The Canucks' "Goaltending Controversy" Continues
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 27, 2011 3:19 AM PST
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PrintControversy: A dispute, especially a public one, between sides holding opposing views.
The only goaltending controversy with the Vancouver Canucks is with the fans of the team. It has been going on for a long time and isn't about to go away any time soon. Not in this critical hockey-mad market. There is no hate for Cory Schneider. That is generally reserved for Roberto Luongo. And with Schneider winning 4 straight games and being on a massive hot streak, the gasoline has been thrown on the fire, again. I started reading some comments on Twitter tonight and had to stop before I pulled out a knife and scalped myself. By the way, Lou had won 3 of his last 4 starts before his upper body injury. The team defence had not even gotten it's collective act together like they have now on their current winning streak.
Look,
and I am going to try to keep this as short as possible, rather than grumble over Luongo's past failures, his salary, expectations, etc, only one word matters at this point: WINNING. And now, more than ever, you can see that Canucks management is focused on it. I am still in shock that they even started Schneider against the Sharks. I am so used to Alain Vigneault going with the money goalie (Luongo) at almost any cost. But no, for the first time in Luongo's tenure here, the coach decided to ride the hot backup goaltender instead. What was that little factoid I saw on Hockey Night In Canada last night? Luongo had not been a healthy backup in consecutive games since the 2000-01 season? Holy macaroni! What a dramatic development we have here in Vancouver! I hope this trend continues all season long. Ride the hot goalie. Imagine now how much Luongo is going to have to be ready to kick some ass whenever he plays next? That's how it SHOULD BE.
WINNING.
No more double standards, hopefully. Even the goalies earn playing time in Vancouver now. Perfect! It's a healthy inner competition that pays off. What's this talk about this lack of playing time affecting Luongo's fragile psyche? If that is true then he doesn't even deserve to play in this league. I saw a cheerful Lou on the bench against the Sharks. He wasn't sulking. He'll be ready.
WINNING.
Now having said that, let your voice be heard! Does AV go with his #1 money goalie in Luongo or does he ride the Schneid until further notice?
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Shouldn't be surprised
that Schneider started against the Sharks. Remember he won both starts against the Sharks last year.
Enjoying .500 hockey this year.
And Luongo
won 4 out of 5 in the playoffs against the Sharks. I think it had more to do with the back to back shutouts than anything that happened last season.
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and so it should have
Luongo was getting groin before the Injury, but Schneider was playing some really good hockey these past few games.
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notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
Luongo was getting groin before the Injury,
How does his sex life come into this?
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by Twitchy2010 on Nov 27, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
very important
the more sex he gets, the better he plays
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notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
I would say
you ride the hot hand until that changes, or at the very least we kick the Wild out of the #1 spot in the NW.
until he got hurt
he was the hot hand. Luongo starts against Columbus.
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Ride the hot goalie man, all the way. I don’t see it as a knock against Luongo. Like you said Sean, you want time between the pipes? Earn it. This is pushing both goalies to be on top of their game, EVERY GAME. These two have proved that they can win the Jennings, and they can bloody well do it again.
This whole thing makes me so angry. I’ve got friends saying that Schneids is making Lou look like the backup pylon he should be, not even remembering that #1 was injured a few of those games. Logic and rational thinking don’t even factor into these people.
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that's the part that drives me mental
Not people cheering for Schneider or wanting him to start after he posted back to back starts. That all makes sense to me. The maddening thing is when people start talking like luongo is this scrub goalie. I saw someone say “now that Vancouver has a goalie, they have a real shot” what!? We’re talking about a guy who has been consistently great for most of his long career that’s why he’s one of the top 10 highest paid goalies in the league.
by Canuckelhead on Nov 27, 2011 9:06 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions 2 recs
This is what really bugs me
I love Cory Schneider, great goalie, great guy. I love it when people get behind him and ride him (hehehehe) but to suggest Luongo is anything other than an elite goalie is completely absurd.
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notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
by Canuckles on Nov 27, 2011 9:28 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Whenever I think of the Luschneidian dilemma
I find myself looking at the big picture: we have two solid, SOLID goalies right now. Don’t worry, be happy. I don’t understand how some fans (not NMers, obv.) can be so fickle. It’s a quarter of the way into the season. A lot of hockey is left. Don’t worry, be happy!
I say go with the hot goalie. Like sean said it will just put more of a pressure on the other goalie to play even better, and I think whoever is sitting will play better
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by kiyotok on Nov 27, 2011 9:02 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Since when did Cory Schneider
being a good goalie come to mean that Roberto Luongo is a bad one? It’s a bit like my kids asking what my favourite food is. To them, as five years old, that means that I don’t like anything other than what I choose as my “favourite” and it had better be the same as theirs. Let’s celebrate the fact that the Canucks have two very good goalies [sorry Luongo haters but the numbers say you are wrong] and that greatly enhances our chances of success. Roberto Luongo is so competitive and his game was coming around so nicely at the time of the injury that I would bet he performs like a star when he returns. I think he should start against Columbus but if AV doesn’t agree, well, there is no wrong answer to this one.
You took the words right out of my mouth, Sean.
Winning should be the only factor. Don’t care what his name is or how much money zillionaires are paying him, you play your hot goalie until he cools down.
That’s how you WIN!
Occupy Vancouver!
You play the hot goalie
until he falters, if he does. Then Luo can prove his worth again which he will need to do. Personally I have more faith watching our team play in front of Schneider…
by patrik e on Nov 27, 2011 9:30 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Luongo has nothing to gain from the BJs...
Schneider wins – status quo continues.
Luongo wins – BJs suck, so nothing’s really been proven.
Schneider loses – time for Lu to take over, but Cory is still a very solid backup.
Luongo loses – ZOMG trade Luongo etcetera.
Just ride the hot hand, baby.
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by Ghetto Defendant on Nov 27, 2011 11:31 AM PST reply actions
well he was
already getting groin before the injury, according to canuckles…
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by Twitchy2010 on Nov 27, 2011 11:39 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
yeah
so I would guess he already knows the value of BJs
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notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
BJ's suck?
This is news to me.
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by Twin Terror on Nov 27, 2011 11:55 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I said Value
not lack thereof
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notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
RIde the Schneid until the win streak is broken
Most teams would kill to be in our position to have these 2 goalies to choose from on any given night, no controversy – just a win/win for the team and the fans.
A 2 goalie system can work for this team, the natural competition should make them both hungry and playing at the top of their game.
We’ll need them both in the playoffs.
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I agree
having both in the playoffs would be a boon, especially at the top of their games. Two top goalies going, one gets injured. Most teams, that’s the end of their playoffs. For us? Who the fuck cares, we still have another ready to go.
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notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
Nice thought...
But they will have to establish a clear-cut #1 by the playoffs, IMO. I say go with Schneids now, because he’s on fire. Why not, really? I’m not really paying mind to where the strategy of “just play Schneider” could take us in the long run… Just looking game by game. All I’ll say, and this is as an extremely ardent Luongo supporter: Schneider has the chance to put the Canucks in a tough spot.. and to force them to make a VERY tough decision.
by RogerFenway on Nov 27, 2011 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
The poll should be not who WE think should play cough Schnieds. Not b/c Lou is bad, but b/c Schnieds is on a streak, and I thought it was in the Universal Sports Lawbook that you don’t break a streak.
The poll should be who do you think AV will play? AV doesn’t always do what seems to be a no-brainer too us. I could just as easily at any time see AV put Luongo back in. I have no doubt Lou is nagging to be put back in, Every game Schnieds plays well fuels the negativity that Lou has to deal with. It’s in Lou’s best interest to get back in the net, unless of course he gets there and ( the D ) shits the bed.
Maybe the real controversy is why does the D break down in front of Lou, and not Cory?
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Maybe the real controversy is why does the D break down in front of Lou, and not Cory?
That’s not really a true question to ask. I’ve seen them fail in front of both. And, like I said, Lou had won 3 of 4 before he got hurt.
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by Sean Zandberg on Nov 27, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
Sean nailed it
this isn’t about appeasing egos or contracts, it’s about winning. whatever move on the chess board that gives you the advantage you make.
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by Yankee Canuck on Nov 27, 2011 2:02 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions
you guys are awesome
after hearing the media and non-hockey educated canucks fans blabber on about the apparent “controversy”, it’s nice to come back here and find level headed logically sound statements – as always
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by VCR Milli on Nov 28, 2011 11:28 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
Lots of teams wishing they could afford to sit a player like Luongo
The comments above, and the article itself, are very heartening to read. The Canucks don’t have a goaltending controversy, they have an embarrassment of riches in the crease and a tough choice to make before the end of the year.
Luongo gets pilloried for the four lopsided losses in the finals, but most of the criticism comes from casual, band-wagon fans who don’t pay close attention to the games and have no in-depth knowledge of the sport. The Canucks team playing in front of Luongo against Boston was a shadow of itself, due to injuries. With Hank, Kesler, Samuelsson, Higgins and Raymond either out or playing injured and Malhotra desperately out of “game shape”, their offense was too reliant on Daniel Sedin who managed only a half a point a game. The defense was in even worse shape with top blueline scorer Erhoff and # 2 Edler both playing hurt and best shut down man Hamhuis out for the series, and the excessive Rome suspension, the Canucks put a lot of guys with limited experience on the big stage.
And Luo catches the blame for the loss. But, really, when was the last time a goalie registered two shutouts and won three games in the finals for a team that only scored eight goals in seven games and ended up as the goat? Ever?
No, never.
by Central Canada Canucklehead on Nov 28, 2011 1:08 PM PST reply actions
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