September 8th Open Ice
Well, it's the first day of school for me, which means I have about 15 minutes to post this before running to catch the bus to my first lecture.
- Update: Mike Gillis just said on Team1040 that he is going to start a Twitter account.
- Update: Reports on Twitter say the Red Wings have placed Derek Meech on waivers and have agreed to a 1 year, 2-way deal with Kirk Maltby.
- Update: ESPN's Pierre LeBrun returns from holidays and about the Canucks: badda bop bop ba: he's loving them.
- Apparently, prospect Yann Sauve was in a motor-vehicle accident in downtown Vancouver on Saturday.
- Catching up with newcomer Dan Hamhuis.
- Trevor Linden is opening a fitness complex in Vancouver.
- More speculation about Henrik Sedin replacing Roberto Luongo as captain for the Canucks.
- Speaking of captaincy, that was one of the questions that Henrik and Daniel Sedin were asked by the media the other day.
- Here is a look at the new Canucks outlet store at the corner of Hastings and Renfrew (video). I'll take that Johnny Canuck hoodie.
Open topic for today: Continuing with the school theme, what was your favourite subject at school?
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The Vancouver Canucks are serious Cup contenders.
“They’re the team to beat in the West in my mind,” an NHL GM requesting anonymity told ESPN.com on Tuesday.
We agree. Detroit, San Jose and Chicago (maybe Los Angeles, too?) will have a huge say, but the additions of Dan Hamhuis and Keith Ballard on the Canucks’ blue line addressed the one area that needed addressing. Veteran center Manny Malhotra was a sneaky signing, as well. Just have a hunch about Vancouver this season.
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Oh no
Stop it, stop it!
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
ah shit, I just updated the post and didn’t read these comments. Ah well.
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by Sean Zandberg on Sep 8, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions
It was a publicity stunt
To announce his new Twitter feed!
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
FML
We’re fucked.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 8, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
My fave subjects:
1. P.E.
2. Geography
3. Art
4. French
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can I paint your portrait?
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by Sean Zandberg on Sep 8, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
School Subjects
Physics/Calc
History (Had the best History 12 teacher)
P.E. because it was easy
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Wrong. I had the best history 12 teacher. And that was my fave subject back in high school.
by Beantown Canuck on Sep 8, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
My dad can beat up your dad
But my History 12 teacher was (one of) the best. Seriously.
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
What high school did you go to? I went to Prince of Wales in Vancouver, back in the day.
by Beantown Canuck on Sep 8, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I was from Vic, so I don’t know if you’ve heard of it, but Claremont was the name.
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
I had a really good history teacher too
but the best history prof I ever had was Jack Gaston out at UFV. The guy was so effing good it was unreal. One of my best friends is a history teacher at a high school down south and from what I can see with how much effort he puts in to it and how much he loves history I am betting he is one of the best going right now.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on Sep 8, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Alright,
So apparently everyone and their uncle had a good history teacher
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
My having a good one is probably the most surprising though
as I did do to ASS.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on Sep 8, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
You're all wrong
I had the best history teacher. Pretty much why Im in university right now and why Im a Political Science and History Major. Ben Lepore, Riverside Secondary. I also recommend Michael Lanthier here at SFU.
"Brick killed a guy!" - Ron Burgundy
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 8, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
do to ASS
there should read “go to ASS”
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on Sep 8, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
BCWW
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Best High School Class:
IB English 11-12 – Despite an engineering background, I loved that class cuz my English Teacher was freakin hilarious.
Best Post Sec Class Taken:
Intro to Electronic Circuits – again, an awesome prof works wonders.
Best Post Sec Class I Wish I took but never did:
Running for Marks – A class up at SFU. You run. You get graded.
I want
to take Running for Marks. What is the class name? KIN ?
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C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.
by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 8, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I honestly don't remember
as it’s been 6 years since i’ve been at SFU.
KIN sounds right.
I think it was KIN134? KIN143?
KIN143
https://aisg.sfu.ca/cos/wcDescrView.aspx?crsId=2174
Looks like they tweeked the class. But that’s pretty much the class right there, though it now looks like it has a small instructional component to it.
Ahhh
I know this course. I wanted to take it for a science credit and because it looked pretty cool. Instead it was only an online course the semester I needed to take a science course and I had to take Geology instead which nearly drove me to suicide.
You guys are lucky you got to take such a sweet course though.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 8, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Er...
I DIDN’T get to take it…. I wanted to……. But it wouldn’t count towards anything for my engineering.
I’m not gonna pay money for a class for no credit. I’m poor enuf as it is. =(
My mistake
You’re lucky you didn’t have to take extraneous courses. SFU makes you take courses that aren’t related at all to your major.
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C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.
by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 8, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Well
at least they do now.
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C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.
by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 8, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
They did back then too. Unfortunately, you for engineering, you had to pick from a list of their specifically chosen, aka super boring, elective classes.
Word of advice? Don’t take SFU engineering. T_T
Im a Political Science major
so I think I can stay well away :P
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 8, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Favorite subjects...
it’s easier for me to list the ones I hated: All of em. No, just kidding. I liked most subjects except for physics (bad teacher) and chemistry (yawn).
Speaking of physics…OMFG! It’s funny but it’s not…yet it is.
"I do not recognize the vessel... but the eyes seem so familiar"
"You'll be playing in England the rest of your career" Alex Burrows
"I'm not a water dwelling mammal, where did you get that preposterous hypothesis, did steve tell you that?" FotC
hey yoata, get on twitter!
TEAM1040
Mike Gillis says he’s going to start twittering. Says he’s serious b/c social media is a good way to relate to fans. No facebook though…
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"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve" (Bilbo)
This could be amusing. Or completely not. As long as he starts slamming newspaper writers who criticize players in his organization ala Leonsis
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
lots of PPP people i follow on twitter are suggesting he get twitter lessons from biznasty2point0
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You miss Burke, don’t you? It’s okay to admit it!
He was great at the two-handers to anyone who he thought was taking a jab at his players…
Hope
Sauve is okay.
Favourite subjects:
History 12
Social Studies (before Grade 12)
Math 12
Psychology 12
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C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.
by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 8, 2010 11:56 AM PDT reply actions
Hope
Sauve is okay.
Favourite subjects:
History 12
Social Studies (before Grade 12)
Math 12
Psychology 12
"Brick killed a guy!" - Ron Burgundy
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.
by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 8, 2010 11:56 AM PDT reply actions
Oh and French
mostly because I took French 10 in Grade 9, French 11 in Grade 10, etc, because I already spoke French but my grammar was terrible.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 8, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Same with me
One year ahead. Then after Grade 11 I never took French again, and now I suck at it.
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
lol same here. I can still speak it fluently
but my writing is too horrible to be seen in public.
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C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.
by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 8, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
my french has significantly dropped off over the last couple years since i graduated in grade 12 with completed french immersion.
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I guess it's true what they say
Use it or lose it
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
exactly.
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"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve" (Bilbo)
All the french I know any more
is on the back of my bran flakes box in the morning. It really does go away if you don’t use it, but the good thing is it comes back real quick if you need it. I was dating a girl from ottawa a while back and we went to visit her family; they were all francophones and kept reverting to french or franglais in conversation…didn’t take long to pick it up again tho.
"I do not recognize the vessel... but the eyes seem so familiar"
"You'll be playing in England the rest of your career" Alex Burrows
"I'm not a water dwelling mammal, where did you get that preposterous hypothesis, did steve tell you that?" FotC
Man
Last year my gf and I went to Ottawa for a small trip and we stayed on the Hull side. Both mornings we went to some bagel and coffee place to grab breakfast – the first morning I managed to order it in French fine, but the second morning when I tried to ask for Banana Muffins, the guy behind the counter just replied with “What?” and I was toast.
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
3 douchebags,..
with j. toews, Alyonka, and some other guy.
"I do not recognize the vessel... but the eyes seem so familiar"
"You'll be playing in England the rest of your career" Alex Burrows
"I'm not a water dwelling mammal, where did you get that preposterous hypothesis, did steve tell you that?" FotC
ahh pic fail
"I do not recognize the vessel... but the eyes seem so familiar"
"You'll be playing in England the rest of your career" Alex Burrows
"I'm not a water dwelling mammal, where did you get that preposterous hypothesis, did steve tell you that?" FotC
sigh
one last try
"I do not recognize the vessel... but the eyes seem so familiar"
"You'll be playing in England the rest of your career" Alex Burrows
"I'm not a water dwelling mammal, where did you get that preposterous hypothesis, did steve tell you that?" FotC
I think pics
are broken (or maybe i’m just dumb) so here’s a link.
"I do not recognize the vessel... but the eyes seem so familiar"
"You'll be playing in England the rest of your career" Alex Burrows
"I'm not a water dwelling mammal, where did you get that preposterous hypothesis, did steve tell you that?" FotC
Heh
That was a pretty big pic fail
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Yeah
It usually works just fine, i dunno what happened there…
"I do not recognize the vessel... but the eyes seem so familiar"
"You'll be playing in England the rest of your career" Alex Burrows
"I'm not a water dwelling mammal, where did you get that preposterous hypothesis, did steve tell you that?" FotC
They
all look so awkward.
"Brick killed a guy!" - Ron Burgundy
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.
by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 8, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
MG on Hodgson
“Our medical staff is going to do a thorough investigation, and if there’s any tweaks or he feels unsure yet or if he needs a bit more time, he won’t be participating this weekend. He’s gone through a long struggle with this back injury, he’s had a really good summer of training, and we’re going to put him on the ice when he’s 100% ready to go. We want him ready as soon as possible but he’s like any other player who is rehabbing an injury. They get totally evaluated and don’t get on the ice until they’re 100% and ready to participate. It would be somewhat unfair if he wasn’t in that position when we have guys working their butt off to try and make this hockey team. I spoke with him yesterday. He’s in great spirits, very eager, we just want to make sure he’s 100%.”
If he had said 100% one more time, I’d be nervous :/
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If only we could trust our medical
staff to be able to tell when he is 100% I would feel really good about this.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on Sep 8, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Liked History (got to teach one class a week in lieu of assignments) and Eng Lit.
French was… “special”. The highest mark I ever managed for any term ever was 49.5%. The teacher passed me that term out of sympathy. I’ve tried German, Spanish, and frikkin’ Latin, but it ends up I’m just really, really horrible at languages.
In High School I liked Physics (until my senior year; that Physics teacher was terrible).
Right now Political Economics and Japanese are my favorite courses (oddly enough they are also my major and minor, respectively). I’ve also taken some good Philosophy classes.
The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.
He looks like Kenny Powers

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 8, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
They're burning the Quran
"Brick killed a guy!" - Ron Burgundy
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.
by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 8, 2010 3:39 PM PDT reply actions
I saw that a couple days ago
and thought about mentioning it. I have a lot of thoughts but not sure how many of them are appropriate.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on Sep 8, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Same here.
What would be the point of this? This is stupidity beyond anything Ive ever seen.
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C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.
by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 8, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I feel the same. Lots of things in my head on this topic…. pretty sure I’m not gonna let any of them out except in select company.
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by Karina on Sep 8, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Same here. I find it abhorrent, but this is a guy with a “flock” of 50 people( with a foreclosed church…hmmm…maybe they can be nought?) that is getting way too much publicity.
The only thing I will say is this is a natural result of all the hate mongering Fox/Rush /Beck et al have been engaging in for the past two years…
A must read from Vanity Fair's "Sarah Palin ; the Sound and the Fury by Michael Joseph Gross. No matter your politics...this is not presidential material...is it?
(In Wasilla) When I ask about Palin, though, a palpable unease creeps in. Some people clam up. Others whisper invitations to call later—but on this number, not that one, and not before this hour or after that one. So many people answer "Off the record?"
oops…bought!
A must read from Vanity Fair's "Sarah Palin ; the Sound and the Fury by Michael Joseph Gross. No matter your politics...this is not presidential material...is it?
(In Wasilla) When I ask about Palin, though, a palpable unease creeps in. Some people clam up. Others whisper invitations to call later—but on this number, not that one, and not before this hour or after that one. So many people answer "Off the record?"
No kidding. I wish George Bush would say something. This guy might listen to the head Muslim bater…
Ooops…said I wanted to stay away…..
gets off soapbox…takes a deep breath
So, which prospect do you most want to see?
A must read from Vanity Fair's "Sarah Palin ; the Sound and the Fury by Michael Joseph Gross. No matter your politics...this is not presidential material...is it?
(In Wasilla) When I ask about Palin, though, a palpable unease creeps in. Some people clam up. Others whisper invitations to call later—but on this number, not that one, and not before this hour or after that one. So many people answer "Off the record?"
I think Stephen Fry in V for Vendetta
said how I feel about the Qu’ran. “I don’t have to be Muslim to find the images beautiful or it’s poetry moving.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtVWdplyDx8
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on Sep 8, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
The most ironic thing about the whole mosque/WTC thing
Were people proclaiming to be protesting for “freedom”, while they were protesting against the freedoms of others. I guess “freedom of religion” only applies to Christianity.
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
i know
sometimes i (a christian, btw) just want to bash christianity. so much hypocrisy in what we say and do.
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I dunno....
I don’t think being a Christian is being a hypocrite. I’ll agree that there are a lot of ppl who call themselves Christians that are hypocritical. But I can vouch for several of my friends who I can truly call Christian and are not hypocrites. I’d like to think that I’m not one either.
Well to be a Christian, you’re trying to not sin but nobody is perfect and you will eventually sin. You’re also trying to compel others and yourself to stop sinning while you are sinning so therefore we’re hypocrites. It’s not really something that can be helped and I’ve come to accept that I’m a hypocrite.
Well, if you’re going at the angle that it’s a person compelling another person to not sin, then you are absolutely right. But not sinning is not something we’re supposed to tell other people to do. Jesus mentioned once “Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?”
So really, it’s Jesus and God that’s supposed to do the compelling. We in having a relationship with God, should feel compelled not to sin, much as you would not want to do anything that would piss off a good friend that you have.
So, if I were to tell you, “Don’t SIN!”, you’re right, I would be a hypocrite. But if I were to encourage you not to sin, and ask that you return the favor because I don’t wanna do anything that’ll hurt God, I don’t think that that’s hypocritical. Pharasees in the past were the epitomy of what you’re talking about.
That being said, many so-called Christians in the past and in current day, (eg Southern Baptists down in the States) are so full of their “holier than you” crap attitude that it gives a lot of legitmate Christians a bad rep. But in exuding that hypocritical atmosphere, they’re missing the point about being a Christian.
Christians should be the first to admit that they are sinners, but they also have the assurance that despite their falling short of the mark all the time, God is there to forgive them. It’s not the trying not to sin that garners Gods favor, but rather since Gods favor is already there for us, we should be compelled not to sin.
I’m a sinner. I’ll always be a sinner during my life on Earth. That won’t stop me from trying not to sin, nor will it stop my encouraging others not to either. I honestly don’t see the hypocrisy in that.
But you’re right. If I were to order you, or force u to not sin, then I would be a hypocrite so big, you should find a way to prevent me from contaminating the gene pool.
can’t just pin that on Southern Baptists.
Worst thing about christianity? They judge an agnostic like me no matter what. If you follow the Bible then I am not going to heaven and it is your duty under Christ’s teaching to show me the way. You can’t get around that. No matter how you look at it you are going to heaven and I’m going to hell in your books. That in itself creates an “I’m better than you” sitcheeation. That is your agenda. It has to be or you are not following the Bible’s principles. You need to save me from damnation through witnessing and prayer.
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by Sean Zandberg on Sep 9, 2010 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Actually, no, because I can’t save anyone, not even myself. Only Jesus can do that.
The Southern Baptists were just a prime example. Is all. That attitude can be inherent in a lot of other churches, but the most predominant one I’m seeing is in South Baptist Churches.
Also, the Christian definition of the heaven and hell thing is actually defined clearly in terms of what it really is. Heaven is being in the eternal presence of God. Hell is being outside that presence. So if you can see it from my side, it’s really a choice for you what you want to do. I am not better than you in any way. I have decided to commit my life to being in God’s presence, that’s all.
However, I AM inviting you to come into that presence. It’s your call to accept or deny, and God will honor your choice. I witness because Jesus compels me to witness. If you come around, then God and I will be glad. If you don’t, then, again, I’m sorry, but I will honor your decision (and in a respectful way, not pitying way). But in the end, this whole being saved thing has nothing to do with me, or any other Christian. It’s between you and God.
God did not say “I love only the Jews” or “I love only Christians.” He said he loved ALL. So there is no way I can be better or worse than you. In fact, that whole “I’m better than you” mentality was so detrimental that Jesus tore into the Pharisees for thinking that way. So if there is any sort of attitude of “I’m better than you” in Christianity, know that Jesus himself was the first to condemn it. In fact, those with that kind of attitude will probably be judged the harshest for ignoring what Jesus called them to be and to do.
Goes back to the “Those of you who would be first, must be the least among your brethren.”
We’re not here to rub in your face the threat of damnation, at least I hope not!!! We’re also not here to judge, because, again, we’re in no position to or else we’d be hypocrites. Yes, i know that doesn’t stop individual people or even groups from judging, but as a church, we don’t. That would go against everything I stand for and the church stands for. Nor are WE here to save you. Because we can’t. All Christians are here to do is to announce that not all hope is lost, and that there is a way to God (if you believe in Him that is), and that God would like to invite you into his presence. That is the Great Commission given by Jesus to his followers. Spread the Good News. Not use fear tactics to force conversions, something the Roman Catholic church put to great use unfortunately.
I used to work in retail. Certain items, in my opinion, should be tacked on with an extended warranty, like laptops, because there is a decent percentage that fail. One of my former co-workers got fired for using fear tactics to get customers to buy the warranty. While they DID buy the warranty, it made the store look bad because it showed a lack of respect to the customer as well as the store that prized customer service. What we’re supposed(key word) to do is explain what the extended warranty is, explain the benefits, and let you decide what to do.
That’s exactly the same idea Jesus told us to do.
Again, I’m trying to clear up some confusion between what’s understood about Christians and what Christianity actually is. That’s all my responses really are, so that we can agree or disagree after everyone is on the same page.
I’m not here to offend. As you can see, I AM very passionate about this topic because of what being a Christian has done for my life, and I feel it’s my duty to clear up some misunderstandings. But in no way am I here to offend.
I will agree with Sean in that many so called Christians have colored the way Christianity is viewed that it seems like it has become a very self serving, potentially negative faith. All I’m trying to do is to show that despite those people, Christianity in and of itself should be viewed in a positive light. I mean it’s called Good News. There has to be a reason why it’s called that or else it’d just be hogwash.
That’s all. Bed time.
Probably best to ignore these kinds of people for the most part
and certainly if we hate a guy like this we are just about as bad as he is. Maybe we should just feel sorry for how misguided he is?
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by Section 312 on Sep 8, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
No
Pump his house full of fire retardant.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 8, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I do feel sorry for how a so called “man of God” is so consumed by hate.
The more I think about it, he saw that the rest of the braying minority were getting ahead of him on the hate parade, and he wanted to remind them all who came first…who was the nuttiest fruit in the cake.
Being foreclosed, he sees the way to sell a few books. The fact that he ignored Petraus basically telling him it would cost soldiers’ lives and said he was “honouring” the people at 9/11, and the dead soldiers in the war shows you all you need to know about this guy.
Damn. It makes me feel dirty to even give this asshole the time of day and I am still talking about him
A must read from Vanity Fair's "Sarah Palin ; the Sound and the Fury by Michael Joseph Gross. No matter your politics...this is not presidential material...is it?
(In Wasilla) When I ask about Palin, though, a palpable unease creeps in. Some people clam up. Others whisper invitations to call later—but on this number, not that one, and not before this hour or after that one. So many people answer "Off the record?"
Welcome to america in 2010
a spitting image of 1934 Germany. Yellow stars are next. GG hard right spin doctors, you’ve beautifully turned the lower half of the iq range in an entire nation against 65% of the world cuz they’re the cause of allllll your problems.
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Unbelievable
All I can do is shake my head.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 8, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Broad generalization alert
it seems to me that almost everyone is united against this nut except other nuts. And sure there are a lot of those in the US but that’s just a function of the size of the country. I don’t think there is a higher percentage of retards in the USA than anywhere else.
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by Section 312 on Sep 8, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Ten years ago, I would have agreed. This guy is one tiny step past freaking out over the mosque in the general region of the WTC site, and about a half a step past the tea party. Broad generalization of a group that is far too large to not be concerned about. Everything is black and white, us and them, right and wrong, haves and have nots with no middle ground down there and has been for decades…this is just the logical step on a path long started. If you’re not concerned about the worldwide repercussions of what’s been happening down there for a few years now, u need to pull your head out of the sand. Sure, fringe groups get the publicity, and these guys and those southern baptist nutfucks are not representative of the gen-pop… but they are just a symptom of an underlying social infrastructure issue that’s been festering for some time, and if u can’t see that you’re just not paying attention.
Now excuse me while i go listen to some emo rock and wear all black.
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Alternative Headline
Hilarious Civil War Reenactor Gets Name in News
by Passive Voice on Sep 8, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
"K, here's how I'm gonna get myself a book deal"

by Passive Voice on Sep 8, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Already has one. With the catchy title of “Islam is the Devil”.
A must read from Vanity Fair's "Sarah Palin ; the Sound and the Fury by Michael Joseph Gross. No matter your politics...this is not presidential material...is it?
(In Wasilla) When I ask about Palin, though, a palpable unease creeps in. Some people clam up. Others whisper invitations to call later—but on this number, not that one, and not before this hour or after that one. So many people answer "Off the record?"
ugh
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
You know
I have no problem with religion but I have a big problem with religious extremism. And it seems like we have way too much of it now a days.
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by Section 312 on Sep 8, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I was just going to say the same thing
Muslim extremists and Christian extremists are basically the same thing, and the world would be better off without either
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Yep…I have always had a problem with the millions that have died in the name of “My God is better than your God” through our history.
The 1st Ammendment stops them from arresting him and stopping it. But I am still betting he “hears God tell him to stand down”. I can’t imagine the kinds of pressure they must be trying to bring to bear on this fella.
Just a thought to how the poor folks who lost family and friends in the Twin Towers must feel with their day of remembrance being hijacked by a religious crackpot.
My sympathies to them.
A must read from Vanity Fair's "Sarah Palin ; the Sound and the Fury by Michael Joseph Gross. No matter your politics...this is not presidential material...is it?
(In Wasilla) When I ask about Palin, though, a palpable unease creeps in. Some people clam up. Others whisper invitations to call later—but on this number, not that one, and not before this hour or after that one. So many people answer "Off the record?"
I have always had a problem with the millions that have died in the name of "My God is better than your God" through our history.
oh, i hate that too! just because someone is acting in the name of the deity in which they believe, that doesn’t give them just cause to harm or kill others. even in christianity, Jesus says “Love your enemies.” it annoys me when it seems as though everyone is forgetting that statement!
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What that the world were
as tolerant as us here at NM.
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by Section 312 on Sep 8, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Its a damn shame
that people like that asshole continue to ruin everything for everyone.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 8, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Even Sarah Palin came out with a Tweet ( that is how she makes her regal pronouncements ) asking him to “stand down”.
Hunter S. Thompson
America... just a nation of two hundred million used car salesmen with all the money we need to buy guns and no qualms about killing anybody else in the world who tries to make us uncomfortable.
That's how I felt about yoata at first
That was a joke and in no way reflects how I feel about yoata. I just felt it was out there and I had to hit it out of the park. You hang a curve I am going to crush it.
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by Section 312 on Sep 8, 2010 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
That one
is out of the park.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 8, 2010 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
About as far out
as the one Sidney Crosby hit.
Canucks fans talking about the Canucks: Pass it To Bulis!
I wont deny it
i’m the smug bastard that rec’d that.
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They aren't real people though
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH JON STEWART JUST MADE MY CIVIL WAR MUSTACHE JOKE
by Passive Voice on Sep 8, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I saw that.
What do you think the big announcement will be?
A rally for truthiness and whatever else they can come up with?
Hunter S. Thompson
America... just a nation of two hundred million used car salesmen with all the money we need to buy guns and no qualms about killing anybody else in the world who tries to make us uncomfortable.
You should get him to cite his reference!
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
If you were PPP
you’d already be insulting him on twitter and writing letters.
"I do not recognize the vessel... but the eyes seem so familiar"
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by Twitchy2010 on Sep 9, 2010 6:35 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
you know, i’m starting to think those hooligans at PPP are a little uptight. they need to relax and smoke some weed, just completely chill out.
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by missy on Sep 9, 2010 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
lol I can't believe
you just said that Missy. Rec’d.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 9, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
...

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
I wouldn't give a rip...
…being an atheist and all: they’re just words on a page to me, and it’s not like it’s a rare book, or that this burning will change Islam in any way, shape or form. Seriously, how many Americans saw a flag being burned by yet another mob in Teheran and thought “Gosh! I guess I’d better change my ways!”? But the motivation behind this publicity stunt is what irks. Trading money for hate doesn’t seem justifiable in any way to me.
I am an thiest or agnostic
depending on the day but the Qu’ran has a lot of beauty to it. It’s a shame when any religious document is disrespected even if you don’t follow the doctrine inside the documents. As I said I have no problem with religion and it’s various documents just the people who interpret them in an extreme way.
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by Section 312 on Sep 8, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Sure
But I can buy a copy anywhere. It’s not like burning a pile of them is going to change the words in my copy, or that of any one else’s. It doesn’t change a damn thing about the religion this idjit’s supposedly protesting.
No but Muslim's
are taught that any disrespecting of their book or their prophet are highly offensive. There’s no reason everyone can’t respect that.
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by Section 312 on Sep 8, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Ideally? Sure. But realistically? Won’t happen. Ignorant yahoos have already pointed to Islamic nations’ behaviours to justify their own stupidity, and it’s not like ANY religious folk are okay with mistreatment of their holy works. Seriously, you should see Scientologists freak out when someone points out that Hubbard was a bad writer…
Burning books doesn’t do anything other than get sensitive people angry. That’s it, nothing else. It’s a publicity stunt as pointless and stupid as burning Beatles albums in the 60’s for misunderstanding John Lennon, and should be treated as such. There are landfills of Gideon bibles out there, and that hasn’t changed Christianity one iota; this Koran burning will be just as effective changing Islam.
Well obviously you are right
but it’s about what burning the Qu’ran represents more than the actual action of doing it.
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by Section 312 on Sep 8, 2010 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I agree
It’s when you incorporate the motives behind the burning as well as the burning itself that it becomes a bad situation
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Yeah.
The guy’s all about raising money with hate. So bloody short-sighted, like all the folks who think like they do.
(See also: “Southern Democrats” and current Republicans who can’t understand why they have so little appeal with blacks and gays.)
That's the same way I feel
God or no God, the basic fundamentals of religious teachings are good morals to follow in life, it’s just when people take it to an extreme that it becomes dangerous. Of course, you could also apply that to many things, hockey fans included ;)
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
True extremes are bad in everything
like even drinking an extreme amount of water is toxic.
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by Section 312 on Sep 8, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
the basic fundamentals of religious teachings are good morals to follow in life
BINGO!!!
i basically follow the 10 commandments and Jesus’s basic lessons myself.
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Some of the 10 commandments are ludicrous
like the one about craven images and taking the lords name in vain. Like a God would really give two shits about stuff like that.
I agree with the not raping, stealing, murdering parts though.
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by Section 312 on Sep 8, 2010 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah, my thoughts exactly. a few are hard to avoid doing, but i stick with the basics such as the stealing and murdering parts. i did follow the adultery one, but already screwed that over….
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uh oh!
;)
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
So basically, you don’t follow the 10 commandments at all.
by Beantown Canuck on Sep 8, 2010 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions
2 Commandments and like 8 Considerations.
by Passive Voice on Sep 8, 2010 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve coveted my neighbor’s ass before. Not gonna lie. It was a long time ago. I was young
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by Sean Zandberg on Sep 8, 2010 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, it’s the wife you’re not supposed to covet, not his donkey.
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Hahaha
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Actually
You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.
Sean shouldn’t have been coveting that ass.
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by Section 312 on Sep 9, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
If that's what you believe
I can respect it. But if I was a God I wouldn’t care if people took my name in vain. Maybe I am too laid back to be a God?
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by Section 312 on Sep 8, 2010 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
just a random sudden thought:
God says he loves every single one of us, so using his name in vain would probably hurt his feelings.
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A thin skinned God?
Maybe. Like I said I respect other people’s beliefs so I can understand other people not wanting to do it but for me those commandments are a bit silly.
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by Section 312 on Sep 8, 2010 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions
to each their own.
i even doubt the existence of God myself anyways. if he does exist, i’m pretty sure i’m headed for hell.
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I wouldn't worry about it
My life philosophy is basically enjoy every fleeting moment as much as you can while always doing your best to respect the people around you. Basically do unto others with a little carpe diem thrown in.
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by Section 312 on Sep 8, 2010 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions
bingo!
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Stop reading my thoughts
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
chill dude
we’re all on the same wavelength.
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I know, I was making a joke that he posted pretty much the same thing the same time when I did
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Great minds eh
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by Section 312 on Sep 8, 2010 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions
We should take over the world
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
everyone would be content
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
we can finally have that peace, love and harmony that has been preached to us since we were all kids!!!!!
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Plus free ice cream all the time!!!!
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by Section 312 on Sep 8, 2010 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I would get so fat
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
you’ll eventually get sick of it, though. believe me, i was eating quite a bit of ice cream for the extra calcium when i broke my hand a couple summers ago….
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What's that you say about gluttony?
Ok how about non-fat frozen yogurt?
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by Section 312 on Sep 8, 2010 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions
ooh, that would be yummy too.
we all may want to remember moderation, though
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Bill and Ted
Got God: “Be excellent to each other and yourself”. 1600 pages of Bible, Qu’ran, Torah (or is it Talmud?) in one sentence.
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Newman
fell into the non-fat frozen yogurt trap also.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 8, 2010 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, let's put it this way
If we can’t follow God’s commands for something so simple and silly, how can we be expected to follow anything else that we deem is “more important”?
Well again
I don’t believe in God so I don’t follow anything God says. Especially since the bible was written by men and men are flawed. I do think a lot of the teachings in the Bible, and all other religious texts are important and lots of them I try to emulate. But to me it’s those commandments are silly. As I said if you believe then I respect you for not taking the lords name in vain. It’s just not a big deal to me that I don’t.
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by Section 312 on Sep 8, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh yeah well I guess that makes sense
you wouldn’t want to disrespect anyone that way for sure. I wouldn’t take my dad’s name in vain I guess so it makes sense to apply that standard to your God.
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by Section 312 on Sep 8, 2010 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
but scripture is “God-breathed”, Section. That’s the kicker. Man wrote it inspired by God. That’s how many translate that.
I don’t believe many of the Bible’s stories myself. I mean, a guy has his son laying on a slab at knife-point to prove his faith in God, what kind of stuff is that. And the whole God being all-knowing and then creating a failure in humankind that "continually hurt his feelings. I could have done better.
See you in hell!
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by Sean Zandberg on Sep 8, 2010 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions
The “failure” in humankind wasn’t God that did so. Bear with me now. At the end of the 7th day, it was declared everything was perfect. However, He didnt’ hinder the disruption caused by Satan. Why? He didn’t what people to be puppets and gave them the choice to choose.
A better analogy. A person paints a enormously gigantic mural on a wall and declares it perfect after mass amounts of effort and artistry. And suppose it is. His purpose for painting the mural is for his own enjoyment and for others to enjoy. However, there are people that come intent on defacing the mural. Now he has a couple options. He can either guard the mural so intently to preserve its perfection such that that in the end, no one, not even himself, has the chance to really appreciate the mural, or he can let it be, let them deface his work, but still enjoy and have other people enjoy the parts of of his work that is still clean, and let law enforcement deal with the other people. In the end though, the failure wasn’t the mural.
the analogy doesn’t work because you’re comparing people to a perfect God. Believe me, I grew up in christianity and so I know all the arguments pro-God. But if he chose us not to be puppets, well then he screwed up didn’t he? Has he no foresight? I thought he was all-knowing. He didn’t hinder Satan’s disruption. What a bold move. Not very wise.
I’m being very blunt with you and mean no disrespect to you believing in it. I am a bit bitter. I feel I wasted a lot of my life under christian rules and trying to please God (33 years actually). No more I say!
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by Sean Zandberg on Sep 8, 2010 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m really sorry to hear that you feel you wasted 33 years. However, true Christianity isn’t about shackling yourself to xyz number of rules, or that would just completely invalidate the New Testament. It’s actually very concerning that a church would force rules and regulations down a person’s throat (and some churches still do that) and completely miss the point of being a Christian. If that is what you went through where it was so constricting, then I can totally understand where you’re coming from, and will have to apologize because that is not what Christianity is about.
I’ll just say this once, and then we’re going to have to agree to disagree i guess.
Being a Christian is first and foremost about love – loving God, and loving others. It’s about knowing the freedom and grace the God has given. It’s about being unburdened from all the rules originally imposed, and the destructive guilt people can have when being unable to measure up. It’s about how despite being imperfect, we are made perfect in Him. It’s about how God loves us despite whether or not we follow rules. Remember, Pharisees are expert Law and Rule followers, and how many times has Jesus told them that that wasn’t the point. And it’s about the want to share this with others, not because we have to, but want to.
Going back to your questions, and yes, you’ve probably heard this before, but maybe He feels that he would be more glorified with a people wanting to glorify him rather than a people being forced to. He didn’t hinder Satan’s disruption only because when Satan ultimately fails, (like in Job’s case) God in the end rubs it in Satan’s face that His faith in us was not misplaced.
So thanks for being blunt. At the very least, it allowed me the opportunity to try even in the slightest to change your perception of what Christianity is really about. As you can see, I’m really passionate about this, but I’m also trying not to come across as arrogant.
I think it’s time we went back to talking Hockey. This topic is done, and the dividing lines are well drawn and clear.
I appreciate our civil conversation
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by Sean Zandberg on Sep 8, 2010 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Thankfully it stayed that way unlike many conversations on the matter.
I’d just like to make one point: the idea of Christianity is not to try and please God. It only requires faith because Jesus did the rest for us, without him no-one could please God because we’re all sinners
Just my two cents. Back to hockey!
by andrew21nz on Sep 8, 2010 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah I think I just like hockey a lot more than God or religion. Has way more meaning in my life I suppose. Just my two cents, and hell yes back to hockey!
by Beantown Canuck on Sep 8, 2010 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I believe in a force that binds the universe together
the KesLord!!!!
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by Section 312 on Sep 9, 2010 12:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Or a Luongod.. OH PLEASE MAY HE RETURN!!!
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by Sean Zandberg on Sep 9, 2010 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Hey!
Just a thought, but if we take away Luongo’s captaincy, would that mark the return of Luongod?
Something along the lines of “Those who would be first, must become least?”
you’re killing me
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by Sean Zandberg on Sep 9, 2010 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Then the mural came alive...
…and started changing all on its own. And the painter didn’t like those changes, so commanded it to stop. And when it didn’t, he destroyed the whole thing, except one little corner, which he used as the basis to repaint the gigantic mural once again. He then declared it perfect, until it started to change all on its own again…
Can’t say that’s the best allegory, really.
I follow the
Do unto others that which you want done to yourself philosophy.
I think that’s a pretty good motto to live by
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
then you’re going to hell. Hope you like warm beer
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by Sean Zandberg on Sep 8, 2010 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Mmmmmmmm
Guinness.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 8, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Irish car bombs for all!
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Reminds me
These are not polite suggestions!
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 8, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually, Section, “no raping” is not one of the 10 commandments. Apparently God thinks using his name in a respectful manner, not worshiping idols, and chilling one day each week are clearly more morally imperative than not raping each other.
by Beantown Canuck on Sep 8, 2010 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Neither of those things, separately or combined, are the same as rape.
by Beantown Canuck on Sep 8, 2010 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Not in english terms if you only look at it that way. But “Adultery” in Hebrew is a bit more encompassing in that its more like “sexual immorality” and if you consider rape, it’s really the theft/stealing of the other person’s freedom to choose who their partner is.
did you take Bible history?
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by Sean Zandberg on Sep 8, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Sniff...sniff...
smells like interpretation…which is the atheists number one issue with the bible and Christianity: that by nature something written by one man and interpreted by another now offers room for error. To say that Adultery and Theft combine to say ’don’t rape’ is a big stretch.
Having said that, people get hung up on the ten commandments. If you actually look at the ten commandments, their relevance as a moral code varies. From exodus 20:
2 I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery;
3 Do not have any other gods before me.
4 You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me,
6 but showing steadfast love to the thousandth generation of those who love me and keep my commandments.
7 You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not acquit anyone who misuses his name.
8 Remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy.
9 For six days you shall labour and do all your work.
10 But the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your God; you shall not do any work—you, your son or your daughter, your male or female slave, your livestock, or the alien resident in your towns.
11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but rested the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and consecrated it.
12 Honor your father and your mother, so that your days may be long in the land that the Lord your God is giving you.
13 You shall not murder.
14 You shall not commit adultery.
15 You shall not steal.
16 You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
17 You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or male or female slave, or ox, or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.
I take it back sean…it is the neighbours donkey yer not supposed to covet…sorry.
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I think George Carlin said it best
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by Sean Zandberg on Sep 9, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Um.
Not getting into it here, but I will point out that when you have (any) God making the rules, then you can’t point out the dumb ones. Real, real easy to forget people when taking orders from God.
Leavin’ it there. Promise. 8)
This bothers me also
He’s making money off (or gaining publicity from) being hateful.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 8, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I think vancitydan is right
(never thought I would say that)
We are in agreement that this guy is a tool let’s stop giving him the time of day.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
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by Section 312 on Sep 8, 2010 5:16 PM PDT reply actions
LOL
Come on now. I think you are right too!
;-)
Actually, I am probably closer to you on the religious thing. Agnostic…or maybe pagan actually. I tend to identify with the polytheological pantheons.
But yes, the Qu’ran is a beautiful book.
How do we just all collectively turn our back on him though? All over the news…I can see the build up to Sat getting worse.
At least Beck and Palin came out ( never thought I would SAY that! Praising either one makes me ill. ) against it.
Waiting on the McConnells, Boehners and Bushes of the world to follow suit. They have been pretty silent ( A Bush spokesman had “no comment”)
Hunter S. Thompson
America... just a nation of two hundred million used car salesmen with all the money we need to buy guns and no qualms about killing anybody else in the world who tries to make us uncomfortable.
I guess I just meant we hear
at NM can ignore him.
It’s funny how one nut job can prove that most of us do have some common ground as it seems most of the world is outraged by this idea or at the very least this the guy is crazy and wish it wasn’t happening. Almost gives you some hope that the rest of us can find some common ground. Just need to extremists to disappear.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on Sep 8, 2010 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Unfortunately
I don’t think extremists will ever disappear. It’s probably something in the brain that makes people think that way, and that will probably have a good chance of always reappearing.
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
I suspect
that most tolerant people are actually closer to poyltheologism/paganism/buddhism than Christianity/Judaism/Muslimism. To be a strict Christian or Jew or Moslem you really do need to follow some belief requirements that very few people actually follow. The basic tenets we all follow…try not to do harm to others, try to be ‘good’, try not to be too judgemental…these are common threads in most every religion. I doubt there’s very many of us that don’t believe in some kind of higher power, whether we name it God or Jehova or Jaweh or Gaia or ET or TV…and we all want to be ‘better people’. We all want to be more relaxed. Which really describes Buddhism to a tee. Perhaps Jesus saved us, perhaps he was just a prophet named Mohammed or maybe he was just a multigreat grandson of david who built houses and caught fish…At the end of the day what’s gonna get me into heaven if there’s such a place is not worshipping an altar with a cross on it or praying to Mecca every day or celebrating Chanukka (did I spell that correctly?), although I truly believe doing any of those things won’t preclude one from getting there. Nah, what’s gonna get me into heaven is being good people, and continued striving to improve my flaws. Er…I hope. :)
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Speaking of baseball
They’re really milking Crosby hitting a baseball out of the park.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 8, 2010 5:18 PM PDT reply actions
Of course they're going to milk it!
He’s the wonderboy!
Seriously though, that’s somewhat impressive. Maybe he’ll pull an MJ and play baseball later.
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
On a lighter note:
Scientists identify moves that make men irresistible on the dancefloor
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
meh, it’s okay. just don’t accidentally walk into a gay bar and use those moves….
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So you're saying
That the “Good dancer” doesn’t do it for you?
These are important research questions
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
no, it doesn’t. if the guy is dancing with a group of girls, then it’s okay. if he’s on his own, that might look a little weird.
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I dunno guys, this sounds like an awesome party
by Beantown Canuck on Sep 8, 2010 7:51 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Bahahaha
I lol’d. Twice.
"I do not recognize the vessel... but the eyes seem so familiar"
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"I'm not a water dwelling mammal, where did you get that preposterous hypothesis, did steve tell you that?" FotC
Purest
of lulz. Beantown you have outdone yourself once again.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 8, 2010 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh man
Pretty good.
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
May I suggest an Open Ice question?
Favourite all-time Canuck and least-favourite all time Canuck.
Or favourite all-time hockey player.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 8, 2010 11:20 PM PDT reply actions
FOOOOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Sean Zandberg on Sep 9, 2010 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions
:)
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by Sean Zandberg on Sep 9, 2010 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I always preferred
Luigi!!!
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on Sep 9, 2010 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s 1:00 AM here. I am sofa king wee todd itt
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by Sean Zandberg on Sep 9, 2010 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Read the 2nd sentence out loud…actually, do it in front of friends :)
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by Sean Zandberg on Sep 9, 2010 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Sean's burning the midnight oil!
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
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