Canuck Brunch- Road Mutants Crushing All...- Movember 1
So much to cover and so little time and space. As so many of you have mentioned, October is done and not a moment too soon. The Canucks ushered out a washout of a month with a rather entertaining 7-4 win over the 1st place Washington Capitals, and while it was hardly perfect, if you're looking for perfection right now you're missing the point. This was exactly what they needed to get going: A sign of their previous offensive superiority returning, some adversity that they could tackle effectively, better special teams and most importantly: signs of life in the crease. You may look at a game where the goaltender lets in 4 goals as nothing to be happy about. But after the start that Roberto Luongo had, and the save he made on Alex Ovechkin, that one save might be the turning point. The team now heads out on the road, taking on a number of foes that should be beatable, as well as some that will provide a challenge, and a good indication of where they're at as far as making another Cup run. The fun all starts tonight in Calgary against a team that we love to see them beat in the Flames. More about tonight's matchup, my take on the Raffi Torres controversy, and a look at what the Canucks have in common with Kevin Bacon. Seriously...
While the Canucks are not as bad as their 5-5-1 record indicates, one wonders if the Flames are as good as their 4-4-1 mark. They're struggling to score, and when you look at their personnel, once again you see the problem with the Flames (one of them, anyways). After Jarome Iginla, there's not a ton of talent there compared to most teams, hell even compared to others in their division. They do have Rene Bourque, but with rumblings surfacing recently that he wants out, and a list of guys that all seem to have passed their shelf life, they will once again try and depend heavily on Miikka Kiprusoff to... what's that? They want to try and play Henrik Karlsson more to rest Kiprusoff? Oh god, they're screwed. While it's an admirable thing to try and fix one of the flaws that has kept them from any type of success since they went to the finals in 2004, there's not much indication that Karlsson is going to give the Flames what Cory Schneider brought to the Canucks last season. And looking at the stats thus far, Kipper is posting numbers normal for him, Karlsson? Just 1 of a possible 4 points for the team so far.
While as a Canucks fan I probably shouldn't care, I often wondered why the Flames were so reluctant to actually go into the rebuild mode? It's dishonest to their fanbase to keep selling them a product that has no business being in the playoffs, despite how well they finished up last year. This team is old, there's not much for them to go to as far as prospects, and they've made some ridiculously bad trades and signings over the years. The flaming hubris that Jay Feaster inherited from Darryl Sutter? I wouldn't wish that on anyone. But a group of aging veterans that are looking more and more like they can't get it done, and lots of money tied up in unmovable contracts means quite simply the Flames are going to have to suffer longer until Feaster can fix the problems. That one Stanley Cup win is now decades old, and losing relevance with every passing season. Their reluctance and inability to change will see them on the outside looking in... again.
The Canucks will roll with the same lineup that defeated Washington, though we can expect the return of Aaron Rome to the lineup since he suffered a broken finger in the preseason. Speculation that it will be Keith Ballard sitting instead of Alexander Sulzer is a clear indication that Ballard's regression after what seemed to be a good start isn't sitting well with Alain Vigneault. The question is: does this work as a motivational tool for Ballard, or is it just more of what we saw last season, where Ballard has to wait for someone to go down to get back into the lineup?
Now, onto Raffi Torres. Nothing earth-shattering here in terms of my thoughts on it. Was it racist? No. But, as Canucks Army's Thomas Drance and Puck Daddy's Harrison Mooney both stated in their well-written pieces on the subject, the problem is people, Raffi included not recognizing the historical significance of blackface and it's implied statement. If white people had endured decades of ridicule through the field of entertainment by blacks, in the same manner that white entertainers did to them then they might be right in bringing up Dwayne Wade's appearance as Justin Timberlake. But it's not. We haven't moved past the ugliness of racism enough to be able to have a portion of the community not be outraged by this. The discussion helps, but one of the biggest stumbling blocks seems to be an unawareness on the part of Canadians of just how contentious this issue is compared to our friends south of the border. Either way, I imagine Raffi, a victim of racist abuse in the past, is a little overwhelmed by all the attention. I guarantee, while it wasn't malicious he will certainly put a bit more thought into the costumes he and his wife wear next Halloween.
While I was discussing this with Harrison via GChat last night, I remarked that all of the news in the league, most notably the negative stuff seemed to be able to find it's way on the Canucks doorstep for one reason or another. It hit me as I realized "Oh my god... we're the hockey version of Kevin Bacon". You've heard of the game, where because of the small size of the Hollywood Community, any actor or actress can be linked through their roles to our pal Kev in no more than 6 steps. Try it out and see for yourself. Okay, so it's silly. But the point I am trying to make is something that we have talked about a lot leading into this season, and something in the news again after we saw Don Cherry take shots at the team on Coach's Corner Saturday night. It doesn't matter what the Canucks or their fans do: someone out there is gonna make a stink about it. It's a sign we're doing something right, and it's not gonna change. Best to embrace that hate, and have some fun with it.
BAND OF THE DAY- SHORT SHARP SHOCK
As you might have seen, I am growing a mustache in support of Movember, to raise funds for Prostate Cancer awareness, so to keep with that theme, a fun little ditty from the UK's Short Sharp Shock (or SSS for short) and a track off their 2nd release 'The Dividing Line'. Make sure you check out my page at http://mobro.co/KentBaskyNM for updates and to donate to the effort.
and a bonus track today... because I am sure some of you were wondering about the title of the post. It's from Death Angel's "Road Mutants" off 1988's 'Frolic Through The Park'
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Sutton gets 5 games
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You guys see Thornton and Torts' comments?
Epic lulz
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Nov 1, 2011 2:01 PM PDT reply actions
Is anybody
else as sick of Tortarella’s shtick as I am? Also, should Raffi get up in BizDopey’s face for letting that pic see the light of day? And another thing…do all metal bands use the same font on their cd/album covers?
I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?
by Smoboy41 on Nov 1, 2011 2:55 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I find it hilarious
He can be a complete dick to everyone with little to no accountability.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Nov 1, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I like Torts. Especially when he rags on that dipshit Larry Brooks
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by Sean Zandberg on Nov 1, 2011 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
oh man
he hates Brooksie.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Nov 2, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Really? What's wrong with what Torts said?
Joe’s team got beat by 3 goals and he calls the Rangers “soft”. Honestly, Joe should shut the hell up because he’s a guy who hasn’t ever won anything. Outside of that, even if he had, it’s just kind of… weird and lame to call a team soft right after they beat you? And Joe Thornton is a clown either way. I got no beef with Torts.
Wow, I am going to disagree with you on several fronts today, Kent:) Bear with me:
While the Canucks are not as bad as their 5-5-1 record indicates,
I think they are worse, actually.
It doesn’t matter what the Canucks or their fans do: someone out there is gonna make a stink about it. It’s a sign we’re doing something right, and it’s not gonna change. Best to embrace that hate, and have some fun with it.
Fuck, am I the only person who agreed with Cherry? Kesler whined and bitched about non-calls SO BAD that the refs decided to call NOTHING on him a couple games ago. Kesler can be a whiny little bitch out there sometimes. Let’s just call a spade a spade. And the Sedins are soft. I don’t care who says it..it’s correct. “Turn the other cheek” kind of players. Yeah that works so well in the playoffs doesn’t it?
Was it racist? No. But, as Canucks Army’s Thomas Drance and Puck Daddy’s Harrison Mooney both stated in their well-written pieces on the subject, the problem is people, Raffi included not recognizing the historical significance of blackface and it’s implied statement. If white people had endured decades of ridicule through the field of entertainment by blacks, in the same manner that white entertainers did to them then they might be right in bringing up Dwayne Wade’s appearance as Justin Timberlake. But it’s not. We haven’t moved past the ugliness of racism enough to be able to have a portion of the community not be outraged by this. The discussion helps, but one of the biggest stumbling blocks seems to be an unawareness on the part of Canadians of just how contentious this issue is compared to our friends south of the border.
Ah man. As a Canadian I can understand the significance of racism in america to a large degree. But let’s face it, there comes a time to get over it. Wasn’t blackface almost 100 years ago? FFS. I don’t even care who gets insulted. I don’t. Because if we tip toe around shit like this with other “relevant” issues then nobody is going to do anything anymore. We can all sit on our hands and do nothing in fear of offending people. Raffi loves JayZ and imitation is the greatest form of flattery. If he didn’t paint his skin he’d look like House of Pain.
There comes a time to get over shit.
You know what offends me? Mormons knocking on my door on a Sunday afternoon trying to convert me. But I deal with it. I tell them “not interested” and close my door. Or I get angry and tell them to fuck off.
I know there are so many other examples of this type of thing. Just let me go to my shrink and deal with my anger issues first.
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well... you think you know someone... :p
ahem…
1)- your glass is half empty, and probably full of ice. this is still the team that went to the finals.
2)- Cherry’s full of shit, and pandering to the crowd that thinks that the NHL isn’t killing itself with the whole notion there’s nothing wrong with the refs ‘putting their whistles away’ in the finals. I find it obscene that this sport runs where what is a penalty in October is NOT one in June. It’s wrong.
3)- Agree to disagree, but the history behind racism isn’t healed yet for many. Sweeping aside something unresolved leaves it to fester and rise again. Also, as a Mormon… I forgive you. Now can I come in for a moment so that I can give you this brochure?
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I can see where Papa Sean is coming from
But damn that Kent is a wise MFer too.
1- I’m with you Kent. The team now is actually better on paper than last years. Let them play more than 10/11 games to judge better or worse. They deserve another month at least to overcome injuries ( Kesler and Money ) and their annual October Extended Training Camp. At least they aren’t off to the Bruin’s start.
2- Don is pandering and full of shit, but they ( Don and the guys that put that show together each week) are no dummies. Sprinkle this and that in. The Sedins being “soft” though Sean? There is more than one way to play the game. For two guys to play the way they do and not be out injured all the time is a telling thing. Have to disagree there. Same with the Kesler thing. I am not saying that he does not have conversations on the ice. But that is every player in the NHL. No one is mute out there. The thing that pissed me off the most about that Don piece was him putting words and his bellicose ranting style to full effect on the clip used. The ref comes in and says something and the guy he is talking to says something back. The assumption is HUGE that he is botching there.
Agree to disagree there. I see the point you are making, but Kent is right, it is maddening that a two handed slash that breaks fingers, bruises knees ( like the Bieksa one ) and more are judged by a different standard. I expect that to be ameliorated somewhat by Sheriff Shanny.
3-Its been talked to death already. I have to ask though Kent, and I mean no disrespect. What did you think of the South Park episode with the nice Mormon family? ;-)
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3-Its been talked to death already. I have to ask though Kent, and I mean no disrespect. What did you think of the South Park episode with the nice Mormon family? ;-)
check your Sarcasmometer… :)
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awww damn
I don’t know any Mormons. Damn it! I thought I had one…I will get it checked ASAP ;-)
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Kesler and the Sedins are divers! I will not excuse them for it just because they have orcas on their chests.
Glad to see CC chime in. Now if only more people were like him. If you guys had your way no white guy could ever color his skin and dress up as a black rapper. You know why? Because people NEVER GET OVER SHIT. It goes from generation to generation. The anger runs deep.
And I see Semi agrees with me on my point #1 (below). Another smart guy. The rest of you? Politically correct homers! To hell with you!!!! haha
Back to my shrink. He’s obviously not helping me.
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by Sean Zandberg on Nov 1, 2011 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
haha Sean you're on a rampage today!
I agree with you as well on the Sedins and Kesler (but don’t forget to add Luongo!) being divers.
I’m not going to weigh in on the “is this racist” thing. Because I’m white. And a bunch of white dudes arguing what should be considered offensive to people of other races is a pretty fucking “white dude” thing, historically.
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Reverse racism!!!!!
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by Sean Zandberg on Nov 1, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Do what I do.
Hate everybody. Makes life less complicated.
I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?
Pul-Leaze!
You know, believe what you want, but its wrong…
Wrong because it is. They are not close.
Look, all players dive. its called drawing the call, or whatever else the coachspeak is on that team. So, if someone points out that a Canuck embellished, so what? Everyone does! I fail to see how this team has to wear that stupid and wrong label. They played tougher than every team in the playoffs…until they lost enough guys that they couldn’t/ So, come on. Diving, soft teams don’t outhit the rest of the playoff teams by 170 hits, or something like that!
I watched the Bruins / Sens, and it could be argued that Marchand dived every fucking shift. So enough with the negative stereotyping. It just encourages assholes like Don and JR trying to get eyeballs on their TV shows!
Its not “excusing” them either Papa Smurf. Just becaus your Unca Don says something…jesus! ;-)
The racism stuff, you have my full support on railing against PC BS.
But just because Semi agrees? Shit, if Semi jumped off the bridge because of a .500 record after 11 games, would you?
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by vancitydan on Nov 1, 2011 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with Sean on point 1
The Canucks looked a lot worse this year in October compared to last year. Shutout 3 times in 11 games? The team SV% at its worst in October in AV’s tenure?
They’re lucky to be .500
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If Raffi showed up at a college party, it would have been a great costume. People without a sense of humor are the only ones trying to make something out of this. As long as he wasnt mocking Jay Z whats the problem? Would there be any discussion if Evander Kane dressed up as Eminem?
sigh
read Harrison’s post. He says it far better than I can.
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Makes sense…I’m a white kid from AK. I get that he isn’t racist, but by dressing up as JayZ he can bring race questions to the table. But I also think its how he acts when he is in the costume.
I thought Raffi's costume was fucking hilarious
Keep in mind, I have a somewhat erratic and demented sense of humour.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Nov 1, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
no one asked you!!
I kid… (see, I do have a sense of humour). Honestly, I don’t think Raffi put any thought into it. And maybe because I am old, and a metalhead, I didn’t think it was all that funny. But meh, it’s not the worst thing in the world, but those in the public spotlight should shy away from this kind of stuff
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My friends asked me how I felt on this
I echoed your last sentence.
Raffi should expect the heat he got.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Nov 1, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Off topic and on to the metalhead you speak of…As a fellow metal enthusiast who follows NM quite religiously (mostly in class…), it seems that you guys only represent the old school metal in these posts. I love the old school, just want to see my generation represented. It would be great to see some newer age stuff (As I lay Dying, Parkway Drive, 36 Crazyfists, Blessthefall, Bullet For My Valentine, etc). I get its your post, your music though…
not to sound like a bitter old metal snob
But a lot of that stuff doesn’t impress me. And a quick stroll through past posts shows lots of young bands, I just can’t get into the emo stuff. It’s the latest incarnation of cock rock in my eyes, much like rapmetal and other such trends… Not trying to be insulting, but as someone who’s covered the metal scene since the end of the 80’s, and been a fan for coming up on 30 years, I like to think I have an ear for what’s good and what’s not. Album sales don’t always indicate quality.
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No worries, like I said its your post. Im not really into the emo stuff either. You cant get into As I Lay Dying or All That Remains type stuff though? You must be old school!
I'm so old school
I fart rust…
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by Kent Basky on Nov 1, 2011 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
ATR
isn’t too bad, metalcore bands like that get a little too repetitive for me though.
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I feel like an outcast among my friends, as I’m the only one who doesnt listen to rap/pop/country. It’s basically considered devil worship music by everyone here. ATR can get repetitive. When I meet someone who likes metal (old or new) I feel an almost instant connection with them because we are kind of rare.
I spent 3 years
living in a town of 300. I know what that feels like. And when I went to school, wearing a metallica or anthrax shirt got you attention from the football team.
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AK, educate me. I will use some stuff in the Game Previews if I hear stuff I like.
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by Sean Zandberg on Nov 1, 2011 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Well my personal favorite band from AK, 36 Crazyfists has some awesome lyrics, check out elysium, reviver, bloodwork, we gave it hell or the all night lights. Other bands I listen to include Parkway Drive, Aussies who can shred guitar, check out Deliver Me, Home is for the Heartless, Horizons, or Carrion. I’m sure you have heard of Bullet for My Valentine, As I Lay Dying, All that Remains. Haste the Day is the best “Christian metal” band I know. Check out Chorus of Angels, American Love, Needles, The Minor Prophets, Pressure the Hinges, When everything falls, or Who We Are. In Flames, is a great Swedish band who have been around forever. That should keep you plenty occupied for awhile. Hopefully, something there can interest you.
also, as long as I am angry...
It really kind of pisses me off that the media were all over the Canucks early for not getting off to a great start, yet we’re in November and now we’re being bombarded with a ‘Oh the poor, poor Bruins’ narrative? Fuckin’ hell… Shouldn’t be surprised. They gave the Hawks the same free pass last year…
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The Bruins
can go take a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut.
I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?
by Smoboy41 on Nov 1, 2011 4:43 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
the way they're playing now
they’d surely fuck that up…
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Nice to see
that they’re finally getting called on their after the whistle shenanigans.
I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?
by Smoboy41 on Nov 1, 2011 4:47 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
what I really like
is some of their blog community have already used the phrase ‘Fail for Nail’ (Yakupov). The fans of your stanley cup champions, ladies and gentlemen. So much better than ours for booing Luongo.
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Forget it.
Columbus has a full on chubby for a lottery pick.
I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?
Well, you know
Original Six and all. We OWE those teams for being first.
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on tonight's game
saw a number of Flames fans predicting they would score 6 or 7 tonight. The team that’s averaging 2.44 gpg. Flames fans: taking the word ‘delusional’ to levels previously unheard of.
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Ha. Saw that too. Delusional was the exact word that popped into my head.
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they may have a point, though.
these games usually turn into either goalie clinics or blowouts.
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I’m with missy on this one :)
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by Sean Zandberg on Nov 1, 2011 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
And some random dude always gets a hattrick
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
but we don’t have Mayray this time :(
(he got the last two hatties at the Saddledome)
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Rene Bourque. Mark my words :)
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by Sean Zandberg on Nov 1, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Also
Tim Jackman
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
He’s buried on their 4th line though…I don’t foresee him doing much
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by Sean Zandberg on Nov 1, 2011 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
he seems to come out of the woodworks against us, though.
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