SBN Western Conference Round-Up
Last week the SBN Western Conference team managers took a quick vote to see who ranks 1-15 heading into the start of the regular season. The final totals and average scores are below:
| Team | Rank | Average Score |
| Vancouver Canucks | 1 | 1.43 |
| San Jose Sharks | 2 | 2 |
| Detroit Red Wings | 3 | 3.29 |
| Chicago Blackhawks | 4 | 4.36 |
| Los Angeles Kings | 5 | 4.57 |
| Nashville Predators | 6 | 6.86 |
| St. Louis Blues | 7 | 7.29 |
| Columbus Blue Jackets | 8 | 8.29 |
| Anaheim Ducks | 9 | 8.64 |
| Minnesota Wild | 10 | 10.29 |
| Phoenix Coyotes | 11 | 11.64 |
| Dallas Stars | 12 | 12 |
| Calgary Flames | 13 | 12.71 |
| Colorado Avalanche | 14 | 13.14 |
| Edmonton Oilers | 15 | 13.5 |
...and people claim the Northwest was the weakest division in the league. Pish posh.
After the jump we'll look at the four teams that round out the top four and how Vancouver should stack up against them once this stuff starts counting for real in 24 hours.

San Jose Sharks - Remember last summer when most media outlets got all hot and bothered about how the Canucks looked on paper due to their offseason moves? Those accolades belong with San Jose now and for good reason: they pitched away Dany "no seriously I can score" Heatley and Devin "no seriously I can grow facial hair" Setoguchi and Minnesota giftwrapped Martin Havlat and Brent Burns in return. The addition of Burns makes their defense remarkably well-rounded. Up front is no picnic either: Havlat will join the likes of Couture and Clowe while the Thornton line will remain dangerous as always. Niemi and Niittymaki together are plenty confident to keep the puck out of the net.
Understated Summer Move: Michal Handzus. I've had a man crush on him since his Philly days. He won't be confused with Malhotra, but Handzus will help them on the PK and (incoming bias alert) is a better fit for that team than Kyle f'ing Wellwood (speaking of which, has he slagged on San Jose since he wasn't invited back or does he do his trash-talking only during the regular season?).
How Vancouver should stack up against them: Heading into the playoffs last year the conventional wisdom suggested it was their depth on offense verse Vancouver's on defense. I think that still holds true but I think Vancouver's speed can continue to cause them headaches, especially as you move away from the Boyles & Murrays of the world. Vancouver also saw how effective their PP can be, so it's not in their interest to parade to the box as they accustomed to doing. Regardless, these are the games you should definitely circle on the calendar as the teams usually put on a good show.

Chicago Blackhawks - Say what you will about his salary, but losing Brian Campbell hurts. Campbell, I thought, was their best defenseman during the first round and his loss is the Western Conference's gain. That said Chicago remains a strong, deep team. Not nearly as mind-numbing as two seasons ago, but Toews, Hossa and Kane remain the top threats, Bolland does he part extremely well and they have some others in the mix - Frolik, Olesz, Lepisto - that will make them a pain to play. I suppose it's around here I'm supposed to mention Carcillo, but whatever...Vancouver picked up Weise yesterday, so checkmate madhouse.
Understated Summer Move: Steve Montador. He's not a sexy pick to replace Campbell, but he's cheap and should be quietly effective on the second pairing. Remember when Montador was rumored to end up in Vancouver and we were all pleasantly happy? Just forget that forever now.
How Vancouver should stack up against them: I think Vancouver stacks up pretty well with the Hawks no matter what style of game unfolds: the run-and-gun or the conservative, sit-on-the-lead scenarios. However Chicago's biggest threat remains their ability to score and, as Roberto Luongo knows, that can happen in bunches. Don't miss these games either.

Detroit Red Wings - Like Campbell with Chicago, the Wings will miss Rafalski. I actually really like Ian White as a replacement, but no one will be confusing him with #28 either. Lidstrom is back for his millionth season and will head a defense that has heavy hitters from Stuart to Kronwall to Commodore now (ATTN VAN forwards: keep your skulls on a swivel please). Up front you have the same cast of characters from last season, seemingly only losing Modano and not much more.
Understated Summer Move: Letting Modano retire? Signing Fabian Brunnstrom? No no...I'll go with Patrick Eaves (can you get more understated than Eaves?) He signed a new three-year deal over the summer and gives Detroit a responsible, young grinder at a low price. Sort of like Jannik Hansen just less Danish.
How Vancouver should stack up against them: Vancouver typically has problems with Detroit's top guns (unless Andrew Alberts is around to blow up Datsyuk) so keeping them off the board is the issue. Luongo usually plays well against the Wings and I hate to be the zillionth person to mention it but they have a good number of players who are simply galloping towards the sunset. Doesn't mean that the Wings don't belong in the top five nor that they won't be as threatening as last year, but as the game progresses the fresh legs usually win. So again a speedy Vancouver defense and good transition/board work should make for some interesting third periods.

Los Angeles Kings - Most of us who follow the NHL closely have been waiting for the Kings rebuild to finally pop. It has flirted with this jump the past few seasons but this summer may have catapulted it way over the line. LA is ridiculous down the middle (Richards, Kopitar, Stoll) and their wings are more absurd (Gagne, Penner, Brown, Williams). Doughty and Mitchell lead the defense in front of Quick who had a fantastic season last year. They even managed to dump Smyth who, like him or not, never seemed to fit in La-La land. About the only thing you can hold against them is their cap situation but the Kings just made the Pacific an even nastier road trip that previously anticipated.
Understated Summer Move: Colin Fraser! He's totally healthy man.
How Vancouver should stack up against them: As much as I like their forwards, the loss of Handzus and Simmonds makes their bottom six weaker to my eye. Ethan Moreau is not an answer to that problem, but similar to Vancouver, their bottom lines could be a rotation of auditions on a monthly basis. Doesn't make playing them any easier: VAN and LA usually team up for low-scoring affairs, but that may change quickly if their sudden depth up front is allowed to flex its muscle too often. I'm definitely interested to see if the preseason hype for the Kings will come to fruition.
One last point to these top five: the divisional battles take a chunk out of everyone but Vancouver. Just like a good Chicago team had to slide assbackwards into the playoffs last year, that could be Detroit this season. The Central is filthy and the Pacific just got worst. I know we've debated the divisional advantage before but it seems more stark now. Not that I'm complaining: it wasn't long ago we had to deal with the Sakic's and Forberg's destroying us on a regular clip, but it magnifies the importance of not coughing up points to Edmonton or Colorado because it may be slim pickings when the other folks in our conference family show up.
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This years EA sports simulation was done. Pittsburgh winning the cup in 6 games against chicago. Vancouver wins presidents trophy but loses in 7 against chicago in the conference finals…
by kiyotok on Oct 5, 2011 9:18 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
PIT/CHI is the sexy pic if you read around
Or SJ/WAS
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by Yankee Canuck on Oct 5, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Pit/Chi
Seems like the “lazy” pick to me
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
SJ/Was
Seems like the “these guys made the most interesting moves so we think they’ll do really good” pick.
Like we were last year
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Yeah wasn’t last year VAN/WAS?
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by Yankee Canuck on Oct 5, 2011 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions
not a big fan of the expectations
im trying to go into this season with 0 expectations, but everyone picking VAN to finish first again makes me nervous
Well I think these rankings reflect now, not necessarily where everyone ends up. Which is a compliment considering we’re missing two/thirds of the second line.
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by Yankee Canuck on Oct 5, 2011 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Hard not to expect much out of Vancouver
They’re the best team (by a HUGE margin) in a bad division, so they should make up any points lost against the other 10 Western teams with relative ease. They’re also still pretty much the same team they were last year, although Kesler being out for the beginning of the season may keep them with the pack to start the year.
If Vancouver is not a top-2 seed by the end of the year, I’ll be extremely shocked.
thats a big compliment from a wings fan (from my pov)
one of the biggest reasons i dont like Detroit is because they have always been the favored team, not saying i hate detroit i think its more envy. you guys are like the patriots of hockey and i do find myself cheering for the underdog most of the time.
i would be ok with a van det wcf
Understandable
We’re used to the Wings being the favourites and have to deal with everyone wanting them to lose. It makes the solidarity among fans that much stronger.
It’s funny, but I do the exact same thing in other sports; I’ll cheer against the Yankees and Steelers, and probably the Lakers if I watched basketball.
Oh my god, somebody picked Pittsburg to win the cup........SHOCKING!!!
I'm warning you! I have ADHD and I know how to use it!!!
Good job Giants, now win 3 more world series titles and then you just might be worthy of being mentioned in the same league as the A's.
THAT IS NABOKOV IN NET NOT NITTYMAKISHUTUP!!!!!!!!!!
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by Diamondback15 on Oct 5, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Thank you
The fact you didn’t use the “ZOMG THE WINGS ARE OLD!!!” excuse as a main reason why Vancouver should play well against them warms my entitled, arrogant heart.
While the Wings’ core is on the older side, this year will see the infusion of younger talent into the lineup on a more consistent basis. Darren Helm and Patrick Eaves are both going to see more ice time, as will Justin Abdelkader, while rookies like Corey Emmerton and Jan Mursak (who will miss the first 2-3 months of the season with a broken ankle) will get ice time. Jakub Kindl should push for a top-6 spot with Commodore, who is going to miss the first couple of games with a knee injury. But Commie is the #7 guy right now and won’t see significant playing time unless someone sucks cough Ericsson cough or there’s an injury.
Good write-up. Looking forward to the season.
i always notice helm
when im watching detroit play, hes just so fast it blows my mind, but i dont know a ton about him
He’s insanely fast. His problem is that sometimes his feet move too fast for his hands, so he’s still developing the offensive side of his game. But he’s the Wings’ #1 penalty killer now that Kris Draper has retired, and there are many who think he’s got the potential to be a second-line center in a year or two.
Out of the non-“stars” on the Wings, Helm is probably the most loved player on the team.
the detroit game the other day
i think they were playing the hawks? could be wrong there but he beat the d man so clean around the outside, he was going so fast i thought he would go straight into the boards but made a nice pass to abdelkader(sp) , very nice goal
The Wings are old
There…now it has been covered. :)
You think last year's riot was bad, wait and see what happens if my kid doesn't get fed on time.
You didn't lie about this
The Central is filthy
The Kings are the ones that probably scare me the most. They have been difficult to play against the last couple of years and if Quick has another stellar season watch out.
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I almost expect Quick to have a bit of a slide this year.
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Wouldn't be a huge deal
as long as Mr. picked to be Norris Doughty and the rest of the D keep pucks from him
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Think they’re gonna be a pretty offensive minded team. Fans in LA are gonna see some pretty entertaining hockey.
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Just one more day (for you guys at least)
Hockey is back!
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YAYYYYYYYYYYYYY
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
I'm working on my score predictions
Got to beat you this year Semi.
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To think even your worse team should still be miles ahead of potentially two to three of the NW teams is saying something.
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by Yankee Canuck on Oct 5, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Poor Columbus
I think I know why they want out of the Western Conference. They want out of the Central Division.
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Even as a fan of a team who desperately wants to move East, if I were a governor, I’d vote to let Columbus move first.
They really haven’t built any Western Conference rivalries (thanks to being horrible for so long), but there’s a good Ohio/Pennsylvania rivalry which could be had moving them to the conference where they’d play the Penguins and Flyers more often. That building gets absolutely stuffed with Penguins fans when Pittsburgh comes to town.
by J.J. from Kansas on Oct 5, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
You just know it's going to be Detroit that moves
I really would hate to see that because you guys are our biggest rivals. Our games have been epic for a very long time.
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Oh yes Van/Chi has a rivalry
It’s just more of a playoff thing. The Det/Chi one has been present for many years.
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Unfortunately the way the schedule is set, it will remain that way, barring restructuring. Love the Chicago / Canuck matchup.
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Let’s do it in the Conference Finals this year though
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
You guys trying to give me heartburn?
I guess it is inevitable. We’ve met in all the other rounds recently so the Conference Final is next.
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Move the Panthers (are there really 2 teams in Florida?) to Washington State or Oregon and slide the Wings and Jackets over to the east. It won’t happen but it would be the perfect scenario in my mind. Are there really 2 teams in Florida? Did I already say that?
February 28 - Sidney Crosby scores the dramatic winning goal in overtime of the Olympic final, then puts his gold medal in his trophy case next to his Stanley Cup ring. Meanwhile, Alex Ovechkin scores the dramatic winning goal in overtime of the Olympic final, then puts his copy of NHL 11 back on the shelf next to Guitar Hero.
Please don't go!
I was hoping we could make it a tradition that we would meet in the second round and then send you guys home, although with much less heart attacks than last year.
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Good job Giants, now win 3 more world series titles and then you just might be worthy of being mentioned in the same league as the A's.
THAT IS NABOKOV IN NET NOT NITTYMAKISHUTUP!!!!!!!!!!
San Jose: Being Kept save from ferocious enemies by the Sharks and Earthquakes since 91 and 96.
by Diamondback15 on Oct 5, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Vancouver also saw how effective their PP can be, so it’s not in their interest to parade to the box as they accustomed to doing.
You really only watched two Sharks games last year, didn’t you?
You guys didn’t have the second best powerplay in the league?
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
I think ...........I don't know what he was trying to say.
Maybe he felt you were saying we won’t be a threat at even strength?
Or he may just be high on the great drugs we have in California.
I'm warning you! I have ADHD and I know how to use it!!!
Good job Giants, now win 3 more world series titles and then you just might be worthy of being mentioned in the same league as the A's.
THAT IS NABOKOV IN NET NOT NITTYMAKISHUTUP!!!!!!!!!!
San Jose: Being Kept save from ferocious enemies by the Sharks and Earthquakes since 91 and 96.
by Diamondback15 on Oct 5, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
The sentence itself is confusing. It’s hard to tell who is parading to the penalty box.
My bigger disagreement is that I think we have similar depth on defense now that we have Burns and White and you lost Error. Also, the Nucks are probably even in offensive depth now too barring injuries, since our 3rd line thinned offensively at least.
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