Open Ice August 12
by Sean Zandberg on Aug 12, 2010 10:16 AM PDT
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Good morning peeps! Another hot day here in Smithers BC. The drought continues. The fire ban continues. Damn! So what's happening on the NHL?
-Flames sign Craig Conroy to a 1-year 2-way deal worth $500,000. Any surprises left in Conroy at 38 years of age? Probably not. Word out of Sweden is that Staffan Kronwall wants to play in back in his home country rather than Calgary this year.
-Chris Pronger injured his knee in the Flyers' opening game against the Bruins in last year's playoffs. The injury is still bothering him. He may miss training camp and the start of the season. Hate him all you want, he's a beast.
-Where has Eric Belanger signed? RDS and Le Soleil continually report that he has signed with a team but won't reveal who because the team is currently involved in a transaction. This story has amused some people on Twitter over the past 24 hours, with some wondering if he was signed by Vancouver. Yeah, like we need another top 9 center. RDS reports today that it's down to Washington or Toronto. File this under: nobody gives a shit.
-Tomas Kaberle expects to be traded by Sunday, as his no trade clause kicks in on Monday, but there are no guarantees.Hell, the Leafs are making the playoffs anyways, so you may as well stay there, Tomas!
-Puck Daddy weighs in on the Canucks fans varying opinions of Roberto Luongo.
-Oh the quick rise but extended fall of Fernando Pisani. He can't find an NHL home. Do NOT overpay players who have one miracle playoff run. Do not overpay a guy who's name is an ABBA song. (I kid).
-Henrik Zetterberg recently married Emma Anderson to the dismay of many a man worldwide. Pics of the event here. Also, Tomas Holmstrom told the Swedish paper that he thinks the Red Wings will go "all the way" this coming season. Yeah, because having Bertuzzi and adding Mike Modano puts you over the top...
-Speaking of old news and ol' Modano, about a week ago Mikey told the press:
"I think it was more so on my wife's radar than anything,'' Modano said. "She wanted me to go play, and especially in Detroit to kind of shove it up everybody's ... you know.
That was her precise words and she felt it was a great opportunity to do that in Detroit and loved the Red Wings and knew it was one of our rivals. She felt going in there and having the chance to play with good players was a real good opportunity."
Yay? Haha? All I know is Modano is a Wing so he is more dead to me than he already was. This wouldn't hurt my feelings all that much if history repeated itself. But then, I'm cruel.
-The question of the day is brought to you by Yankee Canuck: Who will win the Pacific Division in 2010-11?
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I added your daily question to the post. Cool?
OK, back to work for me.
Sharks will win the Pacific.
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 12, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
I kid, better post always wins!
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 12, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Whoever throws the most snakes wins the Pacific division.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 12, 2010 10:26 AM PDT reply actions
heheh
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 12, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe I should have asked Ilya or Zach? Care to sound off? :)
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 12, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Phoenix will win. It’s a longshot, but San Jose’s defense and Goaltending isn’t the same, and the Kings and Ducks don’t have alot going for them, except some young studs.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 12, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
I actually am curious after reading the NY Post this morning…if you have to sign one to an un-Bloch’ed long term deal, would you prefer Ilya or Zach? I don’t watch enough of either.
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 12, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh… I’d take Parise. Better in all areas (except goal scoring and size)
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 12, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
That last minute game tying goal at the Gold medal game was pretty nifty though!
by Beantown Canuck on Aug 12, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah…again not seeing them, but it’s tough to edge out youth.
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 12, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
I hate
snakes.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Aug 12, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Sharks
Ducks
Coyotes
Kings
Stars
Sharks will with the present roster; Kings will if they add Kovalchuk
Agreed about the Sharks and Kings
I only saw the Kings once last year (in Chicago), and adding Kovy could make them positively lethal. Hell of a team, but if Kovy doesn’t come then SJ. I actually think the Sharks will be better in goal without Nabby – he was firmly on the backside of his career. My team may have a tough time even getting to the playoffs, given all the new additions next season.
I’m curious to see what Niittymaki brings to their team. If he’s a sieve, they’re in trouble.
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 12, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
At least
Lambert didn’t write that Luongo article on PD.
As for the Pacific I’ll go with
Sharks
Kings
Ducks
Coyotes
Stars
I don’t think the Yotes are going to be able to repeat their performance again. Their shootout luck is going to run out eventually.
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Sharks are definitely the frontrunner, although the Kings and Yotes might try to take it away again.
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MEAT TRAIN!
Kings
Sharks
Coyotes
Ducks
Stars
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Nice piece on Ripper
http://www.torontosun.com/sports/hockey/2010/08/12/15001891.html
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Yeah, because having Bertuzzi and adding Mike Modano puts you over the top…
psssh
+Hudler
+presumably not having major injury-plagued seasons from
Holmstrom
Franzen
Lilja
Filpulla
Kronwall
Ericsson
Cleary
by Beantown Canuck on Aug 12, 2010 10:59 AM PDT reply actions
They will be neck-and-neck with Chicago to win the division… Beantown’s prediction.
by Beantown Canuck on Aug 12, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
I never count Detroit out
They’re always a force.
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
If Bert ever wins a Cup I will mourn. Just my personal opinion. Not a fan. I’m not sold on Detroit getting that far anymore, especially not with an aging Lidstrom and Modano. If Howard continues to improve..well.hell anything is possible. I think my sarcasm stems from hoping beyond hoping that those bastards don’t make a Finals appearance any time in the near future.
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 12, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, I don’t want them to make it either, and I agree with you about Bert. If he ever wins a cup I’ll probably puke. But despite my dislike for the Wings, they still tend to have a good team year in and year out.
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
LOL
people have been calling the Wings too old for about 10 years, 3 finals and 2 Cups now…
You never know what you don't know until you know it.
Ken Holland? Is that you?
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 14, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
you wish the Wings signed Greatzky? Or that you were Ken Holland? :)
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 14, 2010 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Who needs Gripesky
when you’ve got Yzerman.
How’bout a 3rd option? I wish Holland was the Nucks GM…
You never know what you don't know until you know it.
Took the words
right out of my fingers… not to mention Jimmy Howard getting another season under his belt.
You never know what you don't know until you know it.
btw, my “Five Reason I ♥ The Canucks” piece is ready.
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and i’m putting it up right now. Sean/Yankee have maybe a minute to stop me.
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Go for it
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 12, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
NO! DON’T DO IT!!! Shit too late.
Sarcasm, missy. Sarcasm :)
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 12, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
My too early Pacific Division ranking is as follows
Sharks
Kings
Coyotes
Stars
Ducks
Gotta play 'em, might as well win 'em.
"You had to have the BIG salad."
"Suit up."
"Eric, when your mom says are you ready for your catheter...the answer is no."
Kings
why not? They have so much talent it is sick. Brayden Schenn, Colton Teubert, Thomas Hickey, Oscar Moller all coming up in the next couple years to go with what they already have. That’s a 2009 Blackhawks looking team as soon as next year. I mean with Doughty and Johnson you throw in a couple more studs on ELC plus the likes of Brown, Kopitar and Schenn with Wayne Simmonds. They have a nice group of vets too that can kind of guide the young guys. They could be sick very soon.
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by Section 312 on Aug 12, 2010 11:31 AM PDT reply actions
Finally! A Kings convert. Definitely agree with the Hawks comparison…if they can get their net in check, they’ll be scary as hell.
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 12, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Between Bernier
and Quick they can get by for now. Maybe trade them Schnieder for Schenn?
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by Section 312 on Aug 12, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
you said bernier
and i shivered a bit, picturing an open net remaining empty.
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by Twitchy2010 on Aug 12, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
They don’t have nearly the same calibre of top players nor depth players in forward, and right now their depth on D is simply strong potential. I think they’re potential isn’t what Chicago’s was. But add a few more pieces… add one Kovy or someone like that and maybe one or two quality 2.5 line players, and let those D prospects flourish, then yes it’s certainly very doable.
by Beantown Canuck on Aug 12, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
If they had a more mature netminder, the first round could have been very different. It’s debatable what losing Frolov will mean, but they have the cap space and a smart GM to make the right moves this season in preparation for the playoffs.
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 12, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Ponikarovsky is hardly a downgrade from Frolov though.
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 12, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
yes, but may generate less offence
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 12, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Doughty and Johnson
are potentially better than Keith and Seabrook and Teubert is going to be a star and Hickey will be solid. Plus the have Matt Greene. Oscar Moller, Wayne Simmonds, Brown, Schenn and Kopitar is very close to being a dominant top 6 they would need one scoring winger and then guys like Ryan Smyth on the 3rd and 4th line round out a very powerful roster.
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"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
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by Section 312 on Aug 12, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I think all of that is true. But again, all about potential.
Keith+Seabrook are currently better than Doughty and Johnson.
Teubert and Hickey have great potential that I expect to come into fruition, but again, still we’re just talking potential for now.
Kopitar is their only bonified first line player right now. Chicago has three. And I would say that any 6 of Versteeg, Buf, Brouwer, Sharp, Ladd, Madden, Bolland is a better 2nd and 3rd line than the potential I see in those guys you mentioned. I still see them needing to add at least one more top line player, and then 2 more players to the middle six, or someone rising a lot more than I would expect.
by Beantown Canuck on Aug 12, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Dustin Brown is a great
2nd line player with ability to play top line some nights. And Wayne Simmonds is going to be a dynamite player. Remember though that you are talking about a team that already came together and won. I am talking about a team that is about too. 3 years ago the Hawks had nothing but prospects and Sharp. Versteeg kind of came out of nowhere, Brouwer, Buff and Bolland all developed more than most people thought they would. The Kings have a very similar makeup.
And Doughty is the best D man in the league. And if not the best the second best and he is only going to get better. He and whoever he plays with will be the top D pair in the league as soon as next year. Keith and Seabrook included.
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by Section 312 on Aug 12, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
2010-2011 Pacific Division:
Kings (3rd in West)
Ducks (7th)
Sharks (8th)
Yotes (10th)
Stars (13th)
The gypsy told me so!
This tweet was quoted over at JR:
@Aviewfromabroad: RT : Almost done: Bieksa to Washington for Chimera (+ pick), Washington then announces signing of Belanger …
Also, Kings. Also, hi guys!
The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Aug 12, 2010 11:51 AM PDT reply actions
I’m going back and forth with some people on Twitter about this. I cry foul…the source calls himself a “rumor monger”…which at least makes him more honest than Eklund and NHLSourcesSay (the latter of which, by the way, said Belanger was going to be a Cane, Oiler or Canuck…so you MUST be wrong thinking he’s a Cap!)
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 12, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
that girl says her source was @VanCitySports, although there’s no trace of that tweet on their page. meanwhile, wysh found another source whose profile includes the words “rumor mongerer”
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Pretty sure it started with this guy: http://twitter.com/krufrank
Seems totally legit to me!
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 12, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Specifically: http://twitter.com/krufrank/status/20988540351
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 12, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
yep, that’s the guy. but read his little profile message.
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Hockey nut, movie/tv buff, writer, pastor…rumor monger LOL
Also appears to be a Canucks fan, legitimacy problem #500
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 12, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
And ANOTHER Canuck fan jumps on:
Bieksa to Washington for Chimera and a first round pick. Then Washington will announce the signing of Belanger..
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 12, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
seriously, some people need to figure out the legitimacy of the people they follow…
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@missy: no doubt. It gets tiring, so I continually hack these fake freaks. I almost want to start my own rumor account just to fuck with the minds of the weak and stupid
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 12, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve seen you and Dan go at it with that Hawks guy, the broken english hack who gives Hawks fans a bad name. I enjoy seeing it from afar, but you know logic is never entering that guy’s thick skull.
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 12, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
HAWKSFAN2010. Good lord what an ass.
I hack Eklund and NHLSourcesSay a lot too. Then I hack twitterers for asking them where they think Bieksa or Mitchell are ending up. Hey, flip a coin or pick a team out of a hat! It will be more correct than those frauds
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 12, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Heh
Yeah…I keep trying to imagine what that guy actually looks like and I keep returning to this:
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 12, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I have no idea who that is
Never seen him on our site – does he Troll here or something?
twitter.
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"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve" (Bilbo)
I doubt he’s on SCH, but he’s definitely on Twitter. Like I said above, he gives you all a bad name. There’s a few in every bunch.
It’s a compelling read: http://twitter.com/HAWKS2010CHAMPS
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 12, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
contrack be voided ! Good no VARY GOOD! THE BOY IS NOMORE THEN A PUSSY And he CHOCKS IN THE PLAYOFFS #Canucks
Yeah his command of the English language – as loose as it already is online – is magnificent.
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 12, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
No!
IF IT’S ON TWITTER IT HAS TO BE REAL
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
I haven’t checked out the source of that tweet or any of that. But everyone over at Japers’ seems to have the same reaction of calling shenanigans. Furthermore, it just doesn’t make sense for the Caps to make that trade. I can see why Van would do it (speed and size on the third line, cap space), but it takes two to tango.
The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Aug 12, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Chimera’s $1.875 salary is also a bit steep…Losing Bieksa but gaining that keeps us nearly $800,000 above the cap.
The longer this goes, the more Bieksa is going to get Ehrhoff’ed.
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 12, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
How so?
We don’t need to trade Bieksa to sign anyone just to get under the cap and there is no pressure for us to do that with Salo starting the year on LTIR. If you mean he will get traded for two prospects then maybe that is true but I doubt they will be as shitty as the “prospects” we sent to acquire Ehrhoff.
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by Section 312 on Aug 12, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes I mean I think going to get prospects back, no salaried players
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 12, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Who knows if it’s true, but this is fun to talk about. I would only like this deal if it means we’re signing Mitchell. Chimera is meh, and $1.8 mill worth of meh.
by Beantown Canuck on Aug 12, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
That being said, he’s a better option for 3rd line winger than anything we’ve currently got, and he was a regular linemate of Malholtra’s in Columbus…. where they learned how to lose a lot together I suppose.
by Beantown Canuck on Aug 12, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
and he was a regular linemate of Malholtra’s in Columbus
I like the sound of that but, that’s probably how this rumor originated. How Eklundish
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 12, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
The problem CBJ had with Chimera was that he kept throwing them offside on the rush. Happens when your team skates like molasses in a snowbank :)
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Shhh…you talk about molasses and you’ll wake up Hitchcock.
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 12, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry folks, we’re fucked for another season. See you all next summer.
http://www.thegreek.us/2010/08/12/2011-stanley-cup-prediction/
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yeah right? haha
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 12, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, I was all for starting Raycroft in the playoffs at some point last season. This guy says Schneider can lead the team to glory….
If Lou continually struggled if we make the playoffs this year is anyone here against riding Schneider for a while? Would management ever consider it?
No. Sad but true. You don’t fuck with the Italians :)
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 12, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
second time this week i'm rolling this out...
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by Yankee Canuck on Aug 12, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
What if Schneider actually started in the playoffs, for whatever reason (Luongo struggles or gets injured), and he ended up leading us to a cup? Does he become a sudden franchise hero and spell the end of Luongo (if you can even move that contract)? Or is he traded/let go similar to Niemi this off season?
I was debating this with a friend today.
Absolutely we keep him, since we have him cheap for another season and then he is an RFA.
by Beantown Canuck on Aug 12, 2010 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
and Lou has a no trade clause
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 12, 2010 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
And would be
literally untradeable at that point anyway.
You never know what you don't know until you know it.
I meant at the end of next season when he becomes a RFA. And I know Luongo has a NMC for the first six or seven years of his contract. But would we be able to keep 2 potential starting goalies if Schneider were to get say $3 million a year like Niemi and were up against the cap? Or would you ask Luo to waive his NMC?
My mistake, Luongo has a NTC, not a NMC like I stated above.
And I know this is all what if’s and all very unlikely, but with Niemi being allowed to walk after winning the Stanley Cup, and after Thomas lost his starting position one year after winning the Vezina Trophy, and now rumored to be on the trading block, this question kept me thinking all afternoon.
So I wanted to get some opinions. IF Schneider, for whatever reason ended up winning a cup for the Canucks, which goaltender moving forward would you commit to once Schnieder hits RFA?(If you couldn’t keep both)
If Schneider did what you said I’d trade him and honor Luongo’s contract. It wouldn’t be professional to ask him to waive his NTC. That would be like cheating on your significant other when you’ve committed to a long term relationship. What kind of message would that send if Gillis would do that?
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 12, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
That he
is a philanderer.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Aug 12, 2010 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Screw that
he can rot in the minors with his $5M if he won’t take a trade.
You never know what you don't know until you know it.
Balls
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A true story...
Friday, last:
Me: I’m going to get an iphone 4.
G/F: Really? Why? Wait in line for hours, get a phone with a bunch of shit you don’t use now?
Me: What? I don’t even know how I existed before my current iPhone, and it’s time to upgrade.
G/F:
Monday, this:
Me: I’ve decided to wait til I can just order it online from Fido
G/F: Aren’t u worried about the data charges?
Me: I get unlimited data…grandfathered in.
G/F: Oh.
Yesterday
Me: Still can’t get one online, but that’s ok, I can wait.
G/F: Really? I bought mine today at the rogers store, signed up to a plan.
Me:
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oops...
…all those blank spots had a bracket with ‘rolls eyes’…stupid code…
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I lovesssss me my iPhone 4. And just this week my work announced that the firm network will start supporting the iPhone, which means I no longer also have to lug around my stupid firm-issued Blackberry, and the firm is going to pay for my data service, which is basically half my phone bill… win-win-win-win-win!
by Beantown Canuck on Aug 12, 2010 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
Yeah I love my iPhone 4 too!!!!. FaceTime’d over 3G today. It wasn’t too bad. All the apps are great, and compared to my iPhone 3G, they run and look so smooth. And the picture and video quality of the camera is amazing.
Couldn’t wait, so I got mine the first day in Canada :)
Yeah, there’s just so many advantages as appose to negatives. Free apps, third party apps that enable so many great features. It really releases the potential of the phone. I even have Flash on my iPhone! And if ever a problem, I just restore my phone. But I’ve never had any problems with a jailbreak before.
by DD WEST on Aug 13, 2010 10:02 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
There is my prognosticator nemesis! I’ve been waiting for you!
Sharks
Kings
Coyotes
Ducks
Stars
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 12, 2010 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I
say the Sharkies
Then:
Kings
Coyotes
Ducks
Stars
"But yeah…like CC…I harbour no ill will." - VancityDan
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
by Chuckles Canuckles on Aug 12, 2010 11:14 PM PDT reply actions
Ah, the Oracles agree for once! :)
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by Sean Zandberg on Aug 13, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
If I had to guess...
1. Sharks
2 (but close). Kings
3. Stars
4. Coyotes
5. Ducks
I have no idea what to think of the Sharks. I don’t think losing Nabakov would be a huge blow to most teams, but Niittymaki+Greiss seems like a pretty marginal pair of goalies. Malhotra leaving is a problem, but if Couture can play like he did against Chicago, they might be alright there. Rob Blake, though useful, shouldn’t be irreplaceable…but they haven’t really replaced him at all. I’m seeing a pattern. It’s a mild bummer, because I like the Sharks a fair bit, but I feel like they haven’t done much to secure their spot as conference favourite. All that negativity aside, I think they’re probably good enough to hold off the Kings for one more year.
LA haven’t exactly had a banner offseason either, but they have enough young dudes that they can reasonably expect improvement from within. [Slightly off-topic: Section’s already made the comparison with Chicago, which at this point I think is pretty hard to foresee. I think Doughty can be (maybe already is?) better than Keith, but Jack Johnson has shown absolutely nothing that makes me think he’ll be as good as Seabrook. They also don’t strike me as having anywhere near the depth that Chicago had. I know that this time two years ago Chicago’s young guys had accomplished even less than the Kings have now, but just because like all of Chicago’s youth (Bolland, Versteeg, Byfuglien, Hjalmarsson, Brouwer, Ladd) hit or exceeded reasonable expectations, it doesn’t mean that the Kings’ guys will. Lombardi’s built himself a really good squad, but he’s got a bunch of work left to match last year’s Chicago team, which may have been the best since the lockout.] They oughta be nipping at the Sharks’ heels all winter.
Dallas really intrigues me. They’ve got a bunch of good, mostly-youngish players all over the roster (Richards, Neal, Eriksson, Ribeiro, Morrow, Benn, Ott, Robidas, Grossman, Niskanen). I think if Lehtonen can be healthy, they’ll make the playoffs.
Phoenix did crazy well last year, but I just don’t see a repeat performance as likely. I do love Martin Hanzal to bits. It’s certainly not as bleak as it was this time a year ago.
I can’t for the life of me figure out why Anaheim traded Wisniewski for nothing. It seems crazy. I feel like the Ducks top line (Ryan-Getzlaf-Perry / Visnovsky-Whoever / Hiller) is just about as good as anything on offer elsewhere in the league, but they’re utterly lacking decent depth. Still, if the top line goes bonkers and Hiller does what Hiller does, they could make the playoffs.
Not to nitpick here, but...
Buff didn’t exceed or even meet expectations, at least until the latter rounds of the playoffs. We’ll miss him, of course, but he played like a big fat hunk of goo for the regular season, completely disappeared against the Predators, drove the Nucks and SJ crazy, then disappeared again against Pronger. As for Ladd, the guy had already proven himself in his prior stint at CAR, he met the high expectations we already had for him before he got here. I think of all the defections we’ll miss his presence the most.
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