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Would You Adjust The Bottom Defensive Pairings?

VANCOUVER CANADA - JANUARY 26: David Legwand #11of the Nashville Predators reacts as he is hit by Lee Sweatt #57 of the Vancouver Canucks during the third period in NHL action on January 26 2011 at Rogers Arena in Vancouver British Columbia Canada.  (Photo by Rich Lam/Getty Images)

Hopefully not lost in the KesLORD/Thunderdome party last night was another strong game from our "injury-ravaged" defense. If you knew in October that Vancouver would be without Alexandre Edler, Andrew Alberts and of course Sami Salo, Kevin Bieksa would be our top (or close second) shutdown defenseman and we'd pair Christian Ehrhoff and Keith Ballard with rookies we didn't know of before last summer, you may have uttered a phrase that would have greatly displeased your mother. The only starter not to be knocked out of commission yet is Bieksa.

Yet here is the Gillis plan - or at least back-up plan - in motion. Cut SOB's drama and cap hit, bring in a project player in Ryan Parent for depth. If that trips up, then many of his quiet excursions into the NCAA or European Elite ranks could be the fall back. I don't think he could have predicted how smoothly some of these transitions to the NHL have become.

Star-divide

Though he raised some eyebrows coming in, Christopher Tanev is averaging 13 and half minutes per game. Vigneault is shielding him from the big guys but he's still quietly working well alongside Ballard (who never leaves the defensive zone anyway so there's some trial by fire). He only has two hits, a handful of blocked shots and three takeaways, but he's also found his way onto the special teams and even Ballard has said he's helped his game; not bad for a guy who only played half a season in the AHL.

Lee Sweatt is a different player; like Tanev he's shielded and maintains a similar TO,I but as the more offensive of the two, has two points in three games on four shots. Sweatt and partner Ehrhoff (on opposite ends of the Corsi spectrum) have given Vancouver a different offensive make-up; Sweatt reads the ice very well, from his jump in the rush to score the game winner in Nashville to last night where Hansen buried a rebound off his shot early in the second. Sweatt can also hit and has been credited with a few shotblocks (6) as well. As you know, Sweatt's road to the NHL wasn't a time tested one either.

It's good to have these types of problems, especially in light of the horrific problems with the blueline last season. Rather than buckle at the first tremor of injuries, the corps has held tight with the top guys (Juice, Hammer, Hoff, Ballard) bearing the brunt of the storm while their younger counterparts get their feet wet. Despite the negatives (some bad passes, Rudy's size, Tanev's trepidation of taking the body) it's hard to find a better outcome with so many new faces on the roster.

As Jeff Tambellini knows full well, part of the success this season has been knowing your role. So if you're AV and eye a healthy Alberts and/or Aaron Rome close to returning, do you ride the hot hand you have now or inject that experience back into the pairings?

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How do you adjust the pairings once Alberts/Rome are healthy enough to return?
Look at the standings; don't touch a thing you crazy bastard!
89 votes
Alberts slots in, Tanev returns to Winnipeg
41 votes
Alberts slots in, Sweatt returns to Winnipeg
126 votes
...I miss Rome's aura...
5 votes
Both rookies return to Winnipeg
63 votes
Stop bothering my Liev Schreiber daydreaming. Sabertooth...ROAR...
20 votes

344 votes | Poll has closed

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As well as Sweatt and Tanev are playing, Alberts at least is going to have slot back in for cap reasons. I wouldn’t mind keeping one of the two in place of Rome, as right now I have liked what I’ve seen from both of them over what Rome has brought. Of course, I don’t know which one would be the best – Tanev is more defensive while Sweatt is more offensive…AH too many choices

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by Semi_Colon on Feb 3, 2011 12:08 PM PST reply actions  

Is it possible...

…that we could end up trading someone AWAY for a pick, even though we are tops in the league?

At least we don’t have to worry about picking up this year’s Weinrich or Carney.

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by Jevant on Feb 3, 2011 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Man that Weinich trade pissed me off

What a waste.

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by Yankee Canuck on Feb 3, 2011 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Take that back!

The yellow visor made it all OK.

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by vancitydan on Feb 3, 2011 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

16 games, 0 pts, 8 PIMS. That visor could be red for all I care, he was a train wreck.

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by Yankee Canuck on Feb 3, 2011 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

where’s my sarcasm meter? Oh yeah Mike, I hated that trade too. I don’t know how many times I turned to the next patron at the sports bar and wondered why he wore the fucking thing.

It surely did not help him to see to make the right pass or play.

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by vancitydan on Feb 3, 2011 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh sorry. Mine’s broken too. :)

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by Yankee Canuck on Feb 3, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

A person could make millions repairing them on SBN… ;-/

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by vancitydan on Feb 3, 2011 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Is it possible that we could end up trading someone AWAY for a pick, even though we are tops in the league?

I’m wary of trading alberts because sometimes you need a big mean defenseman in the playoffs to battle the other teams’ 3rd and 4th big lines. We don’t need our goal scoring D men to get injured doing something like that.

by SteveNux on Feb 3, 2011 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Great article

Nice read, very well written, basically sex on a screen. Now to bring attention to the matter at hand. That my friend is a TOUGH situation. To me, Tanev has been the better of the two rookies, maybe not points wise, but defensive play. In my opinion, Alberts has improved drastically since we picked him up from Carolina, and has become a much better, tougher defenceman to play against. So when Alberts has returned I would like to see him back in the lineup for sure. But I would like to see Chris Tanev stay. What is YOUR opinion Yankee?

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by Nathan Stone on Feb 3, 2011 12:08 PM PST reply actions  

Thanks!

One of my adjustments writing at SBN is to pose it to the community first and sound off in the comments with everyone else.

 I think Tanev sticks with Ballard and Alberts bumps up Ehrhoff, similar to what Botch suggested below. It gives Ehrhoff a bit more roaming ability since Alberts isn’t jumping up and keeps Ballard/Tanev together for at least the start of the games. If we need a seventh, I’m ok with it being Rome but I also think these rookies may have pushed him further down the chart. Just a thought.

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by Yankee Canuck on Feb 3, 2011 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree with this

I wouldn’t be that surprised if we’ve seen the last of Rome in Vancouver, barring catastrophic injuries striking.

That said, he does seem to be a bit of a favourite of the regime, so who the heck knows, really. Sami potentially showing up adds yet another wrench.

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by Jevant on Feb 3, 2011 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I posed the same question to Botch

His reply:

Alberts brings too much to the party. I’d go Ehrhoff-Alberts, Ballard-Tanev. Keep #4 on the left side

http://twitter.com/#!/BotchonCanucks/status/33254695812202496

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by Yankee Canuck on Feb 3, 2011 12:15 PM PST reply actions  

I think that’s the thought I’m leaning towards

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by Semi_Colon on Feb 3, 2011 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

That sounds ok to me.

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by Jevant on Feb 3, 2011 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Tanev is the next Bobby Orr!!!!!!!!!!

Sweatt is the next Rafalski, Alberts is a modern day Park and Rome is a poor mans Leetch!!!!!!! Get them all in the lineup AV!!!!!!!!!!

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"I think about it still, almost every day," Joyce says. "I don't want to be known as Jim Joyce, the guy that blew the perfect game. But I think that's inevitable." Why? "Because I'm Jim Joyce," he says, "the umpire who blew the perfect game."

by Section 312 on Feb 3, 2011 12:16 PM PST reply actions  

TRADE BIESKA!!!

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by Jevant on Feb 3, 2011 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

NO

He is GOD!!!!!!!

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"I think about it still, almost every day," Joyce says. "I don't want to be known as Jim Joyce, the guy that blew the perfect game. But I think that's inevitable." Why? "Because I'm Jim Joyce," he says, "the umpire who blew the perfect game."

by Section 312 on Feb 3, 2011 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

!!!!

and so began 3 games worth of maddddd rosterbating in canuckland.

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by Twitchy2010 on Feb 3, 2011 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

3 games or 14 days?

Article says he can be there for 14 days…

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by Jevant on Feb 3, 2011 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

i’m not sure whether to believe it yet……

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by missy on Feb 3, 2011 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for posting

There goes my entire post. Bah!

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by Yankee Canuck on Feb 3, 2011 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Thunder, stolen

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by Semi_Colon on Feb 3, 2011 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

...unless he gets injured down on the Moose.

Not that I said it, dreamed it, want it or am hiring a hitman (arby_18) to take care of that for me. Nope, not at all.

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by Yankee Canuck on Feb 3, 2011 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll take care of it after watching.

Potentially watching Salo play instead of CoHo. I don’t mind, haha.

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by eightyseven on Feb 3, 2011 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Nah...

…I’m still hoping for Ballard-Salo being our 3rd pairing for the playoffs.

Considering that pairing would have been the number 1 pairing against the Hawks in Game 6 last year, I’d say that would put us in very good shape.

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by Jevant on Feb 3, 2011 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Keep in mind

he has said he still isn’t sure he can play at the NHL level. This would be as much about Salo figuring that out as it would be getting in shape. There probably a chance he goes down there and realizes he can’t do it anymore.

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"I think about it still, almost every day," Joyce says. "I don't want to be known as Jim Joyce, the guy that blew the perfect game. But I think that's inevitable." Why? "Because I'm Jim Joyce," he says, "the umpire who blew the perfect game."

by Section 312 on Feb 3, 2011 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

There probably a chance he goes down there and realizes he can’t do it anymore

You bet.

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by Sean Zandberg on Feb 3, 2011 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s the best way to find out though. Better to test it in Manitoba first to make sure things are good. We’re still in fairly decent shape if he can’t come back

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by Semi_Colon on Feb 3, 2011 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly

it’s way better if he is going to suck that he does it on the farm and doesn’t impact the big club.

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"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
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"I think about it still, almost every day," Joyce says. "I don't want to be known as Jim Joyce, the guy that blew the perfect game. But I think that's inevitable." Why? "Because I'm Jim Joyce," he says, "the umpire who blew the perfect game."

by Section 312 on Feb 3, 2011 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Bingo

I’m still not sold Salo is a shoe-in. The team’s success has bought the luxury of not racing him back but he hasn’t spoken/acted like he’s ready to go. And even if that’s a media stance, I have a tough time getting excited to clear a space for the oldest, most frequently injured guy on the roster.

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by Yankee Canuck on Feb 3, 2011 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed. But if he is okay to go, we don’t really have to clear much space at all to slot him in now

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by Semi_Colon on Feb 3, 2011 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I've wondered lately

if management isn’t quietly…uh…encouraging him to think about retirement… the odd suggestion here and there to make him second guess himself just enough to make him have to want it reallllll bad to get to the proper compete level.

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by Twitchy2010 on Feb 3, 2011 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

The management would be out of their minds,

…if they encouraged him to retire.

We need him for the playoffs!!!!!!!!! (sorry for yelling)

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by AttilaS on Feb 3, 2011 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

agreed

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by Bobby Canuck on Feb 3, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Very true

I don’t want him back unless he is 100%.

That said, if he can get back to 100%, I DO want him back for the playoffs.

Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.

by Jevant on Feb 3, 2011 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

He and Edler

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"I think about it still, almost every day," Joyce says. "I don't want to be known as Jim Joyce, the guy that blew the perfect game. But I think that's inevitable." Why? "Because I'm Jim Joyce," he says, "the umpire who blew the perfect game."

by Section 312 on Feb 3, 2011 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Godspeed Edler

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by Semi_Colon on Feb 3, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes

You can do it, Edler. C’mon.

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by Jevant on Feb 3, 2011 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

A little quicker than I thought…let the conspiracy…mad genius GMMG theories commence!

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by vancitydan on Feb 3, 2011 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

How about “I told you so”?

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by AttilaS on Feb 3, 2011 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I tolda so, I tolda so…LOL

I stick with the 24th as his return…

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by vancitydan on Feb 3, 2011 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

If everyone is healthy, how do you rank the 11 guys (10 plus Salo) for the playoffs?

I go:
Edler-Ehrhoff-Hamhuis-Bieksa-Salo-Ballard-Alberts-Tanev-Sweatt-Rome-Parent.

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by Jevant on Feb 3, 2011 12:24 PM PST reply actions  

If Salo actually returns and no cap problems come with it, then these rankings make sense. It’s tough to know Rome’s place at the moment; Tanev/Sweatt may be interchangeable depending on the opponent.

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by Yankee Canuck on Feb 3, 2011 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Almost 100%, but

I’d be inclined to move Bieksa up a bit and slide Ehrhoff and Hammer down one each. And no, I would not have believed i’d be saying that last november, that is for sure.

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by Twitchy2010 on Feb 3, 2011 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I would say that right now, after Edler the next 3 are fairly interchangeable, in my books anyways.

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by Jevant on Feb 3, 2011 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Thats OK and all.

But , regardless, its probably 7 guys, one at least in the pressbox, 2 in Manitoba, and enough choices on any given night with opponents and how they play as factors…

That AV probably has to find mistakes. Tomlinson on 1040 told a good tale last night.

Sitting behind AV on the flight, he engaged him on Tanev, trying to find actual mistakes the burgeoning rookie had made. AV said, he could remember 2, then turned to DT and said, “oh, found another one”, on a pass the kid made.

DT looked at it and was like “you know, the forward didn’t have his stick down for the pass…”

AV laughed and agreed. This is a guy playing Tier 2 Junior 18 mths ago.

Yeah, AV must like his options huh?

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by vancitydan on Feb 3, 2011 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

You say what? I have HOW many good defensive prospecst??

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by Semi_Colon on Feb 3, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Rolls the lozenge around in his mouth for the mics to hear the crackle

Talks about process, how they are playing one game at a time, making goals come true….

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by vancitydan on Feb 3, 2011 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Hope those lozenges don't contain aspertame.

Creates microscopic holes in one’s brain, like the holes in g w bush’s brain from his diet coke addiction.

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by Bobby Canuck on Feb 3, 2011 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Pffft

Makes it easier to keep that sucker cool…more venting.

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by vancitydan on Feb 3, 2011 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Makes sense

G-Dub’s decisions weren’t always sound.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Feb 3, 2011 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

You think?

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by Smoboy41 on Feb 3, 2011 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

“Coalition of da Willin!”

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Feb 3, 2011 7:29 PM PST up reply actions  

He and Clinton are coming to Surrey. Say wha?!

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by eightyseven on Feb 3, 2011 7:50 PM PST up reply actions  

oh god

hide your WMDs, I know you’ve got ’em

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Feb 3, 2011 8:48 PM PST up reply actions  

You mean

shivs?

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by Semi_Colon on Feb 3, 2011 8:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Those too

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Feb 3, 2011 9:17 PM PST up reply actions  

With the loss of Edler and the offense that he brings I’d be sitting Tanev and playing AA while leaving Sweatt in. I like Sweatt’s game so far and he chips in offensively which, for an offensive-minded team is very important

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by Sean Zandberg on Feb 3, 2011 12:24 PM PST reply actions  

This is also true

I am a bit worried about our scoring punch past the Burrdins and Kesler. Generating offence from the backend will be important.

Whomever said that CoHo was partially brought up to see if he could add some offence to the team to determine whether or not they needed to add another scoring forward was pretty bang on, in my books. MayRay has to prove he’s for real, in my books, or else it might be worth investigating another scoring option for that line.

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by Jevant on Feb 3, 2011 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Whomever said that CoHo was partially brought up..

It’s actually “whoever”. “Whomever” is only used to replace “him”. “Whoever” replaces “he”. For example:
“Salo is such a god on defense that they should trade whomever they need” is correct because you would replace it with “him” and not “he”

Just felt like helping because most people probably don’t know this :)

by SteveNux on Feb 3, 2011 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Turn on your sarcasm meter because:

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by Sean Zandberg on Feb 3, 2011 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

haha nice one :)

Yeah I’m pretty bad when it comes to grammar in the interwebs, but the whomever lesson might help someone in the future… in the real world. It’s something I only learned fairly recently :)

by SteveNux on Feb 3, 2011 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought that was supposed to be Semi’s job

by jluglue on Feb 3, 2011 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

O/T

HE’S USING HYPNOSIS has gone from ~2000 views when Shifty posted it here 24 hours ago to ~300,000 views right now.

by Passive Voice on Feb 3, 2011 12:38 PM PST reply actions  

NM

Has some serious traffic pull, apparently

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by Semi_Colon on Feb 3, 2011 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow.

It is pretty good though…

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by vancitydan on Feb 3, 2011 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Let’s Celebrate!

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by ShiftySC on Feb 3, 2011 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I did my part by sharing it on FB. :)

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by cyxj on Feb 3, 2011 7:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh boy

Kuzma just tweeted the Salo news. Time to get into the internet bombshelters

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by Semi_Colon on Feb 3, 2011 12:47 PM PST reply actions  

Well, well, well...

A week after Edler is injured, Salo is getting ready to play for Moose.
(me and Beantown Canuck are snickering: what a “surprise”!)
By the way, playing the Moose is like playing for the Canucks, but there is zero risk involved.There are big hits, and checks, and everything else. Playing for the Moose means that Salo IS ready to play, medically speaking. The question remains, how good is he.

To me, the scary thing is right now, that the Canucks look too good to be true. The rookies are excited and flying high. Everything is rosy and dandy cozy.
And then come the payoffs, the grueling, bone-crunching reality. And the rookies will find out that all the space they had during the regular season, is gone.

That’s why we need Salo and Alberts, because we can’t count on Edler anymore. Without Salo AND Edler, we will be like last year’s Sharks and Capitals.

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by AttilaS on Feb 3, 2011 12:54 PM PST reply actions  

Without Salo AND Edler, we will be like last year’s Sharks and Capitals.

I don’t think it’s that bad. Even without those two our defense is better than last year’s Caps

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by Semi_Colon on Feb 3, 2011 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

May be you are right.

But with these rookies in the line-up, we won’t know for sure. What if Tanev tanks in the playoffs?

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by AttilaS on Feb 3, 2011 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

We do still have Alberts and Rome…

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by Semi_Colon on Feb 3, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, and this year’s Alberts is much better than last year’s. But a healthy Salo, on top of his game, has to be a big upgrade.

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by AttilaS on Feb 3, 2011 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

A for instance. Last year, the pairings were all effed up in the playoffs cuz of injuries, and none of the guys called up, like Baumer and Oberg (?) had really played with any of their partners. Then thrown in vs the Hawks, and we see what happens.

This year, Ballard is your #5 right now. A 3rd pairing, when healthy, of he and Salo becomes a shutdown pairing at least at a par with Juicy Hammer.

Last year, SOB was in the top pairing when all was said and done….

As Stan Lee says…Nuff Said!

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by vancitydan on Feb 3, 2011 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

but there is zero risk involved

Hhaha, what? Ever watch AHL games? Or am I misunderstanding you?

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by Sean Zandberg on Feb 3, 2011 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

No kidding.

He will get tested physically in the AHL…

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by vancitydan on Feb 3, 2011 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it might have been more of a comment on how if he plays badly it won’t affect the Canucks

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by Semi_Colon on Feb 3, 2011 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Excelsior!

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by vancitydan on Feb 3, 2011 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly!

Thanks for reading my post correctly.

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by AttilaS on Feb 3, 2011 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I got people's backs

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by Semi_Colon on Feb 3, 2011 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I reread your comment and see my error. Apologies

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by Sean Zandberg on Feb 3, 2011 6:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I got it too…but we like to be “fun” around here.

No offense…friends? Pinky swear?

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by vancitydan on Feb 3, 2011 6:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Let’s all drink!

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by Sean Zandberg on Feb 3, 2011 6:46 PM PST up reply actions  

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by Canuckles on Feb 3, 2011 7:09 PM PST up reply actions  

To be honest

“medically speaking” in my opinion is only the first hurdle and maybe the easiest to get over. I think being mentally ready to play and physically capable of playing at the top level of the game are much bigger hurdles.

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by Section 312 on Feb 3, 2011 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree.

He needs to have the hunger and the drive to do it.
But I have a feeling that he will want to take this last chance for the big dance.

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by AttilaS on Feb 3, 2011 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s why we need Salo and Alberts, because we can’t count on Edler anymore. Without Salo AND Edler, we will be like last year’s Sharks and Capitals.

I have to disagree on this one. Even without Salo and Edler, it looks like this:

Bieksa-Hamhuis
Ehrhoff-Alberts (or Ballard)
Ballard (or Alberts)-best of Rome/Tanev/Sweatt

That’s still ok.

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by Jevant on Feb 3, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I do agree that even without Salo AND Edler, we are much better than last year. But last year we were atrocious on the D. The question remains: is the improved D still enough, if we subtract Salo and Edler at the same time?

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by AttilaS on Feb 3, 2011 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think you guys would be like last year’s Sharks and Caps. You still have plenty of D without Salo and Edler and isn’t your offense producing more than last year? Your D can still let a couple in the opposing net as long as your O can cover the bill.

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by stacie7 on Feb 3, 2011 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Salo back?

I say just roll with this until we lose.

Rome’s aura? Ive seen it!

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Feb 3, 2011 1:03 PM PST reply actions  

the whole team hits more when Albert is in the lineup.

I do like the Ballard-Tannev chemistry.

I say Sweatt goes.

by Wisp on Feb 3, 2011 1:14 PM PST reply actions  

I say we pair Alberts and Sweatt together.

Spike and Chester…“hey Spike…”

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by vancitydan on Feb 3, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

TRAITORS!!!!!

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by Sean Zandberg on Feb 3, 2011 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Salo

will have all of march and half of feb/apr to get mentally ready. If he’s physically good to go the sooner he’s playing at an NHL level the better if will be for the Canucks when the playoffs start. I wouldnt be as concerned with his compete level as with his physical level. Also you cannot undervalue the ability a vet can bring to the ice just using his experience, it allows 40 years olds to still play at a high level even without the step of someone half their age.

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by mfarough on Feb 3, 2011 3:34 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah but he has said himself

repeatedly that he isn’t sure if he can do it anymore. His compete level aside if he isn’t sure he can perform at the NHL level he needs to figure it out. And it could take a while.

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by Section 312 on Feb 3, 2011 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

noone knows till they get their proverbials butts on the ice

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by mfarough on Feb 3, 2011 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

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