Canuck Brunch- 60 Minutes- October 26
by Kent Basky on Oct 26, 2011 1:00 PM PDT
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PrintIt's not too much to ask, I think. A 60 minute effort from the Canucks would be such a treat, as it certainly hasn't happened to date. Even the games they've won thus far haven't seen them play a solid, let-down free game. And while it's hardly something that should induce panic, there's little things that are starting to eat away at me. And yes, once again I am not going to dump this on Luongo. First and foremost? Score first. Seriously. And defence. One of the main reasons why the Canucks finished first overall last season now seems to be an afterthought. And it's not just the defencemen. Last night, the first line especially did a poor job in their own zone, looking lazy and disinterested at times, as they left their goalie hung out to dry. Again.
No time to dwell on last night's disappointing performance, which is usually a good thing. This time around? Not so much. I really hope that it's imparted on our top line just how vital it is that they be the top line. And that means coming back to play defence. It means playing strongly in all 3 periods. It's not like they can't just take over a game anytime they want, as they showed last night. But this whole leaving things until the 3rd to kick into that high gear has to stop. It's nice to know they can do it if they need to, but personally we've seen too much of that already.
I thought the 2nd line played decently last night, and showed all of the signs of trying to adjust to a new linemate. In a couple games, those missed passes will be tape to tape, and we will see just how well Ryan Kesler and David Booth can gel. They had a number of chances, and showed lots of jump, but the timing was just a smidge off. It will come, and that line will give teams fits.
Many thought that Booth's arrival meant doom for Cody Hodgson, but the kid turned in a decent game, with a nice goal in response to the Oilers' 3 goal outburst. Manny Malhotra however appears to be struggling on the wing, and hasn't looked right yet this season. Not overly alarming, but it will be good when he gets into a groove with Hodgson and Hansen. The fourth line was good last night, they had some scoring chances and didn't look like a liability out there. These 3 really seem to have gelled, and while I think Volpatti is the weak link there, he wasn't awful last night and it's so nice to have a 4th line that doesn't make my stomach churn every time they're on the ice. I am sure Tanner Glass is a hell of a guy, but he fights pucks more than bears.
Tonight, it's our first look at the St. Louis Blues. Not sure what it is about the Blues, but these games are always feisty, high-scoring affairs. Let's hope for whichever goalie the Canucks put in, it's lopsided in our favour. And just when you think things couldn't get more dramatic, we have word that Stephane Auger will be officiating the game tonight. Is this something to fear, or the perfect distraction to get people to talk about something besides Roberto Luongo. Probably both.
The Blues come into this game winners of 2 straight with a 4-4-0 record. This is a much different looking Blues team, as they went out and made some significant free agent signings over the summer to bring a veteran presence to go along with a core of good young players. Guys like Jason Arnott, Kent Huskins, Jamie Langenbrunner and Scott Nichol will certainly help, and they have a goalie controversy of their own, as Brian Elliot has gotten off to a 3-0-0 start as the backup, leading some to question if he will steal the starter's job from Jaroslav Halak. The question that remains is have they done enough to get this team back into the top 8 come April after missing the dance the last 2 seasons? The Blues are missing two key components right now on the injured list, with Andy MacDonald and David Perron both out with concussion issues. Getting them back should help them compete in a tough Central division, Perron especially.
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wow does evile ever sound like early godsmack…ie ‘master’ era metallica…without cliff’s awesomeness of course.
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i think its fair
to dump on lui for Goals 2 and 3. But that’s about it. You can’t blame him for not scoring goals or the fact the team chased the puck all night and he’s still one of the best. October just isn’t his month.
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notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
I don't see, myself
how “blaming” the goaltender does any good any more. In this atmosphere that is self created by the fans and media, its almost a game show at this point.
Goal two, for instance. Lui, certainly, on the set up of the dump in, but that shit happens in hockey all the time. But OK, for that. Hammer was first to that puck though. If his first thought is to poke it up the boards, its a no big deal thing. Smyth made a good play and gets position on him AND the puck, and Hammer can’t stop the puck coming up front.
So, Lui is just getting back like any other goalie in the NHL, or anywhere. The pass was right to the guy in front. I forget, but I think it was a Sedin that was totally close enough to the guy if he is thinking defensively. But he was not. Empty net and in. So, 50% each maybe?
That 3rd one, thats just a straight 18.5% for every damn guy on the ice. From Hodgson on the boards down low, and Hansen up high, to both defensemen ( I want to say Bieksa and Ballard?), and the Sedin in front. 3 guys to prevent a pass like that. Lui misplayed it too by going down to early and having to stretch when the damn puck got through 3 guys. Hell, it was not that hard of a play to defend, they had the numbers.
They will all get better, and the goalie will benefit
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How does any discussion by fans "do good"
we’re talking about it here. I don’t see why Luongo can’t be responsible for something going wrong? I’m as big a supporter as any, but he had a bad game. That doesn’t detract from his value, nor does it mean we don’t like him. I could agree with you if it was only one game, but when the team is playing poorly in front of schenider as well, I wonder why the numbers are so much different.
BOTH “sides” of the coin over-extrapolate way too much and miss each other’s fair points. Each game should be evaluated independantly. Luongo has some bad games and sucks in October. But he generally plays lights out the rest of the year and more than compensates.
Is the team playing well in front of him? No, but that doesn’t mean Lui let in some shit-awful goals. It happens.
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notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
*didn't let in
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notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
I meant the "fans" that eviscerate the man
fault or not. I was not saying sage and intelligent folks like us should not discuss these things.
Sorry for the confusion
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fans that eviscerate
based on a bad game here and there have their heads completely up their collective asses and I prefer not to talk too much to them or about them tbh.
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notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
lol
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wow. I only laughed that once
glad we are on the same page mon frere
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Vancitydan
You’ve stated many times it’s team game and Lou isn’t the problem so I’m hoping you can give me some insight. Why do you think the team plays better with the Ginger in net?
Yes it’s early but we have one goalie that has played 5 1/3 games with a 3.45 GAA and .886 save % and one that’s played 3 2/3s games with a 1.67 GGA and .935 save % behind the exact same players. Why is that if it’s not the goal tenders per say?
Why are the players “hanging their keeper out to dry” when it’s Lou and not Schneider?
Maybe they feel that
Lou can be left out to dry with 3 on 2’s and 2 on 1’s and make the big save, while they play safe with Ginger Jesus in net? Who knows?
There is one thing I realize now, I know Bieksa will jump up on the PK and his goalies better recognize this as well.
Now that Sammy is gone, who will tell Sweden to fuck off?
I don't really think
the team plays better for Schneider
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notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
I don't know
I don’t know if that is true, as they played just fine in front of him plenty of times last season. I don’t know why his internal "awesome goalie " clock does not work until November.
The players have hung Schneids out to dry on his goals too. But it was funny, the game against Columbus for instance. Not a one of the goals was groused about that much by well, I mentioned it in the recap, and a few others made a mild comment on it in the media…but he sucked on both of them. The difference was the team came back for him.
Last game, I think that is more the jolt that goes through a team after a goalie change. Thats why coaches do it. It wakes up their team that you had to pull the other guy.
But I just do not know …maybe the feeling that we “think” they are playing better in front of Cory cuz we want him in? I don’t know.
I do know I still believe in Luongo as a strong #1 goalie in the NHL. But thats about it. If he is still struggling badly in December, I might change that!
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it could also be an unconscious reaction where they unconsciously feel that they have to be more responsible in front of Schneider because he doesn’t get a lot of starts or is unproven etc when they may unconsciously expect Lu to save a 3 on 1 shot etc making them jump up into the play more
who knows?
Go Canucks Go!
I thought Daniel
didn’t have a strong game at all. Turnovers, missed passes etc. He’s still our leading scorer, but he hasn’t played at an optimal level yet.
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Pet peeve
I have a pet peeve…people who call for teams to ‘score first’. It’s like that can happen at will. It doesn’t even matter as much as people make it out to be. Sure the Canucks won lots of games last year when they scored first. That’s because they were awesome at scoring goals. And they won because they scored lots of goals.
I prefer:
Score goals. Lots of them. Don’t let in goals. As few as possible.
That’s what wins games.
The reason people call for teams to score first is because teams have to play differently when they’re behind than when they have the lead. A team trying to catch up is forced to take more chances and leaves themselves vulnerable to odd man rushes from the team playing with the lead who can pick and choose their opportunities.
The Canucks play a very different game when they have the lead compared to when they are behind.
it's funny
all those people who think they are calm and rational defend luongo to such an extent it’s almost laughble by now.
right now the best defense is simply october isn’t his best month. for our sake i sure hope that’s the case. unfortunately, playing well during the regular season still says nothing about post-season performance. and no matter what, unless he reverts back to his old form ala the anaheim series, he’s not earning his 5.3 mln cap hit.
Also not earning their cap hits:
Bieksa
Edler
Ballard
And they are not making his job any easier.
And PLEASE can we stop this “turf war” between the two camps? Stop calling the other side names, or stupid, or their position laughable. It doesn’t help anything
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yep
I am trying to wean myself off the Luongo Conundrum. Its almost November anyhow.
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Yeah cause once the calender
changes he will start playing well again. Right?
Quick question though….what if he doesn’t?
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by Section 312 on Oct 26, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
lets just see
just reading below here. Love the fairness of it! ;-)
now, if he doesn’t, well then, as a smart organization they start the other guy and work with him. But I don’t really see that much too wrong with his game last night. The one goal on his cock up with Hammer, but there was plenty of mistakes leading up to the other two…
The thing is, if you say that, you are an apologist or something, and the Anti – Luongo guys get on you for that. But really, I see the same game they do. I see the mistakes he has made this year, and there is no denying he is off to a slow start ( again )
Experience tells me this too shall pass. It does not mean I have to like experiencing it. Its just the level of discourse and disdain THIS time is different than in the past. I guess the way the playoffs went, if you are hanging it on Lui for that, then you are ready to hang him now.
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Or maybe some fans
aren’t able to stomach making the “October” excuse for a guy paid a shit load of money to perform and to show up ready to play at the start of seasons/games?
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by Section 312 on Oct 26, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll put you down for the "other side" then? ;-)
Its a statistical fact. Some folks are just slow starters I guess. I have never went back into the records for the Fla/NYI starts, but I would bet they have some similarity.
Not excusing a thing. Just saying…
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The only camp I am in
is the “do what’s best for the franchise” camp and by that I don’t mean CoHo I mean the Canucks.
And I am sorry I hate to do this but if you are saying “he always gets off to slow starts it’s okay he will be fine” you are in fact making an excuse for his current slow start. It’s fine to say he will get better based on statistical evidence of previous seasons. But that does NOT make it okay for him to start slow every year. And saying it is okay cause he will get better is very much excusing him for his slow start.
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by Section 312 on Oct 26, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Jesus
I am not making excuses. I simply pointed out a fact that it is nothing new. Whether or not it is a good thing is entirely another thing. I agree with you there. I would rather they did not do that.
I just refuse to say that it is Luongo only. Sorry. It is not. You see a ton of hockey. Its the guys on the ice, all of them including the goaltender. His slow starts and mistakes are greater amplified when they amount to goals, but his mistakes are hardly the only ones that result in goals.
Now, not making an excuse, mind you. Just saying that we tend to judge this particular goaltender a little different than any other player, let alone goalie.
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Well I basically responed to this in another thread
But you know as well as anyone that a goalie can have more of an impact on a game than any other player. They are on the ice for the full 60 minutes. And if they are off their game it has a much great impact on the course of a game than any other player. So they deserve all the extra scrutiny that they get. That’s why goalies are weird. You have to be wired differently to want ot play that position. And you know what? They all know it and they accept it. They get it. So I am not sure why so many fans don’t seem to get that. Why does Luongo get more criticism than any other player? Cause he deserves it. That’s what being a goalie is all about. Why does he get more criticism in this market than any other goalie in almost any other hockey market? Because this is one of the largest, most passionate, and most vocal fanbases in the sport. Deal with it. It isn’t going to change and it isn’t unjustifiable the way some of you seem to think.
If your only argument here is “he isn’t the only one” then you don’t have an argument. Cause I have never said it is solely his fault and I never will. And those that do are entitled to that opinion but they probably aren’t die hard every day hockey fans like most of us that come on this site. But that doesn’t mean it isn’t at times largely his fault.
And to me, “It’s nothing new” isn’t a point. It’s nothing. Who cares if it is new or old? What difference does the fact it has happened before make to the effect it is having at this very moment on our season? All that matters is it is happening and there are measures that can and need to be taken to stop it having a long term impact on our season.
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by Section 312 on Oct 26, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Semi
you are gonna have to be careful here. The other side, the pro-Luongo side, have done nothing but deride the so-called Anti-Luongo side of the arguemnt with name calling and worse. In fact on this very thread something was said along the lines of “anyone who eviscerates Luongo has their head up their ass” so if you are going to post that comment under a so-called ‘anti-Luongo’ comment you should make sure to post it under a ‘pro-Luongo’ comment as well. Just my opinion though.
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by Section 312 on Oct 26, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I know
And I’m going to watch them all more carefully now. That was a general comment directed at everyone, and not just the “anti-Luongo” side. I know I posted it under there, but it applies to everyone.
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great insight
From Kerry Fraser from TSN.ca. Note commenter “SylverFoxx” has a +6 already for her point about Canuck fans
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Worry! Worry! Worry!
I have to agree with you that the disorganized defense and the spotty scoring is far more worrisome than Roberto Luongo at the moment. Defensive solidity was the cornerstone of the team’s success last year and it is worrying to see them struggle so much in the early going. I think that many of us had written Bieksa and Hamhuis in as our number one things not to worry about this year yet here we are, one day removed from another sub-par effort. Alex Edler too seems to be a little short on consistency so far this season and Kieth Ballard is either very good or terrible again depending on whom you listen to. The whole group is not in sync yet and this only exacerbates a lack of offensive penetration, doleful discipline and spotty goal tending. The early season malaise is a collective problem, not one attributable to one individual. Let’s hope that the leadership group in the dressing room gets a grip on things before the situation gets chronic..
Is SCF
preseason and first ten games not long enough to be very worried?
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"Are you out of your fucking mind? You think I'm just going to rape you on the off chance that hopefully you're into that shit?" - Louis CK
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by Section 312 on Oct 26, 2011 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
About the team collectively?
Yes. About Roberto Luongo individually? No.
by John Andress on Oct 26, 2011 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Well that doesn't make any sense then
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by Section 312 on Oct 26, 2011 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions
It doesn't?
I imagine that you missed last night’s game then. To put it simply for you, I am suggesting that Roberto Luongo is not the problem. He is only part of a greater overall team problem. What is not to understand about that?
by John Andress on Oct 27, 2011 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions
No no no
the part that doesn’t make sense is well….Luongo is part of the team. A bigger part in fact than any skater. So if it’s okay to be worried about the team then it’s okay to be worried about Luongo. Logical, no?
Perhaps what you are really suggesting is that it isn’t okay to talk about being worried about Luongo without simultaneously talking about all the other aspects of the team that are worrisome right now?
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by Section 312 on Oct 27, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I think what he's saying
is that Luongo isn’t the ONLY problem with the team?
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notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
Thank you.
That is exactly what I am saying.
by John Andress on Oct 27, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Well of course he isn't
no one is saying he is. No one. Just because people are saying they have a problem with how Luongo is playing doesn’t mean they think he is the ONLY problem. That’s something the pro-Luongo crowd made up. Luongo isn’t playing well DOES NOT EQUAL Luongo is the only problem. And I am not sure why the pro-Luongo crowd wants people to qualify every single comment about Luongo with the fact that he isn’t the only problem. I mean I think the D hasn’t been very good and that Tanev should be playing regularly and Alberts and Rome should fuck right off. Does that mean I think they are the ONLY problem? Of course not. It’s obvious that isn’t what I meant. DO you see what I am saying?
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Are you out of your fucking mind? You think I'm just going to rape you on the off chance that hopefully you're into that shit?" - Louis CK
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by Section 312 on Oct 27, 2011 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions
There is no Pro and Anti Luongo crowd here Section. Well, there are folks that dislike him, sure, he is a polarizing figure for some reason.
Out there, there are a bunch, In here, not so much. When we couch it in those terms, it turns into a “No, YOU SUCK” kind of conversation.
For the record, noting I have said above nothing more shocking in that he does get the disproportionate amount of stress thrown his way everywhere.
Or maybe some fans
aren’t able to stomach making the "October" excuse for a guy paid a shit load of money to perform and to show up ready to play at the start of seasons/games?
See, I get the above as a thing that a fan can and will say. Its patently unfair, is all. Like I said, you watch a lot of hockey, I am sure, you have seen the game enough to know how the other guys can make the goalie look horrible, and the opposite.
Its not to rehash, and I am making this my last post on this thread, because it is just a back and forth anyhow, but this is your response to a smily face joke and a mention of the “slow starts”. Something hardly startling.
The only camp I am in
is the "do what’s best for the franchise" camp and by that I don’t mean CoHo I mean the Canucks.
And I am sorry I hate to do this but if you are saying "he always gets off to slow starts it’s okay he will be fine" you are in fact making an excuse for his current slow start. It’s fine to say he will get better based on statistical evidence of previous seasons. But that does NOT make it okay for him to start slow every year. And saying it is okay cause he will get better is very much excusing him for his slow start.
And that is where you got me going down the back and forth path. I was making a lighthearted attempt at a smile, and I am told I am “making an excuse”. You did say you were sorry about it first!
Its all good Section. Carry on my friend. Or, "Carry On… " Did you like those olde British Movies?
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Passes to Booth...
…seemed to be behind him or in his feet pretty much every time. Once they adjust to his speed we’re going to see more than a few more odd man rushes.
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