"Vancouver was not a destination point for really high-level free agents for a variety of reasons. Anywhere from taxes to rain to travel, you name it," he said.
"I felt if we were going to be a competitive team and organization, we had to change that mindset. We did it by approving a plan that was in place to redo the dressing room facility.
"We did it by initially offering more money to certain players we felt would legitimize our team in the short-term for others, one of them being Mats Sundin -- he made a significant difference in our organization -- and we tried to provide a guarantee we were going to make players better by every means possible."
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good read.
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Sean just wants us to read about how Sundin's stay was a positive one.
Although, I don’t think Gillis gets enough credit for some of the off-ice things he’s committed to.
European scouting, AHL depth, physios/sleep doctors/psychlogists and other professionals are stories we don’t hear about that often, but it might mean the difference of 3 or 4 points by the end of the season, and given how close the teams in the Western conference are, that might be the difference of the 3rd seed and the 5th seed.
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Better than Simmons. In the same paper, basically saying Gillis is much like Bowman Jr, coming in at the last minute to get the glory.
This article acknowledges that, but also acknowledges the thing Gillis has done.
Good read
CC…I thought of him first too!
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Agreed
Gillis has really caught on to the off-ice moves that can contribute to a team’s success.
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by nucksandpucks on Jan 18, 2011 8:16 AM PST up reply actions
“people who didn’t fit into the plan were let go”
coughSOBcough
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jan 18, 2011 1:27 AM PST reply actions
Yeah his sleep bracelet must have been going haywire when SOB was out at the Roxy!
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by nucksandpucks on Jan 18, 2011 8:15 AM PST up reply actions
Excellent article
I was also shocked to see that Samuelsson was the only skater over 30. Admittedly, the Sedins ARE 30, but I thought that was an interesting and encouraging comment to see. This team shouldn’t completely fall apart after the next season or two.
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Yeah, I was actually surprised by that too. I thought we had a couple over 30, but I guess I was including the Sedins in that number. It is good for the future – the majority of the core guys are right around their prime now, so there should be a couple good years ahead before we have to start raiding our “bare cupboards”
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Amusingly, most of the “bare cupboards” comments come out of the Toronto media. I guess they know what it’s like to have “bare cupboards”.
That was an awesome writeup on your road trip, btw. If you are ever interested in going to a game in Detroit or (maybe later this spring…Pittsburgh or Philadelphia), let me know…I’d definitely be up for carpooling, etc. That goes for anyone in the Ontario area that wants to do a Canucks roadtrip.
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I was going to suggest that the Eastern contingent should go to a game in Detroit or somewhere close. There is that last game against them in March, I think. Or the playoffs if we meet them
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I’d definitely be up for it. And I’d definitely be up for a playoff game as well.
I’ve already told my wife that if we make it deep into the playoffs and are playing a team in our time zone, I’m going to try to go. She countered with a trip with her cousin to Chicago for March Break, and we were able to come to a happy arrangement. Have to cram in as many of these sort of activities as I can before my future Canuck fan is born in July.
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Congratulations, Jevant.
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I saw Gilman on SNP
He said players can be traded even if they’re on LTIR. Goodbye Salo.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jan 21, 2011 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
Orrrr
We keep him around on LTIR until the playoffs and then he suddenly becomes ready to go and doesn’t count against the cap
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Excellent idea
Aquilinis, hire this man immediately!
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jan 21, 2011 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry but just because
Gillis says it doesn’t mean it’s a fact. It’s his opinion. Maybe his clients and some of his friends clients didn’t want to come to Vancouver. That doesn’t mean no high level free agents wanted to come here. And just cause he says signing Sundin helped change that doesn’t make it true either.
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"I think about it still, almost every day," Joyce says. "I don't want to be known as Jim Joyce, the guy that blew the perfect game. But I think that's inevitable." Why? "Because I'm Jim Joyce," he says, "the umpire who blew the perfect game."
by Section 312 on Jan 18, 2011 9:55 AM PST reply actions
ok, well name the big-namers that came here via free agency pre-Gillis. The list wouldn’t be that impressive
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 18, 2011 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
Mark Messier....?
/runandhide
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He came for a LOT of money at that time too.
That helps…
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oh well
I can’t argue with that. I guess since we never signed a big name guy it means none would come here. There’s probably no other reasons for it.
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"I think about it still, almost every day," Joyce says. "I don't want to be known as Jim Joyce, the guy that blew the perfect game. But I think that's inevitable." Why? "Because I'm Jim Joyce," he says, "the umpire who blew the perfect game."
by Section 312 on Jan 18, 2011 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
It’s just that I have heard the same thing for years and years. Rain, travel schedule, Twitchy, etc etc etc..
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 18, 2011 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
I hadn't really heard that
but I could be misremembering. I still think it’s an easy thing to say without having to back up with facts. Who did we try to get that wouldn’t come? Where were they quoted as blaming the rain, travel and Twitchy? Those sorts of things.
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"I think about it still, almost every day," Joyce says. "I don't want to be known as Jim Joyce, the guy that blew the perfect game. But I think that's inevitable." Why? "Because I'm Jim Joyce," he says, "the umpire who blew the perfect game."
by Section 312 on Jan 18, 2011 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
I think
you guys misread that… I’m one of the draws, not drawbacks!
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but its
still hurtful and made me weep quietly.
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Not that quietly.
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"I think about it still, almost every day," Joyce says. "I don't want to be known as Jim Joyce, the guy that blew the perfect game. But I think that's inevitable." Why? "Because I'm Jim Joyce," he says, "the umpire who blew the perfect game."
by Section 312 on Jan 18, 2011 1:33 PM PST up reply actions
well I think you could pick any summer where all these big-named players were available and the Canucks had $$$ but never landed any of them.
I think what Gillis says makes sense. Especially the travel schedule. Lord knows it’s terrible. I’ll take MG at his word on this one.
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 18, 2011 5:59 PM PST up reply actions
Perhaps that's true
But I am not so sure we ever really tried to get any that we didn’t get. Maybe I am wrong. On the other hand high priced free agents rarely pay off.
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"I think about it still, almost every day," Joyce says. "I don't want to be known as Jim Joyce, the guy that blew the perfect game. But I think that's inevitable." Why? "Because I'm Jim Joyce," he says, "the umpire who blew the perfect game."
by Section 312 on Jan 18, 2011 11:08 PM PST up reply actions
Wayne Gretzky
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 19, 2011 7:55 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
BOOM
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jan 19, 2011 8:11 PM PST up reply actions
Wayne Gretzky what?
Who did he go to as a free agent and had it pay off with a cup win?
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"I think about it still, almost every day," Joyce says. "I don't want to be known as Jim Joyce, the guy that blew the perfect game. But I think that's inevitable." Why? "Because I'm Jim Joyce," he says, "the umpire who blew the perfect game."
by Section 312 on Jan 20, 2011 12:00 AM PST up reply actions
I think it was just before we signed Messier in 97(?). There was a meeting in Seattle or something.
I sort of thought at the time he was just using the Canucks to get a better deal down south, where ALL the big money endorsement dollars were rolling in …but there are some that still think we had a real shot at getting him instead of Mess’, but somehow screwed it up…
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Oh, as for Cup win…he almost made the Conference Finals with the Blues, and then had shitty luck with the Rangers instead…
But hey, he was Wayne Freaking Gretzsky… you know we would have won at least 2 Cups.
Hindsight is always 20/20!
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Well maybe I missed it
but I don’t remember Gretzky ever being a real possibility. There were reports that he wanted to play with Bure and I do remember something about a meeting in Seattle. But I don’t remember a contract ever being offered and rejected.
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"I think about it still, almost every day," Joyce says. "I don't want to be known as Jim Joyce, the guy that blew the perfect game. But I think that's inevitable." Why? "Because I'm Jim Joyce," he says, "the umpire who blew the perfect game."
by Section 312 on Jan 20, 2011 12:25 AM PST up reply actions
It is just Canuck “lore” now anyhow…
It would have been nice seeing those two on the Pacific Coliseum ice, but yeah, ancient history now.
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whoaaaa
we’ve gotten into nasty territory.
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Just because it sounds yoataish,
which I knew it did when I was writing it, doesn’t mean it’s not true.
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"I think about it still, almost every day," Joyce says. "I don't want to be known as Jim Joyce, the guy that blew the perfect game. But I think that's inevitable." Why? "Because I'm Jim Joyce," he says, "the umpire who blew the perfect game."
by Section 312 on Jan 18, 2011 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
i meant yoata-ish in the
“Yeah well Gillis aint all he cracked up to be, fools” sense
not in the
“No I’m never hostile towards anyone, it’s not my fault these things spiral out of control, sorry if you’re all drinking the kool-aid and don’t like my perspective, oh and [insert comment belittling and/or antagonizing whomever else is involved in this confrontation here]” sense
by Beantown Canuck on Jan 18, 2011 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
I knew what you meant my friend
And by the way I do think Gillis is what he is cracked up to be. I just don’t think cause he says something without backing it up in anyway we should all run to the hills and preach it. That’s all.
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"I think about it still, almost every day," Joyce says. "I don't want to be known as Jim Joyce, the guy that blew the perfect game. But I think that's inevitable." Why? "Because I'm Jim Joyce," he says, "the umpire who blew the perfect game."
by Section 312 on Jan 18, 2011 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
Let's just say he is who he is.
The resulting ugliness was ugliness and ended with a certain mythical hammer. Not thor’s or bob the builder’s.
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So sundin was just brought in
to make our dressing room more appealing to free agents? Great success! That was a well spent 10 million!
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That was just part of it.
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 18, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
heh
Daily bucket list:
1: Laugh at Flames CHECK
2: Poke Zandberg about Sundin and/or leafs CHECK
3: Watch Canucks destroy Colorado
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1: Ogle rich ladies on Robson St CHECK.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jan 18, 2011 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
lol
dude, yer getting tourists and teenyboppers on robson…u need to truck over to yaletown.
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West Pender
or Water St?
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jan 18, 2011 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
Like
hamilton, homer etc from smythe to davie…west pender is china town and downtown and water st is gastown
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Yaletown Brewing Company
on Hamilton St is my new favourite bar.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jan 18, 2011 3:35 PM PST up reply actions
I went there. It’s great!
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by Sean Zandberg on Jan 18, 2011 6:01 PM PST up reply actions
The hostess was 2 minutes late seating us on my birthday
and the manager brought two rounds of shots for my whole table. For free. Im going there for my birthday every year now.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jan 18, 2011 10:51 PM PST up reply actions
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