Is Manny Malhotra's Play Meeting Your Expectations?
by Sean Zandberg on Feb 11, 2011 6:04 PM PST
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PrintSome of us have been arguing back and forth about Manny Malhotra's play and whether or not it has been good enough (not only in general but also for his $2.5 million salary) in the comments sections. I'm taking the unpopular stance that he has not been. Why? Because I find his 19-game pointless drought to be both unfortunate and unacceptable. I think his defensive play and faceoff prowess has been excellent. So let's take a closer look at Mr. Malhotra.
FACEOFFS
Malhotra has won 62.2% of his faceoffs, which is second in the NHL in faceoff winning percentage behind Dave Steckel of Washington. Guillaume Desbiens and Rick Rypien have better faceoff stats than Manny but their sample size is too small. Comically, Tanner Glass is next on the Canucks list with a 57.1% rate (small sample size again) and more realistically, Ryan Kesler trails Money Mo with a 56.7% winning percentage. That's quite a gap there in Malhotra's favor.
Even Strength: Malhotra has won 463 of 742 faceoffs (62.4%). Best in the NHL for wins. Ryan Kesler has won 402 of 705 faceoffs (57.0%).
Power Play: Malhotra has won 36 of 54 faceoffs (66.7%). Ryan Kesler has won 90 of 136 (66.2%).
Shorthanded: Malhotra has won 116 of 192 faceoffs (60.4%). 2nd in the NHL in SH faceoff wins. Kesler has won 71 of 152 draws shorthanded (46.7%).
Like I said, his faceoff prowess is excellent.
DEFENSIVELY
Manny is currently a -1 in 55 games played where he was a +17 in 71 games with the Sharks last season. He averaged 15:37 ice time with the Sharks and is averaging 16:30 this season with Vancouver. Sweet Lord do I have to get into CORSI and QUALCOMP for this? No, I don't because not only am I not only not sold on the the whole concept but I also don't fully understand the numbers and I'm not sure if I want to. But if YOU love that stuff here you go. You may not find such favorable results there. Or maybe you will. Even if you did: when does Malhotra face the other teams' top players 5 on 5? Shorthanded, right? What about 5 on 5 where it tends to matter most? Find me those Qualcomp numbers. I'm all ears. Last time I checked Alain Vigneault likes to match top line vs top line 5 on 5.
OFFENSIVELY
The kicker. Malhotra has scored 6 goals and 17 points in 55 games this season. That's a 30.9% points-per-game pace. Last season with the Sharks he scored at a 46.5% PPG pace. The season before: a 45.5% PPG pace with Columbus. Now, I know Mike Gillis loved Malhotra's defensive abilities when he acquired him because he said so himself. But I'm sure he wanted about the same points production (30-35 points) from the guy as well. Wouldn't you? I get the whole 3rd line checking role thing, and Manny excels at it. But they also have to contribute offensively once in a while. I'm not pinning Vancouver's Line 3 offensive futility solely on him because Lord knows his longest sidekick Raffi Torres hasn't produced much in the last 19 games either. The 3rd man on that line has been a revolving door so I can't go there without pulling my hair out.
CONCLUSION
I have been very pleased with Malhotra's defensive game. I am disappointed at his offensive abilities. I know he wants to score and break the slump. You saw his shorthanded breakaway chance against Ottawa (?) and he put it right into the goalie's crest, and he was mightily disappointed. Beyond the checking abilities of line 3 there is no offence and that is unacceptable. This is only the regular season. I'm looking to the playoffs already. If you want to win a Stanley Cup, sometimes your 3rd line has to step up and win a game for you when the top 2 lines fail. It's scoring depth and it matters as the vast majority of former Cup winners has proven. They can be as defensively sound as they want but they HAVE TO chip in offensively. Perhaps that will come.
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Go read Pass it to Bulis’ take on this first if ytou haven’t, it’s excellent. And Sean, you missed his zone-start % which is absolutely ridiculous, and it is one of the main reasons his offensive stats are suffering.
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by Yankee Canuck on Feb 11, 2011 6:53 PM PST up reply actions
You weren't kidding
about that PITB post. Super detailed. It puts numbers to our general feelings on Money. Great read.
by Canuckle Head on Feb 11, 2011 7:09 PM PST up reply actions
Fantastic PITB post
Kinda biased because I was always thought Manny brought more to the table than many gave him credit for, but it’s tough to defend intangibles. The PITB post highlights his contribution in no uncertain terms: Manny Malholtra does a huge percentage of the unglamouous spade work for the Canucks of Vancouver, and he does it very, very well. What’s a good analogy? If he was part of a pro bike road racing team, Manny’s the no-name guy who’s always at the front of the pack wearing down the opposition’s best riders and reducing the aerodynamic drag for his superstar teammates who wait for the right moment to attack.
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by reggiedunlop on Feb 11, 2011 8:58 PM PST up reply actions
It is a great post and has so much gold in it, and I love how he does free up Kesler to be more offensive but it doesn’t take away from the fact that he needs to score more. There’s no point in justifying his inability. Line 3, including MM HAS to score more. I think people are getting too caught up in the regular season and the Canucks’ current success. Wait until times get tough and guys named Sedin and Kesler get shut down or cool off.
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by Sean Zandberg on Feb 11, 2011 9:12 PM PST up reply actions
A little less worried, I guess.
1st overall team in NHL in goal scoring, that line should score, but I don’t know about HAS to…you know.
Not when they are doing the other things. I get where you are coming from, just don’t worry as much.
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Chicago’s 3rd line may have been the difference maker in the playoffs, but I’d like to know how many goals they scored and which ‘Nucks line had the worst goal differential against the Hawks. If you combine the increased offensive zone starts for Hank and Kes’s lines, maybe it’s enough for Manny’s line to just concentrate on keeping the puck out of their own net.
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by reggiedunlop on Feb 11, 2011 9:31 PM PST up reply actions
I’m out-voted 2-1 right now.
I think Manny has brought a lot to the table. Goal scoring from him would be nothing more than a bonus. When you play the rest of the game the way he does, and was brought here for, he gets a pass from me.
I like to think the behind the scenes stuff is where he really pays off. Mentoring the younger guys on the team,etc…
I really don’t think it’s a fluke our faceoff % has gone through the roof since he startied giving the guys tutorials. Not a sexy stat by any means, but it means puck control and more scoring opportunities for than against.
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To add to that, I’ve also heard another point from a lot of the players. He’s a big reason why the teams attitude has changed this year and everyone holds each other accountable for their actions in the dressing room. They are more vocal with each other and talk to each other about their games because he encourages it in the room. It would be great if he’d pot a couple, but I’ve been happy with his play so far, and think he’s been well worth his contract both on, and off the ice.
by sunshine and lollipops on Feb 12, 2011 12:06 AM PST up reply actions
Hello, this is my fiest comment on NM… I had to register to comment on that one!
He is the hart and soul of the PK, doesn’t get PP time, and the reason why Kes can be top-3 league scorer, hell yes, he’s earning his paycheck!
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by Yankee Canuck on Feb 11, 2011 6:46 PM PST up reply actions
DOES. NOT. STOP. MOVING. HIS. FEET.
it’s too bad he doesn’t weigh 230, because he’s really taken the forechecking thing to heart.
by Passive Voice on Feb 11, 2011 9:57 PM PST up reply actions
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Feb 11, 2011 7:35 PM PST up reply actions
WHAT DID I DO NOW?!
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Feb 11, 2011 7:57 PM PST up reply actions
You know how it is
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Don’t care what PITB says, or anyone else judging Money on his points alone.
The guy was brought here for all the other things. He has supplied them. The Canucks are a 1st place team.
From what I have seen, he still gives it every game, so thats basically it.
The man did not lose whatever offensive talent he has, he is just in a slump. But unlike snipers that go in s;lumps, he is not a hindrance…but still a boon to the team in other ways.
In other words…sounds a bit like nitpicking if we are beating up on him for doing exactly what we ask of him…
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Don’t care what PITB says, or anyone else judging Money on his points alone.
If that’s what PITB is saying, then I misread them…
So don't get violent and don't get caught with your head down, the night she stole the moon.
by thelastjohnny on Feb 11, 2011 7:19 PM PST up reply actions
I have to be honest. Did not read it. Just read above where it was referred to. My mistake.
Still, I do find judging Manny based on his points is not the whole picture. Should have chose better words there maybe…
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PITB
Wasn’t judging him on his points, they were saying he has taking the tough competition to open Kesler up to score more, basically
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I read the PITB post and like I said before I don’t care and still stand by my opinion
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by Sean Zandberg on Feb 11, 2011 8:06 PM PST up reply actions
While I was never thrilled with his cap hit, if thats what it took to get him away from SJ (a likely 2nd or 3rd round playoff opponent) I think it was money well spent. Sammy and May-Ray make the same amount and I think he’s contributed as much or possibly more to the teams’ success than those 2.
He wins draws, makes the players around him better (Hansen), adds to the leadership core, plays the PK and those skills are going to pay dividends in a few months. Its not like we r paying 2.5 for ryan johnson here.
I abstain from this procedure because Malhotra is a part of the awesome party squad and cannot be undermined by mere mortal complaints about his scoresheet. Also Kyle Wellwood sucks.
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by Yankee Canuck on Feb 11, 2011 6:46 PM PST reply actions 5 recs
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You da man Mike.
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I like this
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kyle wellwood is also awesome.
by Passive Voice on Feb 11, 2011 9:59 PM PST up reply actions
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he sucks!
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by Yankee Canuck on Feb 11, 2011 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
flagged to hell, you SOB
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by Sean Zandberg on Feb 11, 2011 10:05 PM PST up reply actions
I’d love to see more goals out of the third line, especially come playoff time, but I’m with vancitydan on this one.
Also, does anyone have any idea how many games ago Samuelsson was moved up to the 2nd line? I would imagine that Malhotra’s slump wouldn’t have reached 19 games with a shooter on the wing.
Funnily enough, combined, Hansen and Torres have one less shot on goal than Samuelsson does!
Samulesson was already there and the line still sucked
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by Sean Zandberg on Feb 11, 2011 8:08 PM PST up reply actions
I'm sure I'm not the only one
who basically agrees with both of these options. Money is doing a great job with his primary responsibilities. We didn’t bring him in to score, and he’s not being put in a position to be an offensive juggernaut. That doesn’t mean I agree with the notion that any offense he provides is a “bonus.” He’s unquestionably asked to be a defense first guy, but he does still need to chip in a few here and there. I’d still take what he’s giving us at the pricetag we agreed to, but I think it’s fair to expect a bit more production.
Agreed. I was just saying its a slump. Slumps are like that.
Its not like he has no offensive talent, it probably just feels that way to him.
One will go in off his ass and the slump will be a distant memory.
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At first I was firmly in the "Don't care, keep winning faceoff plz" camp
But I thought about it for a while, and kept your point about the 3rd line having to come through in the playoffs sometimes.
Money is money when it comes to defense and faceoffs.
I would like if he scored.
Im not complaining right now because we’re number one in EVERYTHING and fucking TORCHING EVERYONE.
But come playoffs, please score some goals Money.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Feb 11, 2011 7:38 PM PST reply actions
I think playoffs is a time when a player like Money kicks it up an extra notch. Ton of heart.
We will see…
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I hope so :)
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by Sean Zandberg on Feb 11, 2011 8:09 PM PST up reply actions
3-3 Hawks/Stars 2 min left
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Flames
Just went up 4-3 on the Ducks
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SO
Toews, Ribeiro with all-world moves in the SO, Ribeiro’s wins it for Dallas
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by reggiedunlop on Feb 11, 2011 8:22 PM PST up reply actions
Fowler scored in O/T to kill Flames 5-4 very nice goal, but JBo went to Selanne when Fowler was the man, gave him a crease, and the kid slammed it upstairs…
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Right on track.
Manny was given a role and he is performing exactly as he is supposed to. We’ve got the most goals in the league and are tied for 3rd in goals against, obviously not stats to panic about. That PITB stat is amazing, and you’ll notice that his linemates are only a couple spots higher. They score about 13% of our goals and can probably turn it up some by burying some of the quality chances they’ve had in the last five or so games, but can live with them if they don’t. Teams are lucky to have two scoring lines, three is very rare. The playoffs are when this line is going to matter most, so lets just enjoy their defensive play for now and hope they stay healthy.
Right on track.
Manny was given a role and he is performing exactly as he is supposed to. We’ve got the most goals in the league and are tied for 3rd in goals against, obviously not stats to panic about. That PITB stat is amazing, and you’ll notice that his linemates are only a couple spots higher. They score about 13% of our goals and can probably turn it up some by burying some of the quality chances they’ve had in the last five or so games, but can live with them if they don’t. Teams are lucky to have two scoring lines, three is very rare. The playoffs are when this line is going to matter most, so lets just enjoy their defensive play for now and hope they stay healthy.
Hawks lose
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Feb 11, 2011 9:07 PM PST reply actions
WOOOO!
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by Sean Zandberg on Feb 11, 2011 9:12 PM PST up reply actions
hey
Actually not much is shocking me any more. We blew the lead, but were down 3 forwards when it happened. Those boys were dead dog tired out there in the third. I also refuse to be part of the tinfoil hat brigade (even if the refs sucked).
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If this team
were hovering around 8th place overall, I’d be calling for Malhotra to be placed on waivers.
But we’re the best team in the league, and he is certainly not a liability out there (just don’t make him play defense against Toews).
Perhaps an overpay, considering our salary cap concerns, but I can’t hate on the guy.
that shit against toews
really bothered me. it’s not like manny’s a midget. do moar werk, manuel.
by Passive Voice on Feb 11, 2011 10:01 PM PST up reply actions
Temujin is your phone fukt?
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by Sean Zandberg on Feb 11, 2011 10:08 PM PST up reply actions
Value will be in the playoffs, so my decision TBD
When do we get to do this for Mason Raymond? I’m looking forward to pointing out that Michael Grabner now has 21 goals.
somewhere the ghost of Yoata is fapping to Grabapple’s picture.
by Passive Voice on Feb 11, 2011 10:02 PM PST up reply actions
MayRay has 1 goal and 4 points in his last 4 games and is scoring at about the same pace as last year if you can believe it
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by Sean Zandberg on Feb 11, 2011 10:08 PM PST up reply actions
Kesler
Is stealing all of MayRay’s goals!!
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haha, why yes he is!
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by Sean Zandberg on Feb 12, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
Grabner is producing with a ton of minutes, and is still a sucky defensive player on a last place team ( mind you, he is a +6, so better this year too. )
I had no problem trading the guy, and just because he is doing good in Nassau is of no concern to me. That practice of judging how someone does elsewhere is a fools bet sometimes anyhow. Different team, conference, and responsibilities…
I do think the Panthers are idiots for setting him loose though.
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agreed, he gets way more offensive opportunity there. Just disgusted with MayRay’s lack of finish. Steve Kariya-esque.
NOT THAT BAD!!!
Like Sean said, same as last year.
For me, its that he is not cutting to the net as much…
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grabner would
not be anywhere near that number on the canucks. I liked grabner…we all did. But we just didn’t have the right slot for him here. Why can’t people get that? It’s not always just about points, sometimes a player could get points on one team but not another due to different placement, system, opposition…all kinds of factors.
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by Twitchy2010 on Feb 12, 2011 12:31 AM PST up reply actions
paging Jeff Tambellini
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by Section 312 on Feb 12, 2011 12:35 AM PST up reply actions
I don't know if I completely buy that.
Is Grabby really all that different from MayRay in style and function? I think they play pretty well identical roles. The same goes for Tambo. It’s all spilt milk now, but I think he’d look pretty damn good next to Kes right now.
by Canuckle Head on Feb 12, 2011 3:04 AM PST up reply actions
This is the same argument people were making about Morrison
Different division, conference, line mates, role, ice time, etc etc etc than Grabner would have had here. No way to predict what he would have done if he had stayed. But he wouldn’t be having the same year. And having the depth on D we got is/was/will be more important than having it up front.
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by Section 312 on Feb 12, 2011 7:00 AM PST up reply actions
Well yeah
he is different in that he wouldn’t be in MayRay’s place here. So if he is the same role and function and skillset as raymond, he’s completely superfluous here. And no, I don’t believe for a second the situation would be such that he’d get a slumping mayrays position…more likely scenario is we’d have a 3/4 line guy that management and fans know deserves more but has no way of getting more this year. Which is exactly what he was.
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Grabner-Kesler-Raymond. The speed line from hell for parts of last season. It was pretty good.
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by Sean Zandberg on Feb 12, 2011 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I loved that line.
Also, given how quickly FLA lost interest in the kid, I have a hard time believing he was a key piece in the Ballard deal. If they were super high on him when they negotiated the trade, I doubt he would have hit the wire quite so fast. That means we likely could have substituted a different asset fairly easily. If Grabner had been a GMMG pick, I doubt he would have been moved. I don’t understand the argument that we have room for Tambellini but not Grabby. I know it’s all water under the bridge now, but I didn’t like him being included in the trade when it happened, and I like it less now. I have a hard time believing that we couldn’t have acquired Ballard without him.
by Canuckle Head on Feb 12, 2011 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
Obviously Grabner was wanted. Just as obviously he was a bit unneeded here.
We can see his progress now in Long Island ( where he gets way more ice time , etc )…in a weaker Eastern Conf. and proclaim in hindsight ( always 20/20, isn’t it?) that Grabner should have stayed.
But no. He had his chance here. We were too deep to keep him. Fla. doing something stupid has …sometimes…little to do with hockey and other factors instead. We don’t know why they cut him loose. Maybe he told the coach to fuck off.
We know they let him loose to quickly…but I have a hard time believing that GMMG made a mistake there, or traded him because he wasn’t his own pick.
More than likely, he looked at his lineup and saw a guy that had some skills, but did not hit and back check very well. He traded him for a defenseman.
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I know why they got rid of Grabner but you’ll have to email me for the answer
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by Sean Zandberg on Feb 12, 2011 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
Super secret Austrian swear words that Gillis understood…cuz he is smart?
Sallow complexion could not handle Fla. sun?
Slept with Tallon’s daughter?
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by Sean Zandberg on Feb 12, 2011 5:55 PM PST up reply actions
Jesus
Now I’m really intrigued
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Feb 12, 2011 11:59 PM PST up reply actions
If his source is Hammer
I am sure it’s way off!!!!
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by Section 312 on Feb 13, 2011 12:22 AM PST up reply actions
Something
About California, but not
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Can you email me instead
baws pawps? :)
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by eightyseven on Feb 13, 2011 12:38 AM PST up reply actions
email us all
at least those of us who know you have our email address…
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by Twitchy2010 on Feb 13, 2011 12:43 AM PST up reply actions
I don't even know
What those last two words are supposed to be.
Boss pops??
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Check mark
Like Corn Pops, but gangster.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
by eightyseven on Feb 13, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
yes it is! haha.
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by Sean Zandberg on Feb 11, 2011 10:18 PM PST up reply actions
100%
Accurate!
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I think this one is a better example
;)
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no doubt its good
but the one I displayed
1) Had Money himself in it
2) Resulted in a goal
3) Prevented the Flames from setting up with 6 attackers with a set play in the Vancouver zone in a close game. Even had Burrows not scored, that was a key faceoff which preserved the Canucks lead in a tight game near the end.
True
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