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Bieksa ponders who long he'll let Neal be conscious before he makes him take a nap (Photo by Marissa Baecker/Getty Images)

And so it begins again. And if I have learned anything from last night, it's that the Luongo debate is going to be an ugly one all season long. Let's get right into it, since I have already had three co-workers ask me about it so we might as well talk shop.

Was last night Luongo's best game? No. No it was not. In fact, if you have your Luongo Fails check list ready, you will see he completed nearly all of the in last nights game.

1) Bad goal close to the side boards (Last night's was an inverted Marchand game 6 goal)? Check

2) A nut punching, what the hell was that goal from behind the goal line? Check

3) Bobbling the puck off of the glove and scrambling to recover? Check

4) Looking like Dan Cloutier after a huge bender at Brad May's house the night before in the shootout? Check

 

The only thing missing from getting 'Bingo!' was that Luongo didn't give up the puck with his stick handling.

Star-divide

But that aside, it was one game. And it is October. Bash Luongo all you want for melting in pressure games, do your thing on being unsure of how good he is in the playoffs, but for the regular season? Luongo is consistently a great goalie for the regular season. He just came off of taking the team to game 7 of the finals. I am sure we can all find it in our hearts to give the guy a break. Sure, it looked like a homeless guy on one skate could have deked Luongo out in the shootout, and sure it looked like that guy who jumped on the ice against Theodore years ago would have had a solid chance of scoring on Luongo, but give Lu time, he'll find his groove, and he'll give us solid goaltending in the regular season as he always does. If you think you've somehow come up with a way to prove that last nights game from Luongo is proof that he needs to be traded, do us all a favor, put down the beer, and go get some sleep.

As for the rest of the game, here is what stood out to me.

Sedurrows Line: Amazing. Started off slow but once they found their groove, it looked like Daniel and Henrik picked up right where they left off. Burrows timing was off a bit, but that will come around. That pass from Henrik to Daniel was sublime, and the finish Daniel had on the goal was wicked. Plus he's in my pool. Double wicked.

Samgonurm Line: God awful for most of the night. It was like Samulesson and Sturm were having a contest to see who could look slower out there. Or as is my current theory, they wanted Hodgson to look super super fast out there so they skated really really slow. Let's just say I am really glad Kelser is coming back soon. Hodgson got stronger as the game wore on, but you can tell that he isn't that shifty like a Patrick Kane, so when a guy zeroes in on him he struggles to make quick moves to get away from him, which will make it hard for him to generate offence all on his own. He also lost 80% of the battles he was in, and many times refused to engage in battles for the puck. But when he gets that puck, you can see how good he is with it. Still, Hodgson was the best of the 3 last night, and I wouldn't mind seeing Higgins/Kesler/Hodgson at one point this year. Hodgson actually played like Wellwood last night, to be honest. Didn't win many battles, but showed flashes of offensive skill with the puck. If Kesler can one man show it up and create room for Hodgson, it might work.

Higgmalsen Line: Higgins was our best player through 40 minutes. Just a beast of a game. Forechecking hard, throwing hits, and taking the puck to the net. Loved his game tonight. Manny was Manny, solid defensively, god awful offensively. And Hansen showed signs of being that hard worker he always is. One shift it looked like Hansen stole the puck three times. I think Higgins will bounce around the lineup, but if the Canucks want a dedicated "shut down" line, it looks like Hansen and Malholtra will be riding together. 

Lapirrere Line: The other two don't deserve their name with Maxim's. Max showed again what a potential mistake it was for the Ducks to let him go, as he had another great game. He just stays on that puck and is tenacious about it, and once he gets the puck, he tries to bring it to the net. Even with an ugly goal from the corner. He is the only forward legitimizing that fourth line right now, and his play really makes you want to see him get to play with other NHL caliber players. Volpatti looked like non-NHL ready Volpatti, and Weise looked terrible, but it's only one game, so they have to get more time. Weise especially, coming to a new team with a new system. I am sure nerves were high for Weise. 

Schneider: Worked that bench door like a boss. 

 

From the Penguins, the three that stood out to me were Malkin, Neal, and Letang. Malkin and Neal were downright impossible to get off the puck at times, which lead to the Canucks being penned in their own zone many times last night. After that first goal from behind the net, the Penguins began to threaten with that kind of goal many times. It would lead to Neal being behind the net and me screaming like a little school girl. "GET HIM! DON'T LET HIM SHOOT FROM BACK THERE! OH GOD! WHY WONT SOMEBODY HIT HIM??". Letang on the other hand was AMAZING at getting that puck out of trouble. Anytime the Canucks came in on him and tried to beat him physically, he would just calmly spin away from them and make the perfect outlet pass. All night long he made amazing outlet passes and made the right play. You simply could not use physical size to steal the puck from him last night, he would just evade and outlet. 

With that said, let's hit up some News and Notes!

 

Vancouver Canucks News and Notes:

 

  • @Puckpuckgoose saw an interesting thing behind Marco Sturm during his interview last night and and weighs in on the mental attitude the Canucks brass are trying to instill in the team to avoid that dreaded Stanley Cup Finals hangover. [Puck Puck Goose]
  • Want to see something more horrifying than Luongo in a shootout? I am sorry for this. This sounds like a terrible Tim Horton's breakfast sandwich. [OH GOD IT BURNS]
  • Canucks Army files their season predictions just under the wire, and I will post it here because they are like brothers to us. Brothers who we want to fail at life, but are still family, so we kind of support them, but deep down, we want nothing but fire and flames for their hopes, their dreams their future......wait, where am I? Sorry. [Canucks Army]
  • "Can the Canucks be like the Penguins??" Now times this by a thousand. And now you know what the running commentary will be ALL YEAR LONG. Cam Cole dives headfirst into this with his article, but there are some good quotes from Gillis about last year's run, including how badly injured the Canucks were, and how blind luck can often be the reason behind a successful cup run. My pass to Bieksa was not luck, though. That was skillz.
  • Roberto Luongo goes over the lowest point of his career. No, not game 7 last year, but Matt Cooke scoring two goals on him. "It felt like someone stabbed me in the heart, then pushed me down the stairs, then made me pizza with tofu on it. It can't get much worse than this." explains Luongo. Roberto, for his part, actually owned up to the bad goals, which is surprising. How long this will last is anyone's guess. [Toronto Sun]
  • Riot fallout! Police want more power to search for booze. I read this as "Police want a cheap date". "Officer, I don't think I would hide my booze in there...." [Winnipeg Free Press]
  • Tony Gallagher puts the moves on the Canucks as he insults them, but then wins them back by saying their the best. Oh Tony, you card you. [The Province]
  • The Canucks apparently don't want to practice near dirty students as they have put in a proposal to build a new hockey rink in the False Creek area so they never have to go to UBC ever again. [Vancouver Sun]
NHL News and Notes:
  • The Leafs won last night, setting up what I hope is a terrible downfall for them. Reimer posted a shutout while Jim Hughson lost his mind over nominal saves. A good time was had. At least Kessel got me an assist in my pool? Which makes up for the awkward passes and giveaways he had most of the night? Read more about the win at [Globe and Mail]
  • The Bruins lost. This pleases me. Bryzgalov got a win. This pleases me more. Marchand scored the lone Bruins goal. I hear he celebrated by getting a tattoo. "Number one pack scorrer in the HNL" Read more about the awesome Bruins loss at [Broad Street Hockey]
  • Hey, you know what's awesome about the Bruins? Re-creating the Stanley Cup win on home ice! Yup, you read that correctly! Apparently it's awesome to take the Stanley Cup and parade it around on home ice for about 5 hours. Next up for the Bruins? Parading the Stanley Cup WHILE playing the Rangers. Excellent! [Puck Daddy]
  • Colin Campbell warns Shanahan that the love fest will end. It's actually pretty awesome because it totally looks like a jealous ex-girlfriend. "At first it's all flowers and I love you's, but then soon enough, he's out all night, you haven't seen him for days, and he comes home with stripper glitter on his face. Then we'll see how much you love him. YOU'LL SEE." [Toronto Sun]
  • Don Cherry....fighting.....pinkos......commie bastards......european name.......rawr........Nucks Misconduct's very own Mark takes on the latest Cherry rant which I just summed up for you so succinctly.  It's a great ead and I highly recommend you read it over at [Hockey in Society]
  • Ta-Da, my boy Thomas Drance, got a sweet sweet interview with Elliot Friedman. Sadly, they talked stats. BUT it's awesome that Ta-Da is moving up in the world. One of our own is going to make it! We shall soon rule the world! My plan of surrounding myself with successful people so I can ride their coat tails is working! Give it a read at [Canucks Army]


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Time to start planning the parade/riot. Pick up a brick, and throw it.

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by van Malmsteen on Oct 7, 2011 10:23 AM PDT reply actions  

I like the idea of Samuelsson and Sturm bringing the team down from the inside. Sort of a nefarious Detroit/Boston plan to take this team out at the knees.

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by Yankee Canuck on Oct 7, 2011 10:49 AM PDT reply actions  

It’s funny that you said knees when referring to a plot involving Sturm

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Oct 7, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

my friend put this on FB, too funny

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by missy on Oct 7, 2011 11:58 AM PDT reply actions  

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeec for making me laugh

by The Stanchion on Oct 7, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well done

Missy.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 9, 2011 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Bruins lost. This pleases me. Bryzgalov got a win. This pleases me more. Marchand scored the lone Bruins goal. I hear he celebrated by getting a tattoo. “Number one pack scorrer in the HNL” Read more about the awesome Bruins loss at [Broad Street Hockey]

As I was watching the 3rd period of that game, I caught myself rooting for the Flyers, and wishing that Chara trips, crashes awkwardly into the boards, and breaks his leg, which ends his 2011/12 season. Weird, how your emotions can play tricks on you..

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by AttilaS on Oct 7, 2011 12:26 PM PDT reply actions  

i often find myself rooting for the Flyers. they seem to be the least annoying out of the good teams out East.
i think this roots back to the 2010 playoffs. visited BSH all 4 rounds.

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by missy on Oct 7, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought Malkin

was horrendous last night. I didn’t feel he did a good job of keeping the puck at all and seemed to spend most of the night sliding harmlessly across the ice on his backside. Neal was good, and was a hell of a pickup for them back in march. Malkin however, didn’t impress me in the least, even with the shootout goal because shootouts are stupid.

by Kent Basky on Oct 7, 2011 12:49 PM PDT reply actions  

He seemed like he was a bratty child. Our D did a really good job, overall to agitate him and make him a mediocre player.

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by Vancouverguy on Oct 7, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gotta fix your sig sir

Unless mouth impregnation is your tease to twitter. And if so? BRAVO!

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by Yankee Canuck on Oct 7, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hrm

I thought he shielded the puck quite well and made a lot of good passes. I thought he tried to beat too many people one on one, but I liked what I saw.

Neal was a beast on the puck, though.

by The Stanchion on Oct 7, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I also noticed Malkin looks incredibly awkward on faceoffs. He doesn’t try to get low or anything.

I think Neal is going to be amazing this year – especially if Crosby comes back and they put him on his wing

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by Semi_Colon on Oct 7, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

So

Lui did actually make some nice saves last night too right?

Going to be a LONG season if we are doing the “blame the goalie” thing all year. The guy said he should have had those. He was up front, and honest.

Can we cut him a break this season on all the hyperbole?

Just a thought.

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by vancitydan on Oct 7, 2011 12:55 PM PDT reply actions  

I really thought Luongo was bad last night, but it was one game, and it’s October. I am truly not worried.

by The Stanchion on Oct 7, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

The whole team was shit until near the end of the second, but turned it around. He probably will as well

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by Semi_Colon on Oct 7, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

You thought he was bad because of the result.

If CoHo’s shot trickles in, its a different vibe.

Reading Twitter, here, and anywhere Canuck fans voice their opinion, there is entirely too much BS commentary ( not you Stanch’ your great!) about 2 shots and one frigging game. The shootout getting broken down like its game frigging Seven!

I honestly thought maybe people would cut the guy some slack. Regardless, chalk it up to being a bit rusty and shut up about it.

But no, he was “bad” and thats it.

Like I said, if thats the way its going to be all year, its going to be a LONG one!

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by vancitydan on Oct 7, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

we are already well on pace for a long year.
as i said in the season preview post, Luongo will have a crappy October, but then tear up the league in November-December.

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by missy on Oct 7, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s going to be an even longer season if we baby him when he has a bad game and take people on Twitter seriously.

The guy let in a really bad goal and sucks in shootouts. Fleury also let in a a really bad goal. That should be the end of it.

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by ShiftySC on Oct 7, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

no one said "baby him"

 I am just saying its too much. every goal gets viewed through that lens, by the media and by extension the fans.

for instance, last night, both TSN and SNET, in their hilights, used negative descriptions, and talked of Lui “failing”, while Fleury’s kick in goal was “unlucky”

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by vancitydan on Oct 7, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

The media monster on Luongo has taken off, he will be stuck with the negativity forever methinks. Once something sticks, it’s almost impossible to shake it. Jiri Tlusty will always be that naked cell phone guy.

by The Stanchion on Oct 7, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Media/Social media. Not just mainstream. Oh my kingdom for an edit button.

by The Stanchion on Oct 7, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

its easy to shake

we just have to stop going for the easy attack.

The guy knew he should have had a couple, and said so.

Its easy to shake if media does not go for the easy narrative for their story.

THATS what I get annoyed at, is all.

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by vancitydan on Oct 7, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just because he said he had a bad game

Doesn’t mean we can’t say the same thing too. That’s not going for an easy attack.

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by Semi_Colon on Oct 7, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

again

its the amount.

Like I said below I think, the way SNET, TSN, and even CBC during the broadcast couch it, its Lui “BAD”, and Fleury “unlucky” for a goal just as bad as the one that went in on Lui from the same place.

I have no problem saying he should have had those two. He said the same himself. I just dislike how quick, and “easy” the media goes for that narrative, instead of cutting a Vezina finalist a break for one game. Iaian McIntyre is the only one that wrote anything like that yesterday

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by vancitydan on Oct 7, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with you

about the media going for the lowest common denominator, which is Luongo bashing. But just like watching the 2-hour car chase on the evening news, people always seem to enjoy bashing him. So, they will keep doing it as long as Luongo plays hockey.

So, we might as well get used to it, because it is not going to go away for another decade.

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by AttilaS on Oct 7, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

The media definitely does that. But a lot of the time people here and around the tubes really baby Luongo, which I think stems from so many people dissecting his every move and hating his guts no matter what. It’s the natural reaction. But when he has a bad game and lets in bad goals it’s still fair to say so, and it’s not because of the result.

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by ShiftySC on Oct 7, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s kind of bullshit. If we won I would have thought Luongo had a great game? I disagree. Quite strongly.

by The Stanchion on Oct 7, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I dont mean bullshit in an “IM ANGRY RAWR” kind of way, I just think I am not getting swept up in the result

by The Stanchion on Oct 7, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

If we had won the game, I have no doubt that the Luongo bashing would have proceeded apace.

I find the amount of invective the problem is all. Besides….you know I am right, if CoHo’s shot trickles in, its a “win in spite of him” vibe, but less negative. Again, was not saying you specifically…just that even the win would have been viewed as "well, thank God that CoHo saves Lui’s ass!…when he made some saves last night that, even with the 2 bad goals, got us to the point, you know?

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by vancitydan on Oct 7, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently we’re not the only city with a goalie controversy…

This year.

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by raincity on Oct 7, 2011 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Vokoun

This year.

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by raincity on Oct 7, 2011 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think its funny

that people were saying ‘the veterans on this team look like crap and it’s AV’s fault for not playing them in the preseason’ yet also raving about how well the Sedins & Burr played.

by Kent Basky on Oct 7, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think he was bad. He let in 2 PP goals which can be attributed to a very shitty PK in the first period. The SH goal he was screened on and the rest of the game he was great except for the shootout in which he is usually shitty. For an October game, I thought Luongo was actually pretty good.

by marcness52 on Oct 7, 2011 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

good to know

where we can get a new one once we’ve used this one up!

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by Pseuccubus on Oct 7, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

the shipping costs

will be prohibitive tho…

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by Twitchy2010 on Oct 7, 2011 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just updated the stat sidebar

Fun parts: Sturm leads the PK TOI for forwards, Hodgson and Salo lead blocked shots and and I think every single user on this website has a better chance of starting in the offensive zone this year than Tanev.

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by Yankee Canuck on Oct 7, 2011 2:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Apparently Mike Duco has made his triumphant return to twitter after being violently deposed by angry Canucks fans in June.

http://twitter.com/duco1787

He has pledged $1000 to charity when he reaches 5000 followers

by Shand on Oct 7, 2011 2:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Luongo in the shootout looked like the OT goal from game #6 against Chicago last year

But I didn’t see “flat on his face for no particular reason” on your list of his accomplishments from last night.

by Twin Terror on Oct 7, 2011 7:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Slow start last night

And that goes for both teams. The Penguins got their act together sooner than the Canucks did. Happier with the defense than the forwards, happier (marginally) with the forwards than the goaltending.

All in all, it looked like the first game of the season. Proceed!

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by Thursday on Oct 8, 2011 12:34 AM PDT reply actions  

If you think you’ve somehow come up with a way to prove that last nights game from Luongo is proof that he needs to be traded, do us all a favor, put down the beer, and go get some sleep.

Oh, there will be plenty of those coming out of the woodwork lol…

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by Canuckles on Oct 8, 2011 8:33 AM PDT reply actions  

Thanks for the shout-out, Stanchion!

I just saw this now, been away for the weekend. Appreciate the link love!

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