that Vancouver Canucks and the city as a whole will bounce back from this and come back stronger.

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by kofibiney on Jun 16, 2011 5:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Thanks for the support..it was very subdued in the city today. I sure hope that a lesson or two has been learned.

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by reggiedunlop on Jun 16, 2011 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

So...should we sign him up?
According to reports on MLive.com and the Detroit Free Press on Thursday, Jagr’s agent Petr Svoboda has put out feelers to five NHL teams – the Red Wings, Pittsburgh Penguins, Washington Capitals, New York Rangers and Montreal Canadiens – about the possibility of the future Hall of Famer signing on as a free agent.

by JJ Canuck on Jun 16, 2011 6:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Looks like he wants to play in the East. Except the understandable Detroit there

Has he ever played out West?

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by vancitydan on Jun 16, 2011 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

but Detroit may be moving to the East - right?

It doesn't hurt to be optimistic. You can always cry later.

by stacie7 on Jun 16, 2011 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

not necessarily

Supposedly, the West teams like them for the road draw. Perhaps you lose a Nashville or a Columbus instead.

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by vancitydan on Jun 16, 2011 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not until next year

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by Semi_Colon on Jun 16, 2011 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks Yankee

Good read after the disappointment of the game and the stunningly moronic debacle that followed on the streets. Much like ‘94, I did not care to watch any tv afterwards and as a result didn’t realize the scope of the rioting until this morning. Still can’t believe that it happened. Again.

It was a tough game to watch, but I was proud to see our band of walking-wounded ’Nucks give everything they had left in the tank. And finally, cheers to the true fans of hockey who stayed in the arena long enough to watch the Stanley Cup presentation to the Bruins and give a loud round of applause to Tim Thomas for his well-deserved Conn Smythe win.

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by reggiedunlop on Jun 16, 2011 6:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Noticed this moron wears a 17 shirt

Occurs to me that if I was Ryan Kesler or anybody else whose name and number were used in that way I would be really pissed off.

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by Tink for Nucks on Jun 16, 2011 7:19 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

He should fucking burn his jersey

he doesn’t deserve to wear it.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 16, 2011 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

All of these goons will be identified, located and charged

Kesler can have a word with them in jail if he likes, maybe they can put all the “number 17’s” in the same cell block for convenience.

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by Twin Terror on Jun 16, 2011 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not usually one for vigilante justice

But I like the idea of that. Of course those wearing 22 and 33 would probably just get a stern talking to and a deeply disappointed look. Any 3s would rue the day.

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by Tink for Nucks on Jun 16, 2011 10:03 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

14s would leave

with bite marks and a confused look trying to understand the accent.

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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 16, 2011 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably a few bald patches too.

by sunshine and lollipops on Jun 17, 2011 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hahahah

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by davisca on Jun 17, 2011 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Went downtown today

destruction is extensive. Signed the boarded up windows with “CANUCKS 2012!”.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 16, 2011 7:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Nice :)

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by davisca on Jun 17, 2011 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

destruction is considerable

however the outpouring of help and support is amazing and outstrips the destruction.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 17, 2011 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

The whole riot thing

Makes me think maybe I don’t want my husband to apply for that job in Burnaby…

by canuckgirl on Jun 16, 2011 8:10 PM PDT reply actions  

meh

It was pretty quiet out here in Burnaby! :)

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by Pseuccubus on Jun 16, 2011 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

ha!

I just got a job in Burnaby! Burnaby is really safe, far from any carnage in the downtown core.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 16, 2011 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I live in East Van

It’s just fine here.

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by Twin Terror on Jun 16, 2011 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like I said I don’t know. someone just told me that I should stay away from E Van. Obviously a lot has to come down to where you can afford and what you are looking for.
I have a 10 year old so schools will be a big thing for me.I thought maybe N Van but Husband is saying commute would be horrid. Have no idea and it’s only if he gets that particular job so…

by canuckgirl on Jun 16, 2011 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

East Van is good

basically the only place you need to maybe avoid is E. Hastings and Main. But I doubt you’ll be living or working there.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 16, 2011 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I live in East Van

And work close to Main and Hastings. Wouldn’t want to live or work right, there but I love where I live and work.

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by Tink for Nucks on Jun 16, 2011 9:44 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'd like to live on Commercial

close enough to the city but not in the thick of it.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 16, 2011 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I live on commercial

in east van, it’s fine but every neighbourhood has some unsavory elements in the city. I’ll tell you this, I feel 1000 times safer in Vancouver than I ever did in any of the suburbs, and i’ve lived in a few of them. The city has more panhandler, but less roving gangs of toughs…that simple. The riot was not in a residential area, no need to worry about that kinda thing. I lived in north van for a few years, and while it was safe enough, I was always afraid to go to the neighbourhood convenience store at night…just a bunch of tough guys always hanging out…don’t see that so much in Vancouver proper. Like I said, in the city it’s the bums…and the bums are basically 100% harmless. Even the crazy ones. Favorite part of the lower mainland to live was the west end, but it’s an anthill. I have friends with teenage kids in coquitlam (never lived there myself) and they seem to like it.

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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 16, 2011 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

North Van toughs?

Don’t you mean rich kids driving their parents BMVs like Nascar racers?

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 16, 2011 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

that's west van

north van is actually not unlike east van, except replace the first nations folk with persians. It’s not a rich part of town, but no lower east side…

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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 16, 2011 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

North Van is both

Its an Upper and Lower Lonsdale type thing. I used to run a movie theatre in West Van. You got it right there though.

Some of the scarier types I met over there were the faux tough Persians in daddy’s Beemers, but there was a few of them from the North Van side too…

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by vancitydan on Jun 16, 2011 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will say this

the source of all bad drivers in Vancouver is not Richmond… it is North Van.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 16, 2011 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Middle Eastern rich boys

Nope dealt with that enough, don’t want that…
I would rather deal with gang bangin African Americans any day over that.
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by canuckgirl on Jun 17, 2011 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

exactly

entitled assholes

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 17, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I live in east van too

and I like it a lot but if you’re moving here and looking which area to live in i’d have to recommend kits. It’s close to everything and you’re walking distance to a beach. Kits beach itself isn’t fantastic (unless you like to play basketball like me) but all the little beaches between kits and Jericho are a great place to clear your head. In my opinion living in Kits gives you the ultimate Vancouver experience. That being said Vancouver is a super safe town besides the downtown east side, whoever warned you about east van must have meant there but that’s not east van.

by Canuckelhead on Jun 16, 2011 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll tell u one thing

i’ve been robbed only twice in the 17 years i’ve lived here…both times in different houses in kits…

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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 16, 2011 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lived in Gastown for 5 years too

And it was safer in the DTES than people think. poor does not mean bad, all the time. Criminal element is definitely deeply entrenched down there, and the problems are real. But they look out for each other there.

I was robbed twice, and it was my D/T apt. Assaulted once, and it was on Granville, and it was bridge and tunnel toughs from the Burbs’

So, sometimes all the cliches are not totally wrong!

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by vancitydan on Jun 16, 2011 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bridge and Tunnel toughs

hahaha they use that hear too, I thought that was only a New York thing to describe Jersey Guidos!

fuggedaboutit!

by canuckgirl on Jun 17, 2011 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, you leave Jersey alone!

Bridge and tunnel is in the bay area too.

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"Pucks are awful little things" - Passive Voice.

by Yankee Canuck on Jun 17, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Getting broken into

is unfortunately part of the deal living anywhere in Vancouver. I’ve been broken into twice in my current home in East Van and i’ve only lived here two years. I think i’ve finally got the bastards beat with my new security measures though. /knockonwood. The next step will be an electrical shock if you touch my sliding glass door.

by Canuckelhead on Jun 16, 2011 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kitsilano

does look really nice but isn’t it super pricey like Yaletown?

I need a boring family type neighborhood:soccer fields, playgrounds good schools, etc within decent commute of South Burnaby area, but only if he gets that particular job. I’ve grown up in a city so I know every area has it’s pockets of nice and not-so-nice. Also, property crime can happen anywhere at anytime so that’s not really something you can move to an area where you’re 100 percent immune to it. That being said it would be nice if we could find an area where my son could ride his bike to his friends house without being jacked for it on the way

by canuckgirl on Jun 17, 2011 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've always figured

north burnaby…brentwood mall area would be the place i’d live if I had kids.

"Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind."
Dropping F-bombs since the early 70's.
'Nucks Misconduct Sr. VP of Inappropriateness and Questionable Conduct, second director of immaturity. My twitter account

by Twitchy2010 on Jun 17, 2011 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have friends who live in a nice boring family neighbourhood in Burnaby

Prices are a lot better than Vancouver proper. You should probably look close to where the job is.

Daniel Sedin on Mike Milbury: "He made a bad comment about us, calling us women. I don’t know how he looks at women. I would be pretty mad if I was a woman."

by Tink for Nucks on Jun 17, 2011 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

N. Burnaby is where I'm at with a kid

I liked it, until last month when the gang task force from two different cities combined to bust a gang member in my building who had coke, meth, heroine, and guns. YAY.

Olympic convert hockey n00b
♥Canucks ♥
(and ♥Coyotes♥)

by Pseuccubus on Jun 17, 2011 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Joyce area

maybe.

"Sometimes grown-ups have low self-esteem and get on guys and say stupid stuff. I think he has to be happy with his career. He did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that" - Captain Henrik Sedin, on Mike Milbury and his comments
Nucks Misconduct's official black guy and first line center (Twitter's 1st line center also).

by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 17, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I lived the first 26 years of my life

in Langley, Abbotsford, Mission, Burnaby, and Surrey and I never once saw a roving gang of “toughs”. In fact every time I think about the term “roving gangs of toughs” I laugh heartily.

"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Are you out of your fucking mind? You think I'm just going to rape you on the off chance that hopefully you're into that shit?" - Louis CK
Nucks Misconduct's Prodigal Son, Chief Curmudgeon, and Chief Hunk.

by Section 312 on Jun 16, 2011 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am the leader

of the Van Buren boys.

"Sometimes grown-ups have low self-esteem and get on guys and say stupid stuff. I think he has to be happy with his career. He did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that" - Captain Henrik Sedin, on Mike Milbury and his comments
Nucks Misconduct's official black guy and first line center (Twitter's 1st line center also).

by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 17, 2011 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

You are online

an awful lot for some out “roving” though.

"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Are you out of your fucking mind? You think I'm just going to rape you on the off chance that hopefully you're into that shit?" - Louis CK
Nucks Misconduct's Prodigal Son, Chief Curmudgeon, and Chief Hunk.

by Section 312 on Jun 17, 2011 3:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

e-roving

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Jun 17, 2011 6:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I control things

from my lair.

"Sometimes grown-ups have low self-esteem and get on guys and say stupid stuff. I think he has to be happy with his career. He did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that" - Captain Henrik Sedin, on Mike Milbury and his comments
Nucks Misconduct's official black guy and first line center (Twitter's 1st line center also).

by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 17, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey! i live in Surrey! I do live in a nicer area though. There are lots of different patches of Surrey, some good, some not so good. Delta is good, people always lump it in with Surrey. South Surrey is good, Morgan Heights, Panorama Ridge. I basically just don’t go into Newton, Whalley, etc. I don’t really know any of the other areas.

by sunshine and lollipops on Jun 17, 2011 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think it's time for this old joke

What the best part about living in White Rock?

Never having to say you’re Surrey.

Daniel Sedin on Mike Milbury: "He made a bad comment about us, calling us women. I don’t know how he looks at women. I would be pretty mad if I was a woman."

by Tink for Nucks on Jun 17, 2011 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I actually never say I live in Surrey lol. I moved there a few years ago after getting married. I’d always lived in Vancouver before that and vowed I would never move. Obv I can’t afford a house in Van, but just bought in in Panorama :)

by sunshine and lollipops on Jun 17, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Panorama is nice

I worked at the Tong Louie YMCA on Panorama Dr.

"Sometimes grown-ups have low self-esteem and get on guys and say stupid stuff. I think he has to be happy with his career. He did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that" - Captain Henrik Sedin, on Mike Milbury and his comments
Nucks Misconduct's official black guy and first line center (Twitter's 1st line center also).

by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 17, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

:O I used to work out there. I probably saw you around.

by sunshine and lollipops on Jun 17, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah my sister in law does too, in a nice bsmt suite in a nice house.
My issue about where she lives in Surrey is the messed up street names: all numbers.I’m sorry but naming a street 109 and then having a 109a is ridiculous.

by canuckgirl on Jun 17, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah, what the hell am I saying. I used to live an hour away from Detroit. Surrey kids don’t scare me ;)

by canuckgirl on Jun 16, 2011 8:11 PM PDT reply actions  

meh
Compared to my first job teaching? that’s nothing… One of my ex-students beat a grown man to death with bare hands, no riot either. just. was. bored.

by canuckgirl on Jun 16, 2011 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's all relative, I guess.

In Vancouver, the drug-addled mentally ill homeless urban people are far more civilized and peaceful than the entitled suburban momma-boys with out-of-touch abusive dads they raise in the suburbs.
Most dangerous place for violent crime in the metro area here is the Surrey Central Skytrain station.

by Daoust501 on Jun 16, 2011 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not that I am going to go march into a drunken crowd of thousands of them,mind you!

by canuckgirl on Jun 16, 2011 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I take back everything I said about Boston fans

They celebrated peacefully while our yahoos gooned it up yet again.

It’s becoming embarrassing to be a Vancouverite.

GOODBYE LUONGO!

by Twin Terror on Jun 16, 2011 8:36 PM PDT reply actions  

I think

they would have rioted win or lose.

"Sometimes grown-ups have low self-esteem and get on guys and say stupid stuff. I think he has to be happy with his career. He did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that" - Captain Henrik Sedin, on Mike Milbury and his comments
Nucks Misconduct's official black guy and first line center (Twitter's 1st line center also).

by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 16, 2011 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Taking the bus home from work

there was a group of high-school-aged guys talking about how it was “a good day for a riot” and how they were planning to kick in windows when the cops weren’t around. I hoped they were just talking out their asses.

by Daoust501 on Jun 16, 2011 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Surrey Skytrain

Yeah I have been there. My husbands sister and her bf live in surrey, in one of those new developments…

by canuckgirl on Jun 16, 2011 8:36 PM PDT reply actions  

true dat

the whole thing looked planned out by a few with a few drunken bandwagon jumpers

by canuckgirl on Jun 16, 2011 8:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Spend the summer

looking for a pure sniper to go on the second line that isn’t 5 years past being a legitimate sniper.

Don't drink and park, accidents cause people!
If it ain't got a packet, go home and whack it.
I'm just a loser geek, crazy with an evil streak! -- everclear

by mfarough on Jun 16, 2011 9:07 PM PDT reply actions  

He’s not a sniper but what about jussi jokinen for cheap?

"I prematurely shot my wad on what was supposed to be a dry run, if you will, so now I'm afraid i have something of a mess on my hands."
"There's just so many poorly chosen words in that sentence."

by PKSube on Jun 16, 2011 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Burkie

already has dibs on him.

"Sometimes grown-ups have low self-esteem and get on guys and say stupid stuff. I think he has to be happy with his career. He did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that" - Captain Henrik Sedin, on Mike Milbury and his comments
Nucks Misconduct's official black guy and first line center (Twitter's 1st line center also).

by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 16, 2011 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like it. A creative goal scorer just might be what we need to beat elite goaltenders that are good at shutting down conventional shooting attempts.

"I think he has to be happy with his career, he did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that." - Henrik Sedin on Mike Millbury
(Dallascanuck, M.D., the real kind, not the Mark Recchi, M.D. kind)

by dallascanuck on Jun 16, 2011 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW56LSffJtc

I believe the number 1 goal in this highlight video shows Jokinen victimizing Tim Thomas with the Forsberg one-hander.

"I think he has to be happy with his career, he did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that." - Henrik Sedin on Mike Millbury
(Dallascanuck, M.D., the real kind, not the Mark Recchi, M.D. kind)

by dallascanuck on Jun 16, 2011 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

hehe

sign all the Thomas killers in the league!

Don't drink and park, accidents cause people!
If it ain't got a packet, go home and whack it.
I'm just a loser geek, crazy with an evil streak! -- everclear

by mfarough on Jun 16, 2011 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like this?

"I prematurely shot my wad on what was supposed to be a dry run, if you will, so now I'm afraid i have something of a mess on my hands."
"There's just so many poorly chosen words in that sentence."

by PKSube on Jun 17, 2011 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

NASTY

NAZEM

GOOD LONDON KID

MAKE SURE YOU KEEP HIM AROUND BURKIE

"Sometimes grown-ups have low self-esteem and get on guys and say stupid stuff. I think he has to be happy with his career. He did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that" - Captain Henrik Sedin, on Mike Milbury and his comments
Nucks Misconduct's official black guy and first line center (Twitter's 1st line center also).

by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 17, 2011 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

THE LEG KICK

WATCH THE LEG KICK

OHHHHHHHH DOUBLE RAINBOW

"Sometimes grown-ups have low self-esteem and get on guys and say stupid stuff. I think he has to be happy with his career. He did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that" - Captain Henrik Sedin, on Mike Milbury and his comments
Nucks Misconduct's official black guy and first line center (Twitter's 1st line center also).

by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 17, 2011 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Basically if you want Tim Thomas killers then take the Leafs roster. 4-2 season series bitches! Therefore we would have totally won the Stanley cup if we made it

"I prematurely shot my wad on what was supposed to be a dry run, if you will, so now I'm afraid i have something of a mess on my hands."
"There's just so many poorly chosen words in that sentence."

by PKSube on Jun 17, 2011 1:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah but

the whole not making the playoffs really ruined that. If you sign Richie and keep Lebda and Komi the fuck AWAY from the ACC then maybe next year you’ll make it as an 8th seed.

I do like that Grabbo and Kadri. Here you go Kesler, here are you new wingers!

"Sometimes grown-ups have low self-esteem and get on guys and say stupid stuff. I think he has to be happy with his career. He did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that" - Captain Henrik Sedin, on Mike Milbury and his comments
Nucks Misconduct's official black guy and first line center (Twitter's 1st line center also).

by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 17, 2011 1:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

You shall not be recieving Grabbo

Although I think Kadri may be traded this summer if the price is right. Komi could get better, I still have hope but Lebda is beyond redemption of any kind

"I prematurely shot my wad on what was supposed to be a dry run, if you will, so now I'm afraid i have something of a mess on my hands."
"There's just so many poorly chosen words in that sentence."

by PKSube on Jun 17, 2011 1:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Grabbo and Kadri

are really the only ones I want.

"Sometimes grown-ups have low self-esteem and get on guys and say stupid stuff. I think he has to be happy with his career. He did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that" - Captain Henrik Sedin, on Mike Milbury and his comments
Nucks Misconduct's official black guy and first line center (Twitter's 1st line center also).

by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 17, 2011 2:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kulemin would actually be a pretty good fit with Kesler, but you can’t have him

"I prematurely shot my wad on what was supposed to be a dry run, if you will, so now I'm afraid i have something of a mess on my hands."
"There's just so many poorly chosen words in that sentence."

by PKSube on Jun 17, 2011 2:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

We'll give you

Bally for Kulie.

"Sometimes grown-ups have low self-esteem and get on guys and say stupid stuff. I think he has to be happy with his career. He did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that" - Captain Henrik Sedin, on Mike Milbury and his comments
Nucks Misconduct's official black guy and first line center (Twitter's 1st line center also).

by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 17, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

we can have either...

a power forward type 2nd liner or a sniper type 2nd liner.
i’d rather have a power forward type 2nd liner. we have too many of the sniper type in the AHL already, although using “sniper” is a little generous. shirokov i’m quite convinced makes a great 2nd sniper-type liner if he can handle the physical grind.

by Lingyis on Jun 16, 2011 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Excellent post, a good read for any hockey fan, I’m pretty sure all of our minds work like that.

You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
[whispers] I sexually assaulted Scottie Pippen in 1997.

by DocPepper on Jun 16, 2011 9:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Odds of Winning 2012 Stanley Cup

I’m sure this doesn’t mean much and I’m not sure how they Bodog came up with these:

Odds to win the 2012 Stanley Cup

Vancouver Canucks 5/1
Boston Bruins 8/1
Washington Capitals 17/2
Philadelphia Flyers 9/1
Pittsburgh Penguins 9/1
San Jose Sharks 9/1
Detroit Red Wings 12/1
Tampa Bay Lightning 12/1

The rest at http://www.kuklaskorner.com/index.php/hockey/comments/can_we_talk_2012_odds_yet/

"I think he has to be happy with his career, he did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that." - Henrik Sedin on Mike Millbury
(Dallascanuck, M.D., the real kind, not the Mark Recchi, M.D. kind)

by dallascanuck on Jun 16, 2011 10:02 PM PDT reply actions  

blues at 45-1 and chicago at 15-1? free money!

by Passive Voice on Jun 16, 2011 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like Florida’s 125-1… yikes haha

Every time I step up in the building, everybody's hands go UP..... AND THEY STAY THERE.
-nashvillepredators-

by davisca on Jun 17, 2011 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

amazing gif

"Sometimes grown-ups have low self-esteem and get on guys and say stupid stuff. I think he has to be happy with his career. He did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that" - Captain Henrik Sedin, on Mike Milbury and his comments
Nucks Misconduct's official black guy and first line center (Twitter's 1st line center also).

by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 16, 2011 11:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Whole team was downtown at Cactus Club tonight for Juice's 30th birthday

"Sometimes grown-ups have low self-esteem and get on guys and say stupid stuff. I think he has to be happy with his career. He did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that" - Captain Henrik Sedin, on Mike Milbury and his comments
Nucks Misconduct's official black guy and first line center (Twitter's 1st line center also).

by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 17, 2011 1:23 AM PDT reply actions  

Did you take this shot?

'Nucks Misconduct - Housing Swedish Millionaires Since 2000.

140 characters of pure hell

"Pucks are awful little things" - Passive Voice.

by Yankee Canuck on Jun 17, 2011 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nope

found it on the internets.

"Sometimes grown-ups have low self-esteem and get on guys and say stupid stuff. I think he has to be happy with his career. He did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that" - Captain Henrik Sedin, on Mike Milbury and his comments
Nucks Misconduct's official black guy and first line center (Twitter's 1st line center also).

by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 17, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Stanley Cup riot coverage here in the East...

…is being painted as “Canucks fans”. The broad brush is out and all of us wearing Canuck colours seem to be thought of as hooligans and second class caveman cousins of all the more noble fans in the 29 other cities around the league. Certain hosts on the Fan 590 and even community talk radio shows have raved on about how stupid we all are, how the hits by Torres & Rome et.al. are consistent with the disrespect Canucks fans have for other teams and the game itself, some even suggesting we don’t deserve to have a team.

I am from the City and know these are just idiots looking for the anonymity afforded by the mob environment, but the consequences are very unfortunate all around.

Soldiering on…

Born with the Canucks - so close I could almost taste it, but was only a mirage in the desert...

Linden is a god, and Messier will forever SUCK!!!

by vanplant on Jun 17, 2011 7:06 AM PDT reply actions  

REC'D

LIKE ITS NEVER BEEN REC’D BEFORE.

"Sometimes grown-ups have low self-esteem and get on guys and say stupid stuff. I think he has to be happy with his career. He did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that" - Captain Henrik Sedin, on Mike Milbury and his comments
Nucks Misconduct's official black guy and first line center (Twitter's 1st line center also).

by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 17, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

+10000

Every time I step up in the building, everybody's hands go UP..... AND THEY STAY THERE.
-nashvillepredators-

by davisca on Jun 17, 2011 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great post

But in terms of fugly playoff beards, nothing comes close to that clearcut stringy weed field that Marchand was sporting.

by slackjaw on Jun 17, 2011 8:16 AM PDT reply actions  

That’s really good.

Daniel Sedin on Mike Milbury: "He made a bad comment about us, calling us women. I don’t know how he looks at women. I would be pretty mad if I was a woman."

by Tink for Nucks on Jun 17, 2011 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

That is some lulz

right there.

"Sometimes grown-ups have low self-esteem and get on guys and say stupid stuff. I think he has to be happy with his career. He did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that" - Captain Henrik Sedin, on Mike Milbury and his comments
Nucks Misconduct's official black guy and first line center (Twitter's 1st line center also).

by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 17, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I chuckled.

That’s good.

Every time I step up in the building, everybody's hands go UP..... AND THEY STAY THERE.
-nashvillepredators-

by davisca on Jun 17, 2011 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

An apology

Someone used my computer on Wednesday night to create a troll account (BruinsBeatCanucks). I’ve given all the details to Yankee Canuck so I’ll spare you and just say here that it was the latest event in a long-standing blood feud with a few of my best friends who are Bruins fans and Rangers fans. It’s usually very funny except that they targeted you guys to get back at me, which was not funny especially given the timing.

You can only apologize so much for what someone else does but I’m sorry about it. Even though I’m a Flyers fan I spend most of my SBNation time at SCH and I’m pretty sure they’ll tell you I’m anti-trolling and in general they like having me around the house. This is not something I would do.

As you can imagine from last year, I empathize with your pain. 3 1/2 months to puck drop.

by flyersfaninchicago on Jun 17, 2011 9:45 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

get new friends

Olympic convert hockey n00b
♥Canucks ♥
(and ♥Coyotes♥)

by Pseuccubus on Jun 17, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey now

It’s not his fault. It’s all good.

'Nucks Misconduct - Housing Swedish Millionaires Since 2000.

140 characters of pure hell

"Pucks are awful little things" - Passive Voice.

by Yankee Canuck on Jun 17, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I saw one of my good friends who is a Bruins fan joined the night of game seven. He hasn’t said anything yet but I will unleash the dogs of war in person if he does. ;)

'Nucks Misconduct - Housing Swedish Millionaires Since 2000.

140 characters of pure hell

"Pucks are awful little things" - Passive Voice.

by Yankee Canuck on Jun 17, 2011 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I appreciate it Yankee. Thanks

by flyersfaninchicago on Jun 17, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I understand the response, but these guys are the best. I’m godfather to one of their kids and we’d do anything for each other. The ball-busting is our way to be “stupid juvenile men” but usually we keep other people out of it.

by flyersfaninchicago on Jun 17, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry about the warning then

I’ve seen you over at SCH (well, saw now) and you seemed decent. But you can never truly tell with people online if they are hiding an inner desire to troll or not ;)

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Jun 17, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

no worries. the warning made sense given the information you had. actually a ban made sense. You definitely had a troll and it looked like it was me.

by flyersfaninchicago on Jun 17, 2011 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

props

for coming in and saying something…

"Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind."
Dropping F-bombs since the early 70's.
'Nucks Misconduct Sr. VP of Inappropriateness and Questionable Conduct, second director of immaturity. My twitter account

by Twitchy2010 on Jun 17, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can attest for flyersfan

He’s been upstanding at SCH and I was quite shocked to see his banishment over here. Glad to see it has been fixed. If you’re lucky maybe he’ll do some blog stats for you. They are quite entertaining.

It doesn't hurt to be optimistic. You can always cry later.

by stacie7 on Jun 17, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

hey thanks stacie. there’s a non-compete clause in my contract with SCH for the blog stats.

keep that kool-aid brewing, or fertilized.

by flyersfaninchicago on Jun 17, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

hey now

no pimping out flyersfan and his blog-stats to other sites!

SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.

by ahnfire on Jun 17, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Always thought you were nicer than that . :p

Win it for Manny!
Nucks Misconduct's chief slab of man meat and resident doucherocket.

by kesrows on Jun 17, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

see, stacie. the non-compete clause is policed with ferocity.

by flyersfaninchicago on Jun 17, 2011 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

well you haven't been around lately

so you are going to get fired mister – quit playing with the Nucks and get back to SCH

It doesn't hurt to be optimistic. You can always cry later.

by stacie7 on Jun 17, 2011 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I take summers off to recover from all the injuries that I’m not allowed to talk about because it’s unmanly. You know the code…

The Nunavut Iditarods, who were eliminated from the Stanley Cup playoffs yesterday, announced that all 25 players on their active roster would have dual hip replacement surgery in the off-season. A number of players missed games during the playoffs, but questions about the extent of injuries were met with vague responses of “collective undisclosed lower-body day-to-day conditions.”

When asked yesterday, one of the players said “Everybody’s dinged up this time of year. It’s no excuse. You just lace up and make sure your walker isn’t cracked and you skate your wing.”

Thinking is hard work and typing even more so. These are my peak earning years and I have to think about my family and put food on the table. Cat food, but still. I’ll be back in October.

by flyersfaninchicago on Jun 17, 2011 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

well as long as it was just a lower body injury

we don’t want you concussed trying to make us laugh

It doesn't hurt to be optimistic. You can always cry later.

by stacie7 on Jun 18, 2011 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

By the way

I don’t like your signature anymore. Because it came true

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Jun 17, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well that goes for both of my teams

I will have to work on a new one for the summer.

It doesn't hurt to be optimistic. You can always cry later.

by stacie7 on Jun 17, 2011 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Guess who did our eulogy?
SCH…

xv. Damn.
Least we still have Stanley...Park?

by eightyseven on Jun 17, 2011 10:42 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Ah crap. I was hoping it wouldn’t be them.

by sunshine and lollipops on Jun 17, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whatever it says

(and I’m not going to read it) I know for a fact it won’t be as funny or scathing as the one Harrison from PITB did on them. I’m good with it. :)

Olympic convert hockey n00b
♥Canucks ♥
(and ♥Coyotes♥)

by Pseuccubus on Jun 17, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Harrison was so damn witty. English prowess, he doth have.

xv. Damn.
Least we still have Stanley...Park?

by eightyseven on Jun 17, 2011 10:47 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Knew it was coming.

CNS was on SCoC before Game 7 begging the Bruins to win so they could post our Eulogy.

Quite vitriolic and savage, but that is the point so yeah. Sigh, not much to say.

Work hard, play harder, rest easy.

by jwolf0 on Jun 17, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

thing is

no matter how well it’s written, few outsiders will ever have any opinion on it other than thinking SCH are sore losers trying to dance on the grave of an opponent someone else had to kill for them.

Olympic convert hockey n00b
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by Pseuccubus on Jun 17, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not for us, remember? We're the Canucks.

It hits and feeds into all the negative points you expect and have read for yourself. I really believe the only reason it wasn’t online 5 minutes after Game 7 was over was because they wanted to fit the rioting in.

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by jwolf0 on Jun 17, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

meh

it’s not that bad… typical PD eulogy stuff, nothing too surprising or egregious in there "blah blah luongo sucks, the sedins are girls, your gm whines etc etc’. I didn’t expect anything less. I was pleasantly surprised that he didn’t eulogize the team by bashing the fans all that much, like some of these have done, and although there was a ton of sour grapes, it was neither the best nor the worst of the eulogies this year. I give it a pass; expect the worst and be pleasantly surprised by the lack of blood pressure increase. Maybe i’ve just been desensitized to all the jabs he used, which were everything the MSM’s been saying since the start of the SJ series. The illustrations were funny too. I didn’t hate it.

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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 17, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

It seemed like a paint-by-numbers routine with pretty Photoshops.

It’s not the worst eulogy I’ve seen and if I wasn’t a Canucks fan I’d probably chuckle a bit more at it. That said, it felt to me like he went after the fans quite a bit.

You are clearly marked out as a classless organization and fanbase, and a gutless team. That will go down in history.
You can stop invading our blogs to look for love, like your goalie who needed it from the opposing stopper.

But at the end of the day, we’ve heard that all before, about the team and the fanbase. So it’s there, it did what it was supposed to do. It certainly isn’t for us and react to, and it wasn’t intended for us. I read it, I frowned, then I turned to wondering what it will take to get back to the SCF.

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by jwolf0 on Jun 17, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

well he did poke the fans

a couple times, but my point was he didn’t eulogize the team by bootfucking the fan base like some of the eulogies have. His points against the fans are pretty limited and mild, really.

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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 17, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

True. I'm not bitter or angry over the Eulogy.

The Eulogies are pieces that serve two purposes IMO: To give anyone who doesn’t like that team a chance to dance on their grave, (This year, there’s a lot of people dancing.) and cause Canuck fans butthurt with maybe a chuckle or two. The thing that struck me the most was the copious amounts of rage located in the piece. How can I be properly butthurt when Sam’s angrier than I am?

I guess what I was saying before rambling into a tangent* is that there are a lot of negative things said (which is what Sam and CNS are supposed to do), but they’re all things we’ve heard before. Repeatedly. From everywhere. It loses its sting after a while. So I’m with you on being meh and not hating it.

*Which I seem to do a lot. :/

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by jwolf0 on Jun 17, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't need to read it

To know exactly what it’s going to day

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by Semi_Colon on Jun 17, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

to day?

What the hell.

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Jun 17, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Allergies? A cold?

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by davisca on Jun 17, 2011 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just read it. It was more angry than funny. Disappointing.

by sunshine and lollipops on Jun 17, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, I got a paragraph or three in, saw what road I was heading down

…and clicked elsewhere. Sorry Sam. Not your best effort.

Whatever. I find it kinda comforting that this all consuming, palpable hatred that we supposedly had after two straight playoff losses has been far surpassed by the vitriolic and overwrought response after their loss this year.

Don’t they know what Star Wars taught us about all consuming hatred?

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by vancitydan on Jun 17, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

That is the angriest eulogy Ive ever read

we must have really gotten under their skin.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 17, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just don’t get all that anger. Seriously,you BARELY made it into the playoffs, got beat in the first round by the season favorite for the cup and pres trophy winners.You beat us several times in a row in years past.

Why so mad?

by canuckgirl on Jun 17, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well....

…for starters, the Cubs have sucked for years (over 100 now, right?) and are well under .500, the White Sox have been crappy for the last few years are well under .500 this year, the Bears are on the high end of good (but can’t play consistently enough to finish the job), the Bulls finally did well for the first time in years (but then lost), and the Blackhawks did nothing for 40-something years before finally winning another cup, and then barely clawed their way into the finals the next year…

Yeah, I could see the anger there. Don’t really care though haha.

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by davisca on Jun 17, 2011 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

O

THEY MAD

"Sometimes grown-ups have low self-esteem and get on guys and say stupid stuff. I think he has to be happy with his career. He did a great job on Long Island. I’m sure he is happy with that" - Captain Henrik Sedin, on Mike Milbury and his comments
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 17, 2011 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

ok yeah

their other teams are lackluster..um, so? not the only ones. Good lord, Detroit Lions anyone? They built a temporarily over the cap team to get the cup and had to dismantle it after.They used their strategy it worked they got the cup, and had to deal with the consequences afterword.They act like the Vancouver Canucks were somehow personally responsible for their lackluster year this year. It goes a little above and beyond just butt hurt. More like stalker wall full of articles and lit candles Buffalo Bill it puts the lotion on its skin kinda angry IMO

by canuckgirl on Jun 18, 2011 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

just in case

this isn’t apparent. I am only talking about SOME of the guys at SCH.
We have had some really nice Hawk fans over here

by canuckgirl on Jun 18, 2011 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Of course!

Everyone has their fair share of idiots.

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by davisca on Jun 18, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Believe it or not

We are not terribly angry at the loss. Don’t be mistaken we would have loved to beat you, but it was all to obvious to us the Hawks were running on fumes at the end. We know they probably had no shot at winning it just for that fact, and and would have probably sputtered out in round two.

We knew the cost of winning the cup in 2010 would cost allot in 2011. Hopes were still high, but we all knew the reality of the situation, the Hawks never got it all together soon enough and it killed their energy for the playoffs.

Many, if not most at SCH are taking the early exit as somewhat of a blessing in disguise. The team can rest, clear its head and build on the core and base they have that got them to the silly season. We know next years Hawks will be stronger because of this. Like I said, don’t get me wrong, we would have liked to beat you, but on the flip side we also know it was better to get it done and over with, then drag it out. Our injuries have been addressed, some players have new contracts, and the team is relaxing.

So no we are not Angry, perhaps a little disappointed yes,angry no. As for the Hate for your team, well that is a different matter, but it is pretty much the same thing mentioned from other teams fans bases as well, but just amplified due to some instances between our teams, but losing is not one of them.

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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 18, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

sad watching the last interviews during the locker clean out

but it was nice hearing Juice say he’s optimistic about the possibility of staying on the team.

by BW79 on Jun 17, 2011 11:35 AM PDT reply actions  

hmmmmm
@mattsekeres
Matthew Sekeres
Kevin Bieksa, Christian Ehrhoff and Sami Salo all suggest they would take less to remain Canucks. UFAs as of July 1.
@FarhanLaljiTSN
Farhan Lalji
Bieksa very optimistic about getting signed by #Canucks long term before July 1. Hamhuis needs surgery & may not be back for training camp

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by Semi_Colon on Jun 17, 2011 11:49 AM PDT reply actions  

Looks

like a lot of injured players may not be ready for the training camp. Not a pretty picture.

Los Angeles, CA

by AttilaS on Jun 17, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

When you play 25% more than some other teams… it’s going to take a toll. I’m hoping our boys can get rested, get healed up, and get ready for a brighter futuree.

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by Vancouverguy on Jun 17, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t really mind if he misses training camp. He may as well heal up and be 100% instead of hurting at the end of the regular season because he’s tired by then. And it’ll give us a chance to see some more talent from the farm…where is our farm going to be? :S

by sunshine and lollipops on Jun 17, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Erhoff

has to see the writing on the wall.

by canuckgirl on Jun 17, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

How much though

is it enough for Gillis to get 3-4MM together to get a top-6 forward that makes us even more dangerous?

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by Canuckles on Jun 17, 2011 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

This summer

will be critical, for the future of this franchise. GMMG can push the team over the top, and make it the overwhelming favorite for the cup next year.
But it will takes some courage to do so. When I say courage, I mean that he will need to look at existing contracts, and decide whether or not they make sense, from a financial standpoint.

This means one thing, amongst others: if the fans thought that Luongo’s performance was over-scrutinized over the past years, they ain’t seen nothing yet. This off-season, Lu will be analized and looked at, like never before. And for good reasons, not the Luongo-hating bullshit.
Luongo is a good goalie. Not a great one, but a good one. If we look at the existing 60 or so goalies in the League, he is above average. The question will be: what can improve this team the most – trading him, and use his cap-hit to add one of two GREAT pieces to this team (while deploying Schneider), or keep Lu and add nothing to the current roster.
It’s a cost-benefit analysis, nothing more. The decision will largely depend on who is available right now. If there is a great player available, but cap space is needed, that could trigger the negotiations with Lu and with any takers. If there is not much available, regardless of how much cap space the Canucks have, then there is no point going through the exercise.

At this point they pretty much know what can be expected from Luongo. They know that Lu can give them a very good regular season performance. This means that teams Like Dallas, or Winnipeg, or any other team whose biggest concern is to make the playoffs, would be happy to take him.
But they also know that he is prone to major break-downs, especially in high-pressure situations, like the playoffs. It happened so many times, that there is no reason to assume that it will not happen again. They also know that it is unlikely that Lu will pull a playoff performance like Thomas, or Giguerre (during his cup run), or Niemi (with Chicago). It could happen, but it is unlikely.

So the question is simple: what will give them the greatest chance to win the cup next year. Luongo, or no Luongo? The Canucks have to look at this objectively. If they do, I am sure that Luongo will work with them, even with his non-trading clause in place.
GMMG can make a great move, and be a genious. But he can also screw up big time, if he trades Luongo for a player that turns out to be a bust (Messier comes to mind).

It remains to be seen, how much courage he has, to shake up this team.

Los Angeles, CA

by AttilaS on Jun 17, 2011 11:55 AM PDT reply actions  

TRADE LUONGO!!

In all seriousness, I do think trading him would be beneficial for the team. The Canucks want to be a team that wins the Stanley Cup, not a team that wins the regular season. (well they want to be both, but the Stanley Cup has more importance). We need someone that will shine in the playoffs. I’m not sure if Schneider can handle it, but we know well enough that when under pressure, Luongo can’t save the team the way Thomas can.

by Chocolate on Jun 17, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Luongo can save us that way

But the difference was, Thomas had a better team playing in front of him. Let’s be real here, the Canucks were the more talented players, but Boston was the better team overall. We didn’t dominate the Bruins and they squeezed out 4 wins. We didn’t adjust our attack to exploit Thomas’ weaknesses and our D looked completely out of gas, all while the Bruins fought through every game. Not take anything away from Thomas, he was excellent. But these comparisons are maddening. Luongo stole 3 games for us in the Finals. 2/3 wins were shutouts, and in the other game he was sublime while Thomas was average. The reason we were excited about our chances after game 2 was because Luongo was playing excellent behind an average Canucks team. But the team regressed in Boston and Luongo couldn’t hold it up forever. Then he turned in a bad game (I can’t hold game three on him – a blowout happens because the team isn’t in it). If the Canucks had won game 6, Luongo wins the Conn Smyth. Amazing how two losses after an excellent playoff run spurs this sort of discussion.

If you want to say that Schneider can play as well, great. We can debate that. I don’t agree, but I respect that angle. But this “luongo can’t win” garbage is BS.

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by Canuckles on Jun 17, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

The point was

that If Schneider can do a job that is comparable to Luongo’s, then the 4 million extra money can be put to improve the team.

Los Angeles, CA

by AttilaS on Jun 17, 2011 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

i think

that the point is Schneider can’t do a comparable job to luongo’s, at least not yet. Don’t get yer panties in a knot, I’m not dissing GJ, just saying he’s not there yet.

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by Twitchy2010 on Jun 18, 2011 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

That is

one huge if.

I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
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by Smoboy41 on Jun 19, 2011 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't forget too

Even with having the BEST goalie in the league, their D all built a hug wall around him every time, making it impossible to get a shot. Thomas had his own little gated community going on in there

by canuckgirl on Jun 18, 2011 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Haha.. analized.

 Ouch. But, so fitting when you’re refering to local “fans” and their opinions on Luongo.

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by Vancouverguy on Jun 17, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

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