Canucks At Blues Recap ; Getting There (3-2L)
The trials and travails of being a fan of this star crossed team huh? I swear, Rogers Arena is on sacred ground or something. There will be all sorts of kvetching and moaning about "how the team is doing". Endless couch coaching and dissecting the new lines that came out for this one.
It's what we do. I thought there were a few things to be happy about. I thought Luongo could have had one of those, and that he made the save on the winner. Evidently you are allowed to do that though. Maybe the ref saw the puck, who knows? It is a judgement call and we did not get the judgement on that one. Moving on... All three goals were a result of the Blues crashing the net, and the Canucks were pretty inept on defense on all of them. At the risk of being dubbed too positive on him, Luongo was pretty good overall. There, I said it.
In honour of meeting our favorite friends the Chicago Blackhawks on Sunday in a game that will get some nice hype, a SCH style bullet points of rant and reasoning after the break.
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- I hope that there is a good report on the injury blotter in regards to Alexandre Burrows. Nefarious AMFB got himself a goal off a steal, but that hit from Chris Stewart looked like it could have got the shoulder. In his 7:26 TOI, a goal, 3 shots, another wide, and a block. Move him to the Kesler line and it goes, The Sedins looked less in sync with Beaker as well, though they got better in the third. Edit ; ( AV said in the presser after it was "back spasms" and "day to day" )
- Cody Hodgson was a -2, but seems to be getting there in his assent to regular NHLer status. He looked dangerous at times. That being said, Grizz' did not look all that great tonight. The melding of these two with a coming off injury KesLord may or may not be a be a concern with the "Line Blender" that was used before, during, and undoubtably after this one. For the record, I liked most of the lines in spurts. The loss of Burrows hurt, and Booth not being able to take a fucking pass did not help. It is funny that the new guy seems to be pressing and the young guy looks more calm every game.
- The Canucks let the Blues get garbage and lucky goals all night by going to far past their checks, or not reading the play very well in front of Luongo all night. Its hard to not bitch, I know LuongoLOL folk. Not a one looked like a very graceful goal, and he got some bad luck. But when forwards and defensemen both react to a turnover down low like that, it is not fair to blame the goalie too. AV made a point of talking about how the Blues were better in front of their own net than the Canucks were in front of their own. T.J Oshie made some good reads and found the space, but come on guys. They are the guys in the other colour. Take someone.
- Andrew Alberts would like you to politely ( he is from Minnesota, the Canadian State ) tell Don Cherry to go fornicate a goat with his "not paying the price "schtick. Of the 13 blocks the Canucks had, he had almost half with 6. He also had 3 hits, and together with Keith Ballard and Alexander Sulzer were the only defenders to finish even.
- Speaking of which, Sulzer deserves a cool nickname that belies how calm he is out there. There was more than one shift, but one in particular I noticed where the Blues were pressing the 4th line. Ballard made some nice plays to help, but no matter the forecheck pressure ( and the Blues had a kick ass forecheck tonight ), the puck was either passed, chipped off the glass, or feathered to the forward on the break. He showed a hard and accurate shot with the 3 on the net, and even fooled Henrik Sedin by outthinking even the Passing Magician himself on one shift of Sedin pressure. It was no mistake that the Sedin line looked most dangerous when they were out with #4 and #52. Hell, once Luongo fed him a ridiculous pass that he was not expecting, and when he was under heavy pressure right away. He just muttered "Ach De Lieber", found Ballard, and away they went... Something German perhaps, with undertones of awesomeness. It will have to be pondered more, but he just might be another defender someone gave up on too early. I know our cool NM bunch will come up with something.
- Ryan Kesler had a goal, 3 shots and a hit. But he took two minors, one a lazy hook that was just , well, un Lordly. He finished up 7 of 13 on draws, and no one can deny his level of try. His crashing the net led to both goals for the visitors. But he is still not at 100%. Perhaps the added motivation of playing Toews and his boys will get him over that hump.
- Booth struggled tonight, and the fight was probably more frustration than needed, but that being said, that may be just what he needed to break his little "new guy" slump before the nattering nabobs make that a "thing". The guy struggled tonight though. Missed the net on a breakaway for God's sake, ( 2 of his 4 shot attempts hit the net ), and a takeaway. But he did the same as his Detroit buddy and took a lazy, dumb tripping call in this one as well. That shit don't fly here in Vancouver Grizz'. Have to break you of those lazy Florida habits.
- Maxim Lapierre should see some times with the Sedins. Then, he can take over Bieksa's place on the blue line, and once he catches his breath, go out and try and jumpstart Kesler, Booth, or anyone else that needs it. He had 1 of his 2 shots attempts on net, and an egregious 1 of 6 on draws. But in a hard hitting game, he led his team with 4 hits, his speed was on display all night. It is funny, the jump start to any line used to come from Beaker.
- Jannik Hansen. Had the lucky lotto ticket and played with the Twins, and they showed some merit. A -1, 2 shots, a block and 2 takeaways just does not seem to fill up the stats sheet as much as Nerfarious AMFB did in almost ten minutes less. The guy that used to put a charge in any line needs to get back to hitting, aggravating, and using that speed straight ahead. In my one act of couch coaching, I am calling for the guy that has the shot, supposedly, and the speed and creativity, we were told, David Booth to get the 1st line duties. Hansen can use his talents in a more straight ahead manner with any of the other lines. Even with Grizz' struggling, putting him with the Twins is the right move AV. I can feel it..
So, this one was better than the tail between your legs, get the Hell outta Dodge BS of the Minny one. But a loss is a loss. The Hawks at least got to O/T tonight. They have a better record than you do right now as well Canucks. I hear Patrick Sharp is calling out the new guy's looks as well, and Kane said now that he is centre, he has a whole new book on Luongo. You going to take that shit laying down guys? Huh?
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I still don't get the issue people are having with the
Blues 3rd goal. Was never covered up. Trickled across the line before Backes even got a piece of Luongo.
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by Section 312 on Nov 4, 2011 9:00 PM PDT reply actions
It truly is a sometimes you get the call thing
sometimes you don’t. Lui obviously felt he had it long enough. To be fair to him, I have seen that whistled as often as I have not seen it. They did not get the whistle tonight is all.
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If roles were reversed
we’d scream bloody murder if that goal wasn’t given.
I was banned from Bleed Cubbie Blue because my sig had the word "fuck" in it and I wasn't willing to change it nor was I willing to let Al Yellon access my account and make changes to my sig (which he did) so watch out for that ego maniac and his tyrannical ways.
by Section 312 on Nov 4, 2011 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah that was a good goal. Backes does a really good job poking the puck in as it drops to Luongo’s feet. Luongo never really had control of it.
I didn’t really get to watch much of the game but it seems to me that the defense has been shit so far. I can’t believe that I might actually be looking forward to the return of Rome. Any word on how long Salo is out?
Why wasn't Backes on his butt
More importantly why did Backes have all that time with to Canucks standing their watching. Wouldn’t be suprised if a Canuck pointed the puck out to Backes. Hey theirs the puck why don’t you jab at it we won’t touch you really go ahead and go for it we are afraid of you
this
our D are too cool to protect the goalie, apparently.
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notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
I thought it was a good goal too
just pointing out that there are a good many times when a goalie gets that whistle. I thought he held it just long enough. By his reaction, so did he. But like I said, sometimes you get that call, sometimes not. He did not, and it cost the winning goal.
Not a one of their goals was a masterpiece though, and every one could have been prevented by protecting their goalie better. The Sedins did not have the best night in their own end…but then again, neither did Edler and Hamhuis, two of our “best”.
Bottom line, not blaming the ref. I am blaming the defenders for all being back in time, collapsing to the net just fine, and still not taking anyone well enough!
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Bottom line, not blaming the ref. I am blaming the defenders for all being back in time, collapsing to the net just fine, and still not taking anyone well enough!
I agree with this 100%. Get back and protect your goalie!
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notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
Nice writeup Dan. My thing isn’t so much about individuals in the last few games, as it is about the team and their effort in general. It hasn’t been about any one area on the ice. Losing battles and taking lazy penalties because of it is taking it’s toll. Simple missed assignments in prime scoring areas resulted in two goals against tonight.
Injuries and line movements never make anything easier, but are definitely no excuse for the laclustre play we’ve seen lately.
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On a positive note
Alex Steen was finally held off the scoresheet.
I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?
Looking forward to sundays game so much
But that’s because I’m a hawks fan.
by SludgeFeast on Nov 4, 2011 11:36 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I’ll assume this isn’t trollish and and agree with you 100%
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Agreed. It’s going to be great…love the hate the 2 teams have for each other. I expect both teams to play hard.
For the Canucks, there’s nothing like playing your mortal enemy to light a fire under your asses.
This year.
Goaltender is a normal job. Sure. How would you like it if at your job, every time you made the slightest mistake a little red light went on over your head and 18,000 people stood up and screamed at you? - Jacques Plante
Que?
In summing up, it's the Constitution, it's Mabo, it's justice, it's law, it's the vibe and... No, that's it, it's the vibe. I rest my case
He is saying that if the players
get up for the Hawks game and show up and play the game the way we know they can because they are playing a rival then it shows that AV has lost the room and that he is no longer able to motivate the players they are simply doing their own thing.
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by Section 312 on Nov 5, 2011 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions
and if they look like garbage
and get trashed?
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notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
clarification
this is a serious question
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notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
My biggest fear is a game like last night
we keep it reasonably close but don’t play very good and don’t really play terribly either.
I accept my ban from Bleed Cubbie Blue and hold no ill will towards Al Yellon for making that decision. He did access my account and change my signature now on THREE occasions. SBN users should know that some admins will abuse their power and access your accounts to make changes.
by Section 312 on Nov 5, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Than we have a bigger problem
Cause maybe nothing will motivate these players.
by Canuckelhead on Nov 5, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
you could look up and see a cloud formed into a circle
…and see it as “proof AV has to go”! ;-)
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You get my point right?
I’m not sure why most people can’t agree with me. He’s been here a long time, longer than most coaches and it’s so crystal clear that attitude has been the biggest problem with the Canucks. Also, how can you make the Penguin comparison but leave out the coaching change?
by Canuckelhead on Nov 5, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
so basically
you’re saying if they win, AV needs to be fired, and if they lose, AV needs to be fired? In other words, there is no way around it in your mind?
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Yes
In my mind, my point was trying to prove to the doubters. If somehow you’ve missed the Canucks mental collapses, as a result of what I believe is an attitude (broad I know) problem. Then maybe the fact that they can get up for games against the caps and Hawks but not the Blues or Wild will sway you my way.
by Canuckelhead on Nov 5, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
HAWKS fan looking forward
to Sunday’s game. HAWKS have something to prove after last seasons playoffs and canucks really need this win. Should be a great game!!
CoHo
I wonder what Hodgson would look like with the Sedins. Too little speed and even more passing? He has the hands and sense to be in the right kinds of places—and I can only imagine the kind of mayhem a Grizz/Kes/Burr line would create. Especially if Burrows can kickstart Booth.
I hadn't thought of it
But, I could definitely, get behind that.
by Canuckelhead on Nov 5, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
The sedins
need a net presence guy…not a passer/playmaker. That’s why booth and hodgson aren’t really the right guys. Lapierre could do it, but frankly I prefer to keep him on three/four and make that line sizzle rather than fizzle without him. It has to fall on hansen in the absence of burrows…hansen, kesler, burrows are the net crashing dirty areas guys, and u can’t move kesler from 2. MAYBE Hodgson could learn to be that guy, but do we want to lose the time while he learns the position? I don’t think so. Hansen needs to get his mojo back and the canucks need to get burrows back, that simple.
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Fair enough
He had Hansen on that line before Burr went down tho right?
by Canuckelhead on Nov 5, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Hansen as net presence guy?
I’d think Booth would be better at that
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It's scary
Just how good the Hawks are looking this year.
I am hoping whatever these lazy issues the Nucks are having they figure it out and
get their shit together. Of course, I’d rather have them excel and blossom in Feb and March when it really matters.
On a side note, some Leafs fans act like they are already playing for the Stanley Cup.
Can’t wait for that crash and burn and injuries to come because you know it is.
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by HockeyFanInColorado on Nov 5, 2011 7:58 AM PDT reply actions
The photo above Booth looks like
uh, how do I put this?

Cory F'n Schneider - Canucks #1 goalie.
Kokosnötter, gå!
Ah, THAT"S what it reminded me of. I should do a PS collage of movies involving big hair and use that Booth pic repeatedly.
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by Sean Zandberg on Nov 5, 2011 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Even with Grizz’ struggling, putting him with the Twins is the right move AV. I can feel it..
You know it!
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Nope
Down to play with Lapierre
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It’s going to happen eventually. If the losing continues and Burr is out longer than anticipated
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by Sean Zandberg on Nov 5, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
so um...
here’s an interview with Mark Spector done by an Oilers blog. Not even sure what the hell to say anymore…
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that was a good read. He’s entitled to his opinion. I give up hating. The Canucks are too soft though. It’s true. Up front: too soft.
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by Sean Zandberg on Nov 5, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
huh
u know, I agree with like 85% of what spector said in there (OMFG DID I JUST SAY THAT??? FUCK ME, SHOOT ME NOW!)…although I’m not sure why he still gives burrows the diver tag…maybe daniel or kesler fits that better, in my opinion.
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Oh
so its lazy as well. Kes and all the rest. Giving that shit any more credence just encourages the fuckers anyhow.
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thanks for the recap
I don’t want to give him any more clicks…you know? My own personal boycott. Its just so…well, yeah. Entitled to his opinion, as I am entitled to not read or even notice anything Marc Spector is involved in…
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it's not that bad dan
a few spectorish gems, but for the most part, he says ‘canuck fans need to calm the fuck down on luongo, and that team is by far good enough to win the cup’.
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Oh, that one? I read that. The last thing from him I did. He did that in the most arrogant, I am smarter than you attitude I have seen this side of Damien Cox...
I am just done with even acknowledging his arrogant looking down over his glasses at anything Canuck.
The guy was a hack a long time ago, he is a hack now, and its been one of his most enduring storylines his entire career. Poking the Canuck Bear with a stick.
So, whether he makes a good point or two occasionally is kinda moot for me.
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Agreed
If you click through you’re just giving him exactly what he set out to do. Which is say something he knows is controversial to get attention. It’s controversy for the sake of attention. You call out any fanbase and they are going to react. It’s a cheap way to get attention and it’s working which sucks.
by Canuckelhead on Nov 5, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I don't really see what the problem is there.
That “Open Letter to Canucks fans” was garbage, and I’m far from a Spector fan, but I didn’t really take any issue with this interview. I actually agree with most of what he said, and he managed to not take quite as many pot-shots at Vancouver as he’s normally accustomed to.
I get it
there are things wrong with the Canucks. Some of the fans are idiots. We know all this. It’s his condescending attitude, and the fact that he doesn’t attack any other team or fan base. He is a troll hiding behind his job title. I hate that I get sucked in on this shit, but seriously, you should have seen him at the Finals, nearly jumping up and down as he awaited Burnside to ask a question to someone (it was either Luongo or AV I can’t recall). He was cackling… And then he slaps my arm when the question got asked… made me wanna puke.
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by Sean Zandberg on Nov 5, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
shhhh… I don’t wanna jinx anything in case they make it again. :p
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I was about to ask
why didn’t you punch his lights out. He looks like a scrawny little troll anyways.
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Any new
on Burrows’ injury?
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Nov 5, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh here we go again
"You could argue that maybe Roberto Luongo’s contract could end up being a bad contract for the Vancouver Canucks," ESPN.com hockey analyst Craig Custance said. "He’s a guy who still hasn’t proven he can win a Stanley Cup, and he’s being paid like one of the best goalies in the league."
I didn’t know you had to be one to be the other
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thanks for bringing that to my attention. I was looking for someone to unfollow anyhow.
entitled to his opinion though. Just a shame when supposed “media” guys all take the same “story” and run with it. I expect his next story will be how the Canucks are the “most hated team in hockey”.
sigh
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You lost me at the "ESPN.com hockey analyst Craig Custance" part
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by Yankee Canuck on Nov 5, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
it should say "expert" or "insider" right? ;-/
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Custance, you're idiocy is showing :X
I really don’t understand how Luongo, an elite athlete will be able to excel in the current environment if it continues like this.
After sleeping it off, I feel that maybe it is time for AV to go…AV made 2 massive mistakes out of indifference last night:
1. Didn’t talk to the refs about Steen’s highstick on Hamhuis drawing blood. We would have spent the rest of the game on the PP. As far as I saw, he didn’t even argue the call.
2. Retreated to the dressing room when there was clearly time to be put back on the clock for 1 more crack… looking back on it, Bieksa got to that icing with at least 1.2 seconds left. He should’ve been arguing.
Believe me, I love AV, but at this point, to me at least, it looks like he’s lost the team. I guess we’ll find out tomorrow if the Canucks get up to play the Hawks. You can’t get back to the SCF by just winning against good teams.
Interesting points. But the team`s play is what has me concerned
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by Sean Zandberg on Nov 5, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I think for #1
The stick has to break the skin…someone biting their tongue or cheek and drawing blood wouldn’t result in the 4 minutes, else we’d end up seeing everyone bite their cheek when they got sticked to draw the extra 2.
for #2 it doesn’t matter, they wouldn’t put 1.2 seconds back on, and frankly I thought .4 was generous. Bieksa didn’t show any real urgency to get to that puck, and frankly if I was the coach I’d be thinking about which strip to tear off of him for that, or at least trying to calm myself down before I had to talk to him. But yes, he definitely shouldn’t have left.
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ps
someone correct me if i’m wrong on #1…I was using logic, and we all know how logic flies in the NHL rule book…
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are you a vampire?
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irrelevant
but young depressed chicks with black eye makeup have been known to think i’m the bomb.
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I'm still suspicious

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