Report: Canucks Sign Raffi Torres
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Hey what's another season without an injury-prone energy guy?
True or false: Raffi Torres was plan B behind Arron Asham. Discuss.
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Seems about right.
On the plus side, he’s younger than I thought. I’m still searching for more positives than that. Hold please…
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 24, 2010 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions
He was a 5th-overall pick
Islanders picked first and fifth, took DiPietro and Torres. Insert laughter.
He’s a 40+-point player if healthy (big if lately), but he seems hit and miss. My Oilers fan friend was pretty indifferent to him leaving for Columbus. That says a lot to me.
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by Ryan Classic on Aug 24, 2010 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I just saw that…my god fifth overall?
Yeah, the obvious problems are he hasn’t played a full season in four years nor has he finished in the black on the +/- either. And there goes money for Mitchell so that probably kills that.
Grumble, grumble
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 24, 2010 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Strike that, he played in 74 games last year.
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 24, 2010 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah…I missed that…so 17 assists, and 36 points!
Nothing wrong with a vet that brings it.
No Cup rings, but he got to the Finals with the Oil in another lifetime!
19 goals is good for a third liner, though i’m guessing he did that with a lot of 2nd line minutes considering he was on columbus?
by Beantown Canuck on Aug 25, 2010 7:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Not really.
He was running at about 13.5 minutes per game – though he got time on the second unit power play, too, and that got him seven of his 19 goals. Don’t know how much of that he’ll get with the Canucks.
7 goals on the PP would tie him with Son of Sam for 4th on the team, so I’d take that. More than Burr, Welly, Hank, or Bernier got last year.
by Beantown Canuck on Aug 25, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
remember Isbister?
Fun fact: When Edmonton originally traded for Torres from the Islanders, he came along with Isbister. Wow, I still remember when Dave Nonis was scouring the rejects to find players to fill out the bottom six. What a step up from Isbister days.
I still see possibilities for Willie to sign here (2-2.5 mill for a year?), and moving two d-men elsewhere, including minors. Bieksa would have to be traded, but we still don’t know how long Salo will be out.
Not sure why he got in 14 games for the Sabres
But I like the year before in Columbus. 19 goals, 12 assists, adn 3 GW?
Works for me. The guy seems to bring it in the games I have seen.
Uh… this one was out of left field. Don’t really see where he fits on this squad, unless it’s on the 4th line. How many is that under contract now? Gillis does realize we don’t have a B-team, right?
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"Bolstering the bottom six"
By my calculations, the following players are vying for “bottom six” minutes:
Jannik Hansen
Manny Malholtra
Rick Rypien
Darcy Hordichuk
Tanner Glass
Alexandre Bolduc
Guillaume Desbiens
Victor Oreskovich
Jeff Tambellini
Sergei Shirokov
Cody Hodgson
Jordan Schroeder
Joel Perrault
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So Manitoba has a good shot at the Calder Cup this year?
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by nucksandpucks on Aug 24, 2010 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Lot of teams have a pretty good shot
Binghamton’s gotten a huge youth infusion from Ottawa. They’re not favourites, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they did pretty well.
But jeez, that’s a lot of bodies going for a small number of spots.
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by Ryan Classic on Aug 24, 2010 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I was joking… kinda. I’m not too up on my AHL knowledge. My point is more that Gillis really seems to be keen to bring in as many players as possible. That is quite the list of of players battling for 6 spots.
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by nucksandpucks on Aug 24, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Yup!
Small point is that someone like Malhotra (should he want to flip to wing), Hodgson, Shirok or possibly Schroeder needs to step into the top six for Burrows while he remains on LTIR.
But yeah, there’s a lot of humanity there. Perhaps a trade is coming that bundles some of these lads (for what and what I haven’t the foggiest)
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 24, 2010 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 24, 2010 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions
And those latter three carry a cap hit in excess of $1 million too.
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 24, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Bonus: one-way deals
Via CapGeek, the one-way deals on the team are: Daniel Sedin, Henrik Sedin, Ryan Kesler, Mason Raymond, Manny Malholtra, Mikael Samuelsson, Alex Burrows, Jannik Hansen, Darcy Hordichuk, Tanner Glass, Rick Rypien, Joel Perrault.
That’s 12 guys. If Torres is indeed a one-way deal, that means 13 forwards on one-ways. So unless someone like Hordichuk or Glass get waived, poor guys like Tambellini and every prospect in the system are going to be chilling in Winnipeg most of the season.
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by Ryan Classic on Aug 24, 2010 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Hordichuk needs to go. Seriously.
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 24, 2010 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
THIS
IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR A LONG TIME.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Aug 24, 2010 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Agree. I am not a fan of his work.
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by Ryan Classic on Aug 24, 2010 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Ive banned
his work from the arena.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Aug 24, 2010 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Out of those, you have to think Hordy, Perrault and maybe Glass are in the danger zone.
I am just digging how great camp will be. They seem sincere in saying the youngsters get a fair shot…and that means guys that earn jobs get jobs.
The others can get dealt with.
But the best guy getting the job is working.
Perrault's a new signing. You don't sign someone and then immediately trade them. It's bad bad bad mojo.
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by Ryan Classic on Aug 24, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Glass is safe. From Ryan’s list above, I’d begin to wonder about unpacking if I was Alexandre Bolduc, Guillaume Desbiens or Ballard toss in Oreskovich.
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 24, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
oh god
I hope this doesn’t end badly. I remember him being full of win in Edmonton though.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Aug 24, 2010 9:55 PM PDT reply actions
CC….If he is healthy, I am not worried too much about Raffi Torres.
Though now that I see Alix aint down…maybe not!
Naaah…dude plays the game hard. I don’t have the numbers, but he has the label “Canuck Killer”.
Maybe not like Milan Hejduk, but still pretty good. If he plays as well for us as against us, this will be a good signing,
Yeah, I guess if he stays healthy I’ll live with it. That’s a big if though.
It's all hot bishes, naps, and dance parties
If he stays healthy and has a decent centerman, I think Torres should be fine. But that decent center may as well be Malhotra with the list of remaining options.
If true the third line flipped from Bernier/Wellwood/Hansen to Torres/Malhotra/Hansen. It’s a step in the right direction.
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 24, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Balls
I loathe this guy. I thought we were already up to the hoooo ha in bottom 6ers? MEH MR GILLIS I SAY MEH.
It's all hot bishes, naps, and dance parties
You hated Ballard, Hamhuis, and Oreskovich for a month, too
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by Ryan Classic on Aug 24, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
haha, that was my thought too.
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 24, 2010 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
A lot of folks over at PPP hate this guy as well.
I guess I don’t really get it. I mean, if you think the signing was unnecessary because of a backlog of checking-line players, that’s one thing, but what has Raffi Torres done that is so terrible?
"Defense! Defense! Common! Do you call that blowing!?"
Mine comes from his years on the Oil when he was pretty good at banging and crashing (and getting Matt Cooke angry)
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 24, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I puke
at the sight of former Leafs. Darcy Tucker has made me lose my lunch many a times.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Aug 24, 2010 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Try having him on the Avalanche.
And Andrew Raycroft.
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by Ryan Classic on Aug 25, 2010 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Rayzor
used to give me the shakes, but I got used to him. His mask, on the other hand…

Its so impossibly ugly.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Aug 25, 2010 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions
You try getting a mask painted on a $500,000 budget.
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by Ryan Classic on Aug 25, 2010 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions
500 K
is plenty fir a decent mask painting. Christ even his Avs mask is hideous.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Aug 25, 2010 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions
That mask got us Matt Duchene and Ryan O'Reilly
I also love how he’s standing up looking into the stands with his trapper on top of the net. Exactly like he spends every second the puck isn’t in his end. Ever watched this guy live? It’ll drive you nuts.
But hey, Duchene and O’Reilly. That awful year was worth it.
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by Ryan Classic on Aug 25, 2010 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions
You hated Hammer?
MADNESS I SAY
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Aug 24, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Pork chop
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by Ryan Classic on Aug 24, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s wearing Ohlie’s number and I think he’s overpaid. But I’m fully on board now that I found out how much charity work he does. Props.
It's all hot bishes, naps, and dance parties
He took a hometown discount, so that paycut's going to eat into his charity donations
Unless it’s raising money for his escrow payment.
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by Ryan Classic on Aug 24, 2010 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Competition
methinks. It better be, or else he’s gone a bit crazy for pugnacity.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Aug 24, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Just don't use truculence, or I'll break a table in response
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by Ryan Classic on Aug 24, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
A guy you hate to play against?
I remember watching him over the years against us in Ed and Col and remember how annoying he was. Played hard and hit well. Isn’t this what we need. Plus he is bigger than hansen and glass…
Really?
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by Ryan Classic on Aug 24, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I reserve judgment until I see him perform a chicken dance
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by Ryan Classic on Aug 24, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
just got back on my computer, went to twitter, saw talk about canucks making a move, and i was like “WHAT?!?!?!?!”
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on another note, i find this to be an interesting move by Gillis. helps answer the bottom 6 issue.
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When you consider this post, it makes you wonder whether ol’ Raffi is a top-9 guy or a bottom-3 guy.
"Defense! Defense! Common! Do you call that blowing!?"
well, technically, that’s what bottom-6 is.
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11:17 TOI/60 last season (at least in Buffalo), fits Philly’s third line numbers like a glove.
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 24, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I got 13:20 with Buffalo from NHL.com...
Two minutes of PP time, zero on the PK. Same as he did in Columbus, but with worse results.
Interestingly, Torres had six game winners in 2008-09, same as Elias and Heatley. Damn…
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Heatley in 08-09 isn't that noteworthy
His numbers were low because of how effed up that Senators team was.
But six is still pretty darn good.
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by Ryan Classic on Aug 24, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Good point about Heatley. Yeah six is pretty amazing, that would make him second best on the Canucks last season.
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 24, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Also noteworthy because there are no GWGs assigned for shootout victories
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by Ryan Classic on Aug 24, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
And he did it with pretty awful linemates though he had some generous zone starts. Maybe it was just a hell of a third or fourth line; his TOI lines up nicely with Novotny, Brassard, and Mike York (!)
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 24, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
low risk high reward says Puck Daddy.
Another “project” signing by Gillis. He could turn out to be Bernier 2 in a lesser sense. But like someone said, this is going to be one hell of a training camp.
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And yeah, big time sloppy seconds to Asham. I really don’t think he wants to come out west.
Also, isn’t Torres a decent penalty killer?
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I just looked at his work last year in Columbus…almost zero PK work, but plenty of PP time.
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 24, 2010 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions
damn. Was hoping for more PK abilities.
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 24, 2010 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions
He is just a pain in the ass to play against.
We know what that is like from playing against the PitAs from the Hawks how effective that can be.
I am all for it.
According to angus_j on Twitter ( the Dobber guy, seems to get things right more often than most of the Twitterati ) this does not mean we are out on Willie.
He thinks it makes it more likely to trade Juice and sign Willie….
Interesting.
Here’s a description from Jonathan Willis, who watched him a lot during his edmonton years. Basically, played tough minutes and tilted the ice the right direction. Here’s a link about him in Columbus and where he’s quoted as not taking a 2 yr $4 mill deal b/c it wouldn’t be fair to the other guys in the locker room (wow!). The guys at The Cannon seem to miss him. Here’s a descrption from his brief Sabres’ time.
Seems like a good addition to me, at 1 million, and there’re plenty of people to stick in the minors behind him.
damn, I just got out of the bush. So Asham signed with the Pens? Well sheeit
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 24, 2010 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember
him slaughtering us when he played for Edmonton, hopefully this pans out.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Aug 24, 2010 11:26 PM PDT reply actions
As of right now
I’m with alix…I hate this move. Not because he played well against vancouver except in the abstract sense that he ONLY played well against vancouver. My mind is open for changing, but there are few oilers from a couple years ago that I think give us any improvement what so-ever, and raffi isn’t it. Goddamn kids song singers…
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Yeah...
THIS is what we just got… ayuh!
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Although, in giving it a listen, it is possibly the best song ever written…bananular? lets see maynard keenan come up with that!
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by Twitchy2010 on Aug 24, 2010 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions
haha, damn it man, you aren’t helping. :)
Baby Beluga, FFS get it right
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 24, 2010 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions
A decent signing I guess. Contract isn’t that big and might crack the third line. Still not too keen on signing former Oilers though and like someone else said we already have a bunch of 1 way contracts. Guess we can put a bunch of them on waivers if they don’t work out.
Also, if Gillis isn’t done yet then Bieksa is for sure gone. More so then he already was. There’s no way he can keep signing guys and keep Bieksa.
more depth means more guys going along with Biesuk in a trade IMO
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 24, 2010 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions
no I don’t mean we trade the guys we sign, I mean other guys in the system. Like Hansen.
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 24, 2010 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions
That was..
exactly my thought when I realized that we reached 49 players with this signing. Bieksa is gone and taking someone with him. And right now, I would probably put my money on Hansen. Although people will be quick to say we just re-signed him, the fact of the matter is we had no choice due to arbitration rules. Although remember Gillis stating that he was happy with the cap hit, I still believe that Hansen may be the one to be moved.
I don’t want to go look for the exact thread or anything, but I have been throwing him in rosterbation deals for a while now.
I like him as a player and everything, and he could prosper in thee league eventually or even soon.
I had him going with Bieksa to the Caps for Alzner and a 2nd. Or tried to anyhow.
You know how rosterbation goes.
NOOOOOOOO
I say Juice and Hordi go for prospect + 5th rounder.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Aug 25, 2010 12:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Haha don't get me wrong or anything,
Hordichuk is the first player I would want to get rid of. But its a tough sell.
I agree with vancitydan, I like Hansen as a player and I really think he could prosper with regular minutes and the right linemates. I’m actually not a fan of the Torres signing, but I’m trying to take into consideration all that has been said in the comments and perhaps I’ll change my mind about it in the coming days. But now that we have Torres, its likely he will be our new third line winger.
As such, I don’t think Hansen is suited on the 4th line, and we know that he doesn’t want to consider a demotion to the AHL. He has trade value, unlike Hordichuk, which is why I’d probably consider him the player to be singled out. I could be wrong, I hope I’m wrong, but that’s just my opinion on it, which is why I agreed with Sean in the first place.
Bieksa should get more return, even with Blackout!
Hansen would be much more desirable to another team than Hordy. It seems that his job will be done by committee, with Rypper the main eventer. Or, for some of the big boys, my other fave “lesser” addition 6’3", 215 "Victor K_Oreskovic.
Yeah exactly, and again I agree with you vancity, I expect Victor Oreskovich to surprise a lot of people, and become a fan fave pretty quick. I would compare him roughly to Matt Cooke… maybe, with a more size, grit, and hitting potential, but less offensive potential. Essentially, a consistent big hitter/energy player.
I tried with this post to put some Youtube videos in, but for some reason they didn’t take.
Just go to Youtube and type in his name though. Lots of big hits.
The guy has a talent for getting in on the defensemen in an expeditious manner, and arrives with some pretty impressive hits.
Hopefully he does the same here. I like the idea of getting back into the game after quitting and going back to school and getting his degree. Fits in well with GMMG’s idea of getting smart guys ( Billy Sweatt another sheepskin wielding player )…and it seems to me that he will want it even more now.
Hopefully.
That number
…does concern me a bit, but it does show what an advantage wealthy teams have, even in a cap era.
I don’t know if Hansen’s going – I’d rather he didn’t – but it’s certainly possible. I don’t know what he’d bring in return, though: he hasn’t yet played a full season. Bieksa is going first, and I still don’t think he’ll be bringing any players back, just picks.
I look at it more in the two for one kind of deal. Just like GMMG asked for V.O in the Ballard deal.
Bieksa is the centrepiece, and instead of two players back, a combo of a roster player and perhaps a pick or prospect of some type.
Bieksa and Hansen for Chimera and a 1st. ;-)
I was gonna reply to this too
but again vancity, you beat me too it. I think Hansen will be part of the Bieksa trade, to net us a higher return. Except I think its probably a prospect and a pick, instead of a roster player, since we already signed Torres. The signing pretty much shores up the roster and I cant see MG trading for yet another 3rd liner. But again, I could be wrong.
Best case scenario, we throw in Hordichuk and do a 3 for 1 trade+picks, but I’m not sure how realistic that is.
Gillis did say very seriously at the Draft that they felt the next one was really deep and wanted to get more picks.
All reports indicate a strong draft year coming up, and since the Canucks have no intention of picking earlier than 30th any way, we might as well stock up on other teams’, right? 8)
Still not convinced Hansen’s going, but it wouldn’t shock me if he did. Heck, someone’s got to! Just for the price, is he the first choice?
Now watch this be “just a rumour” and didn’t actually happen!
What, Raffi Cavoukian wasn't available?
“Baby Baloooooga…”
Hey, he’d come with his own theme song, and it’d fit with the team, too!
On a less children’s-entertainer-oriented theme, he got 20 goals in 74 games where he only got 13:30 of ice time last year. He plays an aggressive game, which got him into injury trouble two and three years ago, but he had a pretty good health record the two seasons before that. Plus, as much as he’s banger, he picks up few penalty minutes. A bit of a surprise, given he’s not a very fast guy.
So: kinda slow, loves corners, does well on the power play, often injured.
Think I’d rather keep Hansen.
I feel like
he’s got the cup experience, so in that case he wins over Hansen. Not too old either.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Aug 24, 2010 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Hansen...
…is younger, cheaper, faster, and can play either wing. Plus he’s a home grown late-round pick, which I’ve got a soft spot for.
I like Torres: he’s solid on the puck, has proven (if erratic) NHL finish. But if it were down to choosing between the two, ’ll go with the Great Dane. Now, if he can learn not to punch helmets, he will have a better injury history, too! 8)
I just
want them both.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Aug 25, 2010 12:37 AM PDT up reply actions
He does have some value though right?
I agree with all of that, I like the player too, but its not like we don’t have a lot of players of his size and style.
Torres is my pick, just because of being a vet.
Plus, he does play a more robust game. I have seen Beaker bounce off his checks a lot more than I have seen Torres.
He seems more the hammer than the nail.
i hated
having him in the central. him and mike commodore. road tripped to columbus for a game and he ruined my evening. i screamed at both of them for the majority of the 3 or 4 i saw live.
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Why?
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Aug 24, 2010 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions
so he got under your skin? You’re a Blues fan? Hey Raffi! Welcome!
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 24, 2010 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I wonder if Raffi has met Kelly, I hear she’s a nice girl.
by Beantown Canuck on Aug 25, 2010 7:44 AM PDT up reply actions
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In any case, this signing shores up the left side, meaning he’s more likely to take Hordichuk or Glass out (I think we all know who’s preferred of those two) than Hansen, so I was wrong with that assumption. Torres was supposed to be one of the players to lead Edmonton back to regular playoff appearances, and while he never quite developed into as dangerous a player as hoped, he’s certainly worthy of third line ice time, which seems to be where he’s played his entire career.
The biggest down side (if he can stay healthy, that is) I can see with him is that he’s a very streaky scorer – 3 of his 4 assists in Buffalo came in one game – but over all I’m frankly okay with this pick-up. Yeah, he played for Edmonton, get over it.
Hrmm…streaky scorer, unrealized potential, cheap…did we just re-sign a hitting version of wellwood?
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If he ends up being
a locker room poison Im going to lose my shit.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Aug 25, 2010 1:35 AM PDT reply actions
By all accounts
This is exactly the opposite of his reputation.
Gotta play 'em, might as well win 'em.
"You had to have the BIG salad."
"Suit up."
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As far as I can tell
This is basically a slightly more expensive and slightly better version of Asham without the ridiculous playoff run Asham had.
Seems like a reasonable move to me. I think he
Gotta play 'em, might as well win 'em.
"You had to have the BIG salad."
"Suit up."
"Eric, when your mom says are you ready for your catheter...the answer is no."
Interesting tidbit… Raffi Torres is a Bramption Batallion alum. That’s CoHo’s team. Discuss.
by Beantown Canuck on Aug 25, 2010 7:45 AM PDT reply actions
Give him
the captaincy.
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Aug 25, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
I gotta say though, this signing makes Torres the most logical option to fill in a top 6 spot while Burr is out. He did score 19 goals in 60 games in the Western Conference last year, playing 13 minutes per game, and playing in a division that includes Detroit, Chicago, and Nashville.
Hodgson/Schroeder need to impress at camp to a degree that would be very unlikely in order to earn such a spot on opening day. Malholtra makes way more sense as the anchor of line 3. Hansen hasn’t shown that he’s top 6, although yoata would argue that’s because GMMG and AV don’t give him a shot. And it would be hard to take Shirikov seriously right out of camp after what happened last year. So I think Torres is the most likely to be annointed, should there be no other additions. Dude scored 19 goals last year.
by Beantown Canuck on Aug 25, 2010 8:23 AM PDT reply actions
this signing makes Torres the most logical option to fill in a top 6 spot while Burr is out
ooh, interesting thought. highly doubt he’d go with the sedins, but he might be able to work with kes and mayray….
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Yeah I think based on last year, Son of Sam is the obvious choice for Sedins with Burr out. But I think he makes more sense than our other options with Kes and Mayray if the primary purpose of that line is offense, which it obviously is and should be.
by Beantown Canuck on Aug 25, 2010 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ll have a piece up momentarily on just that idea…
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 25, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
there she is
http://www.nucksmisconduct.com/2010/8/25/1649886/raffi-torres-the-1-million-dollar
'Nucks Misconduct - Housing Swedish Millionaires Since 2000.
by Yankee Canuck on Aug 25, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions





















