Random Canucks Rants After The 2-0 Loss To Detroit
If you find yourself sickened or even panicking at any level after last night's Canucks loss to the Red Wings: DON'T. It's much too early for that. I think there are more positives than negatives in the Canucks' 1-2-1 record to start the season. There are concerns, but nothing that cannot / will not be remedied. Like the fact that Cory Schneider, despite a goal he'd like to have back against Detroit, has no problem coming out of the regular season gate on a tour de force where Roberto Luongo does. I don't know if it's all the fettucini alfredo that Louie eats during the summer or what. He just doesn't do himself any favors playing this way with that kind of salary, in THIS hockey-mad part of the world while his backup looks solid and mostly consistent. But...Lou will find his form and Schneider will most likely have his fair share of bad games as well. Right? Right.
The Canucks have scored 10 goals in their first 4 games. But then, prior to the Wings game they scored 10 in 3. See? Positivity. The Sedins have been in on 6 of them if my Grade 2 math is correct. I was
thinking that percentage was higher after the loss to the Wings. The Twins were completely shut down and nobody else responded. That's not to say they didn't come close. Look at Alexandre Burrows putting that one off the crossbar and Cody Hodgson's shot that did not beat the buzzer at the end of the 2nd period. Those plays could have turned the tide, or zapped some energy into a Canucks team that looked tired and slow as the game went on. Huge kudos to Jimmy Howard for his play early on, by the way.
In that regard, I keep hearing / reading people talking about how they cannot wait for Ryan Kesler to return to right the ship. Just think about what that sounds like: BULLSH*T! If you need to rely on one guy to right a ship you are in trouble. I get bad flashbacks of the Stanley Cup Finals when I hear that. Kesler was playing with a damaged hip against the Bruins, the Sedins were held in check and the scoring dried up like a popcorn fart. UNACCEPTABLE! This team needs scoring depth. It has all the pieces to do so but is not getting it done, yet. But they will. Once they throw Marco Sturm to the wolves. Oops did I say that out loud? Well, 1 shot, ZERO points and continual demotion over 4 games aids my thinking. Oh, and he's making $2.25 million this season. A contract year. Yet..it's still EARLY. Anything can happen. The Sturmtrooper could catch fire at any time. Out of the blue. If he isn't waived.
Back to Kesler: Wait Kes! Don't come back quite yet! I really liked the HHH (Hodgson-Higgins-Hansen) line last night as the 2nd line. I saw some promise there, even though they combined for no points, 6 shots and a collective -1 (Hodgson). Speed kills. Hodgson skated much faster with those 2 and I want at least one more look at that unit together. It's just more gel time for these guys while Kesler is gone and more time for Hodgson especially to continue his rapid improvement at center in a top 6 role. The kid is finally getting his fair shake. (And yes I get it that when Kesler returns it is very unlikely that those 3 play together.)
Speaking of gelling: the team doesn't have it. Not yet. But it will come. Captain Hank can talk about need for focus and winning all he wants in post game interviews but sometimes chemistry takes time. With the Canucks it's getting close. The top line is fine. But the other 9? Huh. Close in some areas. The team needs to get back to basics. If they are modeling themselves after Detroit they sure aren't showing it. Not yet. Detroit gets solid goaltending. Detroit players play a system and trust in it. Detroit players trust in each other. Detroit players play superb at both ends of the ice. They get the fundamentals right now. Soon, the Canucks will too.
But Detroit players didn't play in the Finals last season. I have a random question to throw out there: How hard do you think it would be to play in the Stanley Cup Finals in June and then have a short summer and stare at an 82-game schedule before you get a chance to redeem yourself? Sure, these guys are pro athletes, but they are human also. For me? It wouldn't be easy. Where does the motivation come from in October besides possible professionalism and the coach's foot in your ass?
Random rants. I try to keep it in an orderly fashion but my mind doesn't work that way. You get my drift though: don't shit yourselves! We're only 4 games in!
LATE TWEETS OF THE NIGHT:
NHL (09:37) - Red Wings schlagen die Canucks: Die Detroit Red Wings haben mit einem 2:0-Heimsieg über die ...
-I love German. DIE!!!
Canucks dumped 2-0 in Detroit. Rocky start to the year,... but we all know how Rocky stories end up. #faith
-Brent Butt gets it.
I miss 17. Not being 17. Ryan Kesler, go pose on ESPN/ go play for America, but get back on the ice for the Canucks!
-username: viagara_overdose. enough said.
@DevinC89 "@schaaptop: How do you spot a fake Canucks fan? They're wearing a Luongo jersey."
-huh. Guess I'm a fake. And that wasn't funny.
@LaineyGossip They serve proper booze at the Saddledome too...come see the Canucks lose to Calgary sometime and I'll buy you a drink!
-Now if she was smart she would have said: "IF the Canucks lose to Calgary I'll buy you a drink." Imagine the savings!
(OT: Wait a minute, what the f*ck is this??? Asshat idea!)
Well at least Schnieder was better than #Luongo. #Canucks need Kesler, the straw that stirs the drink, and livens up the rink. What I think
-Ladies and gentlemen, the next Eminem!
And 1 from TSN:
Out shot 25-37? Wow, Canuck fans are lucky Leaky luo was not in net or it would have been 6-7. I cant imagine how frustrating it must be to be a Canucks fan. The media keeps telling you that your team can win the cup, while you have a goalie that will make it next to impossible. Meanwhile, you have a goalie that could make it happen, but he will be gone by next season. It will be hard to imagine a better season than Vancouver had last year, and a better team in front of Luo, and he still couldnt get it done. Put your faith in Cory, and send Luongo to the minors for a month to humble him a bit, it may help Mr. Ego realise that he is not the greatest hockey player in history, as he believes.
-What? I don't even...
Adiose for now! See ya Saturday!
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Ha!
I beat ya! And I worked until 11pm. LOL
I see we were thinking about the same in spots.
The Lui stuff from others makes me change my mind. I thought that Canuck fans were worse on him than the others, but I forgot the TSN folks. damn…Thats some shit. Mr Ego! “What a…ohhh, I can’t be bothered…lets just mock them some more!”
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I thought you were out of commission :) Until I published.
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by Sean Zandberg on Oct 14, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
I was
But I got home, ran through the PVR, and saw nothing there…so I tried to be a superstar!
I’ll trust the status quo and keep my nose to the ground from now on.
I should have known…you. With your young kid and job and life and such!
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It’s all good, dude. I didn’t mind ranting a bit:)
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by Sean Zandberg on Oct 14, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
My motto in this
is ‘slow and steady wins the race’ I would hate it if the Canucks came roaring out of the gate early (a la Toronto), then ran out of gas mid season. This team know what it takes to get to the big stage, and all the morons in the world need to realize that.
Big Bad Cup winning Bruins are 1-2-0. Should they shove Timmy out the door?
Sean, I’m a Faker with you as well. I wear my Luongo jersey with PRIDE!
"Let's be honest - I watched you walk away
You went off to find - anything else - anything less
On your own..."
As do I. How can you call yourself a Canucks fan and hate the goalie? Well I mean other than Dan Cloutier. He’s the exception.
Alex Auld
Maxime Oullet, A Brief History Of Sean Burke. Glen Hanlon. Danny Sabourin, Bob Essensa, Kevin Weekes, Troy Gamble and CBC Guy Kevin Weekes. All of them “hated” at one time or another. Most without the talent management touted them to have. Now we have one with that talent, and instead of fans understanding that and giving him even a smidge of trust in that talent, we have every damn goal being a Twitter trend.
For older folks, we remember the last superstar goalie we had here. Gary Smith, who had a season in the 70s that heralded MVP consideration. He got drunk at a party at the owner’s house and called the owner’s wife ( I think, or daughter I guess…) ugly, and was on his way out of town as soon as summer rolled around.
But he was loved, not like Luongo. Well, thats not true. Some of us love him. More than you would think I bet. Its kind of like the Tea Party down south, a loud vocal minority dominate the conversation
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Suitcase Smith, haha. What a guy
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by Sean Zandberg on Oct 14, 2011 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I love when
the old Canuck stories show the guy. Long leather coat, huge curly white guy afro. Owned racehorses, bet the football games too.
Larchied I think it was told the story on one of those old videos of him getting beat on a long floater on the road because the scores were up around the arena and he got distracted seeing how he was doing.
Have to agree with the CDC voters here, he had 5 S/Os in 28 games in 71/72.
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so let me get this straight...
someone gives a shit what a CTV entertainment gossip ‘journalist’ has to say about hockey? bloody hell. between these and the Stanchion’s TSN comments, I am thoroughly depressed for the future of mankind.
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The future is fukt
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by Sean Zandberg on Oct 14, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
You know
who @LaineyGossip is? Say goodbye to your street cred. ;)
I'll do it tomorrow, that seems like a pretty good idea to me
What's wrong with tomorrow, I'm watching him but who's watching me?
by Smoboy41 on Oct 14, 2011 11:59 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
haha! Fukkit! I have no creds to begin with. Want some meth?
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by Sean Zandberg on Oct 14, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I want Keslord back...now.
The ship does need to be righted…it needs to have it’s correct crew though. Kesler on the second line, PP and PK brings stability and more choices for AV when it comes to line juggling. Sturm is the reason lines needs to be juggled…..see the difference. I don’t see 40 goals for Kes, maybe 25 if he stays healthy, but how many will be scored on other lines because teams need to cover him. How many will he help prevent on the PK? Of course I want a healthy Kes so if it takes another month I hope the team can find ways to win.
Let it begin
like sean
i’m sick of people thinking kesler’s gonna be some kind of panacea for the team…he won’t. The team will get their shit together, or they won’t. Kesler may be part of that, but he won’t BE that. You’re grasping at CDC style straws if you think he’s some kind of magic pill.
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Point out magic pill in my statement above.
I pointed out Kesler role and what it does for the rest of the team. Kesler > Sturm. That fucking simple. Whatever else you read somewhere else, do not add lump me in with them.
Let it begin
It's not CDC style to think being without Kesler is having a huge impact on this team
Vancouver is a one line team right now. 60% of the goals the Sedins have been in on. Once Kesler comes back, the second line will be a much more dangerous scoring threat, and you get a guy who is one of the best players on this team in his own end and on the PK.
Sure, everyone needs to get their heads out of their asses as well – but I’m pretty sure Kesler is the kind of guy who will let them know in the locker room
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Aren't we also
missing MayRay, if anybody even cares about him? His speed, zig-zagging in enemy territory? I mean, he is a veteran after all, and a fast one.
Funny that nobody mentions him as if he is already gone.
Los Angeles, CA
Bah, MayRay wasn’t so stellar last season
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by Sean Zandberg on Oct 14, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
I’d much rather have a speedy Raymond pulling the defense out of position than a slow and basically useless Sturm.
Me too
Though I am sure he will go to the net just as hard as before when he gets back…right?
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Well said Sean
For some reason, I am still in pre-season mode with this team. Since they didn’t play in the actual pre-season, this is it for them. And the last game of their pre-season will be on this coming Saturday in Edmonton.
It looks like there IS such a thing as the SC hangover after all, even for the finalist who lost. Bylsma was wrong, when he disagreed. When you are one win away from it (after being up 2:0 in the series), there is no way that you can start with the same intensity a couple of months later. After what the guys went through last June, October means NOTHING for them. And for good reason: they are humans, not robots that can be switched on.
The chemistry and the desire to start over again will take some time, and will happen slowly but surely.
I like your point about not relying too much on Kesler. As tempting as it is, to want him back right away, I would like to see this team start clicking and winning before Ryan comes back. Just lke Pittsburg can do it without Sid. If they can do it, that’s a sign of a very good team. And I want to see Hodgson (the announcer on NHL.com called him Hodgkins all night) get a ton if ice-time, the kid looks better by the day.
We’ve witnessed some hot October and November starters in the last few years (I remember Colorado and Minnessota did it not so long ago), and saw how they faded away as time went by. These guys know better.
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Just like Pittsburg can do it without Sid.
Exactly. And our team will suffer injuries down the road again, most likely.
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by Sean Zandberg on Oct 14, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I have been enlightened
I had no idea Lou believed he was the greatest player in history – thanks TSN!
As far as Kes, I do agree that if you need to rely on one guy to right the ship then you’re in trouble. We’ve more than enough secondary talent to help carry the team right now. That being said, if it takes them more time to get rolling and Kes picks up the slack in the meantime, then I’m all for it. Of course that’s assuming the other guys are in fact going to get it going at some point. The only other option is to send Lou to the minors and humble him… wait, that’s not right… DAMN YOU TSN!
by Babych_for_HOF on Oct 14, 2011 11:35 AM PDT reply actions
KESLER
WILL MAKE EVERYTHING BETTER
THERE IS ALWAYS MONEY IN THE BANANA STAND!
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Oct 14, 2011 1:31 PM PDT reply actions
I don't see why the Triple H line can't be kept together even when Kesler returns.
Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Sturm-Kesler-Samuelsson (I do believe that Sturmtrooper will get in the swing of things…his lack of speed is troubling, as that was once his calling card. But on paper he seems to fit inb perfectly with the Canucks; hopefully he just needs an adjustment)
Higgins-Hodgeson-Hansen
Lapierre-Malhotra-??? (Anyone but Volpatti and Weise. I’m not blaming them for the slow start…but everytime I’ve noticed them on the ice, they’ve been pinned in their own zone. They look even worse than the Glass-Johnson-Rypien line!
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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Oct 14, 2011 3:52 PM PDT reply actions
The Canucks have scored 10 goals in their first 4 games. But then, prior to the Wings game they scored 10 in 3. See? Positivity.
Wait, what?
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perspective
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by Sean Zandberg on Oct 14, 2011 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah but that just means we’ve gotten worse. I don’t get it!
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Well, over ONE GAME
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by Sean Zandberg on Oct 15, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
and I’m pointing out how quickly the stats change with such a small sample size
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by Sean Zandberg on Oct 15, 2011 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions

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