Canucks At Kings Recap ; New Years Slapshot Style (4-1L)
Darryl Sutter used to coach in the Federal League, didn't you know? A fun way to ring in 2012 huh?
NHL ( their recap...click around there later and I am sure they will give you the clips. )
- You don't get the Full Monty recap tonight folks, as its a holiday, and honestly, I don't really feel like getting into a whole "Canucks are not tough enough", or "Run the Sedins for fun and profit" schtick like Mark Lee was trying to sell at high volume. I will say this. I love Cassie Campbell. She played high standard hockey, and she was right. Her discounting of Lee's continual desire to couch the game in terms like that was wonderful to see. She can definitely stay. He should definitely go. Not so much because he seems to have a negative thing for the Canucks, we are used to embracing that shit. But because he is inept. He is behind the play, gets things wrong constantly, and yells incoherently at the wrong times. Come on CBC. If my tax dollars are going to be spent on this, at least give me someone that I am not scrambling to find a way to mute and sync up the radio to avoid.
- Where do you start? Well, like Cassie pointed out, the slewfoot on Henrik Sedin when Dustin Brown is a good place to start. That sure looked like something that they got together on beforehand. Or perhaps Mike Richards was skating by at "just" the right time in an act of serendipity. Not to make it about the refs, but they blew it on several occasions tonight. That one time was the start though. Not calling that attempt to injure the captain sort of put a tone to the game. ( FTR, it is about the only play I am still steaming about. I doubt Mike Gillis reads NM, but if he did, Please Mike, throw some weight around at the league for that one. Its an attempt to injure a superstar, and again, its not "tough". Its dirty. Big Frank throws enough money into the revenue sharing pot. He should get something for his ...and our ...millions!)
- Thats fine. I love physical hockey. Henrik did not complain in his interview between periods. Same with the hit by Richardson after a goal. Dale Hunter got suspended for a long time for doing something similar to a guy ( albeit the guy that scored, its not totally the same ), but that was Hansen Brothers bullshit again.
- For all that, let us not make this game about whether the Canucks stood up. They did, all night. It is not their fault that the refs were calling it the way they were. Also, let us not get all Chicken Little about it either. Honestly, I think the team got a little surprised at the dirty play at first, but they pushed back just fine. Part of our teams' game is to make them pay on the power play. It went 0 for 4. Part of that was the way it was called on the ice. I always feel it is tough for us to get the full "nuances" of the game on TV in that regard as well. As 24/7 has taught us, there is a lot of conversation on the ice. I do think Burrows getting the only call on one play for protecting Daniel Sedin could have been evened up, and that the refs definitely blew it when they gave Keith Ballard a minor after Richardson's oh so tough ( thats the thing people, its not tough. THESE refs let some shit go. The next two might have an entirely different take, and penalize the dirty play more...there is not much you can do but try to play through it and win on the PP. The Canucks did the former, but could not make the latter work tonight. )
- Enough about that. The Kings won because the Canucks did not wake up to the roughhouse tactics soon enough, and looked a little tired. Kudos to the Kings. They played hard. They deserved the win, even with the shenanigans. They had a huge edge in shots after one ( 15-7) dominated the faceoffs (16-7 after one, 26-15 after two, and 37-23 overall ) Roberto Luongo was not the problem either. He kept his team in it long enough, they just could not capitalize on their chances. Perhaps a goal when Edler hit the post when they were on the PP and it was 3-1 could have changed things...maybe not.
- The wags will go after the second goal, but that looked like bad luck ( losing the stick, and having Ballard handing him his at the exact time Greene shot the puck ). The third goal was a close play at the line, but onside I hear ( though CBC never once showed us the replay ), and Kopitar waited Luongo out. It was not "he went down on his belly and it went in". That is the quickest way he could get across, and the defenders played that horribly as well. There were defensive lapses all over the ice for the Canucks, but especially in their own end. Lui may have covered a few pucks better at times that led to chances and a goal, but the defenders have to do a better job of locating the puck and clearing it. Even on the second goal that came froma loose puck, Daniel Sedin had a chance to clear and went for a little pass that was checked instead.
- Finally. Stop diving Drew Doughty. I read the comments in the game thread, and was aghast to see a couple comments about Ryan Kesler staying down too long after his chin was split open. It made me shake my head a bit. That tends to hurt, and he was bloodied pretty good, not trying to get a call. The Doughty one on Raymond was just embarrassing. He once again sucked a ref in and laughed about it later. This is not the same player I saw at the 2010 Games and thought was a stud defenseman. Its a player fast getting a rep as a huge diver, and someone that instead of using his many talents, is taking the easy way. Referees look at the games with their bosses, and you can bet that Brian Pochmara and Kelly Sutherland ( decent enough refs usually, but they will get a less than passing grade from Terry Gregory or whomever evaluates their work ) will notice the splay out after minimal stick contact by Raymond and know they got snookered. When even Cassie Campbell is calling you on it on National TV Drew, you have a problem. Maybe you can get a few sessions with "Dr. Drew " and work it out...maybe get on his TV show...
- Happy New Years one and all. Embrace The Hate and all that. Have a safe and happy holiday. You can bet that the team will be up for the next one at home versus the Sharks. Expect another physical game. Something tells me that the NHL will make sure ( or at least try to ) that this one is a bit more in control. Federal League hockey is not the best way to sell the game....and that one is on at 5 pm our time. I would assume that means it gets more exposure back East. Unless they secretly want a gong show!
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Finally I understand the Hansen reference
so thanks!
I think the Canucks just got outworked tonight. The Kings did a really good job of keeping our chances to the outside, getting sticks in passing lanes, and laying in on the forecheck. And our coverage was pretty poor for stretches of the game, so that didn’t help.
Regarding Kesler, I was a bit skeptical until I saw the replay that he had actually been hit. The initial angle was poor. And though I am a huge Kes fan, I will be honest and say that I think he is one of those guys that tries too hard to sell the call sometimes. It sometimes seems as if he is exaggerrating or complaining, throwing up his arms or flicking his head back. So his rep had me a little skeptical. But then I saw the replay and saw that he had definitely been hit. So I for sure had sympathy then. High-sticking hurts like a mo-fo.
And while Kes exaggerrates sometimes, Drew is worse. I agree with you there. Not a fan.
Anywho, 3-1-0 in our last 4 is pretty good. Happy New Year all!
The continents don't drift. They back away slowly from Ryan Kesler.
What has happened to our FO% the past few games?
PP futility can be traced back to that alone. You dont win face offs, you control the puck.
good recap as usual dan
but I stick by my comment that kesler embellished the high stick. At no point did I state that I didn’t think it was a high stick, it obviously was, or that it didn’t hurt, obviously it did. But players get sticked like that every game in this league, and they don’t go down and lay down til the whistle blows then jump up and play the next shift. The only thing I regret is saying ‘dive’ instead of ‘embellishment’. Doughty’s was a dive, kesler was overacting to ensure the call. Which he often does, which drives me nuts, and is probably why players get away with so much against him.
Can anyone who watches canucks games deny that kesler gets stupidly dramatic on any contact? I’m not saying he’s a diver, he’s not…but he does make even the slightest contact against him look huge. And thats what he did last night.
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kesler was overacting to ensure the call. Which he often does, which drives me nuts, and is probably why players get away with so much against him.
Exactly. Refs, I’m sure, are aware of his behaviour. Which explains why last game he got called for unsportsmanlike conduct when he was punched. And other teams are able to play him a bit dirty because the refs aren’t necessarily going to call it.
The continents don't drift. They back away slowly from Ryan Kesler.
That speaks
more to the refs than Kesler. If he gets highsticked, then call it, embellishment or not. Pretty simple.
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by Smoboy41 on Jan 1, 2012 11:25 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
yeah
If a player’s doing something wrong, penalize him appropriately. Give him unsportsmanlike conduct for diving/embellishing or whatever when it happens….
What the refs do now is stupid and juvenile. They’re basically sulking about being made to look bad, and are saying that if they think you embellish, other players are now allowed to attempt career-ending injuries on you without consequence, even in a totally unrelated game. That’s insane, and way out of proportion to the “offense” being committed. Additionally, it leads to games getting out of hand and risks injury to players who haven’t done anything wrong at all.
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Ugh. I hate diving and embellishing. I wish they would rid the sport of it. Unfortunately it will never happen.
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 1, 2012 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
The thing is
they DID call the high stick. So, no foul there. My point had nothing to do with the high stick…it was a penalty and it was called. But if u cry that the sky is falling enough, people stop listening, right? He cries the sky falling alot. That’s all.
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here is
where I always disagree with that.
Its persepctive, perhaps, perhaps not.
But when any player ( like say Toews, the Canadian counter to our Real American ) goes all out and that includes “trying to get the call”, like any good and great player does. They all did it in the past. They all did it in the future. Wayne Gretzky was a master of the head snap ) does it, they are lauded for their “gamesmanship”.
Perhaps it was Kes’s start as a 3rd line agitator, I don’t know. But I always find it a bit much when a guy like Kes is singled out. You go all out, sometimes that is a product of that. To wail against the actual headsnap is to wail against any other minor annoyance in a thing you love.
Its going to happen. I had zero problem with Kesler taking a few minutes when he got spiked in the face enough to split the chin pretty good. That was a skilled carve by another guy that goes all out. How do you think Kings fans feel about Richards today, you know?)
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welcome to your opinion Twitch
of course.
Totally and utterly wrong about last night, but it sounds like you have your mind made up on the guy.
Thats wrong too. Every damn player in the league would stay down with their chin split open. But again, I can’t change your opinion. I do disagree with it though
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now...HERE's a diver....
not even from last night, we all saw that….but here you go…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtyFWpEa-a4
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i think
u misunderstand me dan…i’m a kesler fan, not a hater. But I do hate seeing him flop around and get all indignant every time he’s touched, not unlike taylor hall…just not as douchey looking.
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I understood you mon frere
I am saying that every time something happens. it is not a “flop”. I would especially put a time when his chin is split open drawing blood.
I get what you are saying. I don’t like that aspect of the game either. But it just annoys me that every time someone falls to the ice, its a “flop”, you know?
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not at all
How YOU doin’?
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I for one hope we don't see l.a. In the playoffs
Not that the canucks couldn’t win a 7 game series, obviously they could bur they just dont’t match up well against l.a. Especially when the refs put away their whistles in the playoffs. If doughty gets in shape by the playoffs that’s a dangerous team.
I had a feeling/thought during that game that there’s a good chance we do meet them in the playoffs
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 1, 2012 7:35 PM PST up reply actions
I'll take
San Jose Chicago or Detroit before them please.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 2, 2012 12:34 AM PST up reply actions
I disagree
I don’t think LA is in the same class as Chicago and probably not Detroit either. LA is very motivated right now with a new coach and caught a tired and disinterested Canuck team. In the playoffs I suspect the Canucks will bring a lot more intensity and beat LA in six.
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Disinterested or frustrated?
I agree that LA is a tier below Chicago when you look at the NHL but I meant how the Canucks match up. Intensity is not what they need, they were plenty intense last game. In fact, what they need is the opposite. They need to keep it cool and play their game.
by Canuckelhead on Jan 2, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions

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