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Senators At Canucks Recap ; Stretching The Point (2-1W o/t)

 

Before we get to the breakdown of this wonderfully entertaining game tonight, a link to Mr Botchford at the Province.  He might have been reading Nucks Misconduct, where we have been on that #embracethehate hashtag for a long time, but it is hardly an original thing to posit.  Sometimes it is an even harder one to put into practice.  But let us try to anyhow, just for the delicious irony and honest giggles that come your way when you do. Like in this game.

I bring it up because we actually had a perfect example of that tonight.  The video above is a perfect allegory for the Canuck hate and the absurd levels it can reach.  To say that Alexandre Burrows actually opened the door on Winchester from that is a bit much, at least to me.  But that is the great thing about that sort of thing now.  Logic and actual reality matter little in the face of it, and it is all about stretching your point. Ahhh, unintended humour, it's the best.

A few more points to stretch and point and laugh at after the break.

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You know what is absurd though?  Right after the game, the SNET folks go to Kyper et al.  You would think we are going to see some highlights, analysis, or an interview or two right?  Uh uh.  Five minutes at least on Sidney Crosby.  I get it, and I know you guys have missed your "boy" back East, but lets not get too crazy right?  You will have plenty of time for that before game time tomorrow.  You know what else is absurd...me calling this game "wonderfully entertaining". I suppose I did stretch that point!

 

- There was a perfect example of the 1-3-1 in action tonight, for you hockey neophytes on display tonight.  I thought Mr MacLean was a coach from the Wings system, and would coach a more puck possession type game, but that was almost Bolts versus Flyers passive at points tonight.  They would send in one forechecker at times, but rarely was there the two men working together ( what the Canucks and Wings do, with variations ) forcing the play until late in the second and at a few points in the third.  And damned if they did not get a goal and look more dangerous when they did abandon it.  The game became engaged.  Though it was funny, after they scored early in the third, they rarely got into an aggressive forecheck posture the rest of the way.  Sure, they got a few chances on turnovers, won faceoffs in the offensive zone, and when they abandoned the 1-3-1.  But it was obvious that they were playing for the point instead of the win late.

 

- Both goalies had wonderful games.  Ryan Kesler had a couple chances to get one on Alex Auld, only to be robbed.  Cody Hodgson was dangerous and effective in the third, but Baldy was all over it.  I am willing to give him a break on the 1st goal, as it looks like Winchester got a piece of it with his stick before it got through him, and he never saw the winner with a perfect Chris Higgins screen and tip.  The same for Cory Schneider.  The goal, it looked as if Aaron Rome lost Colin Greening in front.  Jason Spezza made a wonderful pass, and sometimes you just have to say "nice play.  But there were several huge saves he made tonight on Spezza ( who seemed to have a deal with the Canucks that he get one free chance at the beginning of each period ), and the robbery of Milan Mihalek was simply beautiful.

 

- Young Erik Karlsson is already a wonderful player.  He had 2 shots and 3 hits tonight ( was also a -1 ), and was one of the few Sens who was a force on the puck at times.  But that penalty he drew on Kevin Bieksa was a pretty obvious "embellishment".  I know that might sound rich coming from a Canuck fan (irony? ;-) , but the little hop after feeling the stick on his hip sort of gave it away for me.  Again, we #embracethehate around here, and I am not really giving it to the refs, as they only call what they see, but I do think it was a fine example of Puck God karma when he had a clear chance with 5 seconds left and airmailed it into the netting above the goal rather than the mesh within it.  We want to hate when our players do that, but we should hate when everyone does.  Because Puck God Karma is not some new agey hippy nonsense, but a very real thing.

 

- That being said, it really did not matter because of the fabulous work of the penalty killers tonight. Sure, the power play is sexy, and went 1 for 4( one of those an only 00:18 PP ). They threw it around pretty good a few times without goals, and while Henrik Sedin's goal was a power play tally, it came off the rush.  But tonight belonged to the guys with the heart. The PK went 5 for 5.  Whether it was Manny Malhotra ( who had about his best game of the season tonight ) or others winning almost every shorthanded faceoff to force a clear, or one of numerous 2 on 1's shorthanded that should have resulted in the first shorty of the season, the Canucks were excellent at that aspect of special teams tonight.

 

- I try to be positive, and all that, but I do have to agree with Alain Vigneault tonight, who characterized his team's performance tonight as "not good enough". Sure, Baldy was solid in net, but they should have had at least one 5 on 5 goal for their troubles. The breakouts were mainly solid all night, but several guys got outworked on the goal for the Sens. That they were the Kesler line and Aaron Rome and Andrew Alberts, guys that are supposed to be known for hard work, is a little unsettling.  Though, to be fair, everyone that makes it to the NHL is a very good hockey player, and you cannot just win every battle.

 

- Andrew Alberts may get some more games in the coming week or two, depending on injury status of a few guys. He may even have better ones. But he was not very good tonight. His turnovers came at the wrong times all night. He may get a call at least from Sheriff Shanny for a dumb, dumb hit, and while Kevin Bieksa also had 4 PIM, he brings more on the rush, and is better as a defender as well.  Albie seemed to be a bit  out of sorts all night long.

 

- Faceoffs. Vancouver led them 12-11 after one period, were behind 25-19 by the end of the second, and battled back to make it dead even at 31-31 when all was said and done. Ryan Kesler started the night 0 for 6 in the first period, and finished it up at 7 for 19. It was not his best night, but he battled.  Manny Malhotra going 11 for 20, and Henrik Sedin ending the night at 8 for 14 sure helped.  With those two, it usually means that Money was money in his own end, and Hank was helping to start out the Sedinery with the puck.

 

- The Terror Twins are back. Even if the majority of Canuck fans think that line is struggling, you have to keep Kesler and Burrows together. They showed their wolfpack mentality, the way they both hunt the puck, shorthanded and at even strength. With Chris Higgins in permanent beastmode, you have to think they are breaking out very, very soon.  Even if Ryan Kesler gets set up perfectly for a late goal hero play and shoots wide.  We know that you are giving it your all though Oh KesLord.  An even strength goal or two would really help your Church get some new converts.

 

- Oh, final bonus point. Tell Dandy Don Cherry that the Canucks were behind 7-2 in blocks after one, and ended up blocking 12 to the visitors 10 tonight.

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Oh, final bonus point. Tell Dandy Don Cherry that the Canucks were behind 7-2 in blocks after one, and ended up blocking 12 to the visitors 10 tonight.

It’s about time!

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by Sean Zandberg on Nov 20, 2011 10:01 PM PST reply actions  

Bring back Ryan Johnson!

by marcness52 on Nov 21, 2011 12:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Listening to 1040 following the game

Burrows admitted that he probably didn’t close the door very well, but it was unintentional. He also mentioned that he knows Winchester from playing hockey in the Montreal area as a kid, and was glad he didn’t get hurt.

by Daoust501 on Nov 20, 2011 10:10 PM PST reply actions  

Didn’t look intentional to me, and I am willing to give Burr shit when it’s warranted.

Aaron Rome once had an awkward moment, just to see how it feels.

by raincity on Nov 20, 2011 10:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I have a question to the people counting chances : to the eyes, it seemed that Coho was struggling during the first half, and got better as the game went on, is that in the numbers or did I dream that?

by BECanucks on Nov 20, 2011 10:36 PM PST reply actions  

I thought Hodgson was the best forward on the ice. I don’t recall a slow start

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by Sean Zandberg on Nov 20, 2011 10:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't count

chances per se, though I suppose I could. I keep notes, and it would not take much. Usually cam posts a scoring chances post.

But I would say that you are right. He was much more on it in the second half…he had some good shifts early on, but more were going on net later on

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by vancitydan on Nov 20, 2011 10:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I heard coho’s name being mentioned a lot in in the 2nd and the 3rd periods… And in a good light too! :O

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by kiyotok on Nov 20, 2011 11:18 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, he was excellent. Just couldn’t bury his chances. But he’s so skilled. And his work ethic off the boards is sweet. Excellent hand-eye on this dude too.

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by Sean Zandberg on Nov 21, 2011 12:11 AM PST up reply actions  

I almost read that last line as “Excellent eye candy on this dude.”

by marcness52 on Nov 21, 2011 12:12 AM PST up reply actions  

heh! I don’t swing that way :)

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by Sean Zandberg on Nov 21, 2011 12:16 AM PST up reply actions  

well he is decent looking I suppose :P a little young though lol

Go Canucks Go!

by BW79 on Nov 21, 2011 12:34 AM PST up reply actions  

dan i disagree

with your complaint about sportsnet and crosby…doesn’t matter which side he’s on, it’s big news for hockey. I didn’t mind the few minutes even if it was tweedle-stupid and dipshit doing the analysis.

The canucks pissed me off tonite…right from the start of the game they were continually prone to lapses of caring. I’m kinda depressed in general about the nucks this season so far…there just seems to be no heart there. It’s like ‘well we’re good, and we tried hard last season, but we just don’t care about the chalice as much anymore’ or something. Makes me mad.

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by Twitchy2010 on Nov 20, 2011 11:21 PM PST reply actions  

They sure as hell don’t look all that sharp. The passing is ass. And it’s really ass 5 on 5. “Lack of execution” 5 on 5 as AV put it.
Kesler really needs to snap out of it. I’ll give Booth some more time.

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by Sean Zandberg on Nov 21, 2011 12:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah does Kesler even have an even strength goal yet? He just looks snakebit right now. It’s like Kessel and Kesler switched bodies.

by marcness52 on Nov 21, 2011 12:11 AM PST up reply actions  

No ES goals for Kesler. On the Kes-Burrows 2 on 1 while shorthanded he held on to the puck for a second before shooting it. No one-timer on that…and Auld makes a huge save as well

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by Sean Zandberg on Nov 21, 2011 12:15 AM PST up reply actions  

New Slogan at the top
Nucks Misconduct – The passing is ass

Enjoying .500 hockey this year.

by westy99 on Nov 21, 2011 7:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know if it was a trap system that the Sens were playing 5 on 5 (I wasn’t really paying attention to that), but the Canucks effort 5 on 5 was puke inducing. The powerplay wasn’t bad and the PK was pretty good. Their 4 on 4 wasn’t too bad either but they really need a better effort 5 on 5.

by marcness52 on Nov 21, 2011 12:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Well the Sens’ “trap” seemed to prevent the Canucks from entering the zone and sustaining any pressure. When that happens our D pinches deep to help out on the forecheck and well…..that makes me cringe.

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by Sean Zandberg on Nov 21, 2011 12:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah they really love to do that. I really cringe when Albert pinches. I guess it’s better if he pinches than being the only man back.

by marcness52 on Nov 21, 2011 12:14 AM PST up reply actions  

haha, I don’t know, man. Flip a coin?

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by Sean Zandberg on Nov 21, 2011 12:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Dying to talk hockey strategy

I was listening to the team one day after that Flyers Bolts fiasco, they were comparing hockey analysis to football analysis and wondering why the media and fans don’t break down the strategies of hockey like they do in football. Everyone who watches NFL with any regularity (or plays Madden) knows the difference between cover 2 and cover 3 as well as all the other countless nuances of football strategy. But no one ever talks about hockey strategy with that kind of depth. I dismissed it at the time, thinking that hockey is too fluid and fast for fans to really pay attention but now when every passive forecheck is called a 1-3-1 and compared to what the Bolts did I start to realize that maybe the media should be breaking down hockey strategy. For years trap was the buzz term for summing up any passive forecheck now it’s 1-3-1. Even though 1-3-1 isn’t really specific enough to describe anything. It would be cool if you guys could find a hockey coach (or probably ex) who could do some posting about strategy. I’m familiar with some from my playing and very limited coaching days but I would love it if someone could really fill us in on the contemporary strategies used in the NHL.

by Canuckelhead on Nov 21, 2011 12:29 AM PST reply actions  

Also

What the bolts did went beyond a passive forecheck. They had no forecheck, it was even more defensive than what you would typically describe as a 1-3-1, which is why it was so obvious and newsworthy. Tonight the Sens were sending two forecheckers, the second in support and high but he was in the Canucks zone if the first forechecker was able to create pressure. It was just a safe and responsible forecheck, which should be expected from a well coached team playing a high powered team like the Canucks, but I don’t think it’s fair to compare it to what Guy Boucher is doing.

by Canuckelhead on Nov 21, 2011 12:56 AM PST reply actions  

The Sens

did what any trap team does. I disagree that they were sending two with any regularity. They would press a little when it was safe…but after the first goal, it was dump, and one guy in, the other guy at the blue line, usually on the outside of it.

They were clogging up the neutral zone, and most the time, it was to trap.

Not every team traps all the time, and unless you are the Devils, Minny, and TB etc, its not always a trap.

But what the Sens were doing, even if you feel it is a misnomer to call it the 1-3-1 is trap. They would go the other way off turnovers ( what trap teams do ), but unless it was an odd man rush chance, most the time they were laying back.

They opened up some in the third, but to me, they were playing the neutral zone “trap” more often than not.

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by vancitydan on Nov 21, 2011 1:19 AM PST up reply actions  

oh...LOL

I did do a little coaching way back when, but that was 25 years ago, and I was just helping out that year.

Back then it was called the “left wing lock” , before Jacque Lemaire changed it up a bit from Bowman’s system and ruined hockey!

I get what you are saying about safe and responsible, but I just thought they were more passive than that. They certainly did not have two guys deep like the Canucks most of the game

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by vancitydan on Nov 21, 2011 1:34 AM PST up reply actions  

I totally agree that they were playing conservative

But at this point “the trap” is just a blanket statement and has lost all meaning. Strictly speaking almost every modern forecheck is a variation of the trap since nobody sends all three forwards in blindly anymore, there’s a goal that usually involves funneling the puck a specific way. What really separates teams is how they use the third forward and the dmen on the forecheck. On a team like the Canucks the d have the green light to pinch in and help. Last night the sens third forward was playing near the blue line until the sens had full possession and he was getting in position for a scoring chance. So in the sense that it was a conservative forecheck I totally agree with you.

by Canuckelhead on Nov 21, 2011 9:49 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

oh no... the Senators are irked

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/318484?eref=twitter_feed

Winger Maxim Lapierre slammed Jesse Winchester into an open bench door being controlled by Alex Burrows with no call. It appeared Burrows opened the door and Ottawa players weren’t pleased.

Read more: http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/318484?eref=twitter_feed#ixzz1eLufEkmp

by Kent Basky on Nov 21, 2011 7:03 AM PST reply actions  

Hey Sens!

Harden the fuck up.

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by Smoboy41 on Nov 21, 2011 9:24 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Wow

thats a pretty biased slant. Burrows was “in control” huh?

#embracethehate indeed.

Funny how this particular writer has the quotes NO One in the entire press corps got from the same standing around the guys. Only this writer got that paritcular quote about it.

Uh Huh.

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by vancitydan on Nov 21, 2011 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

SupersonicNerd M. Kang
"Asked why people hate the Canucks so much after Recchi called them arrogant on Boston radio, captain Daniel Alfredsson said: ‘I don’t.’"

by Kent Basky on Nov 21, 2011 8:57 AM PST reply actions  

Daniel Alfredsson

has already hardened the fuck up. God bless him.

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by Smoboy41 on Nov 21, 2011 9:25 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

classy guy. I wonder what other players other than the Bruins think of us

by Chocolate on Nov 21, 2011 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Obviously it's because he's Swedish

And soft

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by Semi_Colon on Nov 21, 2011 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

are you

Mark Spector #bigotsRus

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by Canuckles on Nov 21, 2011 8:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I was at the game.

I was a decent affair.

The highlight however was the party going on in the box behind me. I don’t think it would be physically possible to cram more prostitutes (or ‘escorts’) into one box.

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by mhsilver on Nov 21, 2011 1:40 PM PST reply actions  

"party" eh?

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