The Noon Number: 248
by camcharron on Oct 3, 2011 12:00 PM PDT
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The Vancouver Canucks allowed 185 goals last NHL season, which is the lowest goals against total in the NHL since the lockout, except for the 2008 Detroit Red Wings, who conceded 184. While Chris Osgood regressed the next season and his save percentage dipped to an .887, the Red Wings gave up 244 goals the next season. The Canucks are icing a very similar defensive lineup and Roberto Luongo is a much more stable goalie than Osgood, so I don't expect the 185 number to change.
Well, I do, but not by a whole heck of a lot. I would be pretty surprised to see the Canucks concede more than 200 goals, particularly considering what they went through last season can't repeat itself: Injuries to Dan Hamhuis, Alexander Edler, Manny Malhotra et. al. Having at least one of those guys for the full season should make up for the inevitable Luongo regression.
So, since I'm discussing 200, where does 248 come in? Well, if you remember our Pythagorean Expectation applied to the National Hockey League, 248 is the number of goals the Vancouver Canucks will need to score if they want to earn the first overall seed in the Western Conference again.
(To calculate Pythagorean points, I went with the more "accepted" interpretation, rather than buzzing around with overtime games. I simply multiplied GF ^ 2 / [ GF ^ 2 + GA ^ 2 ] by the number of games in a season, 82 to come up with the wins total, then assumed 10 points of overtime losses)
This number represents a couple of different things: One is that 185 goals is obviously not very much given up the previous season and the Canucks deserve a huge pat on the back for being able to ice such a good offensive roster and still manage to keep up play in the other half. Two is that the average number of the 2nd place team in each conference since the lockout (and the added bonus points from the shootout came to be) is a little over 108 points.
248 goals for and 200 against is a good barometer for this team and would earn them a little over 109 points, which should win them the conference. The Canuckleheads scored 262 last season (again, those totals reflect shootout goals) so it's a very reasonable expectation, even without Ryan Kesler for a while. In the comments, you can shoot numbers at a wall and predict how many each Canuck will get to give us a round total of 248.
Personally, I think Christopher Tanev will score 40 goals, leaving the remainder of the team to battle for the remaining 218, but if Tanev wants to score more to lighten the load on the rest of the team, that's fine by me as well. Just save a few tallies for Mark Mancari.
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Shooting totals
Daniel – 40g
Henrik – 20g
Burrows – 30g
total: 90g
Ultimately, I think 30 and 20 are good solid numbers for Henrik and Daniel given past performance. I also think that 40 for Daniel was not an abherration from last year but a reflection of the level he and Henrik are at right now. If you remember, he was pacing very well after he got back from his injury in 2009/2010.
Kesler – 25g
Sammulssen – 20g
Sturm – 10g
Hodgson – 15g
Raymond – 6g
total: 75g
I think kesler’s ppg totals are sustainable, but he’s in for a regression in terms of goals, due to his injury and Sh%. He’ll rack up assists and some decent goal totals, but he will also be feeding his expected linemates.
Sturm&Sammy are similar players for me, but I think Sammy will have a bit of a rebound year and accumulate a few more goals by virtue of him being the established player playing more games.
Hodgson will play at centre then hopefully move to wing and do decent damage in the goals dept.
Raymond won’t impress. His injury negating any hope of a productive offseason, following a dissapointing year just mean he’s in for another rough time.
Malhotra – 10g
Hansen – 15g
Higgins – 10g
total: 35g
I think our third line will contribute decently, but their defensive duties will keep their numbers limited. Hansen is starting to develop hands, Malhotra (who will see more limited PP time with Hodgson playing there, assuming he stays with the team) will have a few spurts and SH goals. Ultimately I think we can expect decent totals from the 3rd line, due to a few streaky periods coming fromt the talent there.
Lapierre – 8g
Oreo – 2g
Volpatti – 2g
Duco – 4g
total: 16g
I see the 4th line producing a little bit, with Lapierre’s numbers a little bit extended due to his more versatile role (having, you know, some hockey talent). I think Duco sees some call-up time and shows some talent, but this is the 4th line we are talking about…
That’s 206 on the front.
Edler – 15g
Salo – 10 g
total: 25 g
With increased PP time and more time playing offensive roles (as opposed to covering for Ehrhoff’s mistakes) I think these are reasonable numbers from the “top” pairing
Hamhuis – 8g
Bieksa – 8g
total: 16g
Both players will see some special teams time with a few goals and can be expected to chip in offensively. These numbers are not completely egregious but account for the Canucks’ system of getting their D to jump into the play.
Tanev – 3g
Ballard – 5g
total: 8g
Ballard had a bad year and Tanev played very little. But this should be a better year for both and will see some offensive input as well as possibly some time on the PP when the injury bug inevitably bites the back end.
Rome/Alberts/Everyone Else – 2g
C’mon. Even 2 is generous.
That’s 257 goals, which I think is conservative. While some players will get a bit more streaky, there will be injuries too. Plus I think there will be some regressions due to start of season injuries.
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by Canuckles on Oct 3, 2011 2:14 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Dead-on
This is probably the most realistic expectation for the team.
The only change I would make is bumping down Salo’s total to 5, I just can’t see him playing enough games to make it to double digits.
by NeckbeardGoon on Oct 3, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I also love boobies.
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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Oct 3, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Boobies are awesome
I love boobies.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 3, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
who doesnt love
Boobies?
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by Canuckles on Oct 3, 2011 4:11 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Crazy people
that’s who.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 4, 2011 1:35 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree with everything except sturm, I really believe he’ll be able to hit the 20 goal mark. He was scoring at a 24 goal pace last year before injury, I think he’ll be able to do very well here
by kiyotok on Oct 3, 2011 3:09 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
sturm needs to
A) stay healthy B) stay consistent and C) contend with Hodgson, If he wants to hit 20. I wonder about his ability to hit any of these, let alone all three
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by Canuckles on Oct 3, 2011 4:14 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
I think he can do, he’s been able to rebound from serious injury before. 07/08 he had a 27 goal season, followed by only playing 19 game in 08/09, he then hit 22 goals and 37 points in 09/10, and the season next was averaging a better GPG than the year before. I know he’s older now, and this is the second serious injury to contend with, but I think we’ll all be pleasantly surprised with his production…
by kiyotok on Oct 3, 2011 11:34 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Ok, here are my Canuck predictions!
Forwards:
First Line:
C: Henrik Sedin, 81 games played/20 goals/82 assists/102 points
LW: Daniel Sedin: 80 games played/50 goals/60 assists/110 points
RW: Alex Burrows: 75 games played/35 goals/30 assists/65 points
Total Goals: 105
Second Line:
C: Ryan Kesler: 70 games played/40 goals/30 assists/70 points
C/LW: Cody Hodgeson: 77 games/17 goals/23 assists/40 points
RW: Mikael Samuelsson: 79 games played/22 goals/33 assists/55 points
Total Goals: 79
Third Line:
C: Manny Malhotra: 72 games played/11 goals/ 19 assists/30 points
LW: Marco Sturm: 76 games played/22 goals/11 assists/33 points
RW: Jannick Hansen: 82 games played/15 goals/25 assists/40 points
Total Goals: 48
Fourth Line:
C: Maxim Lapierre: 78 games played/10 goals/15 assists/25 points
LW: Chris Higgins: 77 games played/10 goals/20 assists/30 points
RW: Victor Oreskovich: 50 games played/2 goals/3 assists/5 points
Total Goals: 22 goals
Wildcard: Mason Raymond: 41 games played/5 goals/10 assists/15 points
Total Forward Goals: 254
Defense:
First Pairing:
Kevin Bieksa: 75 games played/10 goals/30 assists/40points
Dan Hamhuis: 80 games played/7 goals/25 assists/32 points
Total Goals: 17
Second Pairing:
Alex Edler: 77 games played/13 goals/37 assists/50 points
Sami Salo: 65 games playes/8 goals/27 assists/35 points
Total Goals: 21
Third Pairing:
Keith Ballard: 80 games played/5 goals/20 assists/25 points
Chris Tanev: 82 games played/5 goals/15 assists/20 points
Total Goals: 10
Extras:
Aaron Rome: 20 games/1 goal/2 assists
Andrew Alberts: 13 games/1 goals/ 2 assists
Total Defense Goals: 50
Total Goals Scored: 304
Why not?
Goalies:
Roberto Luongo: 52 games played/35 wins/2.13 GAA/.923 SV%
Cory Schneider: 30 games played/20 wins/2.07 GAA/.927 SV%
Total Goals Against: 173
Why not?
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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Oct 3, 2011 2:30 PM PDT reply actions
Some other predictions:
Top Goal Scorers (at least 40 goals):
Alex Ovechkin: 60 goals
Steven Stamkos: 55 goals
Daniel Sedin: 50 goals
Zach Parise: 48 goals
Ilya Kovalchuk: 47 goals
Jarome Iginla: 45 goals
Corey Perry: 41 goals
Rick Nash: 40 goals
Evgeni Malkin: 40 goals
Top play-makers (at least 60 assists)
Henrik Sedin: 82 assists
Niklas Backstrom: 70 assists
Ryan Getzlaf: 65 assists
Brad Richards: 60 assists
Pavel Datsyuk: 60 assists
Evgeni Malkin:60 assists
Alex ovechkin: 60 assists
Joe Thornton: 60 assists
Top point getters ( at least 100 points)
Alex Ovechkin: 120 points
Daniel Sedin: 110 points
Henrik Sedin: 102 points
Steven Stamkos: 100 points
Evgeni Malkin: 100 points
Niklas Backstrom: 100 points
Top Defenseman Goals (at least 15 goals):
Mike Green: 30 goals
Shea Weber: 25 goals
PK Subban: 20 goals
Lubomir Visnovsky: 18 goals
Zdeno Chara: 17 goals
Duncan Keith: 15 goals
Drew Doughty: 15 goals
Erik Karlsson: 15 goals
Tyler Myers: 15 goals
Top Defenseman play-makers (at least 50 assists)
Drew Doughty: 60 assists
Duncan Keith: 55 assists
Dan Boyle 55 assists
Mike Green: 50 assists
Shea Weber: 50 assists
Lubomir Visnovsky: 50 assists
Kris Letand: 50 assists
Top defenseman points (at least 60)
Mike Green: 80 points
Shea Weber: 75 points
Duncan Keith: 70 points
Lubomir Visnovsky: 67 points
Dan Boyle: 66 points
Drew Doughty: 65 points
Kris Letang: 60 points
PK Subban: 60 points
Top Goalies Goals Against Average:
Ryan Miller: 1.97
Tim Thomas: 1.98
Tuuka Rask: 2.01
Pekka Rinne: 2.05
Corey Schnieder: 2.07
Robert Luongo: 2.13
Tomas Vokoun: 2.15
Goaltenders highest save precentages:
Tomas Vokoun: .930
Ryan Miller: .928
Tim Thomas .927
Corey Schneider: .927
Tuuka Rask: .925
Pekka Rinne: .925
Roberto Luongo .923
Awards:
Art Ross: Alex Ovechkin
Rocket Richard: Alex Ovechkin
Hart Trophy: Alex Ovechkin, Tomas Vokoun, Daniel Sedin
Ted Lindsay: Alex Ovechkin, Daniel Sedin, Tomas Vokoun
Selke: Johnathon Toews, Ryan Kesler, Pavel Datsyuk
Norris: Shea Weber, Duncan Keith, Mike Green
Vezina: Tomas Vokoun, Tim Thomas, Ryan Miller
William Jennings: Roberto Luongo/Corey Schneider
Jack Adams: Lindy Ruff, Barry Trotz, Mike Babcock
Presidents Trophy: Washington Capitols
Campbell Bowl: Washington Capitols
Prince of Wales: Vancoucer Canucks
Stanley Cup: Vancouver Canucks
Conn Smythe: Ryan Kesler
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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Oct 3, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
you are really pumped about this season eh?
I think you are too optimistic about the scoring. We basically need everyone to replicate or build on career years and I wonder if that is possible
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by Canuckles on Oct 3, 2011 4:18 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
I certainty am!
True, not everyone will meet/exceed career years. But those predictions take into account recent history. there’s no reason to not expect those numbers from these guys. But anything can happen.
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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Oct 3, 2011 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Impossible. In particular, Kesler had way above-average shooting% numbers, which is bound to go down. I remember reading from one of our resident stat guys that MayRay is due for a rebound though.
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Right now a rebound
for MayRay is walking upright again.
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by Section 312 on Oct 3, 2011 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I was thinking stats. And I’m an optimist.
Remember when we thought it was a good deal of business giving him the 2 year deal? It looks even better now, doesn’t it?
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This is a fun little trip down memory lane
http://www.nucksmisconduct.com/2010/7/22/1582397/july-22-frozen-squid#42700041
Bieksa will be traded. Raymond could have a better year than Bobby Ryan. Man I wish people would listen to me more often.
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by Section 312 on Oct 3, 2011 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I wish they pulled the trigger on Bobby Ryan…..
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by Vancouverguy on Oct 4, 2011 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s probably the reason to this day that I am better at talking to girls when I am drunk and have a little pee on my leg.
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I was hoping you were
Laughing at the fact that I said many many things in that thread that were wrong and 2 thy were half right and claimed it as a win.
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by Section 312 on Oct 4, 2011 7:17 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I don’t understand the second half of that sentence
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thy
is iphone trying to correct me when I wrote something not close enough to “that”
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by Section 312 on Oct 4, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait a tick
Luongo wins the Jennings again, and no Vezina nom at least?
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Expecting career years
out of Daniel at his age is….optimistic. To say the least. Same with Kesler. Remember Burrows last year? It’s tough to miss preseaso and come back in the regular season and get up to speed. He may play 70 games but it’s more like 60 at full speed.
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by Section 312 on Oct 3, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Daniel Alfredsson had his career year at 33.
And Daniel is a better offensive player.
Without the Injury, I would be predicting a 50 goal season from him as well!
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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Oct 3, 2011 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd feel more confident
if there was more than one example!!
But I sure hope you are right.
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by Section 312 on Oct 3, 2011 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Mikael Samuelsson! 33 years old.
Markus Naslund! 29 years old.
Johan Franzen, 29 years old.
I’m sure there are others as well.
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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Oct 3, 2011 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Kristian Huselius, 28.
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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Oct 3, 2011 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Saku Koivu, 32!
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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Oct 3, 2011 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Well all of the ones
where the guy is less than 31 are irrelevant.
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by Section 312 on Oct 3, 2011 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Not really.
What’s an extra year or two? Even if you disqualify 29 and under, 30 and up should be fair game!
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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Oct 3, 2011 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Which would leave you 4 examples.
Including 3 who were older than Daniel (Alfredsson, Samuelsson and Koivu)
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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Oct 3, 2011 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
5. Sami Salo, 32.
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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Oct 3, 2011 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Daymond Langkow, 30.
only a year younger!
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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Oct 3, 2011 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
6. Kimmo Timonen, 31.
Exact same age!
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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Oct 3, 2011 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Alright, I'm done.
I hope I’ve given credence to my point of view. I feel that I’ve found enough examples, especially of Scandinavians, who have been late bloomer and had career years n their early 30’s.
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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Oct 3, 2011 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions
WAIT, TWO MORE!!!
Tomas Holmstrom, 32
Andrew Brunette, 33
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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Oct 3, 2011 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Ok, another...I can't leave out an all-time great, and a BC boy!
Scott Niedermayer, 33
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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Oct 3, 2011 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Ok, I had to get up to 10!
Zdeno Chara, 31!
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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Oct 3, 2011 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Daniel is a forward
different development curve.
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by Section 312 on Oct 3, 2011 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Lubomir Visnovky just had his carer year...at 34!
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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Oct 3, 2011 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions
1 more point than 05-06
and no more goals. Really? A career year? Okay I would give that to you if he weren’t a D man. But your examples are showing Daniel could possibly score 42 maybe 43. Still not seeing an example that would suggest a 10 goal jump is possible let alone likely.
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by Section 312 on Oct 3, 2011 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not seeing anything suggesting that it's not!
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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Oct 3, 2011 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Except everything
you’ve posted is a one or two goal more than previous high. Not ten. So why aren’t you seeing the evidence suggesting it’s not likely?
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by Section 312 on Oct 3, 2011 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Not everything.
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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Oct 3, 2011 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
D men are irrelevent
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by Section 312 on Oct 3, 2011 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Why?
Sure, different position, but we’re talking offensive numbers. A goal is a goal and an assist is an assist. It’s all valid, baby!
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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Oct 3, 2011 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
What's an extra year or two?
Everything. Literally everything in this case. He’s at his peak and likely to start coming down. His peak is 40. For him to go ten more than that would be pretty close to unprecedented. A guy at 31 having a career year in goals with 10 more than he’s ever had before?
Oh and since we are talking goal scoring Iginla’s peak was in 01-02. A small quibble. Koivu had one more goal than his previous career year. So not seeing examples of a guy past his prime getting 10 more goals than his previous career year.
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by Section 312 on Oct 3, 2011 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions
What have you to base that statement on though?
You claim that his peak is 40. How do you know that?
Other than the fact that he’s 31, what makes you believe that he can’t raise his game even more? Especially after a crushing Finals loss?
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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Oct 3, 2011 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Mountains and mountains and mountains
of statistical evidence. What are you basing your opinion on?
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by Section 312 on Oct 3, 2011 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I would expect most of our guys to regress, more than anything. Dank really had a perfect storm of circumstances.
No injuries, Hank playing at his optimal levels, whopping 75% offensive zone starts, high amounts of PP time, little defensive/PK responsibilities, an epically bad division, I’d be surprised if he even tops over 95 points this season.
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Actually the statistical evidence points that Daniel will at least have a similar year to this last.
And that the possibility is there for further progression.
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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Oct 3, 2011 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
No offence, but what stats are you refering to GMC?
His shooting percentage is at 15.7%, which he’s reached a comparable level 3 different times in his career. Is it even likely he’ll reach that level again? Probably not. Over the last 5 years, he’s scored 36-29-31-29(injury shortened, but using a linear projection model, roughly projects to 40-41 goals) and 41. He’s not playing in more PP time, he’s not playing with anyone new, nor is there anyone drawing top defensive assignments away from the top line.
What’s out there to show that there’s even a better than average chance on him improving on his numbers from last season?
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by Vancouverguy on Oct 4, 2011 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh and I know that 40 is his peak
because it’s the highest he has ever had. How do I know he can’t get 50? I don’t. It’s just extremely unlikely. History suggests damn near impossible. He could get to around 40 again I am sure. Maybe even higher. But 50? Extremely unlikely. Like Brent Sopel getting a hair cut unlikely.
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by Section 312 on Oct 3, 2011 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I still don't see how history suggests that he can't score 50.
Put all numbers aside (even though I still believe that they back me up)
The question is, skill-wise, CAN Daniel score 50? of course he can! The skill is all there. It’s of course a matter of will and circumstance. Will they play out in his favour? Who knows. But there’s no reason to believe that they can’t
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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Oct 3, 2011 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Jarome Iginla, 30
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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Oct 3, 2011 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Pavel Datsyuk was 29, and then repeated it at 30.
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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Oct 3, 2011 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
1 and 2 more than previous high
Not 10 more.
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
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by Section 312 on Oct 3, 2011 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Teemu Selanne, 60 years old.
I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?
by Smoboy41 on Oct 3, 2011 9:34 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
76 goals first season
career year over and done with. Hasn’t been close since.
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by Section 312 on Oct 3, 2011 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Burrows will score all 248 goals
GOD WILLS IT
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 3, 2011 2:36 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
But on the real though
Dank: 40 G
Captain Hank: 20 G
Alex Motherfucking Burrows: 35 G
Sammy: 20 G
Franchise: 19 G
Higgy: 19 G
Sturm: 15 G
Manny: 15 G
Jank: 15 G
Voltron: 5 G
Lappy: 10 G
Reskie: 5 G
Eddie: 17 G
The Undead: 15 G
Hammer: 10 G
Juice: 15 G
Bally: 5 G
Tanev: 10 G
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 3, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
really?
You forgot Kesler?
<3 Boobies!
notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
by Canuckles on Oct 3, 2011 4:19 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
OH GOD
KESLER: ALL THE GOALS IN THE ENTIRE NHL
He’ll hit 30 goals, 70 points IMO.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 4, 2011 1:37 AM PDT up reply actions
and you like
multiples of 5…except for Eddie
You think last year's riot was bad, wait and see what happens if my kid doesn't get fed on time.
Hands of blue
two by two.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 4, 2011 2:21 AM PDT up reply actions
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