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Down Here All The Fish Is Happy, As Off To The Waves They Roll: A Preview Of The SJ Sharks

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I promise that will be the last oceanic reference from me. Today. Probably.

Also for one final time: the best part of this SJS/VAN series is all the narratives that have to be tossed. One of these teams is going to the SCF which alone wipes out many of the tired mainstream plot points from the past year two years three years forever. Some fresh blood from the West is gunning for the Cup and that's a good thing for the markets and long suffering fanbases. Not so hot for folks in the Eastern timezone, but sleep is overrated anyway.

The Sharks are big, fast, deep and don't mind delivering a hit or or two. Their defense is pretty active so, unlike with Nashville, there should be plenty of open ice but that's a double-edged sword. While we were busy fending off Washington for the best record in the league toward the end of the regular season, it may have gone unnoticed the torrid pace San Jose was maintaining and the whispers that this could be their year. It's only fitting that the #1 and #2 team now meet and unless another Kesler-like performance is in the works, Vancouver will have to do what they already have done to Chicago and Nashville: beat them at their own game.

After the jump, a look at our opponent's lines and pairings and a bonus NM exclusive: the real Kyle Wellwood headshot.

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First line


Patrick Marleau

#12 / Center / San Jose Sharks

6-2

220

Sep 15, 1979



GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG GTG SOG PCT
2010 - Patrick Marleau 82 37 36 73 -3 16 11 2 9 279


Joe Thornton

#19 / Center / San Jose Sharks

6-4

230

Jul 02, 1979



GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG GTG SOG PCT
2010 - Joe Thornton 80 21 49 70 4 47 9 2 3 149


Devin Setoguchi

#16 / Right Wing / San Jose Sharks

6-0

200

Jan 01, 1987



GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG GTG SOG PCT
2010 - Devin Setoguchi 72 22 19 41 -2 37 4 0 5 199

You know what you get with Thornton (besides the occasional flop) is a huge, hard-nosed SOB who will give Vancouver fits of rage. I imagine it'll be his job to rattle Kesler and their battles should be epic. Setoguchi has a team best 3 PPGs and is tied for the most goals with Couture (6) and the most GWGs with Thornton (2). All three see ample PP time and Marleau is one of the workhorses on their PK. Thornton has a 60.7% FO% rate which should make for some crucial draws if he lines up with Kesler (or Lapierre for that matter) in the defensive zone. Not too many weaknesses and, as a line, are slightly bigger and much faster than Nashville's top skaters. Bieksa and Hamhuis will have to earn their bread money the hard way again.

 

Second line


Ryane Clowe

#29 / Left Wing / San Jose Sharks

6-2

225

Sep 30, 1982



GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG GTG SOG PCT
2010 - Ryane Clowe 75 24 38 62 13 100 5 0 2 185


Logan Couture

#39 / Center / San Jose Sharks

6-1

195

Mar 28, 1989



GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG GTG SOG PCT
2010 - Logan Couture 79 32 24 56 18 41 10 0 8 253


Dany Heatley

#15 / Left Wing / San Jose Sharks

6-4

220

Jan 21, 1981



GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG GTG SOG PCT
2010 - Dany Heatley 80 26 38 64 8 56 11 1 5 217

Similar to Vancouver, their second line is better right now than the first: they have 16 goals and 33 points in contrast with 8 goals and 25 points for Thornton's line. Logically then Couture leads GFON/60 with 3.22 and the rest of his line isn't far behind him (Clowe at 3.21 and Heatley at 3.13). This gives you an idea of their offensive depth, especially in contrast with the fact no one on Vancouver is above a 3.00 (Kesler is the best with a 2.46). Clowe has the highest shooting rate on the team (13.8%). Up until now, they've seen some of the easier competition and Heatley and Couture also see Sedin-like offensive zone starts. AV has to make these guys pay a stiffer price (Edler I'm looking at you chief) and Clowe is especially vulnerable: his nine minors is second worst in the playoffs and leads the league with 19 giveaways.

 

Third line


Torrey Mitchell

#17 / Center / San Jose Sharks

5-11

190

Jan 30, 1985



GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG GTG SOG PCT
2010 - Torrey Mitchell 66 9 14 23 10 46 0 0 1 116


Joe Pavelski

#8 / Center / San Jose Sharks

5-11

190

Jul 11, 1984



GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG GTG SOG PCT
2010 - Joe Pavelski 74 20 46 66 10 24 11 1 5 282


Kyle Wellwood

#20 / Center / San Jose Sharks

5-10

181

May 16, 1983



GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG GTG SOG PCT
2010 - Kyle Wellwood 35 5 8 13 10 0 0 0 0 50

Talk about chemistry: an effective "smaller" line that creates a decent amount of offense with speed and driving to the net. Also of note are all three are quite good at faceoffs. The other Joe can be just as much of a handful as the bigger one: Pavelski has the second most goals on the team, one of their main PK'ers and has a FO% of 52.6%. Mitchell is the biggest hitter on the line (26), good enough for fifth best and the guy's got wheels as seen here schooling four of our players. Lastly there is Mr. Wellwood who deserves more credit for often being what you want from a hockey player: hard working, willing to pay the price, soft hands, good shot and reliable in less than favorable situations. Few teams know him as we do and give credit to the Sharks for - unlike Vancouver - giving Wellwood some quality players to skate with (check the QUALTEAM); tied for fifth in points, he's become a big part of their run. However, Wellwood's mouth got him in trouble when he was in Vancouver and if ever there was message board material for the Canucks if these series goes south, here it is. Unlike many NM'ers, I can't stand this guy and if we're truly in demon-slaying mode, then we show Pudge the "lessons" we've learned firsthand and watch Mr. Can't-Keep-A-KHL-Job explain himself after the handshakes.

 

Fourth line


Ben Eager

#55 / Left Wing / San Jose Sharks

6-2

235

Jan 22, 1984



GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG GTG SOG PCT
2010 - Ben Eager 68 7 10 17 4 120 0 0 1 84


Scott Nichol

#21 / Center / San Jose Sharks

5-9

180

Dec 31, 1974



GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG GTG SOG PCT
2010 - Scott Nichol 56 4 3 7 -3 50 0 0 0 61


Jamal Mayers

#10 / Right Wing / San Jose Sharks

6-1

214

Oct 24, 1974



GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG GTG SOG PCT
2010 - Jamal Mayers 78 3 11 14 3 124 0 0 0 62

The final spot could also be McGinn or Ferriero, but for argument's sake, let's assume it's Mr. Mayers. The good news is if the fourth line is indeed this trio, they own the worst GAON/60 for the Sharks at a fugly combined 17.28. Nichol owns the worst +/- on the team (-6). As with Chicago's fourth line, AV's eyes should go all Roger Rabbity at the idea of locking either the Sedins or Kesler against them on an icing call. Though Eager leads the Sharks in PIMs, I wouldn't gamble on seeing his borderline nasty side with limited minutes at this stage of the playoffs, but go ahead and prove me wrong. No one here averages more than five and a half minutes per game.

 

First pairing


Dan Boyle

#22 / Defenseman / San Jose Sharks

5-11

190

Jul 12, 1976



GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG GTG SOG PCT
2010 - Dan Boyle 76 9 41 50 2 67 4 0 2 199



Douglas Murray

#3 / Defenseman / San Jose Sharks

6-3

240

Mar 12, 1980



GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG GTG SOG PCT
2010 - Douglas Murray 73 1 13 14 5 44 0 0 0 102


This is obviously San Jose's best pairing, though not of the same mold that a Weber/Suter or Seabrook/Keith are. They play the toughest minutes of course and Boyle goes on to play the most PP and PK minutes for their blueline. Boyle also leads the defense with 11 points and - as if often the case with big minute blueliners - owns a respectable GFON/60 of 2.30 along with the worst GAON/60 at 3.07. Murray is a beast (you'll hate him by the end of his first shift), leading the post season in hits (51) and has the most blocked shots on the team (34). Who these two see more of at even strength - Sedins or Kesler - will be the biggest plot point starting in game one.

(While we're at it, let's table this unfortunate news: Everyone on the SJ defense has at least 20 blocked shots. For comparison only Edler and Hammer are above 20 for Vancouver. See FTF for more, but the challenge is obvious: Vancouver has to pick their spots wisely.)

 

Second pairing


Jason Demers

#60 / Defenseman / San Jose Sharks

6-1

185

Jun 09, 1988



GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG GTG SOG PCT
2010 - Jason Demers 75 2 22 24 19 28 0 0 0 105



Marc-Edouard Vlasic

#44 / Defenseman / San Jose Sharks

6-1

200

Mar 30, 1987



GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG GTG SOG PCT
2010 - Marc-Edouard Vlasic 80 4 14 18 14 18 0 0 2 116

This pairing is similar to what would happen if you took a mature Lee Sweatt and paired him with a mature Chris Tanev. Demers has shown some real offensive flair and can jump into the rush largely because Vlasic provides a sort of quiet steadiness well beyond his years. McLellan rewards the two with ample playing time (Vlasic - paired with Boyle - eat the most minutes on the PK and Demers isn't far behind) and they present a similar problem that Campbell/Hljamamamamamarson did from the first round (in fact Vlasic's development this year probably helped the Sharks forget the RFA offer they offered Hljamamamamamarson). Demers was a +2 with one assist against Vancouver this year and Vlasic had no points with an even rating.

 

Third pairing


Ian White

#9 / Defenseman / San Jose Sharks

5-10

200

Jun 04, 1984



GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG GTG SOG PCT
2010 - Ian White 78 4 22 26 3 26 1 0 0 138


Niclas Wallin

#7 / Defenseman / San Jose Sharks

6-3

220

Feb 20, 1975



GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG GTG SOG PCT
2010 - Niclas Wallin 74 3 5 8 0 46 0 0 0 86

It's not often your third pairing leads the way in GFON/60, but Wallin and White (no no, not Patrick White but I like that you thought that) do just that. White - picked up before the trade deadline who quietly became the highest scoring defenseman of any defenseman moved at the deadline - joins Boyle as the top PP pairing. White's a secondary assist machine thus far so he's well equipped to start the rushes and get the opposition on their heels. On the flip side Wallin and White get torched as third pairings often do (a GAON/60 of 2.82 and 2.79 respectively). Wallin also commits the second highest amount of defensive turnovers at 7 (Boyle leads with 9) and made a key DZ turnover in game five in the first round which lead to a Kings goal that  forced Niemi to get yanked (not saying it's his fault, I'm just sayin').

 

Goalie


Antti Niemi

#31 / Goalie / San Jose Sharks

6-2

210

Aug 29, 1983



GP MIN W L EGA GA GAA SA SV SV% SO
2010 - Antti Niemi 60 3524 35 18 140 2.38 1741 1601 .920 6

Annoying fact: Niemi has yet to lose a playoff series in his career. How can Vancouver succeed where others have failed? I asked Red Wings blogger J.J. From Kansas from Winging It In Motown for his take on Niemi after their series and how Vancouver can solve him. J.J. wasn't at a loss for words:

In only his second playoff run, Antti Niemi continues to confuse the hell out of people who watch him play against their team and still manage to lose to the Sharks.  Of course, for those who have watched San Jose's first two rounds, it would seem that the same question could be asked of the entire mercurial squad.  That is perhaps the most fitting thing about Niemi's tenure with the Sharks, a goaltender who you're not sure what you're going to get out of on any given night playing behind a team with the exact same problem.  For what it's worth, there doesn't seem to be a strong correlation between Niemi's level of play and his team's.  Sometimes you'll get a first period stinker from him that his skaters will fight him out of and sometimes his skaters will make his night easy only to see him make theirs difficult.  When they're both off, check the bridges around San Jose for increased bungee-free jumping activity.  When they're both on, check Google Maps for increased traffic on "San Jose Parade Route."

On the technical side, Niemi does two things incredibly well.  One, he tracks the puck around the zone to stay on his angles, rarely overplaying to one side (unless Datsyuk's bringing it in through the circle on the backhand, that is).  Two, he blocks the lower part of the net incredibly effectively.  Just because he's good at covering the lower half doesn't mean he's garbage when facing high shots though.  Niemi's got a good glove hand and an quick blocker.  His biggest weakness is controlling where the puck goes when it leaves him.  He's not a good puck-handler on dump-ins for one.  More importantly, Antti Niemi is to rebound control what Patrick Kane is to self-control.  Both of these things are the window to embarrassment, black eyes, and sore asses.  Even better for the get-traffic-to-him-and-pepper-him-with-shots crowd is that he scrambles worse than Eli Manning with vertigo.  In the time it takes him to recover from an initial shot to get back into position, Niclas Wallin could evolve into something resembling a human. 


Bottom line is that beating him is going to take pretty much the same formula as it takes to beat most other NHL goalies.  Get traffic in front, fight for the dirty spots on the ice, and fire puck after puck after puck on net.  Fancy plays are pretty to look at, but passing up shots on net when you get a chance is a fine way to find yourself on vacation at the end of May.

For what it's worth, traffic and the greasy goals is exactly how Vancouver just beat the more talented Pekka Rinne behind a defense that was built to collapse around him.

 

San Jose Power Play: 13.7% (13th)

 

San Jose PP Line Frequencies

  • Marleau, Pavelski, Setoguchi, Thornton (37.15%)
  • Clowe, Couture, Heatley (22.14%)

San Jose PP Pairing Frequencies

  • Boyle (47.33%)
  • Demers, White (15.78%)
  • Boyle, White (11.96%)

 

San Jose Penalty Kill: 82.7% (7th)

 

San Jose PK Line Frequencies

  • Marleau, Pavelski (16.51%)
  • Nichol, Pavelski (10.9%)
  • Couture, Mitchell (9.03%)

San Jose PK Pairing Frequencies

  • Boyle, Murray (29.6%)
  • Demers, Vlasic (28.66%)
  • Wallin, White (14.64%)

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So Henrik hasn't practiced all week

But he’s “totally fine”
mmmHHHmmmmm

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on May 14, 2011 9:46 AM PDT reply actions  

yep, now we know for sure!


The good news is if the fourth line is indeed this trio, they own the worst GAON/60 for the Sharks at a fugly combined 17.28. Nichol owns the worst +/- on the team (-6).

Yikes! And YAY!

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by Sean Zandberg on May 14, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

How does ours

Compare though? Hopefully we can take advantage of theirs, but I think they don’t get played very often (like ours)

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on May 14, 2011 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Our worst skaters at GAON/60 is Hodgson followed by the first line. Bottom six is fine.

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by Yankee Canuck on May 14, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh Henrik and Daniel. You two make me chuckle. And sob uncontrollably

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on May 14, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I keep hearing the media

Blabber on about how the Sharks are a true 4 line team that can roll all 4 lines the whole game. They have 3 good lines and Pavelski is a great 3rd line center but what is so scary about their 4th line. It just seems like a collection of big plumbers who will look to be physical like many 4th lines around the league.

Ryan Kesler for MVP

by thegreek on May 14, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

So happy

For this break for Hank’s sake. I really hope we hit them hard in game 1. SJ must be bumped and bruised. Clowe must not me 100.

by wyoming on May 14, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Looked ok tonight ;)

Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.

by Jevant on May 16, 2011 5:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Copper and Blue’s Wings-Sharks scoring chance review

San Jose killed it on the PP – 39 to 20. We’re going to need to keep playing great on the PK (or just stop taking so many damn penalties. On second thought, I like that idea more).

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on May 14, 2011 10:34 AM PDT reply actions  

Everybody have fun tonight
@BotchonCanucks
Jason Botchford
Manny malhotra continues to have lots of fun, skating for the 4th straight day.

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on May 14, 2011 10:47 AM PDT reply actions  

Everybody

Wang Chung tonight.

  What ? reference too old?

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by vancitydan on May 14, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was going to put that

Initially. But wasn’t sure how it would go over

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on May 14, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel better now

I HATED disco, BTW…honest!

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by vancitydan on May 14, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isn't he the Islanders owner?

Oh, wait, wrong Wang.

And for the record, I like that song. Feel free to drop the banhammer.

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by CanuckGods on May 14, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

what’s really scary is how good san jose could be if they weren’t spending so much money on heatley and wallin….

by Passive Voice on May 14, 2011 11:02 AM PDT reply actions  

Pavelski = 3rd line centre

Scary.

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by nucksandpucks on May 14, 2011 11:18 AM PDT reply actions  

Niemi

Love that take on Niemi. One of those players whose success baffles me, yet you can’t argue with the results. Hopefully the Canucks make him look human and bring him back to earth.

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by nucksandpucks on May 14, 2011 11:19 AM PDT reply actions  

.906 this postseason, .910 last season

His career sv% is .916 during the regular season, so that’s better, but Luongo represents a significant advantage over both of those numbers. Niemi is seriously nothing special.

Jens! doesn’t have a shadow because he dropped it repeatedly until it retired, climbing into the CSC team car and claiming a stomach ailment.

by dees ees en drama on May 14, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

He had a great Semifinal, he got pulled twice in the opening round

He posted 0.931 SV%, and 2.42 GAA against Detroit.

"You can't stop him, you can only hope to contain Kent Huskins!" - Randy Hahn 2/13/11

by pooponastick on May 14, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Niemi started ALL games and won ALL OT-this post season.

I think that should be something to think about when discussing pure fact and stats, especially when you compare it on paper-or browser. Maybe it’s seriously nothing special, or maybe it’s something to seriously consider, seriously-irregarless to the series and your facts.

by Just another Centre on May 15, 2011 1:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

He also got pulled twice

So there’s that as well. And not really sure what starting all games has to do with anything, seriously

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on May 15, 2011 7:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

But I think that's pretty pointless now

Those were rough times, but he kept us in games we weren’t supposed to be in last series.

"You can't stop him, you can only hope to contain Kent Huskins!" - Randy Hahn 2/13/11

by pooponastick on May 15, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agree

Same with Lu’s pulling.

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on May 15, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh, here's Lambert's take on last series in his prediction for the next one:
Vancouver really only ran into any trouble against Nashville because putting Rinne behind a Suter-Weber pairing is like building a brick wall in front of the net for two-thirds of a game

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on May 14, 2011 11:20 AM PDT reply actions  

Hello Folks!

Huge Sharks fan here, but I live in British Columbia and am surrounded by CanuckMania :D Just wanted to let you all know that I’m looking very foward to this series. I think it’s going to be a DOOZY, and the Thornton/Kesler match-up could be simply epic.

Here’s to some good fun clean trash-talk, some awesome hockey, and the looks of pure evil when I wear my Sharks jersey around town. (Hahahah).

Hope to see some of you over on Fear the Fin!

Let the best team win! (That’s the Sharks of course. I have a golf bag with a Canucks logo on it already! :))

by MrBionic on May 14, 2011 11:30 AM PDT reply actions  

Good luck with that
the looks of pure evil when I wear my Sharks jersey around town

I imagine you will be in for some rough times my friend! Just stay safe, that’s all I ask. There are a lot of idiots out there who, after a few beers, would pop a guy for wearing the wrong jersey.

Should be a hell of a series. I look forward to learning to hate the Sharks!

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by nucksandpucks on May 14, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the concern ;)

Luckily, I’m not actually in Vancouver or the Lower Mainland, so I’ll be pretty safe. I’ve already got some friendly feuds going with fellow townspeople as well. Should be good times.

by MrBionic on May 14, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, Canadians as bad as Dodger fans?

Who knew, us Americans have always thought it would be safe in Canada, maybe except Montreal with a SJ jersey but thanks for the info.

by Just another Centre on May 15, 2011 1:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

que?

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on May 15, 2011 7:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I cannot oblige you with the trash-talk yet

I never really feel comfortable going to other team blogs (I’ve seen how well-intentioned compliments can get misinterpreted as being condescending), so I’ll take this opportunity to say that I have a ton of admiration for the Sharks and hope that many of their fans are reading here. I haven’t been into hockey anywhere near as long as other Canucks fans, but the Sharks were the first team to teach me that you could enjoy cheering more than one team (SKATING OUT OF GIANT SHARK MOUTH OMG).

Maybe it will change by the end of the series and I’ll hate them the way I am apparently supposed to hate all our opponents, but for now I just can’t muster up anything but excitement that we get to play each other in the WCF this year. I feel like there’s nothing better than to go up against an “enemy” that you admire and respect: when you win, your victory means more.

I won’t wish you good luck (because I’ve had my fill of other teams’ good luck in these playoffs), but I’ll wish your Sharks good health and their best play of the year. :)

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by Pseuccubus on May 14, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

What is that picture for wellwood?

Maybe it’s cause I’m on my phone but I don’t know what that is

by Canuckelhead on May 14, 2011 11:38 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I’ll let you look again ;)

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by Yankee Canuck on May 14, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK I looked on my computer and I still don't know

and it’s driving me crazy. I even made my wife come and look and she couldn’t tell me. What is it!? Why am i so dumb?

by Canuckelhead on May 14, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha

its an enema I think

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by Chuckles Canuckles on May 14, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

ding ding

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by Yankee Canuck on May 14, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Raffi Torres

looks forward to personally thanking Kyle Wellwood for his change of heart about the Canucks.

Globe and Mail Friday, May. 13, 2011: Kyle Wellwood mends fences …"It’s nice to play in Canada. The fans are phenomenal," he said. "I think they’re going to be the loudest building – except for San Jose…"

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by reggiedunlop on May 14, 2011 11:42 AM PDT reply actions  

That picture

Just screams “I’m gonna kill you”

Hahaha, if only I could find the .gif of the south american guy being interviewed and just looking like that the whole time

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on May 14, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Success!

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on May 14, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s hilarious..but reminds me too much of Luongo after game 5 against the Hawks ;)

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by reggiedunlop on May 14, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's hard not to fear a guy

whose pupils are larger than your head.

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by CanuckGods on May 14, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also

I’m pretty sure he’s related to Buscemi’s “Crazy Eyes” character from Mr. Deeds.

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by CanuckGods on May 14, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

@BotchonCanucks
Jason Botchford
Bieksa on welly: i dont even remember what that weasel said

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on May 14, 2011 12:05 PM PDT reply actions  

follow up
@BotchonCanucks
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Bieksa on welly: we were afraid to lose when he was on our team. He was the smallest 3rd line centre in the league

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on May 14, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s pretty funny Juice, and you are playing great hockey, but for fuck sakes what’s the point of providing whiteboard material for the opposition yet again??

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by reggiedunlop on May 14, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ugh, more of this talk.

Don’t provoke the enemy, boohoo!

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by ShiftySC on May 14, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Marleau got the last laugh on JR, no need to give SJ any incentive to get behind Welly.

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by reggiedunlop on May 14, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Assuming cause an effect, assuming this kind of looseness in our dressing room doesn’t help our team, assuming Welly cares, or even know.

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by ShiftySC on May 14, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

(s)

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by ShiftySC on May 14, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Especially considering how great Wellwood has been playing for us this Post-Season. He’s been off the charts, really. Not many points, but the guy’s been on fire.

by MrBionic on May 14, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

But Bieksa isn’t wrong. And for all any of us know, the much larger, much scarier Bieksa might make one big hit to go along with this comment and put Wellwood, a soft player in the regular season, back into soft mode. It’s unlikely, but the point of trash talk isn’t to accurately define how a player is playing.

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by ShiftySC on May 14, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, as an aside, because I live in BC and watch an awful lot of Vancouver hockey, I’ve seen how soft Bieksa can be as well. Wellwood might not be able to lay a lickin’ on him, but he’d better keep an eye on Murray ;)

by MrBionic on May 14, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

No. Glare more than fight, yes. Pinch irresponsibly, sure. But Bieksa can punish and does intimidate.

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by ShiftySC on May 14, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bieksa’s a lot of things, but soft ain’t one of them. Check out the bounceback after the Bickell hit.

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by reggiedunlop on May 14, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you reg...

I read that, and was like…“soft”? Bieksa?

The Canucks are not worried much about Murray, methinks. Maybe if he gets faster…

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by vancitydan on May 14, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s something you really only notice when you watch thousands of Canucks games from a NON fan perspective ;)

by MrBionic on May 14, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Groan.

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by ShiftySC on May 14, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

ahhhh...I see.

My vision is blinded by these Blue and Green glasses.

Gotcha.

I wear them because they set my eyes off. Chicks dig em.

Silly me, fooled by his 45 hits and 14 blocks in the playoffs, to go with the 104 hits and 94 blocks in the regular season.

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by vancitydan on May 14, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Say what you want

But it can have an effect.

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on May 14, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Say what you want, but it also can not. Or it can have a negative effect.

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by ShiftySC on May 14, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

True, but I’d be surprised to see a similar quote by Lidstrom or Niedermayer. The off-ice crap is O’Brien territory.

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by reggiedunlop on May 14, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bieksa isn’t and never will be Lidstrom or Neidermayer. He’s Shane O’Brien’s grit and attitude combined with the talent to back it up.

I celebrate that.

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by ShiftySC on May 14, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

He could be if he changed his last name..but seriously I agree, he’s a crucial component of the Juicy Hammer™, our Shark-hunting shut down machine…“WE ARE ALL BIEKSA”.

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by reggiedunlop on May 14, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Besides

It sounds a hell of a lot better than WE ARE ALL JAN BULIS, despite what PITB would have you believe.

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by CanuckGods on May 14, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am amazed

no one has said anything about Juice saying Wellwood being the smallest third line centre in the league.

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by Canuckles on May 15, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I WANT TO FUCKING CRUSH THOSE SHARKS.

by Beantown Canuck on May 14, 2011 3:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Just fucking win

don’t care how you do it. Win, stay healthy, and get to the Stanley Cup final, and bring the Cup to Vancouver.

Sedins must score or we’re fucked so hard.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on May 14, 2011 3:47 PM PDT reply actions  

One of the Sportsnet commentators mentioned that a run and gun style favors the Canucks, the Sharks prefer a half-court offense where they can use their size advantage.

Aside from Boyle, none of their d-men scare me; I really like our chances if we get in on the forecheck and punish them physically.

Our third line should be able to torch their third line, I’ll take Torres/Lapierre/Beaker in a track meet for the win.

Mr. Eager, please meet Mr. Oreskovich and Mr. Torres; they would love to have a couple words with you.

by Coach Ryan on May 14, 2011 3:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Pavelski is very good

He is the only one who worries me.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on May 14, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fair point on JP; as a group though, Canucks 3rd line > Sharks.

by Coach Ryan on May 14, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

If we hit more than them

then I’ll agree. Physicality will be key for our third line.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on May 14, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Meaning our 3L

has to outhit, and be stronger, faster and tougher than their 3L.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on May 14, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

As much as I want to hate on Eager, he’s not that bad in a sheltered way. He’s a thug but generally smart about it. I have to think they’d keep their fourth line on a short leash. Ditto ours.

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by Yankee Canuck on May 14, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Going to disagree. I think that a fourth line of Oreo-Hodgson-Glass could capably play 10-12 minutes a game.

Sedin line – 18 mins
Kesler line – 18 mins
Lapierre line -12 mins
Hodgson line – 12 mins

Roll all four lines, allows the key players to be fresh late in the game.

by Coach Ryan on May 14, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oreo-Glass-Hodgson

Are not strong enough to skate that much against a team as deep as the Sharks, IMO. And there’s no reason to play the Kesler line less when it’s been the best one

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by Semi_Colon on May 14, 2011 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd like Kesler to play less

so he doesn’t get gassed. Then again its the conference final and this is the time to use all that energy that he saved by having Manny take on tough competition and tough zone starts.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on May 14, 2011 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh they definitely could, but I don’t think AV wants that at this stage. Sedins/Kesler are the 1/2 punch with Lappy’s line spelling them. Fourth line deserves 5-8 minutes at this point.

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by Yankee Canuck on May 14, 2011 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tom Wakefield of Canucks Hockey Blog

picks SJ in 6.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on May 14, 2011 4:38 PM PDT reply actions  

About Tom Wakefield: “…His first jersey was an Edmonton Oilers one. His favourite childhood memories are with his dad watching the Toronto Maple Leafs…”

Discuss.

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by reggiedunlop on May 14, 2011 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Asshole for picking the Sharks.

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by PensFanInDenver on May 14, 2011 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Meh

Who cares? Everyone has a guess. No one is more valid than the other.

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by Yankee Canuck on May 14, 2011 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I posted it

so you guys could flame him.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on May 14, 2011 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also

Game 7 Burrows goal Canucks fan reaction. And no, the black guy is not me. I grew a playoff beard because Im a real man DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

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by Chuckles Canuckles on May 14, 2011 4:40 PM PDT reply actions  

It that eightyseven

Back there?

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"

by Semi_Colon on May 14, 2011 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe

Im not sure where she watched Game 7.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on May 14, 2011 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome!

Poutine & Meatballs

by cyxj on May 15, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

no, Yankee, don't...

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by missy on May 14, 2011 7:18 PM PDT reply actions  

There’ll be no accusations, just friendly crustaceans under the seeaaaaaaaaaa

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by PKSube on May 15, 2011 2:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not going to lie, I’m a fan of Pavelski. But will be very happy if he doesn’t feature for somehwere between 4 and 7 games… Should be a fun series. Go Canucks!

by andrew21nz on May 15, 2011 2:03 AM PDT reply actions  

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