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Before we get into the impending doom and feelings of personal angst over this one, I have to say. Another perfectly done tribute by the Canucks organization. I hope they never, ever have to have another. RIP Ryp'.
Now. How are we going to couch THIS one, huh? I am making a prediction right now that Luongo stays trending in Vancouver, for a few days. That the TEAM 1040 executives started dancing in the private suite when the fans gave Roberto a bit of the business. Even though you cannot blame him for this loss. The talk shows, and comment boards will take a contrary point of view to me on that one, I bet.
The Rangers, and especially Ryan McDonagh, had themselves a helluva game. They are a hard working team, and paid the price again. Blocks? No problem. Hit them Torts? You got it. They came out and had a solid third period, after their goalie stole the first two periods. It happens.
Its a shame that Luongo had to get some grief from the home fans tonight. But, its part and parcel of being in a major hockey market, and playing the position. Henrik Lundqvist will enjoy basking in that media induced glory tomorrow in New York, the media capitol. Unfortunately for our star goaltender, it will be the ugly flip side of that glory in the "village of Vancouver". ( where, no doubt the media intensity will be, sadly, more intense!) At least until the next game. And probably beyond it.
Can you imagine if Cory Schneider starts at home versus the Preds and wins!?
In honor of the opponents tonight, we will have a Top 10 things I noticed tonight. They are in no particular order, and I won't even use numbers. If you want those, here's the ESPN stats from the game. Some highlights here, and I am sure you can find some mention of Luongo, and the loss here and on Twitter. If you follow folks that I do, you know that a lot is already being said.
- They would not have had a chance to have that game if Henrik Lundqvist was not King Henrik tonight. But his 40 save masterpiece does not mean that the goaltender at the other end is any less of a player. Its a team game. Just as Lundqvist had lots and lots of help tonight in front ( 23 shots blocked, at least a few of those SaloBombs ). Luongo had a little less of that help in his own end. Not to blame just the defenders. You want your #1 to rob someone when the other guy is doing it to you. The chances that were given up by the home team tonight were mainly against the run of play. But the skill shown was no less apparent for that. Give them some credit too, while sharpening the knives for poor Roberto "Yorick" Luongo.
- Ryan freaking Kesler. The Keslord. How'd he do? Well, he had 3 shots, missed another two, and was a solid screen on the PP, and also made it more dangerous. Not enough to get one in, but it will get there. 3 hits, and a penalty while on the power play that was a "new NHL" call, but did take them off. He won 10 of 17 draws. The penalty kill looked better too. 19:07 TOI, only the Sedins had more. Tonight he did not get the win that you know the entire team wanted for Rypper. But I know I am not the only one that was smiling, seeing him back.
- A dangerous second line. Look, we know that if this team plays that way against anyone not named Lundqvist and maybe Thomas ( and, there were several tonight that hit Henrik before he even knew they were coming. ) and we are home and clear. The Canucks had 28 shots to 9 by the end of the second. The second line finished up with 7 shots on net and 6 more missed. They were buzzing. Cody Hodgson looks just fine on that line, and won 5 of 8 draws that Kesler did not take. Add that to what Kes' did above and tell me AV did not know what he was doing. Initial test passed.
- Too bad Kevin Bieksa had to lose it a bit there at the end, but that was a glorious distraction, was it not? He got the 17 minutes, and the hit was of course going to be called even if he did not scrap, but the "Huggy Bear" motion and the Torts smirk were fun. Dubinsky did not earn his 15 minutes, but damn, Juice got his money's worth!
- The rush by Edler where he almost ( who am I kidding right?) scored after the first goal was great. He and Hamhuis had some moments. But both were a -3 each. Only 2 combined shots. Juice and Kevin Ballard were both a -1 ( as was Sami Salo ), but Bieksa had 5 shots, Ballard 2, and they looked more dangerous five on five tonight. The only guy that finished even was Andrew Alberts, and he had a team high 6 hits! It seems that there is something there with the new pairings. More data maybe needed, but I did like the Hippy Juice combo.
- Second unit power play. OK, no one was getting one by the Are, Sweden native, but the second unit, with Cody Hodgson, Alexandre Burrows and Chris Higgins was awesome. You could see AV had no qualms about evening out the time they got compared to the Twins as the game went on. It led to Sami Salo and Burrows leading the defense and forwards with 5 and 6 shots respectively. To many chances. It also looked better at dealing with pressure on the points than Mikael Samuelsson, at least on the first period chances.
- That leads me right to FU Sweden. He had 3 shots, though that was mostly power play. one hit and 1 giveaway in his almost 15 minutes ( 6:31 on the PP!) TOI. Put Ballard in that spot. Please. He can pass too, and his shot is pretty hard as well. Because FU Sweden is going to give me a heart attack every time someone pressures the point on the penalty kill.
- One place the defensemen have to tighten up is after they lose a draw, or a puck battle along the boards. Some of that can be the new pairings and reading off each other. But not much. Apart from Andrew Alberts. I love him. He is the new Aaron Rome Mr Stanchion. Except this one is awesomely bigger and looks much more dramatic when he gets hit in the numbers. Which has now happened in every game he has played. Opponents see the "41", get dyslexic, and try to take a run at Burrows. Poor Andrew Alberts pays the price again.
- Jannik Hansen is still struggling. He was fine on the penalty kill again. He just seems to be a step behind on the cycle. Can we blame that on Samuelsson too? Lets blame him for everything, it seems to make him play better. I thought Manny Malhotra was pretty good tonight, but his line did get caught on one goal. He had 3 shots though. And after going 1 for 4 in the first on draws, he finished at 10 for 16. Yeah, lets blame them.
- The fourth line was pretty good at times too. Like every other line, they had a minus on a goal ( the Canucks had the two above mentioned defenders with -3, but apart from Kesler, Alberts, and Salo, everyone else ended up a -1. ), but were pretty solid for a 4th line. In their 9 minutes, each had a shot , all but Weise was credited a hit. The fourth line is getting better aren't they?
A Top 10, and no real mention of the Sedins? They were pretty slick on the man advantage, but a few times Henrik was read like a book on the power play. Kudos to the Rangers for their penalty killing tonight as well ( who am I kidding , Lundqvist WAS the penalty kill ), but each Sedin only had a shot credited. Thats it. Well, Hank got a penalty for trying to shoot Hamhuis his stick in the first, and was credited with a team high 3 giveaways...
But what the hell. We are going to be all over Roberto Luongo until Thursday anyhow right?
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Disappointing result, but
you’ll hear no jeers from me about Luongo’s play. Communication between the defense seems to be an issue. That third goal was just brutal – especially considering we won that draw.
Despite the loss, though, that 2nd line and the 2nd unit powerplay has me smiling. I look forward to seeing how things progress as they gel and as adjustments are made.
Thanks for the recap, Dan – always love these kind of recaps as the game goes by so fast that I tend to miss a lot of the little things.
keep Luongo in
The Canucks need to learn to play as a team. Luongo couldn’t be faulted for any goals tonight. It’s not his fault the defense acted like human pylons on the final goal or that they gave up four grade A chances. Also Luongo doesn’t score thus we don’t score any goals we won’t win no matter how good Luongo is. I’d be shocked if he doesn’t start VS Nashville Thursday
Well i'm all for keeping luongo in
heck, there’s maybe 3 goalies in the league as good as him. BUT…what bugged me tonite, and i’m sure the boobirds felt this frustration too, is that lundquist’s team sucked balls for 40 minutes, with defensive breakdowns and no offense, not to mention boneheaded penalty after boneheaded penalty… and we couldn’t put one past him…cuz he stood on his fucking head. I’m trying to remember the last time Vancouver was grossly outplayed by a team yet won with a shutout because our goalie stood on his head so much. I’m not talking about 1-0 against boston in the SCF, where both teams played very well, i’m talking about a stolen game. I miss stolen games…we used to see them alot. I’ll still never be one of those jackbags jeering and won’t be calling for a trade, but damn, i kinda see why people get frustrated. It’s not that he’s not good, it’s that we get halak’d a few times a season, yet never seem to do any halak’ing.
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Its true
I get what you are saying…100%.
But Henrik also had guys packing it in and defending him. Even when they sucked balls. They finished with 23 blocked shots!
I think we had less than 10.
He was awesome, and I do fully expect a game or two from Lui this season where he steals one.
But on this one, I just didn’t think he bore as much blame as the boobirds wanted to give him.
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It’s astonishing really how many “fans” at the arena really hate Luongo. It started with his delay of game penalty, the Schneider calls started coming. Even when he made a nice save I felt like I was the only person “Lou’ing”
I just wish I could go up to him and give him a big hug and tell him that there are still many out there who appreciate him
by Shand on Oct 19, 2011 12:01 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I just don’t understand what game the fans are seeing. Am I being a Luongo apologist if I think it’s not Luongo’s fault if he doesn’t stand on his head? I mean, I watched the first 3 goals, and I don’t think any of those goals are his fault.
Good call. I’m worried the superficial fans would run him out of town. He deserves to know there are people who still think highly of him, and support him 100%.
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by Vancouverguy on Oct 19, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
booooooooou-ongo
j/k.
fickle fans and media that lap it up.
sure, it would be nice if the Canucks came out guns blazing in October, but like the Sun rising in the East and setting in the West, this is a trend that has repeated itself for each of the last 5 seasons. wait until Nov-Dec, when Vancouver rips off a 10 game winning streak and the Province starts its annual “plan the parade route” front page special.
I'm ok with the loss, good goalies do that to you. Luongo was left high and dry on a few of those goals.
But it’s time to at least try another PP QB and get samuelsson off the point.
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yeah
he was a decent fill in for the Hoff last year, they need someone with a bigger shot at the point, or someone who is quick to sneak in and get the surprise shot off (Salo in the first case, Ballard in the second)
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notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
Good game
until the third. I believe most games run 60 minutes and something happened after 40 minutes. Lundy’s performance was good as Vancouver’s defense was bad in the third.
I know AV reads these comments so….
1) Did the PP look good last night? It looked pretty sometimes but the final tally of 0 for infinity was not good. Maybe try Hamhuis on the first unit instead of Sammy. I know you wanted Kes to get his feel back but Burrows was not that bad. So you could have switched them after the PP went 0-4. Try something new perhaps?
2) I don’t know if I like the fact that it seems ok for the Nucks to have a shitty October. “They always start slow.”
Kesler > Sturm
Regarding #2
I don’t like it either. But it seems par for the course.
I still just have an issue with how the Canucks deal with hot goaltenders and defensive teams. Especially the Sedins. They had 2 shots total last night!
I know Lundqvist was standing on his head, but Vancouver has a tendency to have guys “get hot” for some reason or another against them.
And the team just gave up after that first goal. Which is a recurring theme too
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
AV has never been one
for sending messages to other teams during games. And by that I mean, shoot the puck high at Lundy’s head. Push him around in the crease. Rattle his fucking cage a bit. Fancy passing is great, when it works. It wasn’t working last night. And you’re right, the fire in the Nucks died right after the first goal. I know that the Kesler and Burrows of old hurt the team with stupid penalties, but sometimes I miss the way they pissed other teams off with a bump here and a few words there and lit a fire under the rest of the Nucks.
There is also something with Van against Eastern teams in general. They play shit against them.
Kesler > Sturm
They play like shit against the defensive Eastern teams. Boston, Pittsburgh, NYR, etc.
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
The two wins
Were against pretty good teams though (Washington/Philly).
This year it’s not looking too good though
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
It’s almost like the Sedins see a goalie like that as a challenge, and they’ll work it, work it, work it, until they can get the perfect shot on him.
That type of play is not conducive against a defensive unit like the Rangers last night.
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by Vancouverguy on Oct 19, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly
Although neither is just wristing/slapping shots on net from every angle with no screen hoping something happens
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
One could argue
that this was the best Canuck performance so far, and that wouldn’t be too far off the mark. A 4:0 loss, the best game so far…..hmm.
The Luongo haters see a golden opportunity here, but the Luongo apologists are also having a field day. They will find every excuse to point out that all the goals were good goals, and it is OK for Lu to let them in.
I am somewhere in the middle, I don’t hate him and I am not terribly excited about his work either. But watching him yesterday, and seing that 25% of the shots go in the net is sure as hell frustrating. But it is also frustrating to see our defensive lapses.
Watching the game last night was a “deja vu” of the last few games of the Boston series: a good goaltender combined with a gritty, eastern-style defensive game, and the Canucks are blown away. It also didn’t help that every other shot from the Canucks was aimed at Lundquist’s chest. He gobbled them up like popcorn.
I wish the Canucks would learn something from Carolina. Those guys new how to get Boston lose their shit last night.
On a different note, the Panthers have the best power play in the league so far. Watching the Lightning-Panthers highlights for a day ago, I wish the Canucks power play could move the puck and shoot the puck as those guys do. Wow, did I just say that, envy the Panthers?
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one could also argue
Lou has a knack for letting in goals at the worst time. After 40mins of shelling Lundqvist and getting stoned, Lou kicks out a easy shot from distance right onto the stick of Rupp. You could see it take the steam right out of the Nucks.
Now, should they be able to bounce back, of course, but you can’t just dismiss what that does to the team. Especially after how dominant they were the first 2.5 periods.
Now, should they be able to bounce back, of course, but you can’t just dismiss what that does to the team. Especially after how dominant they were the first 2.5 periods.
Sure you can’t dismiss it. Just like you can’t dismiss the fact that each goal was the result awful defensive zone breakdowns and how many rebounds Lunquist handed out were not pounced on by Canucks and scored on. The fact the Canucks didn’t win was on Luongo as much as anyone else, so I don’t see why he gets an inordinate share of the blame.
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notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
Bieksa
is a joke. for a so called tough defenceman, when was the last time he actually went after someone who was tough. Stalberg, Marleau, Dubinsky…. that’s like me picking fights at the local high school so that I look tough
by master of my domain on Oct 19, 2011 10:28 AM PDT reply actions
Maybe you should some videos again
Because Both Marleau and Dubinsky went after him first.
But you probably don’t really watch the Canucks because that was your first post
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
You're an idiot.
Dubinsky went after Bieksa cause he can’t take a hit, then promptly hugged him/pushed him against the glass.
Marleau went after him to try and fire up the Sharks, and promptly got his ass kicked.
Stalberg had it coming.
Good to see you made the effort to sign up and post such a great response though!
by RogerFenway on Oct 19, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
looks like
somebody spelled canucks dot com incorrectly in their browser…
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by Twitchy2010 on Oct 19, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
As Semi said, Marleau and Dubs went at him first
Moreover you could go to hockeyfights.com and check his card over the years. Crombeen, Voros, Eager, Hinote, Tucker…or ignore those too.
I suspect you couldn’t handle most fights at a high school anyway.
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by Yankee Canuck on Oct 19, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
+1 for you too
Glad this putz singned up…eliciting some gold.
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RIP Ryp. Your Missed.
The goal tender controversy already alive in the media. I dont like the sounds of some of it too. Hearing things like “Real Problem on their hands” for the MSM has its effect. I just hope Lu can channel the energy positively myself.
Im going to the game tomorrow vs. NSH.
I hope Luie gets the start.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 19, 2011 11:26 AM PDT reply actions
I hope
he tears it up, then grabs his crotch and makes lewd gestures to the upper bowls.
If you get a chance to talk to him CC, tell him I suggested it.
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notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal
I’ll be there, too. I will be the one yelling “Luu” loud enough to make up for all the bastards who hate him.
by Shand on Oct 19, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
well done
you’re doing the lord’s work.
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