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Thoughts From Canucks' Dual Losses To Flames

Thanks to vancitydan who posted his thoughts in the game thread comments section, saying:

The Game In Vancouver;

Shirokov. Looked a lot more comfortable. Got bounced around a bit by the big Flames Dee, but battled.

Both Sweatt boys. Lee makes a great first pass, and was laying people out. Not bad for a guy that is drawing comparisons to Brian Rafalski. Added bonus, he brought us his brother. He had speed, and made plays. Still raw…but the idea of that guy with Kesler and Raymond on a pure speed line will scare th hell out of teams.

Morrison…took a definite step towards a possible roster spot. He played well. Manny Mo and Raffi were as advertized too, and Desbiens was a wrecking ball.

There were others…especially Schneider. Connauton has that uncanny ability ( as advertised) to get the puck through to the net from the point. He will be OK.

The Game In Calgary ;

Lack. Amazing poise and great positionally for a rookie on his first camp. Once again the Canucks send a bonus check to Thomas Gradin for another find. Hansen’s entire line.

Star-divide

Tambo and ??? (Edit: Joel Perrault)

 

There are others whose names escape…but was happy with the battle against an almost NHL team.

Coilers are indeed doomed. Hall be damned.

Zandberg's Take

A great review by vancitydan. I especially second the notion on Eddie Lack. For a big goalie he is so quick. He looked completely comfortable and confident. His lateral movement is very quick. His girth takes up so much of the net. He has puck-handling skills. This guy is showing the most promise, and will most likely make the future trade of Cory Schneider bearable.

Jordan Schroeder has so much skill and speed but isn't putting it all together. I have no doubt that he will spend another season in Manitoba.

Peter Schaefer = m'eh

Brendan Morrison needs to make this team. His experience, speed and play-making abilities really showed.

Despite a really rough shift, I thought Andrew Alberts looked fine out there. His sweep check to thwart a Jarome Iginla breakaway was brilliant. He looked confident to me. He's a big bruising D-man who should excel in the stay-at-home role for the Canucks this season.

Like I said before: I am really anticipating watching Cory Schneider play between the pipes for the Canucks this season.

I mostly watched the Canucks-Flames game that transpired in Calgary. The Canucks kids really took it to the more-experienced Flames team. It was a most-entertaining game to watch.

BOXSCORE: Flames 3 Canucks 2 (in Calgary)

BOXSCORE: Flames 3 Canucks 1 (in Vancouver)

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Good to see.

Given I was one of the folks that voted to keep Alberts, it’s nice to see him doing what I thought he could. A nice, simple game without the excessive running around he did last year. And if B.MO. (you can take that to the bank!) pulls through, I’d even be okay bumping Hansen to the fourth line to start the season. I have a thing for smart players.

Thanks for posting this – I wasn’t looking forward to going through 400+ comments at the end of the evening to see what happened. Missed the whole night with rehearsals, damn it! Frikkin’ pantomime… Still, might be worth it – a couple really quite attractive women in the cast: a twenty-something singer and her forty-something mom. Hm.

by Thursday on Sep 21, 2010 11:20 PM PDT reply actions  

That sounds…promising?

It was nice to see. He was not perfect, but damn when he hits someone, they are hit.

What about BMo centering the 4th between Oreskovich and say…Rypien? Hansen or Tambellini? Both?

We are going to have some good talent in the pressbox this year.

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by vancitydan on Sep 21, 2010 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like Hansen on the third, but there’s a lot of people fighting for those bottom six spots, so wouldn’t be too surprised if he went a step lower. Morrison can play wing, so if he’s on the third line it’ll be there, but having him as the fourth line centre would show a truly disturbing amount of depth. A fourth line of Okie-BMo-Tambo would be one to watch. There are a couple of teams that would give that line 15 minutes a game…

by Thursday on Sep 21, 2010 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really thought Tambo

was sharp tonight. That kid can skate like the wind and he made a very nifty little play to set up the first goal. If he is willing to play D and hit people he can be in our bottom 6 all season.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Sep 22, 2010 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tambo’s a very, very underrated player in my opinion. He’s a much more skilled player than his track record suggests. I would love to him on the (not quite fourth) line with Oreo and Morrison.

by seedvt on Sep 22, 2010 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Never thought “Lacks girth” could be used as a compliment.

Overall I was pretty impressed by what I saw between the two squads. For the first game it’s hard to get too worked up about it either way because I’m just so fucking happy hockey is finally back!

Shove it in your addendum.

by kesrows on Sep 21, 2010 11:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Hahaha

Nice one kesrows!

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Sep 22, 2010 6:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was at the game in Vancouver and it was closer than the score indicated. If Shantz didn’t let in one a minute into the third and then another right after it would have been alot closer. It was a tough night for the kid. I really liked the speed of B Sweatt and the passing of Morrison. I actually thought everyone did pretty well except for Shantz and Tanev.

by Canuck in Japan on Sep 22, 2010 2:41 AM PDT reply actions  

Oilers scouts were at the game in Calgary last night. Rumour has it they are interested in SOB.

by splnwezel on Sep 22, 2010 5:19 AM PDT reply actions  

maybe the scouts were just sick of watching the oilers.

Sam

by anothersamchan on Sep 22, 2010 6:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

or just preparing. we do play the Oilers tonight, after all.

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by missy on Sep 22, 2010 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I only was able to watch the first 2 periods

From the Calgary game (damn getting up at 5am in Ontario), but I liked a lot of what I saw.
As been said above, Lack seemed very confident and poised. Great positioning, getting low on screens, quick movements. I would feel comfortable with him as our backup now. You can’t really blame him for the one goal he let in either, it was pretty much a perfect 2-on-1.

As for that 2-on-1, Ballard really got burned on it, which I didn’t like. I don’t know how he played in the 3rd, but I didn’t see too much of him in the first two. Alberts and SOB on the other hand seemed to be on fire (except for that one AA shift). There were many times I saw SOB make nice passes across the zone. It doesn’t surprise me people would be interested in him.

I was also really impressed by the PK. They did a very good job of cutting of the lanes and not allowing the Flames to get it to Iginla (which seemed to be the main goal), especially for that 45s that Lack was lacking (har har) his stick. Hopefully that’s a good sign that maybe the PK will improve this year.

I wish I could have seen some of the Vancouver game, it sounds like BMo was putting on a show.

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Sep 22, 2010 6:07 AM PDT reply actions  

He did play that 2 on 1 poorly

in fact he made a bad read right off the bat thinking he could win the race for the puck and that’s what got him in trouble to begin with. But it’s the first game of the preseason so I wouldn’t put too much stock into that one play. As he gets into game shape and shakes off a little of the offseason rust I would expect that he wouldn’t make that kind of rookie mistake too often.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Sep 22, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

It looked like he was going for the puck at first, then was like “oh crap, I’m not going to get there”, and then it went downhill from there.

If we see that 20 games into the season, more worrisome. But he’s better than that.

Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.

by Jevant on Sep 22, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah that's a play

born of not having played at game speed in several months. That’s what the preseason is for to get guys back up to speed.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Sep 22, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Like Jevant said

I know it’s the first game, just pointing out what I saw!

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Sep 22, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just think it is important

to take note of mistakes that are made because of rust and not judge players on those mistakes.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Sep 22, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Still

You only get one shot at a first impression

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Sep 22, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I highly doubt this team

is going to be built based on first impressions.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Sep 22, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wasn't saying it was going to be

I mainly meant the fans first impression. You know those Vancouverites and their easily cracked eggs

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Sep 22, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well let's try and be the voices of reason

who don’t get all worked up about a guy (good – BMO or Bad – Ballard) after the very first preseason game.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Sep 22, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s true. I’m sure Alberts will have many more chances to blow it in the future.

by marcness52 on Sep 22, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

My middle name is reason!

Like I said, I was just making observations. Like how Phaneuf got burned last night by whoever the fuck it was on the Sens for a goal. I’m sure Ballard will do well here; I’m not getting worked up over any of the games so far. I didn’t even bat an eye when I checked the scores this morning. You know why?

HOCKEY’S BACK!

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Sep 22, 2010 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was Foligno

that burned Phanoops so hard his ass was smoking.

HOCKEY HOCKEY HOCKEY

"Money drives you crazy, look at Marbury's handle" - Pusha T (The Clipse)

C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.

by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 22, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Iggy...
It always feels good to win…

Yeah, especially when you’re playing the B team

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Sep 22, 2010 6:10 AM PDT reply actions  

Hey, a win is a win, and you can’t take that away from him.

So don't get violent and don't get caught with your head down, the night she stole the moon.

by thelastjohnny on Sep 22, 2010 6:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m going to beat up some middle school kids and then feel good about myself now :)

by SteveNux on Sep 22, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Minor thoughts

I decided to go to the game at the 11th hour.

Shirokov was not impressive, at. all. I mentioned on Twitter that he was shooting from every ridiculous angle possible, looking like how I play (like a stat packer) in NHL11. I dig the aggressiveness, but you got to get in the tight spots before shooting meaningless shots.

The rest of the team on the other hand had the reverse problem – they barely shot at all until midway through the third.

BMo was easily the best Canuck forward out there, drawing multiple penalties and showing off speed and poise.

I felt like Malhotra was like a 3rd d-man out there, the way he covered the point. His offense leaves something to be desired, but I like how his game will supplement the Canucks. Thank God he’s not our first line center.

Holy crap can Lee Sweatt skate. Burrows is bang on with the Mason Raymond comparisons, he just needs that finish now.

Oresovich’s fight was extremely disappointing, I don’t even know what the hell he was doing, looked more like he was trying to engage in a patty cakes combat. And the refs just let him have it.

Schaeffer was largely invisible. He’ll stick around, but all signs point to him being cut at some point during this camp.

Bieska looked disinterested and kind of bored. So bored he decided to act like Alberts all night and take dumb penalties.

Cory Schneider kept them in this game, period.

Oh and David Shantz is my new favourite player.

Sam

by anothersamchan on Sep 22, 2010 6:52 AM PDT reply actions  

Beantown's take

Ow my head hurts, where’s the tylenol. STOP HONKING ALREADY.

by Beantown Canuck on Sep 22, 2010 7:12 AM PDT reply actions  

Sign of a good night

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Sep 22, 2010 7:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently?

So it must have been a pretty good night then. Are you in any of those photos?

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Sep 22, 2010 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Me and two buddies from work were bar hopping and that was our third stop of the night… one of my buddies is a pretty smooth operator and he talked the cute girl running the event into letting us in.

by Beantown Canuck on Sep 22, 2010 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Vera Farmiga was there. It would be tres cool to meet her. She’s one of my new faves. I didn’t know she was pregnant

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by Sean Zandberg on Sep 22, 2010 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

but then, why would I know that?

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by Sean Zandberg on Sep 22, 2010 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I didn’t see him though, so it was news to me.

by Beantown Canuck on Sep 22, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s still odd to see Morrison in a Canucks uni…along with Bieksa still in one….now my head hurts.

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by Yankee Canuck on Sep 22, 2010 8:06 AM PDT reply actions  

awesome

take pics man!

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by Yankee Canuck on Sep 22, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ballard had an ugly game

It wasn’t just the 2-on-1 that he allowed to become a 2-on-0, he just didn’t look good at all defensively. Still, it’s just the pre-season and this could just be a blip, but it was not an impressive game from him at all.

Canucks fans talking about the Canucks: Pass it To Bulis!

by skeeter_dan on Sep 22, 2010 9:31 AM PDT reply actions  

I was more impressed with AA and SOB than Ballard. Of course, those two are fighting for roster spots, but still.

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Sep 22, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

Ballard did not play well.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 22, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

If I don’t see Ballard much during a game and he plays defensively sound the whole time then I am OK with that.

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by Sean Zandberg on Sep 22, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

but his made a couple defensive blunders that were obvious. Oh well, its the first game of the pre-season I don’t really give a shit.

"Money drives you crazy, look at Marbury's handle" - Pusha T (The Clipse)

C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.

by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 22, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but I did notice him

I noticed him several times and it was always for the wrong reason. He was coasting for most of the game, which I understand as he’s not battling for a spot on the team, but he was noticeably terrible.

Canucks fans talking about the Canucks: Pass it To Bulis!

by skeeter_dan on Sep 22, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I watched the game in Calgary

saw good defensive play from SOB. Ballard not so much. Great goal by Rosa. Lack is fucking awesome should be signed to a 15 YEAR DEAL TO LEAD US TO THE PLAYOFFS.

What a goal by Iggy though, that was pure snipe.

Oh well, the Flames iced a team of 70% NHL talent, we sent most of our rookies and just a couple vets. Among those vets being Hordi WEARING A FUCKING “A” DO NOT WANT DO NOT WANT. And they only beat us 3-2.

Only caught the end of the Vancouver game. Great play by Torres. Through the legs pass to the point, point man shoots it, Torres puts in the rebound. That was pretty much the only good part of the game in Vancouver besides the saves by Schneider and B-Mo’s play.

"Money drives you crazy, look at Marbury's handle" - Pusha T (The Clipse)

C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.

by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 22, 2010 11:36 AM PDT reply actions  

It would be both hilarious and terrible if I were to go out and by a Hordichuk jersey and put an “A” on it.

Canucks fans talking about the Canucks: Pass it To Bulis!

by skeeter_dan on Sep 22, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

TITLE

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Sep 22, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes it does deserve to be that big

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Sep 22, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Santa Claus and I

would vomit with rage.

"Money drives you crazy, look at Marbury's handle" - Pusha T (The Clipse)

C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.

by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 22, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

And Santa typically is very very jolly

by Beantown Canuck on Sep 22, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah, but I believe that’s Santa-bot, no?

by Beantown Canuck on Sep 22, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

He doesn’t seem very nice when he is on South Park…sometimes.

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by vancitydan on Sep 22, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

So

Hordi always got the coal eh?

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Sep 22, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Santa

and I would break Hordi’s skates to try to discourage him from seeking a career in hockey….he never got the message.

"Money drives you crazy, look at Marbury's handle" - Pusha T (The Clipse)

C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.

by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 22, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am incredibly tempted

to actually do it. Good thing I’m poor.

Canucks fans talking about the Canucks: Pass it To Bulis!

by skeeter_dan on Sep 22, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

good thing!

"Money drives you crazy, look at Marbury's handle" - Pusha T (The Clipse)

C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.

by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 22, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

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