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A well placed source reports that the league has informed the Players' Assn. that the league will grandfather the recently submitted Kovalchuk 15-year, $100M contract, Luongo's 12-year, $64M deal that is entering its second season and Hossa's 12-year, $63.3M deal that also is entering its second season into the CBA under the following conditions:

1. That the cap hit on future multi-year contracts will not count any seasons that end with the player over 40 years of age. The cap hit would be calculated on the average of the salary up through age 40 only.

2. That the cap hit on future contracts longer than five years will be calculated under a formula granting additional weight to the five years with the highest salary.

A NY Post report on the still on-going kerfuffle between the League and several front-loaded, long term deals.

And if the union refuses? Luongo's contract COULD be voided. Take it for what it's worth.

(h/t to Kukla for the pointer and bitterguy for the fanshot)

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i was just reading about that, wondering whether or not to post something about it.
Puck Daddy and ProHockeyTalk both analyze it.

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by missy on Sep 1, 2010 8:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Larry Brooks is pretty good at saying things that turn out to be …off a bit.

It is pretty detailed…but let’s wait until a real source, and not the Post’s resident muckraker comes out with this story.

Not stories that just quote Brooks…he is a little off most of the time.

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by vancitydan on Sep 1, 2010 8:32 PM PDT reply actions  

yeah, i’m also questioning the authenticity of it all. besides, Brooks is best known for pissing off Torts.

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by missy on Sep 1, 2010 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

What makes no sense is the shot at Lui first.

Hossa’s deal is worse as these things go…and they are only threatening him with an inverstigation.

IF…Luongo’s deal is no good…Hossa’s deal is no good before that.

Brooks is pretty good at telling tales to sell papers…

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by vancitydan on Sep 1, 2010 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it’s totally fair to do that seeing as how all of these contracts are circumventing the cap in some way. As much as I’d hate to see Luongo’s contract voided, you have to admit that it’s a bit underhanded. The Kovalchuk deal is just flat out ludicrous and if it’s allowed to slide then I think they’ll keep making these “loophole” deals.

by marcness52 on Sep 1, 2010 8:50 PM PDT reply actions  

See, I take the other side.

Its a contract between two entities…requiring the services of a player a certain amount of time.

Look at the players that are 40 ish right now.

Lidstrom does not suck. Modano would have been wanted on many teams if he hadn’t made it plain he wanted to play where he was born.

What is Modano making this year? Around what most of these long term deals are paying when the players are his age.

Kovy’s deal is a little strange in that the 1 mil years are not at the very end. As long as they don’t go for the below league min ( and that is the sticking point with Pronger and Savard…not Luongo and Kossa )…or have clauses like the first Kovy deal that allow the team a way to get rid of him…I don’t have a problem.

Luongo’s deal doesn’t have that.

I do agree there should be some kinds of parameters to adhere to, and maybe that is what comes out of this.

But I doubt very much any of the threats implied. The league would put themselves in a pretty untenable legal position…wouldn’t they Bean?

Looks like we need your lawyerin’ again.

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by vancitydan on Sep 1, 2010 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd love

to see Luongo’s deal voided.

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by yoata on Sep 1, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

So we can sign?

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 1, 2010 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Someone

who doesn’t tie up a pile of cap for the next 8 years despite so far being little more than a regular season star who chokes in the playoffs?

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by yoata on Sep 2, 2010 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay say Lu's contract was voided today

who do you sign?

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 2, 2010 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

For

goaltending of course.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 3, 2010 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

we sign Lou.

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by Sean Zandberg on Sep 3, 2010 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I want to hear

yoata’s opinion on who we should sign.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 3, 2010 1:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Chris Osgood

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by Sean Zandberg on Sep 3, 2010 1:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think

Ozzie will probably retire before he takes a number 1 job again.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 3, 2010 1:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think he's going to give you an opinion on that

His only opinion on goaltending seems to be “Get rid of Lu”

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by Semi_Colon on Sep 3, 2010 6:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

When

have I ever said that?

While I doubt his ego would allow him to sign for less years at similar money now, I think had Gillisgan not been so eager to hang the team’s hopes almost forever on an unproven playoff goaltender a year earlier than necessary, the deal might have looked less risky today with another playoff choke under his belt, in fact, he might not have been re-signed at all.

I mean look at what the last Cup winner just signed for… Look at how cheap a guy like Halak just got picked up…

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by yoata on Sep 3, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes but

you didn’t answer my question.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 3, 2010 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

And get who for goaltending?

If we can get him back for cheaper that’d be great, but I don’t see that happening, and then where else do we turn? Ride Schneider in his first full year in the pros? Don’t know how well that will work out

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by Semi_Colon on Sep 2, 2010 6:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Seconded.

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by Smoboy41 on Sep 2, 2010 4:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thirded

I actually don’t really understand why the NHL cares so much. The owners, who essentially own the NHL want to pay the money. Why is the guy they hired getting in the way?

by Canuckelhead on Sep 2, 2010 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Another perspective...

Just as in society, collective rules are made which are designed to improve the overall well being, not the well being of only a few. Having contracts like these are fine and dandy for the rich owners, but perhaps not for the majority. If the owners in large part did not approve of this clampdown, or even a vocal minority, I guarantee that Bettman would not be doing this.

And Section, if you think the whole point of being a GM is to find ways to get what you want out of the cap, do you also support rich individuals corporations toeing the limit in terms of questionable legality to try and avoid paying taxes?

It’s a matter of perspective. Some people admire those who try to find ways around rules to get what they desire, others admire the importance of rules and their purposes.

That being said, cleverly tiptoeing around rules gives me a bit of a lawyerboner, but I appreciate the need to reel in loopholes nonetheless.

by Beantown Canuck on Sep 2, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry buddy but there is no comparison

between trying to find ways to ice a competitive team but finding loopholes in a CBA and trying to find loopholes to avoid pay taxed. But if those loopholes are there and someone finds them well I guess good for them. And the next time someone gets a chance to rewrite the laws they better close that loophole.

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by Section 312 on Sep 2, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think there’s a big comparison. They’re both skating around the larger purpose of the rules to benefit the strong over the weak.

by Beantown Canuck on Sep 2, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not really

any team in the league can use this strategy.

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by Section 312 on Sep 2, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe teams cannot afford to… that was the whole reason for the CBA… many owners couldn’t afford the salaries. This loophole allows those willing to spend big $$$ to once again be capable of icing a better lineup. It’s a loophole that benefits the financially strong teams at the expense of the struggling teams.

by Beantown Canuck on Sep 2, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m with Beantown on this one, but maybe he just won me over with the term “lawyerboner”.

by SteveNux on Sep 2, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only thing I might argee

with is an owner of a smaller market team not being willing to pay 10 million for the first year of a deal that “circumvents” the cap (where it says circumvents read ‘beats fair and square’) but that’s less about market size and more about individual owners.

I would love to see the GM in Phoenix try to sign Bryzgalov to a 15 year contract right now by the way. Bettman’s head might explode.

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by Section 312 on Sep 2, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

There are no perfect CBA’s and there will never be a perfect CBA where loopholes don’t get found. Grey areas. Good times.
Luongo’s deal is silly in the sense that it calls for him to play until he’s 43. That’s not a circumvention? I think it is. That’s not re-writing the rules then for the NHL to void it. But as BT had mentioned before, it gets silly if they void Lou’s contract after Hossa already played a year under his bogus contract and won a Cup in the meantime. But then the same could be said about Kovalchuk’s deal being voided. Right Beantown? I mean, why didn’t the NHLPA squawk after the first Kovy contract was rejected? Because it was a greater evil? Where does the line get drawn here? It seems to me now that the NHL can avoid Lou’s deal and win a court decision in the aftermath, regardless of how silly it looked that Hossa already won a Cup under his.
All I know is they had better hurry the fuck up and make a decision before the season starts. A restructure of Lou’s cap puts us at least another million over. More bodies would then be sacrificed.

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by Sean Zandberg on Sep 2, 2010 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I agree. The NHL should have put the hammer down with the Hossa signing. They look like assclowns playing catchup. It’s a giant boondoggle.

by Beantown Canuck on Sep 2, 2010 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

A gong show

If they’re going to void any contract they should void Hossa’s, but they won’t because the Hawks won the Cup last year.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 2, 2010 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I saw someone else make that argument somewhere once…

by Beantown Canuck on Sep 3, 2010 6:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Somewhere

a long time ago, yeah… wasn’t really a great argument, I spruced it up….

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 3, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think we can all agree

that boondoggle is an excellent word.

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by skeeter_dan on Sep 2, 2010 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like clusterfuck as well

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by Semi_Colon on Sep 3, 2010 6:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have always been partial to kerfuffle.

And nothing bad will happen with Lui’s deal. It would mean tainting the Hawks’ Cup win.

Don’t worry…I had a lawyer look into it. He said it was cool.

Then he got a lawyerboner…weird I know…but he’s the best, you know?

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by vancitydan on Sep 3, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

i like the term “poppycock”

by SteveNux on Sep 4, 2010 1:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Me thinks Sather didn’t get this memo.

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by Yankee Canuck on Sep 2, 2010 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

How does the NHL just decide to rewrite the CBA half way through?

The League realizes its dealing with a headless, powerless PA and it can do anything it wants without resistance. Why wait for the end of the CBA when you can impose your will now and start limiting these long-term deals?

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by Nuuuuugs on Sep 2, 2010 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Which is why Donald 'I ruined baseball' Fehr was hired or will be hired or has been hired or whatever

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by Section 312 on Sep 2, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

He has not yet been hired… the NHLPA has delayed ratifying his contract due to his demands.
Bettman’s been shrewed with his timing.

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by Karina on Sep 2, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Truth

At the same time, the Owners are supporting these deals and willing to pay out the cash for them, so Bettman should get them in line before punishing the players.

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by Karina on Sep 2, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I definitely agree with that.

by Beantown Canuck on Sep 2, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

League wouldn't do that

they’d be putting themselves in a very very bad situation. A trap, one might even say.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 1, 2010 9:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Luongo's

deal is just beginning, not in its 2nd year.

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by yoata on Sep 1, 2010 10:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Wouldn’t you know it, one of the other writers at Pass it To Bulis has already made a post that I think accurately describes this as a bluff.

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by skeeter_dan on Sep 2, 2010 12:35 AM PDT reply actions  

Another great article. These were my exact thoughts when I read the initial NY post report:

Bettman won’t void Luongo’s contract. He’s not in the business of losing court battles, and he’d definitely lose this one. Even if Luongo’s contract was as bad as Kovalchuk’s, because it’s been registered for a year, both Mike Gillis and Luongo himself would have legitimate grievances should the contract be voided — Luongo made financial moves expecting to be paid 10 million for the 2010-2011 season, and Gillis signed several contracts expecting Luongo to have a 5.33 cap hit. If the NHL were to void Luongo’s contract, Gillis could argue that every contract he signed since should be revisited. – Pass it to Bulis

I just don’t see it happening, and I don’t trust the NY post in the first place. But if there’s any truth to it, its interesting to see where this will go, legal wise between the NHL and NHLPA. One thing is probable, this will continue to be drawn out.

And as Passive Voice pointed out below, if they go after Luongo, they gotta go after Hossa. And there’s no way the NHL would void his contract and taint the 2010 Stanley Cup Championship. That would be a huge black eye for a league.

by DD WEST on Sep 2, 2010 1:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

If the NHL were to void Luongo’s contract, Gillis could argue that every contract he signed since should be revisited.

OK, but then follow the link yoata posted below. The NHL advised Gillis to knock 2 years off the deal.

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by Sean Zandberg on Sep 3, 2010 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

So what your saying is that the NHL only conditionally accepted the contract and that Gillis should have kept in mind that Luongo’s contract could be voided at anytime and therefore he should have planned the cap accordingly?

Its certainly possible, but according to the the article,

As part of the condition, the Canucks were investigated by a third party law firm. Both GM Mike Gillis and assistant GM Laurence Gilman were questioned for several hours in an effort to determine whether the deal was negotiated in good faith. If the league had found any wrongdoing, it would have likely acted on it by now.

I find it highly unlikely that the NHL would handcuff our GM, or any GM for that matter, by simply allowing a conditionally accepted contract to sit for over a year with the possibility of it being voided at anytime. That pretty much undermines any moves or managerial planning made during that whole period.

I understand that the NHL voiced their opinion on the length of the contract at the time and only conditionally accepted the contract, but I would assume that the conditions would be met in a timely manner or the contract would have already been voided. As the article states, the Canucks were investigated by a third party law firm and nothing has come of it.

To void a contract weeks before camp, after the free agency period, and after its been registered for over a year, just doesn’t seem plausible to me. Any such move would be met with loud challenges from the Canucks/NHLPA.

I’ll willing to admit tho, as unlikely as it is that the League or the NHLPA would just let this conditional contract sit for over a year without determining an end result, at the end of the day, NHL commissioner Bettman is highly unpredictable and inconsistent.

In any case, the NY post article has already been denounced by many credible sources, and to me, this is really a non-issue.

by DD WEST on Sep 3, 2010 4:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

If this is true (it appears this is based solely on Botch’s reporting, and I don’t trust sports reporters so much when it comes to business/legal negotiations, no offense to botch), then I still don’t make much of it other than strong-arm tactics. Even with a threat like that, provisionally accepting a contract creates an air of semi-certainty, and it’s just bad business to fuck with that. It will cause shits to hit fans in terms of Lu, NHLPA, and Canuck management’s reletionship with head office, and they would definitely have some colourable (although murky) legal claims to sue. I don’t know that much about Canadian labor law (and the CBA may also make this a matter for US labor law)… but this looks like arguably a form of tortious interference, or at least a plausible claim of it.

by Beantown Canuck on Sep 3, 2010 6:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just want this shit to be over with. The whole situation is sketch at best, and it does not set a very good tone for heading into the CBA renegotiations in 2012.

And seriously, how the hell can you leave a contract “open to being voided at any time”? It makes the NHL sound like they’re doing under-the-table deals like some kid paying his brother to do his mail route for him. How can a GM be expected to get his job done with the possibility of one of his cornerstone contracts being voided at anytime?

 Is the NHL sitting around a switchboard with all these “questionable” contracts stuck in like lines, ready to pull the plug on a team whenever they please? Actually, come to think about it that make a pretty good cartoon to describe the situation. Too bad I suck at drawing

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by Semi_Colon on Sep 3, 2010 6:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll probably poop my pants if Hossa’s contract is ever voided. The PA could give Gary a written counteroffer to suck their collective dick, and he wouldn’t touch Hossa, because the Hawks winning the cup was really fucking great for the NHL.

by Passive Voice on Sep 2, 2010 12:50 AM PDT reply actions  

This is a clusterfuck

That is all.

Nothing good will come of this

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by Semi_Colon on Sep 2, 2010 6:25 AM PDT reply actions  

Also

I just noticed this -

The cap hit would be calculated on the average of the salary up through age 40 only.

That can’t be true, it leaves such a huge loophole open – put higher salaries in the 40+ years and poof, they don’t count. How stupid is anyone who suggested that? I don’t buy this “report” at all

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by Semi_Colon on Sep 2, 2010 7:11 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah but then the guy has to play in his 40s. Still, you could dump him in the AHL and just scratch him every night I suppose.

by Beantown Canuck on Sep 2, 2010 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

But then he wouldn't get paid if he didn't play past 40

Cause the contract is void if the player retires. Also, the way it stands now the player gets his money the first year of his contract, which is what they want. The way you’re suggesting means they wouldn’t get a big sum till they passes 40. Very few players would be that far sighted.

by Canuckelhead on Sep 2, 2010 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

You are right, but it could still leave a loophole open, which I would assume the NHL would at least try to solve. Like by saying “If the contract goes over 40 you can’t increase the salary again” or something.

The way the last Kovy contract was stated has him going from 1M up to 3/4 after he turns 40, so it’s not like people haven’t thought about getting paid larger sums in the late years.

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by Semi_Colon on Sep 2, 2010 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Coulnd't the player and owner have a deal in place

where he still gets paid whatever was left on his deal after he retires. The player still gets his money, the GM gets a low cap hit and when the player retires his cap hit goes away even though he is still getting money from the owner.

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by Section 312 on Sep 2, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

DarrenDreger
  
NHL sources say no ultimatum was given to the NHLPA.

hmm, who do i trust more: dreger or brooks?

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by missy on Sep 2, 2010 7:36 AM PDT reply actions  

I know who I’d pick. And why are you up so early? ;)

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by Smoboy41 on Sep 2, 2010 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

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by missy on Sep 2, 2010 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

That was like something

Karl Pilkington would say.

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by Section 312 on Sep 2, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or

Christian Bale in The Machinist.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Sep 2, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Karl Pilkington!

So funny, and so something he would say. I love those Ricky Gervais podcasts. Especially Karl’s simple yet profound insights. I have looked like a crazy person many a time trying not to laugh in public while listening to those.

by Canuckelhead on Sep 2, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

http://www.montrealgazette.com/sports/Luongo+contract+could+void+Friday/3471905/story.html

If they can’t, Luongo’s deal could then be voided. The Canucks have long understood this was a possibility.

Before the Luongo deal was signed, the NHL advised Vancouver to take two years off of the negotiated term, making the deal a decade long. The Canucks chose to keep it a 12-year deal and the NHL only conditionally accepted the contract.

You never know what you don't know until you know it.

by yoata on Sep 2, 2010 9:55 PM PDT reply actions  

OK I was unaware that the NHL advised Gillis to do that. Huh. Well this is fun. I’m not sure you should be cheering for a restructure though

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by Sean Zandberg on Sep 3, 2010 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

The only thing that would happen in a restructuring is his cap hit would go up. I doubt he would sign for less

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by Semi_Colon on Sep 3, 2010 6:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

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