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Game 2 Report Card ; Sad Songs Say So Much

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I guess they sure will be "suffering enough" in Northern California hockey circles to be writing it all down.  Ben Eager and his Sad Songs tonight sure did say so much.  They said that if the man would just shut up and play, he would be a player we might be scared of in this series.

But his antics were the main reason his team was out of it.  Keep taking the dumb penalties Benny ( does that make Clowe one of the Jets?) .  The comments in the post game interviews were pretty funny.  I don't really think Mr. Bieksa much cares what you think of him Mr. Eager.  You cost your team a game tonight, and your coach says you are in the next one.  Keep it up, and hockey fans everywhere will start calling you Ogie Ogglethorpe.

It is just fine with this Canuck fan if the San Jose coach wants this guy in the line up.  Though maybe the coach should wait until the NHL discipline office gets done with him first.  Oh yeah, the Canucks still outhit the supposed bigger team 43 to 35, and had 10 takeaways to only 4 for the "desperate" team.

ESPN    

NHL (there are a bunch of highlights there)    

Sean's recap

Star-divide

 

With all the talk, boasting of hitting more, and tear filled eyes while muttering about the calls, the San Jose Sharks continue to totally ignore one absolute certainty that is making the biggest impact on this series. The Vancouver Canucks are just faster than the team from San Jose.  All this talk of the Sharks just needing to be in quicker on the defenders, or just having to hit them more, was just that, talk.  They tried.  They got burned.  Next game plan for Friday guys?


Tough for gingers, those Twins huh? ;


It seems the hue and cry that was in the air after the series versus the Preds should be just about done by now.  The Sedins are back to driving the bus.  Tonight, Daniel showed that a little thing like a possible suspendible offense, running him from behind, is not going to work either.

How did Henrik Sedin do tonight?  Well, in 31 shifts and 19:27 TOI ( 4:59 PP ), he accumulated 3 assists, mostly of the Sedinery variety.  A +1, with 2 shots on, and 2 missed, as well as 1 takeaway.  He went 5 for 21 in the circle, but that was not as bad as it looked, because the team won back a lot of those pucks.  Joe Pavelski was a big part of that tonight as well, going 15 of 24 in that self same circle. 9.3/10.

Daniel Sedin?  Well, for me, bouncing right back up after being run from behind by Eager may have meant his team only got a minor power play instead of the five minute variety, but I loved it.  It does not mean I do not think that should be a suspension of maybe a game ( which I am torn about. Eager does more for our team when he is on the ice! ), but its good to see a guy pop right back up.  He made them pay in other ways anyhow.  In 29 shifts and 21:02 TOI ( 5:26 PP ), Daniel had 2 goals.  He was a +1 with 4 shots.  He had a takeaway. No way in hell I am blaming him for that weak call on him for cross checking Dany Heatley.  Might be time for the Sharks to stop whining about "embellishment" though.  9.6/10.

Alexandre Burrows just works hard every night.  Sometimes he gets on the score sheet for it, sometimes no. But he just leaves it on the ice most every night.  You cannot complain about that!  Tonight, in 26 shifts and 18:19 TOI ( 2:24 PP / 1:25 PK ), Mr Everything had 1 assist and was a +2.  He had 5 shots on net, missing one more.  1 takeaway as well.  But it was his team high 8 hits that gave the Twins room and helped him make an impact.  9/10.


Ryan Kesler is STILL a Badass ;


So, in a game where the Canucks put up a touchdown, our leading playoff scorer Ryan Kesler, is kept off the score sheet.  It was not for lack of trying.  In his 32 shifts and 20:55 TOI ( 5:18 PP / 1:40 PK ), he finished a +1. His 3 shots on net were dangerous, as were the 2 others that missed, for that matter!  He was marked down for 3 hits, but it was his 18 of 23 draws that was pretty impressive too.  A sub 9 mark to give him something to shoot for...8.7/10.

Tonight, it was his line mates that helped out. Chris Higgins, for instance. He is just a smart hockey player. The play on Bieksa's goal, where the cameras caught him at the bench until the Sharks guys went off ( and where he went to his blue line, took the break out pass and fed a streaking Bieksa perfectly ) was wicked smart.  In 26 shifts and 14:23 TOI (2:16 PP ), he certainly filled up the score sheet. 1 goal, 2 assists, and a +2. 2 shots, 1 missed, and 1 blocked. 3 hits and 2 takeaways, in addition to winning the 2 draws he took, is good enough for me. 9.8/10.

Mason Raymond seems to be getting better every game as well.  In 26 shifts and 15:05 TOI ( 2:42 PP / :13 PK ), he had a goal and an assist, was a +2, and used his speed to keep defenders chasing all night. 2 shots, and 2 hits fill up his tally nicely. 9.2/10.


Damn, this third line kicks ass! ;


Maxim Lapierre is not Manny Malhotra.  He is quickly getting almost as much love from the Canuck faithful though.  No matter what Ryane Clowe says!  In 23 shifts and 15:12 TOI ( :41 PP ) He had no points and a +1.  6 of 14 in the circle.  1 shot, and missed 1.  Blocked 1, and 2 hits, plus 1 takeaway is not the most impressive line.  a 10 minute penalty in the last 10 seconds was actually a good thing though, standing up to Eager's douchebaggery. Maxim's game was all about the pressure his line put on all night, even without results.  They were mostly in the SJ end this evening. 9.1/10.

Raffi Torres is fast becoming the playoff performer we heard he was in '06.  Tonight, our very own Raging Bull had another productive night. In his 25 shifts and 14:46 TOI ( :41 PP ), Raffi scored a goal.  He was a +1.  His 3 shots were matched by 3 misses, but he also had a takeaway and 3 hits ( and made defenders get rid of the puck quicker out of fear all night )  His penalty was a roughing one, and eager took one back, so let's not blame him for that. Should get a thank you card instead! It's Eager. 9.15/10.

Jannik Hansen came into the Canuck line up in the playoffs against Dallas in '07, so he knows what its all about.  His skill gets questioned occasionally from the outside, but no one can question Beaker's will.  In 24 shifts and 14:39 TOI ( :26 PP / :28 PK ), he had an assist, was a +1, with 1 shot and 1 missed. He had 3 hits, and his 10 minute penalty was another of those last second variety, where it was more about standing up to attempted bullying, rather than hurting the team. 9.15/10.


Did I see a 4th line in the 3rd period? ;


Maybe it was partially the score.  I think it was just as much the fact that the Moose Line was able to handle the extra work.  Hell, I saw them out versus the Thornton line in the 3rd period!  I know part of that was the score, but lets not belittle it.  Cody Hodgson's line had a good night, even if they were all a -1 each. The rookie centre had 12 shifts and 6:43 TOI. ( 1:31 PP...late ) He had 1 shot, blocked 1, and went 5 for 8 in the circle.  Every day, he gets a little better. 8.75/10.

Victor Oreskovich was also a -1 in his 13 shifts and 8:36 TOI ( 1:46 of garbage PP time ), he was credited with 1 shot and 1 hit. That does not tell the whole story.  The 4th line pressed their counterparts hard. Wrecker's speed showed on numerous shifts, forcing the Shark defenders into mistakes. 8.74/10.

Jeff Tambellini did not score a goal. He did not make a breakaway saving speed rush like his last game. But in 11 shifts and 7:14 TOI ( 1:31 late PP ), he had 2 hits and a takeaway. Their line all got -1 each because Eager got a late goal, but that minor lapse should not keep him out of the line up again. 8.75/10.


Blue line scoring?  Damn Skippy ;


Tonight's star was Kevin Bieksa, obviously.  Tonight, Juice played 23 shifts and 18:55 TOI ( 2:16 Pp / 1:32 PK ). Other guys played more.  Helluva impact though. He had a Gordie Howe Hat Trick.  A +2, a goal, an assist, and a fight he did not go looking for, but sure finished.  1 shot on goal ( ahhh, the ol' 100% shooting %! ), 1 block, 5 hits, and a takeaway filled his score sheet.  His goal was awesome, he is awesome, and I don't care if others got more points. He gets a 10/10 from me for his whole game.  Maybe its an easy score.  Don't care!

His partner Dan Hamhuis is just as important to Juice's success.  In 29 shifts and 20:12 TOI ( 2:37 PP / 1:25 PK ), Dan had 3 assists, and was a +2.  2 shots on net, 2 missed, and 4 hits, along with his steady and smart, most the time, play in his own end. 9.25/10.

The big minute guy tonight was Alexander Edler. Tonight, he had 30 shifts and 24:13 TOI ( 5:08 PP / :21 PK ), and finished a -1 with an assist. 5 shots on net, none missed.  2 blocks, 2 hits, 1 takeaway, and a team high 3 giveaways.8.5/10.

His partner Sami Salo did not put in as much time on his 29 shifts. 18:25 TOI ( 2:19 PP / :28 PK ) An even, with 2 shots, a  block and a giveaway.  I did not notice Sami much tonight. I guess that is a good thing right? 8.51/10.

Good old Christian Ehrhoff. He gets guff sometimes for his play in his own end, but man, what a play on the Torres goal.  He was mainly with Rome again tonight, though some of his 29 shifts and 22:54 TOI was spent with Edler ( mainly on the power play, and just as a power play would end.  He has 6:08 on the PP! ).  1 assist and a +1, with 2 shots, 1 block, and 2 hits. 9/10.

Aaron Rome is not known for his offense. But his goal tonight was a smart play down low, reading the play, going to the right spot, and making his chance count.  In 22 shifts and 15:21 TOI ( 1:20 PP ), he had that goal, was a +2. Scored on his only shot, but missed another. He had 2 blocks and 3 hits, but his early minor did cost a goal. 8.99/10.


Are we really going to view EVERY goal against through a microscope? ;


Roberto Luongo.  Lets see, he had to make less huge saves than the guy at the other end.  He made some good ones when it was needed.  The first goal was a nice move by Couture on a solid power play rush.  The second was one of those scrambley ones. Perhaps he could have gotten his glove on it faster.  The third was, to me, goalie interference, but I honestly think the refs did not care that much at that point. His defenders could have did better at boxing out Eager.  8.5/10.


Is that the best the Sharks have got?  They could have very well scored on an Eager shot off the post early, and maybe the game has a different slant with an early 2-0 lead on the road.  But I honestly think it would not have mattered.  I will say that the Sharks seem like they have not learned enough, or are just not disciplined enough, to go to the Stanley Cup Finals.

A few examples? Well, Eager obviously, calling Bieksa a "phony" for not just standing there and letting Marleau punch him in the yap.  Eager again, for what may just get him suspended tomorrow, a run at Daniel Sedin in which he said he was going to do it, and then did it.  Oh, that was Daniel's fault for turning for a puck there.  The Clowe comments about Lapierre, calling him a "coward" for shaking the gloves and not dropping them, while forgetting to mention it was selfish of him to even try to fight there, are a bit more understandable, though still sounded like an excuse to deflect from the fact that the guy that vowed to be a badass had 5 hits, yes, but only 1 shot and a -1.

Through it all, the Canucks just kept skating and ignoring that noise. Its something they have talked about doing, and have done, all season long.  If the Sharks don't get more mature, they will be out of the playoffs pretty quick.  Game 3 should be interesting, to see how they play, if nothing else.  Its definitely not over. But the Sharks need to STFU and just play the game.

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by Kent Basky on May 19, 2011 7:09 AM PDT reply actions  

Two comments.

1- Eager isn’t going to get suspended. Which probably benefits the Canucks.

2- Where the hell has this Chris Higgins been the last few seasons?

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by Smoboy41 on May 19, 2011 7:10 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Maybe he has been waiting for some good linemates? He was doing pretty well in Florida this year before we picked him up.

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on May 19, 2011 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Florida?

The NHL equivalent of a black hole.

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by Smoboy41 on May 19, 2011 9:45 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I thought it was

the NHL equivalent of a farm team…

… for the Vancouver Canucks.

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by SteveNux on May 19, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's definitely been used differently

This is either lightning in a bottle or a solid bet on Vancouver’s part.

Some Higgy background: http://www.nucksmisconduct.com/2011/2/28/2021688/so-who-exactly-is-chris-higgins

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by Yankee Canuck on May 19, 2011 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Best trade deadline day moves ever?

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on May 19, 2011 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Higgins + Lappiere > Andrew Alberts

by marcness52 on May 19, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

No kidding

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on May 19, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Alberts was a good pickup because they needed someone who could battle in the crease against someone like BiFuglien.

Our guys just weren’t big or strong enough before.

Without a guy like that to worry about, Alberts isn’t really needed.

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by SteveNux on May 19, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

He didn't exactly

Do that last year though

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on May 19, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

took him a little while to be acclimated to our system, but after that he was solid

we just have so much depth now

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by SteveNux on May 19, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m talking immediate impact though in the year picked up

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on May 19, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Based on my recall, as poor as it may be, I’m pretty sure it was a solid bet. My initial reaction on the acquisition was shock that someone had given him up. He has had a rep for moving the puck in the right direction and working hard, whether or not the stat lines have borne that out is another issue…

Suffice to say that with good linemates and a solid system to play he’s been excellent, but he probably would have been similarly good in Tampa, SJ, Chicago or Detroit…

by rsm on May 19, 2011 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that was my though at the time too

Although I have to say I am very impressed by the Lapierre pickup. I had my doubts about it at first – but he has done a remarkable job. Don’t know if it’s the leadership on the team or not, but he’s turned off the stupid part of his game, and left on the awesome part

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on May 19, 2011 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yup. It’s more a system thing than anything. Higgins really isn’t capable of single-handedly taking over games, so he relies on his teammates. Playing in Florida really doesn’t help a player of that skill set.

AV putting him with MayRay/Kes and playing with some speed has really really helped his game.

Let’s hope we can get him back too for next season. He supplants Sammy’s place in the line up just fine, and will have to provide us with the same production though.

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by Vancouverguy on May 19, 2011 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sammy

Will be back next year as well. Assuming he doesn’t retire or something

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on May 19, 2011 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I mean, Higgy can take over for Sammy once he leaves us next season. It’s imperative that we keep Higgy then.

Also, it really gives us cover as a potential top-6 option, who can play the 3rd line role just fine.

Plus, how awesome is sitting on the bench, and unleashing that outlet pass. So sweet.

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by Vancouverguy on May 19, 2011 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I mean, Higgy can take over for Sammy once he leaves us next season. It’s imperative that we keep Higgy then.

Also, it really gives us cover as a potential top-6 option, who can play the 3rd line role just fine.

Plus, how awesome is sitting on the bench, and unleashing that outlet pass. So sweet.

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by Vancouverguy on May 19, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I mean, Higgy can take over for Sammy once he leaves us next season. It’s imperative that we keep Higgy then.

Also, it really gives us cover as a potential top-6 option, who can play the 3rd line role just fine.

Plus, how awesome is sitting on the bench, and unleashing that outlet pass. So sweet.

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by Vancouverguy on May 19, 2011 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also...Chris Higgins says hello

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by Yankee Canuck on May 19, 2011 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

it's a pretty epic

beard. It isn’t Freakishly Intimidating like Shea Weber’s, but it’s sort of like a fantasy hero beard

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by Canuckles on May 19, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Earth to Eager:

When you’re as valuable to your team as, say, Iginla is to his, Bieksa will be happy to fight you. Until then…?

Flying that Nerd Flag high!

by Thursday on May 19, 2011 7:45 AM PDT reply actions  

Maxim's face

after Clowe took a penalty was priceless. That should warrant a 9.5 at least.

Bieksa reminds me of Han Solo, except without the charm...or the Wookie at his side, unless you count Alberts.

by westy99 on May 19, 2011 7:47 AM PDT reply actions  

I was hoping to find video of that

I want to make a gif that says “ho ho ho vous mad?”

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by Pseuccubus on May 19, 2011 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Them be

The cuhrazy eyes

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on May 19, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I loved his reaction here

You can tell he’s chirping in french (or with an accent) and he bites his lip in a funny way, it amused me.

by Shand on May 19, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

ive

since we picked him up ive been waiting to see him make that face, watched his last year and loved it. how can you not hate someone when they are laughing and smiling in your face? love it

by free_raffi on May 19, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like it.

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by kesrows on May 19, 2011 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

ET

VOILA

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by Chuckles Canuckles on May 19, 2011 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup, he be a handsome Frenchie! Very cute!

by sunshine and lollipops on May 20, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

TU EST FACHE

CLOWE?

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by Chuckles Canuckles on May 19, 2011 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was embellishing.

by marcness52 on May 19, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

two minutes for

inappropriate smiling

Bieksa reminds me of Han Solo, except without the charm...or the Wookie at his side, unless you count Alberts.

by westy99 on May 19, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

rumblings on Twitter

some people saying they’re getting sportsnet alerts that Eager will not be suspended

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by Kent Basky on May 19, 2011 8:34 AM PDT reply actions  

Hopefully

He plays some more next game

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on May 19, 2011 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Marvelous

I hope he gets 15 minutes on Friday.

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by Jevant on May 19, 2011 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

ben eager is clearly a moron, but i still would have thought he could be able to do basic subtraction. for example 7-3=4.

by eaglesinmd on May 19, 2011 8:35 AM PDT reply actions  

Sedinery Rox

I do miss CBC HNIC broadcasts, cuz here in Dallas-FtWorth, NBC/Verses flatout sucks. But for the first time watching a Verses ‘cast, I chuckled when in last night’s game the network recapped an amazing bit of Sedinery video using an overlay of the Harlem Globetrotters theme. If I don’t post this right, I’ll include the url fin an immediate followup reply.

Globetrotting all over the SJ Sharks

by Nux4Ever on May 19, 2011 8:46 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Yes, yes it does

And welcome to my city.

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by TXCanucklehead on May 19, 2011 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Huh.

Didn’t know you lived here. Cool. What part of DFW in particular?

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by TXCanucklehead on May 19, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Never has there been a more appropriate 10/10.

by Canuckelhead on May 19, 2011 9:00 AM PDT reply actions  

All MVI poems get a rec from me! LOVE IT!

by sunshine and lollipops on May 19, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

rec’d every time! You rule!

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by Sean Zandberg on May 19, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

VERY HAPPY

eager not suspended
hopefully mclellan continues to give him lots of shifts in the third period
because
you know
san jose has been such a strong third period team all playoffs…

by Beantown Canuck on May 19, 2011 9:30 AM PDT reply actions  

Hear hear!

People die people die people die people die go ahead sleep tight in your beds remember what the wise man said

by Smoboy41 on May 19, 2011 9:48 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Blackhawk fans still love us

http://www.secondcityhockey.com/2011/5/19/2179303/a-prayer

Bieksa reminds me of Han Solo, except without the charm...or the Wookie at his side, unless you count Alberts.

by westy99 on May 19, 2011 9:49 AM PDT reply actions  

Who cares?

If some of their fans need a demon to point at, so be it. They can join their buddies behind the Edmonton, Minnesota, Colorado and Calgary emblems. Get in line, enjoy the wait.

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by Yankee Canuck on May 19, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

It warms me...

that they feel the pain we had two years in a row

Bieksa reminds me of Han Solo, except without the charm...or the Wookie at his side, unless you count Alberts.

by westy99 on May 19, 2011 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Priceless

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by Yankee Canuck on May 19, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yo Pigeons, let me show you what time it is! Get Geezy, get geezy, are you with me? Get Geezy!

by Mica Van Isle on May 19, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

is that Jilian? "keep going, don't quit on me now."

actually it’s a picture of the blackhawk fans reacting to some good news today. Corey Crawford was signed for three years at $2.5 to 2.6 million. I thought for sure with his playoff, (and regular season), performance he’d be over $3 to $4 mil. now we can get a true #2 center and have enough money to try and resign Eager.

I was afraid Philly or Washington would try toadd him to their goalie harems.

by wardrums on May 19, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good signing for Chicago. How much longer is Huet on your books?

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by Yankee Canuck on May 19, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I believe one more season,

But wirtz has been eating that contract so it didn’t effect the Cap. Just took about $6mill a year out of the Hawks coffer"s. As a fan, that was greatly appreciated. I still don’t think Huet was that bad a goalie – just not worth $6 mill.

by wardrums on May 19, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, one of those bad contract deals. What can you do (except get him together with Redden, Souray and maybe Gomez soon and have a sad, long facepalm).

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by Yankee Canuck on May 19, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

This image is not distasteful. It is simply an ape with big nuts. It is not edited.

The pictures of the flasher at the game the other night also are not distasteful, but they get edited. We live in a funny world. A backwards, confused, funny world.

by NS_Cix on May 19, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

That poor ape. He has a large load to carry.

by sunshine and lollipops on May 20, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just love this!!!

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by PensFanInDenver on May 19, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

SCH

I love it, keep it coming.

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by thegreek on May 19, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

incredibly

butthurt

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by Chuckles Canuckles on May 19, 2011 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd only

be worried if they started to cheer for us.

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by AttilaS on May 19, 2011 10:02 AM PDT reply actions  

yeouch
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Media Release: Samuelsson underwent successful surgery to repair his adductor tendon and sports hernia.

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by Semi_Colon on May 19, 2011 11:43 AM PDT reply actions  

ohhhhhhhh

no more sammy this playoffs

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by Canuckles on May 19, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

as good as the canucks are

I’d hate to think about what Maholtra and Samuelson would add to this team. Actually, if you want to know the truth, your big guns are your big guns – there output is expected. There are 4 players that have really risen to the occaision for the nucks – Lapierre, Torres, Hansen and Higgins. They’ve been very noticeable on the ice.

by wardrums on May 19, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, Bieksa/Hamhuis with some points. That’s been helpful.

Oh and Romer scoring a goal. That’s ALWAYS a bonus.

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by Vancouverguy on May 19, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Salo

The quiet man. Made the blue line just work better. Very underrated!

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by vancitydan on May 19, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was refering to notice-able players, and Salo’s lack of points make him un-noticeable to most casuals.

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by Vancouverguy on May 19, 2011 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Grinders

I agree with the casual comment, but as we all know you don’t have to score points to be an effective hockey player. It just seems to me that the 4 players I’ve mentioned are spending a lot of time in the opposition’s zone – and making their presence “Felt.”

I would consider most of your d-men in the big gun category. Don’t know much about Romer. Salo is very solid.

Should be an interesting game tonight. Can Lu keep the wolves at bay when San Jose launches their desperate assualt in the first period? That’s a big key in my estimation.

by wardrums on May 20, 2011 6:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve loved our Ds. I agree that most of them are very good, almost excellent players, but none have reached the elite status. (Eddy’s close though!)

Honestly, it’s probably the BEST thing that we don’t notice Romer. Any points or goals he gets is gravy.

Salo doesn’t use his booming shot much any more, but he’s very good as a shutdown guy too. Bieksa/Hamhuis deserves is as good a shut down pair as any, well… maybe not Keith/Seabs or Weber/Suter good, but certainly one of the top shutdown pairs in the league. Eddy and then Ehrhoff are both point producers.

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by Vancouverguy on May 20, 2011 7:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Edler

I’ve had Edler on and off my Fantasy team for the last two years. Always expected him to do a little more offensively that he did.

I think it was Edler who sprung Kesler on the first goal in Game 7 against the hawks. He got the puck with his back to the play in the middle of his zone. He turned around and fired a pass to 17 while we changed lines. It was an incredibly intelligent play. A lot of times the d-man will just turn casually around or head behind his net. Of course Kesler undressed Keith with a move, (You don’t see too many players get around Keith, although he was on his off side), and Public Enemy #1 basically had a tap in – but Edler clearly made it all happen.

by wardrums on May 20, 2011 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I remember seeing Salo just rip a shot on Wednesday night, but it went wide. I was so happy seeing the speed in his shot though, I thought he might be getting his shot going again soon. Can’t remember what period it was them. I was drunk with joy. Not with vodka because it’s too expensive at the game.

by sunshine and lollipops on May 20, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sad for Samuelsson

he has not looked right most of this season.

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by thegreek on May 20, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

hey anyone think

schneids starts on sunday? Early games + roberto luongo = not often good for luongo’s health and GAA

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by Twitchy2010 on May 19, 2011 11:51 AM PDT reply actions  

mayyyyybe

If we win Friday

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by Semi_Colon on May 19, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I

dont think they will start sneids.. theres the whole dont fix something that isnt broken and lu looks motivated and focused, i wouldnt want to throw a wrench in that

by free_raffi on May 19, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

but if we start lu

history says we’ll be breaking something that isn’t broken, as opposed to fixing it… just saying…

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by Twitchy2010 on May 19, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not a bad reasoning,

but if we put Schneider in, and we lose, that will look like a major mistake. On the other hand, if he plays and we win, AV is a genious.

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by AttilaS on May 19, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

but

history is just that history, history said we wouldnt beat the hawks, and we wouldnt get past the second round. idk i see where you are coming from i just think we should keep lu in his groove. but who knows maybe it would be a good think to keep him fresh? for a longer run…but sneids played a bunch this year to keep lu fresh for this time of year

by free_raffi on May 19, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

not a chance

unless lou gets absolutely bombed in game 3.

by eades2000 on May 19, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're joking right?

Or at the very least knowingly throwing out a crazy theory just for arguments sake.

by Canuckelhead on May 19, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

What about

Starting Lack?

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by Canuckles on May 19, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great idea!

That would send an even greater “we think you suck” message to the sharks.

by Canuckelhead on May 19, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or

should we just go all the way and start Weiman?

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by Canuckles on May 19, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

so...

…your saying you don’t think so then? no need to get stabby…

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by Twitchy2010 on May 19, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha

Got me. Do you really think they might start Schneider though?

by Canuckelhead on May 19, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

so i got banned from FtF

apparently i commented saying i wanted one of the sharks to get hurt.. what i actually said was heatley dove and eager thru a very dirty hit with lots of intent behind it, with a few fucks in there. then i said i hope raffi catches couture behind the net….if asking for a big hit automatically means asking for an injury theres something wrong with hockey nowadays oh and i also pointed out that all the hate the canucks get for being divers and dirty players is unwarranted cause clearly other teams are guilty of it to

by free_raffi on May 19, 2011 1:57 PM PDT reply actions  

To be fair

It would suck to be a Sharks fan right this second. I can understand why it wouldn’t take much to get ban a Canucks fan.

by Canuckelhead on May 19, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

im sure it came across a bit rude

but after weeks of having to hear about the canucks and their diving/embellishment and dirty play, and a few angry beers, not to mention a cheap shot on dsedin, pushed me over the edge and i had to let them know that they are not saints and neither are any of the other teams in the nhl.. and a cheap shot on a star player deserves some repercussion ie a big hit on couture since hes the only one showing up…and that kid is good btw

by free_raffi on May 19, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw what you were posting there. Not cool. I’ve banned people for less. Just being blunt.

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by Sean Zandberg on May 19, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

meh

i re read it a couple times, cant find it now and dont feel like digging. i get the timing might have been off and my choice of language, but the points were valid imo and have been discussed since. its not like i showed up after the 7-3 destruction, it was when the game was still in reach for the sharks

by free_raffi on May 19, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

You have to pick your spot. After an embarrassing loss is a bad place to start. If vancouver got crushed and we had clowns over here wanting to see Sedin destroyed, I’d unleash the banhammer on them too.

You can still go to Battle of Cali if you want to talk to Sharks fans.

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by Yankee Canuck on May 19, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

And

Laugh with Ducks and Kings fans!

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by Semi_Colon on May 19, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

it wasnt after the game tho..

it was almost right after the hit.. the game was still close at that point, they just didnt like hearing that their team was capable of “embellishment” and “cheap shots”. and i stand by what i said there, and i would still like to see raffi destroy someone, not injure them

by free_raffi on May 19, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, well even game threads get heated. I find it’s easier visiting a blog a day after a game, read the thread and chime in when you want. But to each their own, just don’t want you getting banned left and right!

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by Yankee Canuck on May 19, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

there

was no point where i wanted to get banned, and they really didnt have a constructive reply to what i said, which were valid points because theyve been brought up numerous times. so they banned me and continue to ignore the truth and preach shit like luongo dove when eager hit him.. i mean really? open you eyes shark fans!

by free_raffi on May 19, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

well dude

u just can’t go to another site and get combative with them…even if they’re wrong. You saw how we reacted to trolls like Shea Weber for President and others over here; if they viewed your comments as incendiary as we viewed his (even if your comments weren’t), yer likely to get some negative response… u just gotta let them live in their bubble of denial…or say your piece nicely and let them flame you for it. Or, risk the ban hammer. I’ve been banned from matchsticks and gasoline, but that was kind of on purpose. ;)

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by Twitchy2010 on May 19, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

denial

i see what your saying, it was a build up of weeks of fustration and some cold heini’s, im still reading what they are saying and its comical almost..denial is the perfect word for it. apparently everyone is trying to job the sharks, the nhl the referees and every hockey fan, along with the announcers, we embellish and play dirty… maybe i was watching a different game last night?

by free_raffi on May 19, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

...

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by Canuckles on May 19, 2011 2:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Cat fight on Twitter

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by Sean Zandberg on May 19, 2011 3:10 PM PDT reply actions  

lol

but you’d still pay to see them kiss and make up…

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by Twitchy2010 on May 19, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

How is saying you think the other coach is playing dirty

a conspiracy? This guy is seriously trying to rile up the storm of controversy for his ow… wait, MSM. Never mind…

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by Canuckles on May 19, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did you not read between the lines?

Obviously the Canucks have a bounty on poor innocent Eager’s head!

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by vancitydan on May 19, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh right haha

yeah ok “that’s it”

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by Canuckles on May 19, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Sharks also declined an opportunity to discuss Alexandre Burrows’ goal, Vancouver’s fourth, which the NHL has apparently acknowledged was a blown call due to Burrows being too deep in the goal crease.

Huh? Did I miss that report?

So don't get violent and don't get caught with your head down, the night she stole the moon.

by thelastjohnny on May 19, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think Mr. Sports reporter made that part up.

TEN DOWN, SIX TO GO

by Twin Terror on May 19, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

annnnd

I took care of that

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by Canuckles on May 19, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

My thoughts exactly.

Is there any truth to this? I don’t remember Burrows’ goal.. there were too many, but has anyone else seen this report?

by Shand on May 20, 2011 12:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have not heard the report.

I think it was Higgins goal. The second unit power play one. He was in front screening, and as the goalie backed up, the defender and he sort of moved into the paint.

There was not a lot of contact, if any. But it is the goalie’s ice, and that has been called before.

We might have caught a break there, but I don’t know. I have seen that not called as many times the other way as well.

They did not call it this time anyhow!

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by vancitydan on May 20, 2011 1:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

There was no contact with Niemi, but yeah, Burrows was way deep on that.

Is that a disallowable goal then?

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by jwolf0 on May 20, 2011 5:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

ref discretion

I think it went from an absolute to discretion after the Hull goal vs Buffalo

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by vancitydan on May 20, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love it

When story titles have absolutely nothing to do with the actual story

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on May 19, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Should have been titled

“Canucks coach accuses Sharks of letting goons loose” or something. But that’s actually kind of close to the truth, so we wouldn’t want to write that!

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on May 19, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love AV. When asked about Eager calling Bieksa a phony?

“Hordichuck asked him many, many times last year and he always turned it down. Rypien is smaller, and outweighed by 40-45 pounds, and Eager would not take him up on it either ( paraphrase )…a “SO THERE” to Mr Eager.

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by vancitydan on May 19, 2011 4:31 PM PDT reply actions  

cough.

So don't get violent and don't get caught with your head down, the night she stole the moon.

by thelastjohnny on May 19, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I believe AV

was referring to the playoffs last year.

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by vancitydan on May 19, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay, didn’t know the complete context of the quote.

So don't get violent and don't get caught with your head down, the night she stole the moon.

by thelastjohnny on May 19, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder what these Post-game articles look like after you guys lose a game because this one seemed too cocky for just a 2-0 lead. Reading this makes me feel like the game was over before it started when in actuality, it was a pretty close game until Eager lost his mind. If let’s say the refs caught one of the 2 high sticks they missed on you guys or Couture gets off the ice earlier instead of gliding to the farthest point on the bench or the Burrows goal gets recalled, then the game is completely different. The score got out of control quick, but it could have gone the other way and I don’t get the sense of acknowledgement of that in this article. And yes, Ben Eager is a douchebag.

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by pooponastick on May 19, 2011 4:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Smelling a lot of “if” coming off of this post.. If the referees caught some of the penalties against the Sharks that they missed, if Eager got the 5 minutes he deserved, it could have been even worse than it was.

It was close for a little while, and then it was a dominant performance. This is an accurate article.

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by ShiftySC on May 19, 2011 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I used a bunch of "or"s, not "and"s

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by pooponastick on May 19, 2011 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

First of all, if you’re really curious, you can go to game 4, 5 and 6 post-games of the chi series.

I think the swag in this post is a response to Eager’s shit. The comments could be entirely negative and whiney, but a lot of people here decided to instead focus on the positives. Personally, I didn’t pay super close attention to the game, but San Jose’s only two meaningful goals came on the power play (where they’ve definitely outperformed the Canucks’ PK) and their only even-strength goal was against the Canucks 4th line in garbage minutes. In a close game, they wouldn’t have been out there.

I can’t find a link to the scoring chances so if someone could help me out with this stat, what did they look like after two periods? I think that may say a lot about the game before it was blown open in the third.

So don't get violent and don't get caught with your head down, the night she stole the moon.

by thelastjohnny on May 19, 2011 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its not on Copper & Blue so idk

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by pooponastick on May 19, 2011 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t see a post for it but I found this tweet by Cam Charron:

The chances in the third period, FWIW, were 8-2 Vancouver, giving them a 25-14 advantage on the game.

So that’d be 17-12 after two for the Canucks. I’d still like to see what it is at even strength, though.

So don't get violent and don't get caught with your head down, the night she stole the moon.

by thelastjohnny on May 19, 2011 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

No surprise for the 3rd period, and I thought Van out chanced the Sharks in the 1st 2 periods before I posted, but I’d like to see how much of that was due to PPs or not.

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by pooponastick on May 19, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Most of us

Acknowledge that the PK sucks, and that the faceoffs suck. But after a game like that it’s hard not to just focus on the positives. Even in the second period when it was still 2-2 you guys only got like 2 shots the whole time. Obviously things could have gone differently, but the “what if” game is one of my least favourite games to play

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by Semi_Colon on May 19, 2011 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

It wasn’t that the post focused on the positives, but how it was expressed. Example:

All this talk of the Sharks just needing to be in quicker on the defenders, or just having to hit them more, was just that, talk. They tried. They got burned. Next game plan for Friday guys?
Just like how it ended there, like “what are you going to do now? you got nothing on us!” type of cocky mentality. And I only play the “what if” game because those are all should have happened, not like “what if the puck bounced just right a few inches on that one play” type of what if.

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by pooponastick on May 19, 2011 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, then that Heatley penalty + goal shouldn’t have happened either because he fell on his own. This is what I mean by the what if game being dangerous – it goes both ways most of the time. I agree that some calls were missed on you, but a couple were missed/miscalled on us as well.

Some people have different writing styles, maybe he went too far – but Dan is correct that they tried and got burned, and didn’t do what they said they were going to do. I’ve used that exact same line “was just talk” about this Canucks team, as recently as the first round, when they didn’t do what they said they were going to do.

And honestly – if you want to talk about being cocky, there were many many posts at FTF basically guaranteeing a win in the first game, then the second game, because your depth was too much for us, and we played weak opposition/were from a weak division and our stats were inflated.

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"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on May 19, 2011 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe in the comments section, but I didn’t see anything cocky in the posts, unless you think a writer picking his team to win in 6 or 7 games is cocky. At FTF, I see a summary of the game and then some analysis usually using statistics, but I’ll apologize or take back my words if you read something more cocky (cockier?) than this post. Also I think the difference between the Heatley call and the ones I mentioned is that there was a stick pressed against his back and while I also think he fell, its not as black and white as a high stick cut under Thornton’s eye or 2 feet in the crease that the NHL admitted should have been disallowed. But that’s not the real point, the real point is that it was a closer game than the tone of this post indicated, but I do respect Dan as a writer and he brings a good view to the game.

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by pooponastick on May 19, 2011 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I brought this up earlier and didn’t get a response:

2 feet in the crease that the NHL admitted should have been disallowed.

Did I not get this memo? Who said this?

So don't get violent and don't get caught with your head down, the night she stole the moon.

by thelastjohnny on May 19, 2011 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah saw that

Since Ratto is a “reporter” I trust him, but not that much hahaha I just assumed since you posted it that it was true

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by pooponastick on May 19, 2011 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just rewatched the replay and while Burrows was in the crease, there wasn’t any contact made with him and Niemi. You should be careful throwing the “homer” tag around if you’re going to take what only one reporter has said (and none have repeated) as gospel.

So don't get violent and don't get caught with your head down, the night she stole the moon.

by thelastjohnny on May 19, 2011 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey you posted it not me, I just repeated it. Maybe he was the only one who mentioned it since he said the Sharks declined to talk to the league about it and the past 24 hours have been filled with news. But yeah, if saying that one thing makes everything I said invalid in your eyes than that’s fine by me.

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by pooponastick on May 19, 2011 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I never posted it, not put this on me! I was continually questioning its veracity. It doesn’t automatically negate everything you say, but it might make you less credible in my eyes. It’s not that big a deal, though.

So don't get violent and don't get caught with your head down, the night she stole the moon.

by thelastjohnny on May 20, 2011 6:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dan's posts

Tend to be pretty Canuck favourable. Sean/Yankee’s reviews are “less biased” I guess

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on May 19, 2011 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn it! I have to be MORE critical now? Shee’it.

OK, I’ll try. Sometimes its tough to say they played bad when they did not.

It was 7-3 right? Only a few chances after the first? LOL

Nuck’s Misconduct Bishop, 1st United Church of Luongod Canucks coach Alain Vigneault claimed he knew exactly what Rome was doing on his goal even if the player himself didn't. "That was a set play," winked Vigneault. 5/19/11

by vancitydan on May 19, 2011 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not a bad thing Dan!

And I don’t think you have to be more critical – I think pooponastick was just saying you slipped into gloating a little bit. Which is somewhat understandable after a win like that.

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on May 19, 2011 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know

I saw that when I wrote it then.

But, it seemed apropos, so I went with it. Probably was a bit of gloating.

In all seriousness though, I do think that, until shown otherwise, we should assume the Canucks are just the faster team and go from there.

It does kill.

Here’s hoping they give me every opportunity to be smug tomorrow as well! ( It is in our banner! )

Nuck’s Misconduct Bishop, 1st United Church of Luongod Canucks coach Alain Vigneault claimed he knew exactly what Rome was doing on his goal even if the player himself didn't. "That was a set play," winked Vigneault. 5/19/11

by vancitydan on May 19, 2011 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Umm, not more critical, but could you stop grading on the Edmonton Oilers curve?

I definitely think your grading scheme needs some adjustment, other than that I have really enjoyed your foray into a more critical look at player performance each game.

by rsm on May 19, 2011 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm open to suggestions.

I grade on a curve, basically. Don’t get too caught up in the numbers, but who has higher ones as forwards, and defensemen..and goalie of course.

However I can make the numbers work better, I am open to whatever can work.

Nuck’s Misconduct Bishop, 1st United Church of Luongod Canucks coach Alain Vigneault claimed he knew exactly what Rome was doing on his goal even if the player himself didn't. "That was a set play," winked Vigneault. 5/19/11

by vancitydan on May 19, 2011 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d probably drop the decimal points. If you want to get that detailed with the numbers just go to a 1-100 scale. Being a geek I’d go with a d6 1-6 scale, or if you’re extra geeky some other polyhedron of your choice. The numbers would have more range to them, but it would let you clearly show the at-a-glance high and lowlights a bit better.

Also if you’re grading on a curve (the classic school grades 0-100, but with pass at 60), most of the scores should be in the average 6-8 range with only a few at the top and a couple below the fail line. But enough pedantry. Your writeups are excellent and this is such a minor point.

by rsm on May 20, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks

I did mention it before. Basically, 8 is my give a shit, played hard line….more or less. Look at the rest of the guys from there, what they did or did not do…positive or negative brings you up and down from there.

So, maybe not as a teacher does it ( I am not a teacher, but I did stay at a Holiday Express last night ). But I try to, if you look at it, the best forwards get the highest, the best defenders.

The numbers are more to give an idea of how bad or good one was in relation to the other.

Scared me with the geek speak! The 1-100 thing, getting rid of the decimal point sounds better. Though, being a superstitious Canuck fan, one that has not let a razor near his face for a trim since Game 5 vs the Preds….I think I’ll stand pat…for now. I like the idea of 1-100 though. Can still get the same point across, maybe even better!

;-)

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by vancitydan on May 20, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Last time I checked 7-3 isn’t close unless we’re playing football.

by marcness52 on May 19, 2011 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

You 'bout got it

I am sure they can still do that, in their own minds. But if the Canucks D’ can continue to clear the puck the way they have this series, the big forecheck cannot compete.

The stuff in the neutral zone, maybe they can do something different to hit the Nucks blue line with speed.

But it did seem they got burned every time they tried to forecheck last game. They did it better, and there were times in the 1st where they did it best. But then the forwards would help out down low to break the pressure, and back to speed.

So, its no to provide offense, but I don’t think you can teach speed. The Canucks have been faster to pucks all series.

Sorry too much fandom got in there for your liking. It seemed a pretty accurate way to describe how the Sharks played.

Thanks for the feedback though poopy, appreciate it.

Nuck’s Misconduct Bishop, 1st United Church of Luongod Canucks coach Alain Vigneault claimed he knew exactly what Rome was doing on his goal even if the player himself didn't. "That was a set play," winked Vigneault. 5/19/11

by vancitydan on May 19, 2011 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I understand that you obviously right from the Canucks stand point

And your analysis wasn’t wrong by any means, just that it sounded like almost a taunting type of tone like (paraphrasing) “You can’t do anything, its all us. Don’t even try”. But I came here to see you’re reaction and that’s what I got. Its just isn’t what I’m used to from other blogs before (not that you’re the one and only who does it or anything).

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by pooponastick on May 19, 2011 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

nah. I think it’s just different views along the fandom spectrum.

Yank and Sean are both closer to the middle, and Dan is infinitely more optimistic. That’s the only difference, they are both certainly, no less fanatical about the Nucks.

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by Vancouverguy on May 19, 2011 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am a positive guy.

It was 7-3 though. I don’t think I “gloated” in a one goal win right? lol

Nuck’s Misconduct Bishop, 1st United Church of Luongod Canucks coach Alain Vigneault claimed he knew exactly what Rome was doing on his goal even if the player himself didn't. "That was a set play," winked Vigneault. 5/19/11

by vancitydan on May 19, 2011 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Swag man, it’s all about the swag. Remember the gloating we endured when the Maple Leafs went on their little run at the beginning of the season? Yeah, I think it’s okay to be a bit happy.

So don't get violent and don't get caught with your head down, the night she stole the moon.

by thelastjohnny on May 19, 2011 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha but Kessel will save them and Reimer for Vezina1

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by pooponastick on May 19, 2011 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s a Canucks blog site! What do you expect? “Thornton was a monster and we were lucky to get a win”

by marcness52 on May 19, 2011 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought the insightful line was.. ;-)

Eager could be scary to this series if he would just STFU and play.

Would not be Eager then though.

Nuck’s Misconduct Bishop, 1st United Church of Luongod Canucks coach Alain Vigneault claimed he knew exactly what Rome was doing on his goal even if the player himself didn't. "That was a set play," winked Vigneault. 5/19/11

by vancitydan on May 19, 2011 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Certainly not how he will ever play haha

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by pooponastick on May 19, 2011 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not to make a whole thing about it, honestly. Love the FTF guys so far.

But the idea of this Report Card post is what they did, more or less, not what they did not.

Big mistakes and whatnot, of course. A guy plays shitty, you point it out. But generally its more how they played. What they did. I tend to get more optimistic, as Semi put it, in wins instead of losses.

7-3 ones notwithstanding. Thing is with Eager, I would love him on this team. He can be our 4th liner any day. Not to slag the Sharks or anything, but this year in Vancity, its was what they told them all year long.

But if Benny was hear, he would be told to play smarter in that regard, or just don’t play.

But yeah, that shot is awesome. He was a 1st rounder at some point I think. Dude has skills. just the space between the ears needs some work.

Nuck’s Misconduct Bishop, 1st United Church of Luongod Canucks coach Alain Vigneault claimed he knew exactly what Rome was doing on his goal even if the player himself didn't. "That was a set play," winked Vigneault. 5/19/11

by vancitydan on May 19, 2011 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just want him to not be such a fuckin idiot

Great hands though. Just ‘cause you mentioned what he would be told if he were in Van, I don’t like how Alain basically said Todd McLellan was telling Eager to play dirty and intentionally hurt people. I’m sure Todd will tell him to use his brain.

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by pooponastick on May 19, 2011 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its sort of that.

We have Burrows and Kesler. They used to be some of the best trash talkers in the league. Bieksa too. It was pointed out to everybody on exit last year that acting like that lost them the series, with loss of focus and penalties.

It really is like seeing the same thing happen in reverse. I doubt T’mac would approve. I get where Todd was supporting his player with the “play like that without the penalties”, but that was a message to the rest of the room. At least he gave a shit, you know?

Alain said he must approve of it because of his post game comments, not that he would send a guy out to do that. I doubt he was tapping #55 on the shoulder and whispering “#22” in his ear.

just more gamesmanship. Same as the whining about calls. We get to stop that now, because Alain said nothing about Heater’s dive, and used Daniel’s almost decapitation as a humourous way to get his point across with the “embellishment” cooent.

I like it. Two coaches bringing their A game.

Nuck’s Misconduct Bishop, 1st United Church of Luongod Canucks coach Alain Vigneault claimed he knew exactly what Rome was doing on his goal even if the player himself didn't. "That was a set play," winked Vigneault. 5/19/11

by vancitydan on May 19, 2011 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah we have seen a wide range of Coaching battles these playoffs

From Terry Murray who wouldn’t shake our players hands and calling out Demers for a hit that he said was something like 10x worse than the Stoll hit on White that knocked him out a game to Mike Babcock who plays his own mental games and now Alain and TMac going at it a lot in these past 2 games. Although I don’t think TMac really says anything that fuels the fire the way other coaches have.

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by pooponastick on May 19, 2011 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well

I can see where AV is coming from there, with protecting Daniel Sedin and all. He did basically intimate that Tmac’s comments about Eager were tantamount to being OK with a deliberate attempt to injure.

Eager going nuts, with the TV visuals the shows can replay…so many of them, at the bench a couple times, in the box, running Lui, the hit itself on Daniel…its pretty touch for your coach to handle that except the way he did, by ignoring it and focussing on whatever positive ( the other parts of his game that did not result in 5 minors and 20 minutes ) he could.

Advantage AV though. Eager will have to be somewhat constrained in Game 3 at the least. You have to think the guy is on a short leash with the NHL, nevermind with his coach.

Dreger was on saying that he “narrowly” escaped suspension, and that the player and the team ( Tmac ) may have been warned about controlling themselves.

The guys in charge have to show they are in charge, you know? Eager doing his thing when Bettman, Campbell et al were there was not the best timing either!

Nuck’s Misconduct Bishop, 1st United Church of Luongod Canucks coach Alain Vigneault claimed he knew exactly what Rome was doing on his goal even if the player himself didn't. "That was a set play," winked Vigneault. 5/19/11

by vancitydan on May 19, 2011 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t see anything wrong with what TMac said. I would have hoped he said “Ben should stop that shit now” but he’s the type of coach that backs up his players unless there’s a lack of effort shown by a player. But he basically said “I liked how he battled but he can’t be taken bad penalties”. Honestly, I think Ben is too thick skulled to change his style of play. He’ll probably end up doing the same things as game 2 with the same borderline hits. Hope he doesn’t cost us a game tomorrow.

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by pooponastick on May 19, 2011 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have a very, very strong suspicion that people really shouldn’t be getting into the ‘missed penalties’ deabate with Vancouver considering the amount of outright abuse handed out to our top line that is never called. Sure you have your missed calls, but if we started looking at game tape for this year I don’t think the end result would be a happy one for most opponents of Vancouver. Feel free to prove my claim wrong by going over the game tapes and actually taking notes.

On a game specific note I can’t speak directly to events during game 2 as I missed it due to the wonder that is parent’s day at kindergarten, but judging by game 1 and every game I’ve managed to catch this post-season the missed calls are more or less about even, eyeballing at adjusting for my biases, and the people complaining on the boards are mostly partisans with cognitive biases so massive it’s a miracle they don’t spontaneously form a black hole. I’d like to see a referee analysis for the WCF, but I’m not holding my breath as that’s an even more painful job than counting scoring chances.

by rsm on May 19, 2011 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm done with that debate

But thats not really the point as I said above.

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by pooponastick on May 19, 2011 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah and if the Canucks scored 4 goals in the second, it wouldn’t be close at all. We can play the What if game all day.

by marcness52 on May 19, 2011 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

For a complete shit

props to eager for admitting he was a turd last night and admitting he took a bad tripping call (i.e. not the ref’s fault) as so many players do after games like that.

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by Canuckles on May 19, 2011 6:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Did he give his thoughts on which team he’ll be playing for next year?

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by Twin Terror on May 19, 2011 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was thinking Swiss League.

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by Twin Terror on May 19, 2011 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

He is still a little ol' douche

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by Canuckles on May 19, 2011 7:07 PM PDT reply actions  

A comment on the "how has Higgins been so good? Where has he been the last few years?" comments up higher

Imo, Higgins has been so good in Vancouver not because he’s just playing with good linemates, but because he’s playing with linemates who are as fast as he is. When it’s Higgins – Kesler – Raymond, I mean Raymond is one of the very fastest skaters in the league, and Kesler has like A-, elite speed as well. When all that speed is together on one line, it allows the players on that line to become greater than the sum of their parts. You can see the same thing happening with the third line. That amount of speed is just overwhelming to the other team, and it opens up so many options tactically, and it causes so many turnovers when you can backcheck with that type of speed, and stretch the zone on the counter-attack with so much speed. It affects where the other team’s defense can set up and all of that. Their D can’t stack the blueline like they’d normally do because you have that much speed. If it’s just Higgins alone on that line with two average skaters, the other team can still stack the blueline, and can still do a lot of things, and sort of neutralize his speed. But when he has two other speedsters, like I said it just creates this situation where they can become more than a sum of their parts. If it’s just Higgins and two average skaters, and a puck gets jarred loose on the cycle by the defense, well if it gets jarred loose in Higgins’ third of the ice, Higgins can probably get their first and keep possession, whereas if it gets jarred loose around his linemates, they won’t get their first, and his team will lose possession. But with two other speedsters, basically no matter where the loose puck comes, odds are Higgins team will keep possession. If he isn’t getting their first, one of his two linemates is. And then all that extended possession time gives him more opportunity to score and all that.

So it’s just a more than the sum of their parts type of thing. Lapierre and Hansen have gelled so well together in part because of this phenomenon too. Torres isn’t slow either so it’s a similar situation.

by jacktheboxboss on May 19, 2011 7:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Higgy

has crazy speed

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by Chuckles Canuckles on May 19, 2011 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Higgy Higgy Higgy, can’t you see?

by marcness52 on May 20, 2011 1:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sometimes your beard just hypnotize me

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by Semi_Colon on May 20, 2011 2:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Higgy

Sicker than your average.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on May 20, 2011 2:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also the comment in I'm not sure which game recap of the two, about Hansen's skill being doubted

I agree that he’s got great will too, but I don’t doubt his skill at all. I think he has top 6 forward skill. Maybe he’s not a good enough passer or all around player, I don’t know, to be more than kind of a keep-it-simple speedster, but in terms of his hands and his speed, I don’t doubt that skill. He’s not just a grinder speedster. He’s got really quick hands too, and great balance agility. I’d like to see him get more ice time. I think he could do wonders with the Sedins.

by jacktheboxboss on May 19, 2011 7:58 PM PDT reply actions  

YES YES YES YES
With all the talk, boasting of hitting more, and tear filled eyes while muttering about the calls, the San Jose Sharks continue to totally ignore one absolute certainty that is making the biggest impact on this series. The Vancouver Canucks are just faster than the team from San Jose. All this talk of the Sharks just needing to be in quicker on the defenders, or just having to hit them more, was just that, talk. They tried. They got burned. Next game plan for Friday guys?

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by Chuckles Canuckles on May 19, 2011 11:45 PM PDT reply actions  

No, please no.

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by Jevant on May 20, 2011 4:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

As riled up as I am by some of the suggestions at Ftf.

No. That’s just not our style, as much as I want to see him beat Eager into a pulp.

I prefer our FU PP at the end of the game to put the game away anyways.

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by Vancouverguy on May 20, 2011 7:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

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